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significance in another to speak with the u.s. attorney in the other district to find out what the policies of the district are, to find out what the practices are, to see how judges in that district react to different kinds of charges. sometimes a decision is made to partner together in those investigations. and sometimes a decision is made for the u.s. attorney from the other district to have his or her own people bring those cases. i personally have been involved in, i think, three of those cases during a period when i was an assistant u.s. attorney. and over my entire career, i have been given 515 authority twice myself for this purpose. it is just a mechanical question of what courts require in order to make an appearance. >> thank you so much, mr. garland. again, appreciate your public service to the american people. mr. chairman, i yield back.
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>> gentleman from alabama is recognized. >> thank you for being here. convents are worried about the weaponization of government, them being selected because they happen to be conservatives and i think on your watch, the doj actually is a mid-30s percent approval rating. every time the doj goes after trump, he goes up in the polls. i think the american people are starting to wake up to what's going on, and i think it's fairly obvious, and the first question i have is i understand now that we know thanks to an fbi whistleblower, the fbi received information on americans from bank of america, specifically bank of america sent the fbi a list of customers that made transactions on or around january 6th, 2021. my question for you is did the department of justice acquire geo locational data.
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>> i believe everything was done with respect to geo locational data was disclosed in the public filings in the january 6th cases. i don't have that at my finger tips, but this is a matter of public record. >> do you remember any specific analyses you may have done with that data? >> i'm sorry? >> any specific analyses you may have gotten with that data? anything specifically you were looking for? maybe buy a firearm? >> i'm sorry, i don't know anything about the second. the purpose, as i said of location data was to determine whether people claimed they weren't inside the capitol actually were inside the capitol? >> i guess the question is, to your knowledge, then, the doj, the geolocation data from external sources, entities or organizations, to your knowledge, did you receive that from external sources or are you buying that data? >> i don't know the exact answer in general, but i believe with respect to january 6th, the
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results of subpoenas issued to telephone companies. >> so you subpoenaed the telephone companies and got the data -- >> this requires orders authorized by the court. >> does it concern you that, you know, we talked about durham's report earlier, he said the fbi's activities were somewhat sobering, does that worry you on your watch that the activities of the fbi have been called sobering now? >> i'm sorry, i didn't understand, who calls it sobering? >> john durham. >> i did read the report. all of those events had to do with the cross fire hurricane investigations. >> that was part of it, yes, sir. >> yes. >> were you concerned when he said it was sobering what the fbi was doing? >> i think mr. durham, i just want to make sure everybody understands, mr. durham thanked me for not interfering with his investigation. i promised he would be able to go forward without interference,
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just as i promised mr. weiss. mr. durham -- and i did not interfere with his report. his report reported a lack of analytical rigor, and a number of other problems with respect to the investigation. i think both the inspector general made a similar comment and director wray has made the same. >> thank you, i don't have a whole lot of time. i want to yield a little bit to the chairman. is it a crime in the u.s. to question an election? >> i'm sorry? >> is it a crime in the u.s. to question an election? >> i'm sorry, it's my fault, i can't hear, to request a what. >> is it a crime to question an election in the united states of america? is it a crime for the u.s. citizens to say we want to ask about this election, we want to question this election, we want to look into the election, is that a crime when citizens question an election in america? >> again, i think you're asking not a hypothetical but something specific -- >> i think in general. i don't think that's specific.
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elections have been questioned for decades past, is that now a crime in america. >> did you say to ask questions about an election, just to question the results. >> it's not a crime to question an election. >> because i questioned the election results in america in 2020, and there are a lot of americans do. you, sir, have an issue with trust worthiness of the american people and congress at this point. with that, mr. chairman, i'll yield 36 seconds. >> mr. garland, did you consider, i want to go back to this question, did you consider anyone else when david weiss requested special counsel designation on august 8th? >> mr. weiss asked to be made special counsel, and i made -- i did not consider an alternative. of course to put in an alternative would have greatly disrupted an investigation. >> it was either no special
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counsel or it was going to be the guy who presided over the investigation for the previous five years. >> i thought of the consequences of not appointing him and trying to appoint somebody else at that time -- >> and you had no concerns, i mean, whistleblowers have brought forward all kinds of concerns. earlier when someone brought those up, you said those are allegations. i think they stand up well. they have been cross examined for four hours by democrats in the oversight committee, two facts about the question of hunter bipden. they let the statute of limitations run, and fact number two, the plea deal fell apart. i wanted to make clear the guy who presides over that was the only guy under consideration for special counsel designation, is that right? >> mr. weiss is known for high integrity, for great experience in the prosecutorial realm and he was appointed by the president.
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>> that's fine. >> i have no doubts about his abilities in this area. >> he was the only one under consideration. >> the question was whether to appoint someone and i thought i will say what the consequences would be of trying to switch horses in midstream, but i did not consider any other person. >> july 10th, you wrote senator graham, i've had discussions with departmental officials. and i don't know if this was asked earlier, who did he talk with them? >> i'm sorry, you're talking about the letter that he sent to -- >> senator graham on july 10th. >> i'm not going to get into internal deliberations. >> is there one person who's the point person for david weiss as he's functioning as special counsel in the investigation? >> mr. weiss is now subject to the special counsel regulations which require urgent reporting under certain circumstances, require him to consult with numerous places within the
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justice department. >> fine, you follow the statute, god bless you, you said reporting, who does he report to, is it you? >> i'm ultimately responsible. >> is it the dag. >> mr. weiss did not have to report to anybody. he was the supervisor, decision maker in these matters. >> okay. we have votes on the floor. we're going to have to take a break mr. attorney general. we'll get back here as soon as we can and start with the democrats. >> sure. >> and so attorney general merrick garland who started at 10:00 this morning, so more than four hours ago with breaks continues to answer questions. a lot of them focused on what republicans on the judiciary committee see as the weaponization of the doj and want questions answered about the hunter biden investigation. joining us now, nbc news justice and intel correspondent and eugene daniels, msnbc political
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contributor. a lot of the time they answered their own questions, but in this intense questioning, do you think they laid a glove on the attorney general? >> not really, chris, i was struck by how few questions there have been actually about the trump indictments, which is something that republicans have been decrying and talking about in the context of weaponization, but they didn't even really ask about them. the last member who was questioning garland was somewhat offen a exception of that. he started going down the train is it illegal will to question an election. it's been mostly about the hunter biden investigation, and there are some reasonable questions bury amid outrageous mistruths being uttered, but attorney general merrick garland is not able to answer any of them. it's a pending matter, i can't discuss it. he hasn't been able to address the allegations by the irs whistleblowers that this case was mishandled, that there was
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political interference, they weren't allowed to do things they wanted to do. those allegations have been refuted by other investigators on the case, including an fbi agent involved in the case. it's unclear exactly what happened there. but what is clear is attorney general merrick garland wasn't able to talk about. you have an exchange of rhetoric. republicans and democrats living in two realities and garland is ducking and covering as these rhetorical bombs are going back and forth. republicans are charging, making serious charges. the justice department has been distorted and politicized and that it's not on the level, but they're not really backing it up with any evidence, chris. >> yeah, and, eugene, look, the democrats are charging this is a gross misuse of time, a shameful circus. some of the things we heard were accusations, for example, that merrick garland supports
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religious discrimination, he had to say, i actually lost relatives in the holocaust. one of the questions he was asked is do you support more crime, to which shockingly, he responded he did not, and then congressman thomas tiffany brought up a rural naked bike race and asked, do you think that's a problem. when the american people watch these kinds of hearings, what's supposed to be the take away here? what kind of things -- what are we supposed to learn? >> i mean, i think the take away for each of those members of congress who asks those very strange questions at times is a short clip that they can show on social media and say that i'm fighting the biden administration. i'm fighting the deep state, i'm fighting the left wing of the country, right, that is what's about. you don't get anything out of these. the american people aren't going to leave with the further understanding of what the doj is supposed to be doing, has done and will do in the future.
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he often wasn't able to answer questions, right, you don't get a lot of time. the members of congress, first of all, to ask the questions, and so when you're just trying to get yes or no answers from a lawyer, that is very difficult as we all know. he's not able to share anything, and i think, you know, the american people have -- they don't like -- they have a bad view of the department of justice. but they also don't have a bad view of congress overall, and all types of institutions and i think these kinds of moments don't help that view. it doesn't give americans a better understanding of how this government is supposed to work, and there are real questions about the things that the department of justice has been doing and should be doing in this country, but you don't get any of these in these question and answer sessions that we have. >> eugene daniels, and ken dilanian, thank you both so much. we'll go back after the break.
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we have a lot more news to cover "chris jansing reports." the fed announcing a new decision on interest rates as gas prices continue to creep up around the country. the dramatic verbal fireworks at the u.n., ukraine's president facing major pushback from russia's u.n. ambassador, ahead of zelenskyy's powerful speech on the floor. and tuberville's new twist, plotting a move to shift the blame for his military blockade to democrats. our nbc news reporters are following all of these latest developments, and let's get right to that breaking news from the federal reserve on interest rates. cnbc's morgan brennan joins me for cnbc on msnbc. walk us through the fed's decision as they deal with the jump in gas prices, among other considerations? >> we have seen that jump in gas prices, you have seen signs that inflation is sticky, nonetheless, the fed leaving the federal funds rate unchanged at 5 1/4 to 5 1/2%. that had been widely expected.
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keep in mind, though, even with the pause, at those rates, we're talking about the highest level in 22 years. it was a pause today. but that being said, the interest rate hikes of this cycle, which started in march of 2022 may not be done because the fed did indicate today that it still expects one more hike before the end of the year, and fewer cuts to those interest rates next year than it had previously indicated. that suggests that interest rates are going to stay at these higher levels for longer as it continues to combat the inflation that's higher than officials would like to see. the other thing we got today is the fed's summary of economic projections. we don't get that with every fed meeting. the last time we had one released was in june. that details the central bank's outlook for rates, gdp growth inflation and a number of other key metrics. what we saw in that is that the economic growth projections by fed officials actually increased this year. they're feeling better about the state of the economy. gdp expected to increase by
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2.1%. it's double the june estimate. it signals no sign of recession, at least based on the data they're interpreting right now. they upped the gdp outlook for next year. unemployment rate forecast, that came down to 3.8% signaling that the jobs market continues to be strong and robust, more so than they had anticipated earlier this year, and they also revised lower ever so slightly their inflation forecasts. so so far, that is what we have to work with, but fed chair powell is going to have his now customary press release starting here in the next about 15 minutes. that's what the markets are going to be watching very closely to see what he has to say. they're going to parse his tone and sort of get a sense of how he thinks about the economy and what that rate increase could look like if we get it later this year, chris. >> morgan brennan, thank you so much. now to the tense encounter at the united nations between
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ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy and a top russian diplomat. mike memoli joins us now. what exactly happened there? >> we saw president zelenskyy speak forcefully warning about the consequences, what it could mean in terms of the broader world. we saw today president zelenskyy delivering a pointed criticism of the u.n. itself, talking about the fact that the security council includes as a member, russia, and russia has a veto, of course, as a member of the security council. he called for not just introducing his own plan for peace with ukraine, but he also called for some significant reforms to the u.n. security council itself including a potential override of a russian veto for the broader assembly. listen to some of zelenskyy's remarks here today. >> translator: the world recognizes the truth about this war. it is a criminal and unprovoked
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aggression by russia against our nation, aimed at seizing ukraine's territory and resources. but it's not just that. the terrorist stand is willing through its aggression to undermine all the grounds of international memorials meant to protect the world from the wars. >> all of this, of course, coming ahead of president zelenskyy's trip to washington tomorrow. president biden in new york. he did not attend the security council meeting as he's had a number of meetings, including with the brazilian president, and prime minister netanyahu. >> talk about that meeting with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu today. friends for decades but boy have things changed. >> that's right, friends for decades but since netanyahu returned to the prime ministership, he has not gotten the face-to-face meeting that he wanted. the u.s. has significant concerns about the right wing coalition that netanyahu leads,
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including controversial judicial reforms. there was, i would say, a significant display of friendship here today, they did joke about their long standing relationship and ties. what was interesting, chris, was that we know that netanyahu had been hoping for a white house meeting, having a meeting on the sidelines of the u.n. is considered something of a snub. in a readout that the white house issued after this meeting, they did say that president biden invited prime minister netanyahu to visit with him again in washington by the end of this year. >> mike memoli, thank you for that. let's go to capitol hill now where there was a major new development involving alabama senator tommy tuberville's ongoing blockade of military nominees. nbc's julie tsirkin is following that. what's the latest? >> reporter: in the last couple of minutes, majority leader schumer went on the floor and started a process that would shake loose nominees, including the nominee for the joint chiefs of staff, chief of staff of the rmb and commandant of the navy. eric smith was actually somebody
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that tuberville had planned to go on the floor with and force a vote, essentially having gathered enough support to do so while schumer actually up ended that effort from tuberville. he did do something that democratic leadership for months would not do is move nominees that are very high up like the joint chiefs of staff nominee. schumer said he's not going to do that because of the precedent it would set for republicans in the future, and tuberville who has had this hold over the d.o.d.'s abortion policy, here's something schumer had to say on the floor. >> i have found cloture on the commandants of the marine corps and the army chief of staff. these men should have already been confirmed. they should already been serving in their new positions. the senate should not have to go through procedural hoops just to please one brazen and misguided senator. >> reporter: that brazen and
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misguided senator in the words of schumer, senator tuberville said he will not object to quick confirmation of the three nominees. he declared victory over schumer. it was tuberville's haggling behind the scenes being able to get enough support to go on the floor and move the nominees individually anyway, that led schumer to reverse course on what he has been saying this whole time, he will not move the nominees individually. we heard from many democrats, including senator warren who told us this morning this is a really bad idea, democrats should not allow him to do this. of course there are still hundreds of lower level nominees waiting to be promoted. it would take many hours, hundreds of hours for the senate if they were going to do all of those individually. it's not clear what it's set down the road. tuberville is not going to object. they could be started as early as this afternoon, and could be confirmed later this week.
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>> julie tsirkin, something an awful lot of people have been waiting for, thank you. the trial against two police officers now underway over the death of elijah mcclain, an unarmed black man injected with ketamine in a police choke hold. we're back in 60 seconds. ce cho. we're back in 60 seconds get one 50% off in the subway app today. now that's a deal worth celebrating. man, what are you doing?! get it before it's gone on the subway app. ♪♪ power e*trade's award-winning trading app makes trading easier. with its customizable options chain, easy-to-use tools and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. e*trade from morgan stanley. power e*trade's easy-to-use tools make complex trading less complicated. custom scans help you find new trading opportunities, while an earnings tool helps you plan your trades and stay on top of the market. e*trade from morgan stanley.
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their trial just the first of three stemming from mcclain's death. nbc's trymaine lee, and also with me, criminal defense attorney, danny cevallos. good to have you here. what's the case that's being laid out in court today? >> opening arguments haven't started yet, but prosecutors will likely say when the police officers stopped elijah mcclain, it was an illegal stop. he was walking home from the store, minding his business when officers engaged him, ultimately put him in a choke hold and injected him with ketamine, which undermines the idea they were doing their jobs. >> he had iced tea in a plastic bag. did police need probable cause to justify their actions? can they say probable cause was we got a phone call? >> you can start with a terry stop, the lowest quantum of evidence required to stop a citizen and question them, and even possibly pat him down. that reasonable suspicion can be a lot of things, but it has its
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limits. for example, just furtive movements alone, probably not enough. but police know to put that magic word in there, furtive movements, high crime area, the supreme court has said, when those words appear in a police report, that can support the initial terry stop. i have had cases like this, and had he survived, this would have been a case that would have been tossed had they arrested him because there doesn't even appear to be enough for the minimum terry stop, the suspicion, because walking down the street with a bag in a post covid era wearing a mask is probably not enough, even in a high crime area. that's how close a call this was, and why as soon as they determined that there was no threat, there was no contraband, no firearm, no weapon, they should have let him go on his way. instead, they escalated and made it physical. >> talk a little bit about what we know about this young man, again, we saw pictures of him playing the violin. flight, right?
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arguably, as any black man would be who's just walking down the street and gets stopped by police, terrified. >> unfortunately, we've seen this kind of situation on a loop in america. the names that we know and those that we don't. a young, promising young man whose family loved him, played the violin, was a massage therapist, all around seemingly good guy. from all accounts, just an ordinary guy. imagine the fear he must have been under. right? getting a choke hold placed around your neck. cops stopping you for no reason at all. certainly we have seen time and again, far too frequently, it's fatal. >> we have a situation in aurora, at least, where choke holds and ketamine are now banned. does that play into this at all, danny? >> reading this complaint is really astounding to the modern eye because it involves the corotted neck hold, and involves
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the injection of ketamine. some states still allow. that didn't go well in this case, they allegedly misdiagnosed him, allegedly gave him a dose that was anesthetic, instead of sub anesthetic, something too much for his body weight. if you're weighing the causation, the police officers may have a defense if the causation argument is, hey, we may have been wrong in stopping him, arrested him, but if the cause of death was ketamine, that should be more on the emts, look for that to be a defense. whether it will work or not remains to be seen. >> there are trials with that coming up a little later on. i want to ask you about an incident in alabama last week. a band director was shocked, tasered after police say he refused to tell his students to stop playing in a high school football game. i want to take a look at the body camera footage, and we
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should warn our viewers, this is upsetting to look at. >> get off me. excuse me. let's go. put me in jail. put me in jail. >> i want to get some context here. both bands were playing what is commonly known as fifth quarter. this is a post game musical tradition. we see it in predominantly black high schools, predominantly black colleges and universities. i want to ask you both, and i'll start with you from a legal perspective, what you see on that tape. >> not just that tape. it's a longer tape that was released and shows the initial
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encounter, and police are asking the band director to stop, and at least seven times he tells them get out of my face. that's a judgment i probably wouldn't have made. i tell all clients, all prospective clients, just do what the police tell you. it's far better to avoid an arrest, even if it means you get disrespected, unfortunately. that's the world we live in. once the police make the decision to arrest, they only escalate until they put you in the backseat of that car, and it will get physical. if you look at the video, that's the part i'm talking about. he's repeatedly telling them, get out of my face. get out of my face. were the police being unreasonable? should they have let him complete the song? yes. but unfortunately police make some bad judgments of their own. what people need to do so they are not victims of this kind of thing is to just comply, get away from the police, make sure they can't put their hands on you. >> i can't imagine how terrifying it was for the students who are trying to listen to their band director, but what do you see? >> it's such a part of
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tradition. is there something we're missing here? a piece of context beyond what we're seeing on the video. this is a tradition in high schools and being asked to leave by police, what got it to that point. there has to be something we're missing. >> thank you both, good to have you in studio. >> still ahead, major stakes as auto workers say they will expand their strikes in two days. why democrats are fearful it could hurt biden's campaign. and new questions surrounding the $100 million military jet malfunction and the new video of where it crashed. you got to see this. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc (ella) fashion moves fast. setting trends is our business. we need to scale with customer demand... ...in real time. (jen) so we partner with verizon to take our operations to the next level. (marquis) with a custom private 5g network. (ella) with verizon business, we get more control of production, efficiencies, and greater agility.
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the politics of the uaw strike is amping up pretty significantly today. republican presidential candidates see an opening, and just as opponents are taking to the debate stage, former president trump innin to ta on president biden himself in detroit. "politico" suggests that move has the democrats sounding the alarm on the president's handling of the auto strike. i want to bring in nbc's shaq brewster in toledo, ohio, and a striking stellantis plant. also with me, former florida republican congressman, carlos
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calbello. where do things stand right now? we're in day six of the strike. >> reporter: day six but now a new count down looking ahead to friday. the headline is there's still no deal. as you can tell by the workers here who are still on the picket line who say they will remain on the picket line as long as they need to. you hear them chanting right now, no justice, no juice. what you're also starting to see is a concern about the ripple effects from these striking workers and the effect they'll have on nonstriking workers. 2,000 workers are being idled. since you're here, let me ask you, let me ask you, why are you out here? >> to strike. >> reporter: out of all the demands out there, what do you care most about? >> afford what i make. that's all i can say. >> reporter: appreciate you. the tier system is one of the things you continue to hear workers say they care most
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about, chris. and, you know, the ripple effects i was talking about, not just at the plants in kansas, but you're also seeing them around the plants here, the local uaw president telling us at least two or three suppliers in the area, in the toledo area, not associated with stellantis but providing parts to the facility are now seeing layoffs. they're now having about 600 to a thousand workers giving those layoff notices. the stalemate continues. we know conversations continue to happen. we know we're at day six of the strike now, and we know we have a new deadline, friday at noon, if there's no deal by then, you can expect more facilities, more plants to have scenes like the ones behind me. >> mr. brewster, you handled that well, and we got a good answer. >> reporter: we knew each other from before. >> old friends. thank you, shaq. appreciate it. look, congressman, olitico" talked to one union adviser about how they looked at
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trumsdecision, he's going to new york. onhe stage, the other ters republicans, but also he wants to t on joe biden, and said, quote, that trump is still himself and willay and do crazy expletive, but the person added, he actually has people who know what they're doing. he boxed biden in. it was kind of genius. has biden been out played? >> it's pretty remarkable, chris, how politics have shifted in our country over the last decade. in the past, it would be the democratic nominee for president or candidate who would be sympathetic to unions and the republican would usually align him or herself with business interests. now you see donald trump, the leading candidate on the republican side, trying to show that he's actually more loyal and more sympathetic to big unions than the sitting democratic president. certainly this is a bold move by donald trump, and he knows this
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is important for his campaign. union households were a big part of his surprising coalition in 2016. and if he actually wants to win the presidency, again, he's going to need them in 2024. >> we're going to hear about this in the debate. no doubt about it, trump's 2024 rivals also see the strike as a flash point, let me just play a couple of examples. >> well, it tells you that when you have the most pro union president, he touts that he is emboldening the unions, this is what you get, and i'll tell you what he pays for it is the taxpayers. >> ronald reagan gave a great example, you strike, you're fired, simple concept to me. we could use that once again, absolutely. >> some tough talk. is this going to play on the campaign trail? do you think this is something
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resonating with a lot of early voters? >> what you're seeing is the tension, the battle between traditional republicans, tim scott, nikki haley, who do align themselves with employers, corporations, criticize strikes, and the new populist republicans, people like donald trump, and those who try to imitate him, who want to align themselves with unions, who want to align themselves with workers, who want to eat into the democratic base. our politics are in flux, chris, and this union issue puts all of it on display. it shows how donald trump is already running in a general election, and how his primary challengers are trying desperately to bring him back down to earth so that they can compete with him and hopefully there's still time, but it looks more and more difficult every day. hopefully for them, try to catch up to him in this republican contest. >> congressman, thanks, and please stay with me, meantime in
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hollywood, there's new movement today in the writers strike that's affecting the livelihoods of hundreds of thousands of people in the entertainment industry, and of course, millions of tv and movie fans. for the first time in more than a month, the writers guild, resuming talk with studios. i want to bring in nbc news entertainment correspondent, chloe melas. >> it's hard to say, today is a pivotal moment. these talks are taking place today, finally, as you say, it's been over a month. the issues, the wga, and amtpt have to do with artificial intelligence, residuals in the streaming era, and they have not been seeing eye to eye for months now. a source telling me this week that these talks are expected to last days, and this is having a
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big impact. this is not just about what you watch on tv and having to sit at home and watch reruns. this is costing the california economy $5 billion and counting. we're talking about 17,000 u.s. jobs lost. look at the last jobs report that just came out. this is affecting the transportation industry, the construction industry, dry cleaning. things that you might not even be thinking of. i want you to reason to what someone had to say about how it's affecting them. >> people are losing houses. people are losing their car. people are needing to go to food banks. >> i'm two months behind on my rent. and i'm very likely going to get this new bar tending job, but even then i'm going to need that money for next month's rent. i don't know how i'm going to pay the last two month's rent. i feel vulnerable, and i haven't
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dealt with a financial thing like this in a long time. >> it's not going to be perfect but there has to be concessions on both sides. they're going to have to meet in the middle because the ramifications are not so simple. let's imagine they come up with a resolution tomorrow, which would be unlikely, it's going to take months for hollywood, if not longer to get back on its feet, and the impact its having on families and individuals across this country are very far reaching. chloe melas, thank you very much. i know you'll keep us posted. former president trump with a full court press in iowa. but will his recent remarks on abortion create an opening for his rivals in that state? you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. you're watinchg "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc ♪♪ can't stop adding stuff to your cart? get the bank of america customized cash rewards card, choose the online shopping category and earn 3% cash back.
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he's already way ahead in the polls. now, donald trump is looking to deliver that final knockout punch to his rivals by dramatically upping his ground game in iowa. right now, the former president is speaking to supporters at the first of two events in that state today. and he'll travel there four more times in the next six weeks. iowa is also considered a must win for florida governor ron desantis who's on a mission to visit all 99 counties by october. joining us now, nbc's vaughn hillyard who's in dubuque, iowa, back with us carlos carbello.
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it was just over a week ago, we were talking about the question mark surrounding trump's iowa effort or lack thereof in that state. is this him listening to his critics? >> reporter: absolutely, donald trump other the course of the summer sparsely visited the state of iowa. this is one of five trips planned by the end of october. donald trump just on stage, he's about 30 minutes south of where we are in dubuque. this is the location of his second stop. where just on stage he told the crowd that he learned lessons from the first process eight years ago when he narrowly lost to senator ted cruz in the iowa caucus. for donald trump, this is notable here. he has an entirely new staff and operation here in the state. the folks coming to the network, filling out these commit to caucus cards. what happened eight years ago is the organization around donald trump, they galvanized, they were passionate, and they had a lot of folks, thousands of them,
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with cards like these. but ultimately in the final days of the campaign, it was the separation of ultimately getting those folks and communicating with them the necessity of actually coming to caucus, which cruz in the last days of the 2016 primary campaign there, they were able to get their voters out here, and i have been told by folks around donald trump now that they understand the necessity of getting folks to actually show up. it's notable, too, the last time anybody won by more than 10 percentage points in the iowa caucus was bob dole 36 years ago, and it's important to note that governor kim reynolds will not be at this event today. notably last night in a tweet she said that it was not a terrible thing to sign a six-week abortion ban, which donald trump if his interview with kristen welker on "meet the press" over the weekend, suggested that a similar law by ron desantis was a terrible
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thing, a terrible mistake. kim reynolds speaking out, without using donald trump by name, speaking out against the position, a question mark in the next four months before the iowa caucus on january 15th is whether there's an opening here, and whether there is consolidation around anyone in particular, around nikki haley or ron desantis, and whether kim reynolds herself will endorse somebody not named donald trump here. >> congressman, clearly the issue of abortion is one that at least ron desantis thinks might provide an opening and that back and forth between former president trump and the very popular governor reynolds is something he talked about on radio iowa. here's what he said. >> i think if he's going into this saying he's going to make the democrats happy with respect to right to life, i think all pro lifers should know that he's preparing to sell you out. >> how important do you think this issue is going to be, congressman? i mean, there obviously are
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pockets of the republican party that will follow some of the details of it very closely. but when you go up against a governor like kim reynolds, could it be trouble? >> chris, evangelical voters will pay attention to this. it will make some difference, but at the end of the day, donald trump is going to be able to take credit for overturning roe v. wade. that's what conservatives worked on for about 50 years and donald trump is going to say, look, i'm being criticized on abortion, yet i delivered this huge victory that the movement had been working on for so long. so i think it will have an impact, but unfortunately for candidates like ron desantis, it is not going to represent a big blow to donald trump. and by the way, donald trump is ignoring all of this. we saw his interview on "meet the press." he's running as a general election candidate. he is suggesting that somehow he can find a compromise between republicans and democrats on abortion. very unlikely.
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but donald trump doesn't care about these attacks from ron desantis and this indirect attack from kim reynolds. he is focused on the general election, and he knows that abortion is a vulnerability for republicans in general elections. we have seen that since the overturning of roe. >> congressman, and vaughn hillyard, thank you so much. among the notable world leaders skipping the u.n. general assembly, french president emanuel macron. he stayed in paris to roll out the red carpet for the uk's king charles and queen camila as they look to rebuild a relationship that has been strained by brexit. the three-day state visit originally planned for march was postponed during those fiery protests against macron's pension overhaul plan. crowds gathered to see the two leaders lay a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier. fighter jets from both countries air force flew overhead, spreading trails of red, white and blue smoke, and on the menu tonight, a state dinner at their side before one-on-one talks
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fighter jet managed to fly 60 miles without a pilot ithe cockpit, the ap is reporting that the pilot parachuted down into the backyard of a south carolina home after he was ejected. this is brand new video showing the debris field that investigators will comb through to find clues. as two eyewitnesss describe the moment they saw the jet descend right in the middle of celebrating their son's 7th birthday. >> going inverted. >> reporter: the jet itself was inverted? >> it was probably 3/4 of the way. we could see the canopy. >> i want to bring in nbc news pentagon correspondent, courtney kube. this has caught a lot of people's attention. what questions are being raised about the jet function, and what else happened here? >> i think it's safe to say at this point, there are questions about everything. why did the pilot first eject
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from the aircraft, how did it continue flying for as long as it did, what ultimately brought the air craft down, and then the really big question is why was there this break in communication between the military and air craft, there was a 24-hour long search for the aircraft, and unlocking this mystery that started on sunday afternoon over south carolina. so all of those questions are still out there. we do know that the transponder malfunctioned according to officials, that may give us a tiny little glimmer of information about one of the problems that may indicate some bigger problem with the electrical system on the air craft. again, we simply don't know, and the reality is the way that the u.s. military tends to investigate these incidents, we won't have solid answers for some time, chris. >> when you say we won't have solid answers, what is likely to come out, when will we know something and in what form?
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>> it's months, even longer. the military will generally release some sort of an unclassified version of their investigation into this. now, the one thing i will say, because the pilot was able to eject safely, presumably at this point the military has the pilot's version of what happened here. so they probably know a lot more than we do about what was happening in the air when the pilot decided to eject, and what it was that led that individual to make that decision. so they know a lot more than we do already, chris. >> courtney kube, so good to talk to you my friend, thank you. and that is going to do it this hour. make sure to joining us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. ♪♪ good to be with you, i'm katy tur. there are seven working days before a government shut down. according to punch bowl news, at

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