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psychological propaganda that i internalized as a child. i am finding value in myself as i was born. >> is it hard being vulnerable that you say as a child you wished you were something else? for all sorts of people it is hard to admit even though it may come externally. >> vulnerability is my superpower as an artist. it links me closer to my listener. i do not shy away from the truth of my experience. it inspires others to be honest about their experience. >> thank you to both of you for coming by. >> thank you for having us. >> my pleasure. >> the word of the day is vulnerability. victor is out now you can get it where ever you listen to
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music. the reidout is up next. >> tonight on the reidout . >> to be clear, the whole is in place and will remain in place as long as the pentagon's legal abortion policy remains in place. if the pentagon remains in place, that i will list my hold. >> last night's confirmation of the new joint chiefs of staff means democrats blinked on his proposals. what that really means is he was outmaneuvered by chuck schumer and caved on his stand on abortion. plus general mark millie unloads on donald trump. he did all he could to stop the man from trashing they use the
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constitution. and you know and love her, the fabulous leslie jone . >> the world we no is hanging by a thread. the organization's chief with a dire warning to leaders around the world. one we would all be well advised to heed. >> our world is becoming unhinged. political tensions are rising in global tensions are rising. we seem incapable of coming together to respond. >> he told world leaders that humanity has unleashed gates of health with floods and wildfires around the world. millions of people are dying because of our indifference around the world. one of the main countries
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profiting off the addiction is saudi arabia. what washing and atrocious human rights track record. and for signs death that u.s. resident journalist and being home to the eight teen of the perpetrators of the deadliest terrorist attack to take place at u.s. soil. the man behind the mission who sends taking control has launched a financial media campaign to remake the country's image. the fun notice of public investment fund is buying major stakes in u.s. companies like hoover, matta, starbucks and they are investing millions in golf with their investments in u.s. media. while they are buying power, hashtag jared kushner. there is the grasp of russia.
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and as they die on the front lines, president zelinski pleads for the world's health. >> he took the message to the american congress where most have refused to protect him freedom. with the unhinged party that says it's about freedom but it is for putin and autocracy and that his cause is worth fighting for. >> there was a single sentence where he said if we don't get the aid, we will lose the war. >> with allegedly pleasing a criminal and serial liar,
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donald trump who was holed up in his estate in florida. and kevin mccarthy who has refused to demonstrate leadership style. and he is addressing a joint session of congress. >> yes for a joint session but we didn't have time to put the bipartisan group together to meet with him. >> the leader of party actively tying 100 i democracy's back. just take for example what is caucus did earlier today. the proceeds will go to consider their own spending bill which would fund the people defending the country. it is so bad that even both sides of the media couldn't
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decide. meanwhile, donald trump is egging this incompetence on from the sidelines urging the republican party in a phone tweet to shut down the government and take our economy because frankly he is terrified of going to prison and he is demanding republican lackeys defunded jack smith. and he seems to have a genuine belief that republicans can put into the investigation into his alleged crimes. it is a show with cleanup quote from their caucus. they are insistent on bringing this country to its economic knees while watching the world burn. while that happens, they want to pass tax cuts to help the rich get richer and what richer and the fight of their wage. at this point they don't care about the american people that they care about scoring points.
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>> reporter: is and by anybody? >> no, to be honest. >> the worst part of this fiasco is that general mccarthy has said his troops home to the weekend. instead of job well done, it is job not done. i am joined by elizabeth warren, member of the senate banking and finance committees. senator, thank you for being here. where to begin? we are beginning with the republican party in donald trump who has demanded that his last chance to stop the political investigations against him. he wants to include defending jack smith the special prosecutor in the investigations against him and not, he says to shut the government down. your thoughts.
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>> we have been talking about the extremists in the house and republicans. sometimes demands were met by kevin mccarthy and they change with their demands are. people don't seem to no what they want and exactly what they want. they want to do whatever they can to help donald trump. that means right now to shut down the government because it will impose paying on the american people. it will be damaging to the u.s. economy. it will undermine us all around the world. they believed and donald trump believes that advances the likelihood that donald trump will be elected in 2024. so, this has real purpose to it. the scary part is that so far kevin mccarthy is letting them
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run the country and moving us in the direction of government shutdown that really well do damage to americans and people around the world. >> it seems so far that senate republicans have been hands-off on this despite the catastrophic implications of a government shutdown. it will hurt their districts just as much as the democratic districts. is there some conversation about what to do efficient the government down? what then? >> this is the problem. it takes both the house and the senate to agree on a spending bill. whether the short-term or the overall budget for next year in order to keep the government funded. there is no way around that decision that kevin mccarthy has to make about whether he
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leaves a handful of extremists in charge who are -bent on imposing people of the american people so that donald trump can improve his chances of getting elected in 2024. or whether kevin mccarthy will say enough of this. i have other republicans plus a lot of democrats who would vote in favor of a reasonable spending bill just to keep the government up and running and keep our economy going and to keep us doing the actual business of the government. that's what we should be doing. >> one piece of business that needs to be done is to pass in defense authorization bill. pre-negotiated bill that was a done deal and it was a procedural vote to push it through and that has not happened. on the senate side, writing the process of military promotions to a halt.
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there will be a replacement for the joint chiefs of staff, mark milley . we have done the math or some folks have done the math and it would take about 30 days or a couple of months. >> longer than that, actually. >> how long? >> some estimates are eight hours per day and seven days per week and all around and people are talking about hundreds of days that would be chewed up with the military nominations. that is time we cannot spend voting on a budget and time we cannot spend confirming judges. it's time we cannot spend on the other nominations we have as well like amb should said assistant secretaries of different agencies. but understand this, what the senator has done is undermine
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our national security. he has made america a riskier country. take the word of our active military and retired military and even republicans who have stepped up and said this is dangerous for the united states of america. you cannot ask for better propaganda for our adversaries than the fact that the united states of america cannot get its military leaders into their duty stations so they can actually do their jobs. that is where we are. now, senator tuberville is starting to feel a lot of heat. a lot of heat around the senate and a lot of heat nationally. what we have now seen is that there is a craft that has opened. so, last night, and again
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today, leader schumer moved three military nominations forward altogether. so we would not spend days and days on it as the senate would otherwise require. that is the first step in getting things done but make no mistake, we have to do more. more than 300 nominees are out there and more than 300 military families who are trying to manage homes in two places because they cannot get from where they're now to the next duty station. children not registered in the right schools. a political football that senator tuberville is turn our military into . we have to put a stop to this and to find a
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way to move all of these people through together. our national defense depends on moving our military leaders forward and getting senator tuberville out of the way . >> you no, it seems that what tuberville is doing and others are doing does seem in many incidences to essentially entertain viewers of what network, fox, and other right wing media. there does not seem to be a purpose behind that. your called fox that dangerous factory of lies that have been lots in the assessment of the damage they have done to our democracy. do you have confirmation that rupert murdoch at 92 is stepping down and is becoming emeritus and longer running the company? >> rupert murdoch build a for
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profit machine. that machine has undermined our democracy and done incalculable damage to this nation. i am glad he is leaving but i wish he had never come. >> i want to ask about saudi arabia. we did an interview with the prints and i have been having lots and lots of investments. including the $2 billion to steve minutia and. what are they buying for all of that and what is the use getting out of that. they are getting a laundry that they are calling the united states in our culture. >> you think about this in the right well way. they are putting a prettier
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face on a lot of actions this leader has taken directly and that the kingdom itself has underwritten around the world. i get that it will work in some circles but i guarantee that what they have done so far will not work for most people around the world. >> coming back to the senate again. the person who should be most influential over someone like a tommy tuberville would be mitch mcconnell. he has had some issues and likes and falls and things on camera which are in disturbing. is he in charge? where is mitch mcconnell and pushing back on these abuses and we have the government and potentially nine days. >> i will put it this way, senator tuberville is enabled by all republicans in the
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senate. the republicans in the senate have permitted him for seven months now to block military leaders from going to their posts and doing their work. they have gone along with it and they have looked the other way would have been asked about it. they have mumbled and fumbled and let senator tuberville continue to inflict growing trouble and paying on our national defense. i put this on the entire republican sentence caucus. they are together under the leadership of senator mcconnell and they need to stop it. this has got to and. in the -- end.
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>> rank matters and have to have the right person in the room. when you have someone acting at lower rate comments way to say to the allies, you are not serious in this alliance. our support wanes at that point. so, you can replicate that right now around the globe. i cannot underscore enough the urgency of stopping senator tuberville as he continues to undercut our national security. >> senator elizabeth warren, thank you very much for your time. i very much appreciate it. >> and republicans are a tizzy about why they are being blamed for trying to shut down the government. maybe it's because they are trying to shut down the government. more after this.
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>> we are completely dysfunctional. >> it is not conservative republicanism, this is stupidity. the idea we are going to shut the government down we don't control the white house and we don't control the government. these people don't know how to take yes for an answer and is a clamshell. >> house republicans in a
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dumpster fire and a runaway train. senator mccarthy out of options to avoid a shutdown after ultra right wing members slapped down his attempt with the spending bill. some republicans are accepting their fate without a shred of self-awareness. mike simpson told political, we always get the claim. name one time we have shut the government down and we have got the blame. i am joined by george conway, construed beauty writer and founder of veterans of america and host of the veterans podcast. i mean, george, name one time when we shut the government down we have not gotten the blame. name one time i have punch somebody in the face with not
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getting the blame for making a scar on their face. republican wine that they get the blame and then shut the government down. what's going on? >> at least in the past you could figure out some they the republicans were trying to obtain it made some level of sense. maybe a concrete goal they had although it may be fuzzy at times and they were using the threat of a shutdown to obtain that. that is not going on now and it is what members of congress are trying to convey. i heard the phrase extreme republicanism and conservatism. we have got to the stage where they don't support the military or the rule of law. it is not conservatism, it is nihilism. it is distraction for the sake of destruction.
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they want to shut down the government to make points to get money for small donors again on fox news. to say, look, we thought the big government and they are antigovernment for the sake of government being antigovernment without reasoning the government they god and that is anti-military and anti everything. it is a road to nowhere and her road to destruction. >> if you want something anti- military, i don't no one is more anti-military than stopping all promotions in the military because of abortion. the military is not paying for abortions but if you need to travel out of alabama because it is illegal, you can get money to travel see you don't get go broke. people are not getting rich in the military. and lloyd auin the secretary
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of defense even with himself and that did not have them. what is happening? >> it is radical and ridiculous and also orientated. this is not accidental and is a strategy i call it the american insurgency. this group of people want to distract and dismantle and overthrow our government and they are trying to do it in different ways. and tommy tuberville is the one who is like a political suicide bomber going into achieve an ideological goal. is the same as white nationalism in the military. he and others are blocking an overwhelmingly qualified american hero for the joint chiefs of staff that. i call him senator redneck because he has a back word ideology and he has friends. 10 of his friends were the only
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ones to forget spread vote against brown. moran is right and throwing punches. and somebody stop this madness and call for tuberville to reside and stop endangering our national security and helping our enemies. it's not just politics, it's about national and international stability. it includes ukraine and it is damaging. >> you want to stop fighting ukraine too. there is a certain contempt for the military who they claim to support and that does come from trump. this studying profile of general mark milley who has been talking about issues that
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are important. at a ceremony acss from the capital, mark milley ha chosen a severely wounded army ain to sing god bless america. head completed five combat tours and lost aeg in afghanistan and had suffered two heattacks into strokes and brain damage as relt of his injuries. he and hisife recognize the here is the of soldiers. arrange that day and the ground was soft and at one point his wheelchair threatened to t over. trump walked over to congratulate him and then said within earshot of witnesses, why do you bring people like that here, never bring people like that here again. that kind of disgusting attitude toward a wounded
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veteran, that is trump. is that what has infected the party? >> yes, it's a culture of contempt that he has encouraged tenants across the country. it's a movement of people who have contempt of all things honorable and with integrity. they made a consistent focal point our national security and our military. is now longer senator john mccain and others. it is tuberville and ron desantis and others where they talk about the military. it's where american is right now. disgusting people with no honor and then you have people defending the military democracy. you have to look at this contrast and i applaud them for
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stepping over. in the meantime we need to elevate the voices hen they do leak out and hold the line and find someone like tuberville who is doing the work of susan and our enemies. >> that story about donald trump. he and mark milley are opposites on the human spectrum in so many ways. mark milley was apologetic after that disgusting display outside the white house when trump wanted to hold the bible upside down. what you make of trump's attitude versus mark milley ? >> they are opposites. complete moral opposites. one man is patriotic and selfless and wants to do the best for the country. another doesn't care about the country and only about himself. if donald trump were to give a speech to explain what he
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thinks the country should be doing and what we should be doing for the country, it's asked not what the country can do for you, ask what you can do for the country and for me. it's all about him. it is no way to say it, he is,. scum and i am insulting scum. >> [ laughter ]. thank you very much. first, as the summer of strikes transitions into fall, union workers fight for their livelihoods well there are union busters. plaque bacteri. and forms an antibacterial shield. try parodontax active gum health mouthwash.
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new hopes for a deal with the writers guild. united auto workers have just declared a strike against ford, general motors and still lances to put pressure on the automakers for higher pay. with a burst of momentum in the past couple of years and republicans remain committed to their deeply popular antiunion stance. >> i was a union buster and did want to bring in companies that
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were unionizing. >> the federal boys decided they were going to strike. in the civil concept made, absolutely. donald trump with a different approach planning to travel to detroit to win over current and former union verse instead of attending the republican primary debate. saying every pore of our economy is fighting the billionaire class which enriches people like donald trump and the added expense of workers. the professor and founding director for theology and public policy at yale. going back to the two south carolina candidates for president bragging about busting unions. tim scott's saying that if you strike you get fired. they come from the state where the jobs from detroit are
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going. down south to nonunion facilities where people make less money. what you make of this fight between americans for wages? >> the anti-work and antiunion chief was brokered. she did not back down until people were killed in a church. she has been on the wrong side of restoring voting rights and has been a against medicare. when she was governor in south carolina, over 1 million were poor. she did into anything about that one day and people made less than $15 per hour and she didn't do anything about that. people were insured and she didn't do anything about that and neither did tim scott. what they normally want to do is talk about immigrants and
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game people and the american people don't really get to see what they are really against and that you being able to buy food and being able to even pay your bills. it is critical. on the other side you see trump making this move. autocrats have played to the working class and the poor binding ministration needs to take this seriously. with the religious leaders and the poor workers union or nonunion. let's get wages back on the agenda. the senate on to pass it. don't underestimate the ability of trump to slip in and take some of the workers off with him. >> there is a labor expert who said the detroit three
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e competitors have foreignour. factories pay $55 per hour. tesla wishes nonunion is down $45 and $50 per hour. essentially, even when switching to electric which is better for the environment, it feels like auto industries are shifting to lower wage were. how do we shift with that for people to make a wage and be able to live? >> until you lift the bottom wage of, they can bring the wages down. if my policy had passed and one democrats and republicans have not stood against us, the people would've had a minimum wage of more than $15 for our and that would impact upward.
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as long as the minimum wage is seven dollars, you have room o play. that is why we cannot allow the union workers and nonunion be pitted against each other on the living wage. we have to challenge the jobs and wages constantly going down. all the republicans care about is helping the billionaires and the ceos. it's about profit and profit sharing. that is why this union movement and the strikes are important in the political narrative. without that, they hide behind where the immigrant is or trans people. they don't want this conversation and trump is smart enough to see that and that is why he is trying to move in and peel people off.
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they don't have the house and should pass everything they can in the senate. there should be a major gathering of moral religious leaders with the workers union right now in the midst of this to make sure the standard does not change because we can get people exposed to we do. >> bishop harper, thank you very much and hopefully the democrats are listening. up next, i spoke with the hilarious leslie jones about her memoir. you don't want to visit. stay off the freeways! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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oh yeah, that is them. (that is howard) yeah, that's on howard's campus. ohhh, she's so powerful, she carried on the family legacy. we were blown away. (chuckles) i not only was a student and an undergrad, but i've been a professor there for twenty years, so it's really a special moment to know that i had a family member who over a hundred years prior have walk these grounds. it's deeply uplifting. yes, it is. we're walking in their footsteps.
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>> i am 53 years old and i have been through a lot of presidencies. you know i'm saying? i was here with reagan and i have a great sense of humor. he had to have great since of humor because either you're going to cry are you going to last and i would rather laugh. >> that was leslie jones in her first ever appearance here on msnbc on the show in 2020 on the importance of having through the pain. you may know her from s and now as filling in on the daily show and filling in for steve. >> and when people numbing from
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the top ice and it's not. don't take away my choice to have a bad morning. when women have a choice, women have freedom. >> what does this man have to do to get thrown out of congress? he is a liar. people don't get believed when they tell the truth and this guy was like i was a millionaire jewish volleyball's star. and they are like yeah, put them in congress. we are back together again. >> is supposed be for us. with your shirt and your regular tie in your two-tone belt, you belong to us. >> [ laughter ]. >> an introspective side to her
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as well when she explores in her memoir about what she went through to get to where she is today. she writ one of the reasons i was on this planet as i was billed to be strong and i want to share it and pay it forward. it's my job to help other girls and black women get strong like the. and the great leslie jones. >> listen, so this is the book and i'm so excited about it. you told your story. i've seen you do stand up and i have watched you on snl . people don't understand what --ople don't understand what
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,, regular black family life. it wasn't just something tha was totally special, but not o special, you know what i'm saying i'm saying about the book wanted to write was you know everybody has a dream. but you have to have a path to that dream and it starts when you'r younger. it starts, you have to start b young. you know >> i happen to know, from your book, that one of your dream was to play in the wnba. talk about this. tell me the story a little bit how you got sidetracked from supposedly being a wnba star t comedy >> well, honestly, i was on basketball scholarship and m coach got recruited to divisio i college and he recruited me. and, you know, at the time, we were like, i don't know if i
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didn't have no dreams, but i just had a thing i knew i coul do and that was play basketballs. i was, like okay, when i finished college all g overseas and play, because there wasn't a wnba when i was growing up so i was going to play overseas and one of my friends, at that college, and hurt me into comedy contest and that was it that was, just like, the direction. it wasn't a citric, it was a beginning. because, to be in basketball that mount etna side track or basketball might have been the, you know, the way to get where i am now >> and you're really candid in your book about surviving abuse, not as a victim but as a survivor but also just the world of comedy is a boys club and so surviving the boys club, not just as a woman, but as a blac woman, took a little bit about that and how it felt to tell those stories. >> well, this is what i always tell everybody like, your life is not defined by a moment. i don't think.
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so everybody's office, lik there is what moments. no, there's a lot of moments because it's very true about your life not ending at 38 years old. you know, you live to be 56. do you get what i'm saying so it's not like the moment, it's a moments and it shouldn't just define you as a person, it shouldn' define what you want to do i this world i always say, circumstances ar circumstances, but if you have the drive, if you have got equal power, you have dots t go out and do the work for it, nobody can take it from you. no matter what so, i know everybody survive things, the way they survive things but i've never caught myself o it and i think anybody who does survive it is not a victim >> absolutely. >> but there are boys club everywhere, i know you know. >> listen, trust me.
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that's a whole other conversation but the thing is, one of the things i do love about you i you're not afraid to b political. and there is some comedians who, say you know what, we want t steer away from the politica stuff because you want to be a the biggest audience possible. but you're every open abou being political and talkin about political issues do you feel that in the sort o anti-woke environments, that can still work for a comedia on the come up trying to mak it in the industry >> especially if you're trying to interpret it. we are comedians we talk to regular people. do you understand what i'm saying like, you, joy, can go into classroom and teach, straits point to point to point. me, i'm going to go an interpret what you said. so people can laugh at its because when you laugh at it you do examine what it is. does that make sense and that's what our job is as comedian to make all this hard stuff, t understand it, and to have a
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sense of humor about it. because lord have mercy, it' laughable sometimes. if, oh my goodness, if w didn't have comedy we would be losing our minds, if we didn't have a sense of humor abou some of the crazy stuff that i happening right now. and as far as getting involved how can i put this, how can not? i am a black woman and america so of course, i'm alread involved may existing, may existing, th advocacy of me just existing >> boom. >> is an advocate for blac people so there's no way to not b involved i don't shown people who don't i get it but i've just never been that. wait >> a man. you sure have, francis the book is leslie effin jones. if you want to understand th system, you need to get this book leslie jones, i appreciateou y so much. thanks for being here >> you always, joy.
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