your dad says that he sees your mom in you and in your sister. do you think she would be proud of you and what you've accomplished? >> i think she would. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. k you for watching >> happy saturday, welcome some morning joe: weekend. >> you know that with my line. >> i can't start this? >> no. let's dive into some of the week stories. >> do i have to say anything in

your contract? >> no, here at the top stories. former white house aide, cassidy hutchinson, who testified before the house january six committee last year. she was groped by rudy giuliani shortly below the capitol attack. the allegations are laid out in her notebook, which is set for release next week. according to the guardian, which has obtained a copy of the book, hutchinson alleges that she was approached by giuliani while standing backstage during then president donald trump's speech at the ellipse on january 6th. the former new york city mayor was serving as trump's personal attorney at the time. and was leading efforts at overturn the 20 election results. hutchinson writes quote,rudy wraps one arm around my body. closing the space separating as. eel his stack of documents press into thesmall of my back. i lower my eyes, andwatch his free hand reach for the heof

my blazer. byhe way, he says,ngering the fabric. i am lovingthis leather jacket on you. his hand slips under my blazer, and then my skirt. nbc nbc news has not obtained a copy of hutchinson's books. though the person familiar with it saying the quotes published by the guardian are accurate. responding on a right-wing cable network last night, giuliani called the obligation absolutely forests, and totally absurd. >> again, she is, she went through so much on january the 6th. and we did not even know half of it. and again. >> what a nightmare. >> it's just one shock after another coming from these people. but they just say nothing matters. they can literally overturn a, or a try to overturn a federal election. and nobody will hold them accountable. and it goes down to this

personal behavior as well. >> i think one of the things that we all learned for me to, is look at patterns of behavior. we don't want to play judge and jury. but you can look at public behavior the sea of something as credible. giuliani at the moment is being sued by a former personal assistant who alleges that he sexually assaulted her. we have seen video of giuliani compromising positions, and his defense that he put out last night, would be why would you believe her because she took two years to come forward? we all know that victims of sexual assault can take years, if they ever come forward. it is a very hard thing to do. it's humiliating, people don't like to talk about it in public. so i think you can stack up the behavior. and then catch and see hutchinson's credibility when she testified before the january six committee and see that she is a credible witness. there's really chilling detail when she talked about the fact that his frozen figures, it was january the 6th, creep up her thigh. and then she looks at john eastman, i think kind of almost to look for support in that

circumstance, and says that john eastman just looked at her leering lee. you kind of think, what does this go to. what was the culture in that environment that was permissive of this kind of behavior? >> take whatever you want. that was the culture. from the top down, and jen it has to be said two of cassidy hutchinson, this is not easy to do the things that she has done over the last year and a half. within the trump world or within the party from the personal attacks and people who come after her. and i'm sure she need security and everything else to come up and say these things against figures like donald trump, and giuliani, who are gods in trump world. it's not easy for her to do this. again, this is an allegation, and if there is a crime here than we will see what happens. but, she has this book coming out that should be more inside of it. >> and i think giuliani also said that, talked about how she was trying to sell books. you know what? cassidy hutchinson does not need to make up anything to sell books. people are really interested

and what this woman has to say. and, you're right about what this says about the overall culture, and what was acceptable, what in terms of lying, in terms of when they're treated with misogyny, but then also i think about how with the january six committee, it was so often young women that came forward and even the woman from georgia that came forward to testify what happened with them. but cassidy hutchinson and that woman from the trump press office, that was willing to come forward to say what was really going on there. really brave. and cassidy hutchinson has to have security, there is death threats against. are really high price of pain. >> this is just one more glaring example of the depth of decadence and danger involved in this administration. from the presidency on down. from the president himself, on down to the people around him.

and jonathan, in washington you have to wonder, again, we do it daily, hourly. how many members of the republican party have been not caught a sized by this behavior over the years? have just gotten so used to it, so familiar to it that they regard none of it as outrageous or the depth of danger involved in this. >> certainly this is what cassidy hutchinson describes is not out of the norm from what we know of the trump administration. where young female aides were laird at constantly. sometimes by then president. there was a culture we said earlier of people just taking what they want, that those in senior positions that could street there staff anyway they chose. and that's part of what fueled everything around the election. where those in power decided that they wanted to stay in power, and did everything they could to try to overturn it. including up to two up and they are elections.

and we have seen republicans time and time again turn a blind eye to this. they allow trump in office, and out of office, to dictate whatever he wants. and the party takes it as marching orders. we see them rallies to his defense again now. with all of these indictments. we are seeing them again, do his bidding and going forth with this impeachment inquiry. potentially going for it with a government shutdown. even though polls suggest, americans do not want that, and will likely hold republicans responsible. because trump does not care about the republican party, he only cares about himself. that is been the case all along. it is a party of one, he demands loyalty. but never shows any and return. he demands >> you see this in poli, you see this and sports, you see this and business about culture. it all starts at the top. and it is important to recognize that this is the access hollowed it presidency. >> stormy daniels presidency. >> everyone knew who donald trump was, the access hollywood

tape as mika said earlier. you had payoffs to porn stars, who he then shamed, said she had a horse face. face shamed mika, and back to back with republicans criticize what donald trump did. >> e. jean carroll. >> e. jean carroll in the depositions, talking about she is not my type. she is this, she is that. insulting e. jean carroll's lawyer saying you are not my type. all the way to a judge in new york state, saying what donald trump did to e. jean carroll's called rape. in the arm it's called rape by the american psychiatric association. is defined as raped by just about any standard that you use. that is the party. that is the party of donald trump. that is the republican party. and certainly, that is the culture that was around donald

trump. so, yeah, so you see this happening and you understand, you know, rudy giuliani does this, and cassidy hutchinson says trump lawyer just leered at her as this is going on. this is a sikh culture. and this is a culture of so-called christians, that they are worshipping right now. christian nationalists are worshipping this culture. >> think about that day. that was happening back stage, this protest allegation. well they were preparing to overthrow the united states government on january 6th. and begin a rally to do that. jeffrey, it gets a little bit worse. a spokesman for giuliani said this is a disgusting lie, a smear against the man who comforted the nation after 9/11. invoking 9/11 in this case. >> again, can we think of a politician who has fallen farther, faster? from american's mayor to this

character that we have now in this ridiculous soap opera. you know, one quick point just to add on to some of the things that jen said before, i thought it was interesting, about powerless young women in the system who are making the system work, but also watching and we were talking about the i.t. person at the top of the hour. by the way, the definition of a bad day is when your i.t. person flips on you. it's part of the same continuum, right? it is the i.t. person, it is the loyal but powerless young person who is working in the system. they are watching everything and now it is the revenge of the powerless against these older men who had power and wielded it in a kind of wonton fashion. but >> when it gets, hairpiece jeffrey, about general milley. and it fits into the story. the confirmation of charles brown as the joint chiefs of

staff comes a little time to spare as general mark milley is set to retire this month as his term ends. jeffrey has a new profile out today of general milley titled, the patriot. in a jeffrey writes, quote, it is fair to say milley came close the red lines that are meant to cap uniform policy sirs from participating in politics. it is also fair to say that no president has ever challenge the idea of competent civilian control of donald trump. and no president has ever questioned the constitutional underpinnings like trump has. the apportionment of responsibility in the american system gives orders. the military carries them out, and it works best when the president is saying. the preservation of military relationship is hugely important to democracy. is universal acceptance to the principle that political officers -- as the military chancellor he also sees quarter six, the home of the chairman of the joint chiefs ofstaff.

jeffrey continues, i visited him there on a number of occasions and almost every time, he walked me out on the porch. he would look out, the actually, on the city before us. on the capitol that was sacked but not burn and say rome has not fallen. one time though he said rome has not fallen yet. this is an exhaustive, excellent piece about general milley, as i said he will be leaving. his term is up very shortly. what did you want to get at with general milley and what did you get out of it that perhaps we have not heard before? >> what i realized about general milley is that he was put in a position no chairman of the joint chiefs has ever been put in before. that is to say, they are not supposed to be, the people who uphold the constitution is to follow the constitution. but its civilian leaders who directed the military. who were supposed to be there. and congress which was supposed to provide oversight of the executive branch. there have been 20 chairman of the joint chiefs, no one has ever had to deal with a

president like this. and, it's totally fascinating to me what he did in the period between the election and january 20th. he took multiple steps, again, not crossing a line. but doing things that no chairman has ever had to do before. multiple steps, both on the domestic and international friends. to make sure that our allies, and adversaries, understood that we were not having a nervous breakdown even though we kind of were having and nervous breakdown. and domestically, to make sure that both the trump folks understood that the military was not going to participate in their shenanigans. and making the force understand that we do not participate in these kind of political shenanigans. we are standing in the barriers. so he was right of darvish in that period. just running around, trying to keep everyone calm, and keep the system from completely malfunctioning. and i don't know if he's gotten enough credit for that. obviously he has gotten the attention of the right-wing.

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secretary of state anthony blinken. also on the table, nbc news correspondent and host of the andrea mitchell reports. andrea mitchell is with us as well. >> mister secretary, great to have you with us. where do we stand right now in terms of washing tint supporting kyiv? do you think you still have enough republicans in the house and senate to keep this country united in its push bank against vladimir putin's illegal invasion? >> joe, good to see you, of makeup, good to see you. and really great to be here this morning. the hallmark of this effort to support ukraine has been

bipartisan support. and we have seen that from day one. conversations i've had with leaders in congress, including a republican leaders in recent days shows that that support remains strong. and, i think it's presidents olivier that has an opportunity to come to washington, to make history directly. to folks in congress. i think that you will see that support continued to be manifested. and it is so vital that we continue to back the ukrainians the way that we have. and by the way, not just us. we have dozens of other countries doing the same thing. the stakes are extraordinarily high. we are here in new york, at the united nations, and this place came together. we kind of forget because it was so long ago. this case came together after two world wars. the basic idea is that countries need to come together, agree on certain rules, how they are going to operate, and how they are going to relate to each other to make sure that we don't have another world war. and a big part of that was saying, and it's right there in the u.n. charter, that you've got to respect another

country's sovereignty. territorial integrity. can't just go, in cross its borders, believe the company, try to take it over. a racer from the map. exactly what putin has tried to do, and failed to do in ukraine. if we allow that to go forward with impunity, if we allow putin to get away with it then it is open season for any aggressor anywhere in the world. they are all watching, and they are saying if he can do it i can do it. that is a world full of conflict, that is a world full of hope, that is a world we do not want to be. so i think the stakes are clear, the interest is clear, and then of course there is a profound human dimension that i know touches a lot of americans. >> that was just a first point. the point about the u.n. charter and sovereignty that you made your case in the security council. you added that russia is committing war crimes. engaging in nuclear saber-rattling, recognizing hunger, and cooperating with north korea in the war effort. it's a case that you have made many times over the last year and a half, it is your sense that the people who need to hear that message are internalizing it? or don't want to do anything about it?

>> i think it is really important that we keep coming back, not just of the strong interest that we have in supporting ukraine. but all the other countries. but also, the human dimensions. because it is easier from so far away. a conference room, to lose sight of that. we're talking big policy issues. i was just in ukraine for the fourth time since the russian aggression. and it is been there so many times as well. we went to a small town, just two and a half hours drive outside of kyiv. and, when the russians came in, 18 months ago, they took over this town. they heard it up all the residents, just a few hundred people. they took them to the school house, they put them in the basement. a basement unfit for human habitation. they have the command post on the ground floor, and they basically put people there as human shields. and it was elderly people, it was women, it was children, as young as a month old. they kept them there for 28 days. in a room not any bigger than the set.

no air, no sanitation. and what happened during those 28 days is truly horrific. i saw this room, people who had been there. they showed me on the wall, a list that they. capitalist that they cape of local residents executed by the russian invaders, and the list of the people who were in that room, and who had died in that room. including about ten people, mostly elderly. if they died in the afternoon, the russians would not allow the removal of the body. so you had children in that room, as young as a couple months old. three, four, five, six years old. force to be there with barely no room to lie down, to be there, with those bodies. 28 days until the ukrainians came back. this is one small town in one place in ukraine. and what we're seeing in different ways, over these 18 months or these kind of abuses and atrocities being committed. we cannot use side of. that >> when you tell that story, mister secretary, prettier counterpart from beijing, or your counterparts

from india who might actually be with vladimir putin, who have leverage, but have not done so. what do they say? why have they not doing more? >> well first, we want to make sure that countries that may have affinities with russia, don't go into support russia with arms, with weapons. but we are also seeing something else. over the last few months, the ukrainians have been pushing their own peace proposal. and we've had a couple of meanings where we bought countries together from around the world, including countries like brazil, like india, like south africa, like china. all coming together to talk about the ukrainian plan for peace. and that is progress. because if all of these countries rallied behind those basic ideas, then i think that we can eventually see some movement. the problem now is this, in this moment, vladimir putin has shown no interest in actually coming up with a meaningful diplomatic settlement. >> mister secretary, i was at an event last night where president zelenskyy was awarded,

and gave a speech, and it is so compelling in person. are you counting on hemp in person to come to this. because a new letter today has enough house and senate members to block the aid. and they're still saying they're going to refuse. >> i think we all know, we've all heard them many times. president zelenskyy is incredibly compelling, he is a terrific communicator. but that communication comes from someplace deep and real. and ultimately, and i keep coming back to this because i've seen, talk to so many ukrainians over the last 18 months. the real difference maker when it comes to success is the fact that they are fighting for their own country. for their own future. for their own lives. the russians are not. in the same way. and i think that makes the biggest difference. and let's keep this in perspective to. just over the last year, the ukrainians have taken back more than 50% of the territory that have been seized from them by putin starting in february 2022. now the last few months of this counteroffensive, it has been

tough. it has been hard going. but they are making progress there too. this is not the time not to give up on them, but there is one last thing supporting here. we are also working to making sure that we can transition to the kind of sustainable, long term support that we and other countries can really get behind. nd otherthat means getting to at basically where ukraine is standing on its own two feet, militarily, economically, democratically, and we've got 30 countries working on that right now. >> mister secretary, this seems to be two conversations happening in new york this week. with the conversation we're having around the table at the moment, about ukraine, but a lot of countries from what you might call the global south, saying hold on a second. this is a priority that is led by america, and european countries. but we are actually much more focused on issues about climate change, and the inequity around climate change, and the degree to which we are suffering. how do you try to reach out to those countries. not just on ukraine, but we do hear you, and expansion of the brakes, the g20, they have a sense of momentum about them.

the feeling that perhaps america is ignoring their agendas? >> if you had an opportunity to listen to the president speak to the general assembly. two thirds, three quarters of the speech was exactly on the issues. the issues directly concerning to people around the globe. and he made the case that we made, as an international community, to focus on them. he made the case that the united states is by far, leading contributor to all these efforts. whether it is on climate, whether it is on food security, whether it is on infrastructure. building at the right way. when it's on global health. all the issues that people care about around the world, we are the number one provider. and it is a false choice to say that it is either ukraine or it is this global agenda. we have to do both and in fact we are doing both. and i think, what i heard after the president spoke, just talking to a lot of my counterparts around the world. was deep appreciation for the focus that he brought to the issues. and appreciation for the fact the united states is leading on them. >> pennsylvania is making it easier for voters to vote.

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pennsylvania's democratic governor, josh shapiro. the commonwealth of pennsylvania is marking national voter registration day. becoming the 24th u.s. state to act automatic registration. >> governor thank you so much for being with us. tell us about how pennsylvania is making it easier to vote. >> look, now when you go to the dmv to get a drivers license, renew your drivers license, joe, you will be able to automatically can't register to vote. unless you choose to opt out. there is about 1.7 million pennsylvanian's who are eligible to vote but aren't registered. this is a safe, secure, streamlined way to be able to

get them to register and get them to participate in our democracy. >> how many more voters do you think you look at registered, that you will get to the table through this process? just from what we have learned from other states that already have it? >> we will see and we will certainly report back. but our secretary of state believes that we will have tens of thousands of new registrations in thefirst year. we will certainly track it and see how it goes. the key ise here is that we need people to participate in our democracy, that is what strengthens it. i have spent my career of fighting to defend the right to vote as attorney general, and of course, as a candidate for governor. i have made a commitment that i would and that automatic voter registration here in the commonwealth of pennsylvania and so i am proud that on this national voter registration day. we are making good on that promise. and we are making sure more eligible voters can participate in a great democracy. >> governor good morning. it is always good news when more people of any party are

registered to vote. participating in the process. and certainly with a big set of elections coming up in 2024. including the presidential one between the sitting president, and most people assume the former president donald trump will get the nomination there. we talk a lot, and with chris matthews about the suburbs, bucks county, places around philadelphia. counties around pittsburgh. what is your sense of how some of those persuadable voters may be feeling right now heading into the campaign? >> it is obviously early but they are the voters that help put joe biden over the top. and in 2020. and i think what they have seen over the last couple of years is the president who has delivered for them. a president who has made commitments to the commonwealth delivered on them. a president who worked in i-95 open interest 12 days. by making sure we had all the resources we need. let me tell you something. a whole lot of folks in bucks county and 95 every single day

to and from center city, philadelphia. so i think he has a strong track record he will go out and make the case and i will be right there making the case with him. >> governor shapiro, jonathan, great to see you this morning. as you well know we maybe just be a couple weeks from a federal government shutdown. if no deal can be reached in the congress. walk us through the trickle down effect where that to happen. what would the impact be on a state like yours? >> i am hopeful they would be able to find a deal. and i am no stranger to bringing both sides together. i am the only governor in the nation with a full-time divided legislature. democrats lead the house, republicans lead the senate. so i know how challenging it is to bring both parties together. we successfully have done that here in the commonwealth. i am hopeful that washington will get its act together and do the same. the house, unfortunately, is being held hostage by some real extremist and i'm hopeful that their hot voices will be silenced, and kevin mccarthy

will maybe grown a spine at some port and be able to leave the house forward. if they failed to meet the obligations to the states, it will be really devastating for us. it will mean folks who rely on federal government for all kinds of services from mental health to children who need extra support to public safety that those things won't be funded. it will put an incredible burden on the states. perhaps not in the first few days but as time goes on it will really make it difficult for states to be able to do the work that we need to do. fortunately here in the commonwealth in pennsylvania we are in strong financial shape. we will be able to weather the storm a little longer than other states. but the bottom line here is the extremists in the house need to moderate and recognize that they are there to serve the good people of this nation. get their acts together and stop pursuing an extreme extender and just do their darn jobs. >> governor shapiro, conspiracy

theories across the nation have seized on certain policy examples in pennsylvania, of voter fraud that had been disproven. and there has never been any validity to it, but can you talk about that automatic voter registration is a first step in creating a process that voters can trust? >> luckily us, i am no stranger to those conspiracy theories, i went to court more than 40 times as attorney general to be back that conspiracy theorists in the 2020 election. who will try to thwart the people of pennsylvania. by at least one every single time. and we protected the will of the people. automatic voter registration is a streamlined, safe, and secure way to make sure that only eligible voters get to rticipate in our process. consider this, when you go to the dmv, you have to provide all sorts of personal information in order to get a drivers license. and it is the same information you need to be able to provide

in order to register to vote. so it just makes sense, it is common sense, to use that platform to be able to engage folks who are eligible to vote to register them. we know that it is a safe, and secure way to do it. and we also believe that it is going to increase voter participation. and when you increase voter participation, elise, you strengthen our democracy. >> governor, kathy kay here, i came up with you and philadelphia just a few days after the supreme court overturned weighed. and abortion really, absolutely, you are quite right, it was very hot. abortion dominated your campaign. i am just wondering today, when you look at pennsylvania, or perhaps with the message to what is happening in virginia this fall. how much do you think abortion is still going to be a driving issue in those key areas of the state that will determine, that will help to determine, whether joe biden or potentially donald trump is the next president of the united states? states?

>> i think it was obviously a central issue of my campaign, and it remains on peoples minds. because, here in pennsylvania we are seeing the effects of extremists who go ahead and ban abortion in their states. we've seen, for example, an influx of women from west virginia coming to our kleenex in pittsburgh to receive reproductive health care. to have an abortion. it is critically important that we protect that in the commonwealth. and i think the more extreme the states go, and try to rip away the freedoms of women across this country, the more people focus on the need to protect that. here in the commonwealth of pennsylvania and another state certainly. i am always gonna stand on the side of protecting real freedom. to protect a woman's right to choose and i think more and more voters are tuned into that issue. and i know i am certainly tuned into making sure that we are protected. it is one of the reasons why i made a commitment during my campaign that i would protect

the full range of reproductive health care for women in pennsylvania. we have done that. just a couple months ago i ended the contract with the so-called, crisis pregnancy centers, to make sure now that when women go to a clinic, they get an honest and full range of health care options available to them when they are pregnant. i think that we need to expand freedom in this country. not restrict it, and folks like desantis and others, there are out there every day talking about freedom. but actually what their policies do, what their plans, who is to try to restrict freedom. here in pennsylvania, we love our freedom and we are going to continue to protect it. >> coming up, treasury secretary, janet yellen is standing by. she is going to weigh in on the threat of a government shutdown, and much more! and much more! ly begins to change, causing a lack of sharpness, or even trouble with recall. thankfully, the breakthrough in prevagen helps your brain and actually improves memory. the secret is an ingredient originally discovered...

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the potential impacts of a shutdown and more. is u.s. treasury secretary, janet yellen. secretary yellen thanks so much for being with us this morning. let's start with a potential shutdown. we are by my math, 11 days away from the deadline of september 30th. a week from saturday, to get a new budget through and to keep the government from shutting down. i think a lot of people talk about this in political terms, with brinkmanship, and all the rest. but where you sit and treasury. what would a government shutdown mean to the economy? >> there is absolutely no reason why we should have a government shutdown. democrats in both the house, and the senate, and republicans

in the senate are ready to pass appropriations bills or a continuing resolution to keep the government open, and operating for the american people. speaker mccarthy needs to find a way to do his job which is to pass a continuing resolution or bills. so there is no reason. we have got a good, strong economy. it has a lot of momentum. inflation is coming down, the labor market remains very strong and we really do not need a shot to the economy, in a form of a slowdown. there is no reason for that at all. >> typically, maybe it would come up to at the 11th hour, but there is a deals struck to avoid a shutdown. if that doesn't happen here. to the internal politics in the republican party. what happens to the economy? what would you say from treasury? >> we have not tried to estimate the impact of a

shutdown. it would depend importantly on how long it lasts. but, again, there really is no good reason why there should be a shutdown with the debt ceiling when it was raised in agreement was struck about, that would serve to lower the deficit by about a trillion dollars over the next decade and we should just adhere to the bipartisan agreement that was struck. >> okay, madam secretary, from page of the wall street journal, talking about rising oil prices posing a risk to an economic soft landing. oil's prices, inflation, coming down to use your words. not down, but coming down in a hot economy. what do you say to the wall street journal's concerns that a soft landing might be at risk? >> well i think we are really

on a good path towards a soft landing and not over the last year, if you go back to last summer, when oil prices beat, gas prices are down, the dollar 20 a gallon, but it is true that oil prices have risen recently, gas prices are up somewhat. that is not desirable. i think it reflects, in part, saudi arabia's decision to continue oil supply cuts that it put into effect earlier. and of course the ending of the pandemic and china, even though china's growth is slower than expected, has raised demand for oil. so ill prices are up somewhat. my hope is, and i think what you see built into market expectations is that they will stabilize or move down overtime and that is my hope and

expectation. >> so madam secretary, of course we're on the sidelines of the nations general assembly right now you just touched upon a few international concerns. but as you survey the globe here and speak to your contemporaries in other nations, give us your assessment of where the global economy stands right now. most importantly, are there any flash points or warning signs you see around the globe could eventually be trouble for here in the united states. >> actually, the global economy is proving more resilient than was expected by major organizations like the imf, the forecast with a very slow global growth. germany technically is and recession. it is had several quarters of negative growth, but overall, europe is holding up better in spite of big increases, surges and energy prices, and we're seeing tight monetary policy to

bring down inflation and many developed countries, but the united states is enjoying slower growth them during the recovery phase, but remarkable job creation, strong consumer spending, and that even with inflation coming down i think we are on a path towards what you might call a soft landing. now china, china has both short run and long run issues and its economy. it is recovery from the pandemic. the pandemic has been less robust than was expected, and of course it's property sector is suffering from a decline and home prices and over in indebtedness of many developers that really pose some significant financial threats in the longer term negative

population growth, slowing productivity growth. so policymakers in china face some challenges. they do have some policy space to be able to address some of this, and that is my hope that they will do so effectively. >> stay with us, morning joe: weekend continues after a short break. break. whenever you're hungry, there's a deal on the subway app. buy one footlong, get one 50% off in the subway app today. now that's a deal worth celebrating. man, what are you doing?! get it before it's gone on the subway app.

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and writer -- whose include stories about her struggles with anxiety and depression and her comedy routine and she joins us now. she delves further into her mental health journey in her new book entitled unreliable narrator. me, myself, and impostor syndrome. and aparna joins us now. it's great to see, thank you for being on. >> think you for having me. >> i love that clip. you sound like every young person out there because there's so much to be anxious about and it's so invalidating to tell people to calm down. so thank you for that. >> of course. it is my pleasure to be scared constantly. >> all the time. but that is something that we're dealing with as a reality with young people today and we talk about the mental health challenges that they're facing, but you so rightly point out that they're also facing a very

harsh reality. so tell us about unreliable narrator. >> yes, so this is a book of essays i wrote. it's kind of about my struggles with self-doubt and kind of a lifetime of feeling maybe like a outsider, that i don't know quite where i fit in. i'm a standup comedian and i think sometimes that catches people off-guard as someone who is more shy and softspoken and introverted. and i think i just spin it lifetime kind of taking people by surprise with what is going on inside my head and just letting it bear and being pretty open about even the darker parts of, yeah, what's going on inside my brain. >> you're right about imposture syndrome, which is something we talk about a lot in the know your value community. tell us how you suffer from it and how you address it in the book. >> yeah, imposture syndrome for me, i can't really remember a time when i didn't feel like maybe everyone else was operating from a guidebook that

i was never given access to. i'm still open to receiving it if anybody wants to send it to me, but i think for me impostor syndrome is something that you don't necessarily only experience early on when you are an experience in a career, it's sometimes just this persistent feeling that you don't deserve the opportunities that you get. and i found that the more success i had as a comedian, actually the worst my impostor syndrome got. i felt like once the expectation for -- i did really feel like i knew what i was doing or that i deserve to be there. and so the book is kind of my expiration of just why it seemed to come up in so many areas of my life, whether that was personally or professionally. yeah, and i think i wanted to write a book about self doubt to explore why i had it and maybe cure it, but i would say that this actually nothing worse for yourself than trying to write a book about it because you just constantly

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zelenskyy returned to washington yesterday to shore up support for his nation's defense. on capitol hill, he was greeted by house minority leader akeem jeffries and others. in the morning, zelenskyy attended private meetings with lawmakers and reportedly assured them of ukraine's solid war plan. house speaker kevin mccarthy praised zelenskyy's candor in those meetings, but chose not to greet zelenskyy when he arrived, and also, declined zelenskyy's request for a joint session of congress. in the afternoon, so lewinsky and ukraine's first lady arrived at the white house to meet with president biden and first lady doctor joe biden there. he announced an additional 300 and $25 million in aid to ukraine. willie? >> meanwhile, poland no longer is sending weapons to ukraine as a trade dispute over grain escorts escalates. the polish prime minister sa wednesday that mueller saw when

the longer arm kyiv. instead, focus on rebuilding its own weapon stocks. a government spokesman clarify that poland is now only supplying ukraine with already promised weapons. poland has been one of ukraine's most ardent supporters of course since russia began its invasion and has been home to nearly 2 million ukrainian refugees. so far, warsaw has provided kyiv with more than three billion dollars in military aid. and so guys, it's kind of a complicated back story, in which i could probably explain it to us better, about the grain deal. the black sea grain deal, the frustrating from poland that is been simmering, and the president zelenskyy in his week -- speech this week at the u.n. taking availed shot at poland and other countries and eastern europe for stepping back from their support. pullen says yes, they do reserve the right to resume those weapons shipments, but for now, they are pulling them back. >> yeah, you know richard, there's an election in poland may couple of weeks. it's going to be heated, heated. just a critical election for

the direction of poland's democracy. that said, zelenskyy could've picked a better time to start criticizing people in eastern europe. i know when we were given 48 billion dollars, i remember one time saying on the show, you know what, just saying thank you. just saying thank you might be a good start. understand what is going through, but you look at the history, you look at what winston churchill did with fdr, how he constantly worked him. constantly lobbied him. constantly played him, constantly, it was all over him, and keeping fdr in the game. it meant the survival. i would say, zelenskyy time and again and so it's a lot of allies that are giving him billions of dollars, and the polls finally said enough. i think again, the polls will come back, but if we all remember, the beginning stages of the war, poland literally threw open its door to millions and millions and millions of

ukrainian refugees and nobody was more open, nobody was more supportive. and so yeah, this is a really bad development. >> that development, but poland will continue to move the arms from other places. but you are, right it's about the elections coming up. the green coming from ukraine, polish farmers unhappy with it. but joe, i think there's a larger story around here. there's a bit of war fatigue that we are seeing in poland. refugee fatigue. you're seeing it in washington. we are seeing that the counter offensive, quote unquote, is not going to deliver the liberation of territory anytime soon, if ever. there is a gap increasingly between the war in ukraine and what's happening on the battlefield and the patience of other places. the war is losing its newness. and i think we are coming to some sort of a reckoning down the road where ukraine has goals of getting all of its territory back, economic reparations, were crimes and accountability and people don't see it. and so the question is, i mean

his other political issues here in the nine states. they are in poland. and i think what is happening is this issue now has to compete with others. the moment where this was the only issue on the agenda has faded. mr. zelenskyy has to adapt to that, and we're seeing it in poland and we're seeing in the united states. politics are beginning to reassert themselves. >> and, by the way, just quick side note, we are going to continue with this, but we are going to be talking in a little bit about a new cnn university of new hampshire poll with joe biden and donald trump. and what i suspect we are going to be seeing moving forward right now, things are tight, you're going to be seen in swing states like new hampshire a separation, even between the national polls right now in this latest poll. joe biden is at 52%. donald trump i believe is down at 40. we will be following that, but it's not really, again, it's not surprising to me. i know there's a lot of bed-wetting, a lot of people screaming, a lot of people screeching, a lot of people

crying. but please, again somebody tell me, who did not vote for donald trump in 2020 in the suburbs of atlanta and philadelphia, in new hampshire, and detroit. the suburbs of any of these places that are going to run back to it now after january the six. >> they're going to be inspired by him. >> after all of these things. so we will be talking about that in a little bit. again, joe biden opening up a pretty sizable lead against donald trump. it is very early, but i think you are going to be seeing more of this as we move forward. >> back to the other polls. >> now we will bring in former supreme allied commander of nato, fertile for star general james fetus, he's a chief international analyst from nbc news. from new hampshire polls to prusiensky polls, it's so admiral this is not good news for the ukrainians. and with their future on the line, you think that they would be working a little bit more diligently to clean things up

with poland and its leaders. what is going on here? >> hundred percent, right, and let's face the fact that joe biden has been pretty distracted with the united nations. zelenskyy has been 100% focus on coming here. i would guarantee job one on his to do list when he gets back to ukraine is going to be poland. and also the united states needs in will be leaning in to try to bring this back together. we have a a step format in the zone in warsaw. that would be mark prusiensky. mika. and so i think there's going to be a concerned effort in the west, it won't just be washington and lee. and i think you are going to see nato to everything it can to shore up this crack. look, it's a pretty good example of the politics are local, and that is what is happening as richard said, as you said joe.

election coming up. the polls get through that and hopefully that will combine with the efforts i just described to get this in the right direction. 0.2, and it's kind of stepped back, let's remember who is at fault here. this is russia that has created the situation by blockading the black sea, stopping the normal flow of these massive grain shipments which ought to be going to north africa, the middle east, the levant. putin has weaponized food and as a side benefit of that, that gray now is flowing to the east. it is cheaper. it moves across the land. that is what is driving the discontent in poland. and so the problem, as usual, reverts back to putin, and a good way to think about how to help solve this would be to break this blockade, get the grain shipments moving normally,

and i will close with this. nato can do that. we have the capability to escort green shipments in and out. we have the capability to clear minds. there's some thinking that might be mines in the water. big picture solution here is to break this blockade. >> so richard, let's talk about politics in poland, because i really have a lot of questions as to why they would do this, and i don't think it's necessarily fair to blame it on the ukrainians, who are in a terrible situation right now. poland showed themselves, showed the country to be a leader in the world in supporting ukrainians. away as -- described it, it's unprecedented that no country would do, definitely not united states of america. they brought in millions of refugees at the drop of a hat and created stations across the border where they could process them and send them to different parts of poland. it was historic. >> it literally opened their

doors to -- >> their homes. and they told the story of why they could make this unprecedented action. because of this shared history. because of their bond in that way. they worked alongside the u.s. military, the 82nd airborne. more forces came and. poland becoming central on this map, redefining nato in the world, and now they are pulling back or threatening to pull back. it seems small, and i wonder what the politics are that are involved with this in poland, inside poland? >> mika, it is small, but i also think it's temporary. you have the elections next month. poland, like a lot of other countries in europe, like us, the far-right is going up in the government coalition is worried going into the elections. farmers are unhappy about the cheap grain from ukraine, and again, they're worried about the polls in poland, i.e. the far-right is going up. and so this is an issue. a little bit of war fatigue, a little bit is happening against

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not coincidences, joe. i mean donald trump is calling the shots across the board. he wants to shut, he thinks he can shut down his indictments and the work of the special counsel, and his department justice in the federal courts by getting matt gaetz and marjorie taylor greene and three other members of the maga caucus to derail the house and shut down the government of united states. he is badly mistaken because the attorney general jack smith, the prosecutors are funded by it continuing indefinite appropriation to the department of justice, and they are exempted because the attorney generals of a presidential appointee, and the federal courts are open for business for criminal trials because they relate to the protection of life, property, and public safety. and so he is going to shut down all the rest of the u.s. government in order to blockade his prosecutions, but it's not

even going to work. in marjorie taylor greene and matt gaetz, the wants to run for governor of florida according to all of the republicans, i serve, with should figure out right now that they are just going to in their political careers but shutting down the government for no reason. they should tell donald trump that his plan is not going to work. >> congressman, it is jim. how are you? i want to ask you how you think this ends. i mean this is certainly not on the responsibility of democrats in the house, and the senate has passed so many bills, but do you think that this ends with a bill that democrats could support or how do we get to the other side of this? >> well you know jim, it really ended in may when we had a agreement to prevent just this impasse. and the agreement was signed off by speaker mccarthy, by the democrats, and so we perceive that some of the right-wing extremists would try to do this. so we just need to stick to the agreement. but now of course mccarthy does

not want to stick to the agreement because if he gets democratic votes in order to pass it, then the entire maga caucus says that if he does anything with democratic votes they are going to overthrow him. when we got back to congress at the beginning of this week, it's kind of hard to believe it was just four days ago. they have three objectives. one, shut down the government of united states. two, impeach joe biden, and three, overthrow mccarthy. right now maga is moving down each of those tracks, and i would at least hope that matt gaetz and marjorie taylor greene in a handful of others would understand that they are not going to be able to shut down the prosecutions and the trials of donald trump by doing this. it will not work. they are fully appropriated by continuing indefinite appropriations or multi year appropriations or no year appropriations. donald trump believes it. he tweeted out yesterday. he tweeted that this would shut down his investigations in the

prosecutions. it will not work. someone needs to get that through that brain of his. >> yeah, not going to happen, and he wants to keep talking about it, and others just want to raise money off of it when they know that they are scamming their supporters. know ranking member of the houe oversight committee, congressman jamie raskin. thank you so much. >> coming up. the planet just had the hottest august ever, prompting a dire warning from the u.n. secretary general. >> just a caveat here. the hottest summer ever, the hottest august ever, the hottest july ever, and the hottest june ever. >> ever! >> do we see a trend there, republicans? >> maybe. we will talk with that, with u.s. special presidential envoy for climate john kerry straight ahead on morning joe.

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the climate solutions, and our task is urgent. humanity as open the gates of hell, but the future is not fixed. it is for leaders like you to write it. >> the u.n. secretary general delivering a stern message to world leaders during a climate change summit in new york city this week. it comes just as we are learning more about just how hot the last few months have been historically. according to the national oceanic and atmospheric administration, june july and august where the warmest, hottest those months have ever been globally since the group was founded 174 years ago. in the united states, this august was the ninth warmest on record, but the hottest ever for florida, mississippi, and louisiana. last month, surface see temperatures had a record high for the fifth month in a row. >> i will tell you that, and that is bad news.

especially in hurricane season, but it's bad beat news you around. special presidential envoy for climate, former secretary of state john kerry. i want to talk about all of that in a minute, but i have a couple of quick questions for you. we were talking before you came on the air when we were over in normandy, 75th anniversary of d-day, and walking through that cemetery of those fallen american soldiers, it was so extraordinarily moving. i cannot help but think back to all of this walking through there, back in 2019 and contrast that with the speaker of the house who is afraid to even be seen in public with a freedom flatter like is a lewinsky. >> it's dramatic, joe, and it is sad. i think that everybody understands that president biden is really doing a remarkable job of bringing nato together, and we really need all of us as americans to focus,

and obviously we see the changes to democracy, but most importantly, the implications of ukraine. there are downstream impacts that we did not do what we are doing today. and the stakes in terms of foreign policy, in terms of relationships, america's word, our commitment to freedom. the meaning of freedom, everything is on the line and ukraine. you cannot allow a a legal, grotesque criminal crossing of international border and attacking a country simply to change the border and take part of the country. that is what we stood up against all of world war ii and all of the memorials around washington in the world and to the heroism of that period of time. we need to reflect on that. >> you know, we just showed a poll out of new hampshire that shows joe biden ahead by a

pretty good chunk right now. it's early, as you know. you've done this. you know all of this more than any of us do, but jim brought up the fact that you know new hampshire. i'm curious about your thoughts about the truth. actually staying a step ahead and new hampshire from say larger states like florida or texas or california where you are up 32nd ads, and that's what people see. but in new hampshire, it is neighbor to neighbor. it's church member to church member. >> well i'm not, as you know, i'm not in politics. >> i know, i just wanna talk about the process we're meaty chinese religious cult websites made full people and a lot of places but in new hampshire the truth actually has a running start, doesn't? it >> as a generic comment, i love being new hampshire, i love being in iowa. the relationship that i've built in those places last today and i still hear from the mayor of manchester and it is incredibly personal.

it's wonderful. it's what separates the united from every other country in terms of our politics. it really is personal. you meet in the halls, you step into when the morning answering questions, hopefully to every question is asked, and it is a great part of the process. and it surprises. and it's a real affirmation of some of the basics of politics, and we will see what happens but i think honestly coming back to where we are here, if i may, -- >> we don't want to have you on track. >> i'm so comfortable. it's the most purposeful division. nothing new on morning joe. >> we're back to talking about the giants game, so you better move fast. >> but this is serious. what president biden has been doing with respect to climate is quite remarkable. i mean, if you look at the inflation reduction act, and i'm not here just to sort of be advertising or anything.

>> but it was a massive investment. it was a historic investment. >> he has set america up to lead and our economic future and ways that people haven't yet even fully tapped into. you, know it's really interesting, because the transformation that we are going through economically is genuinely the largest economic transition since the industrial revolution, and we are going to see unbelievable amounts of new jobs created. right, now there is a geothermal energy company where 60% of the employees of that company, which is fast growing, come out of oil and gas industry. and so you are seeing the transformation already taking place. and the international energy agency just told us that we are about to reach a terminal downward trend and the demand for fossil fuel because of the amount of electric vehicles that are out there and the amount of renewable energy that is being deployed. it's a that is the future, joe. it's absolutely cooked in now.

ceos, companies all around the world. we have 85 major corporations of america that have joined something that president biden started called the first movers coalition, and they are buying willingly paying a green premium. they're buying green products in order to send a message to the marketplace, a demand signal that you can have green steel. you can have karina cement. that is a transformation that is taking place. >> and mike, you get some of the top producers in the world talking to them privately and they will tell, you we may have 20, 25 more years of oil under the ground. we have got to race towards alternative energy. >> how are we doing that? >> and the race is on. >> and the ceo in america, a global company knows reality. recognizes reality, recognizes what is coming down the road. but we are going to be partners. my question to you is that you just recently returned from beijing. where is shiner and off this

are they going to be with us, with the world, or are they going to be any help at all or a hindrance? >> obviously mike, we really hope that we're going to be able to get somewhere with china of course the next months. months we have been meeting, we have been having discussions. i'm hopeful. we had meetings here in new york. we will be meeting in the next weeks, but we don't know the answer that completely, but we do know that china right now is outbuilding everybody and renewable energy and they are deploying that energy at home. and literally, china is now deploying and manufacturing more than the rest of the world put together. and so china has made a decision. they had 52 degrees centigrade last summer. they've had people dying because of the floods in china. and so our hope is that we can de-politicize this issue at least. it is a universal threat. we all need to be engaged in this. we need china, and we hope we

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anxiety, and then of course there is a third group, perhaps the biggest, who had started to worry that the whole political wrangle would never come to a end. i understand all of those feelings, and our job as the government, my job is to bring this country together now and take us home. the most important thing to say tonight is that this is not a end but a beginning. this is the moment when the dawn breaks and the curtain goes up on a new act of our great national drama. >> which led to liz truss. >> that is the prime minister boris johnson announcing the united kingdom's official exit from the european union. brexit was a contentious issue that was central to johnson's when to become the uk's leader in 2019. some in his own party objected to completely pulling out of the trade deal, which prompted johnson to expel them. our next guest was one of those

21 members of parliament who was ousted for voting against johnson's brexit deal. now all of these years later he is reflecting on how england's conservative party has changed, and the similarities he is seeing here in the u.s.. joining us now former member of the british parliament and senior adviser of give directly, rory stewart. he's also the author of the new book entitled how not to be a politician, a memoir. i want to know the answer to that. >> exactly! we want to know the answer on the show, but first let's start about what you grappled with with eight once conservative party that turned to hard right populist anti immigrant, as you say here, that despite rampant cynicism, and sheer incompetence. what is the cure for all of that? >> i think the real cure is that the center of the more moderate people need to sort their act out.

i hate, populist deeply. i resigned from parliament. i lost my seat because of it, but when i reflect on it, i think it's not just the fault of the populace like boris johnson, it's the fault of us. we were not communicating well enough. we weren't leaving the country well enough, and we created the opportunity for the populace to come back, and this is true in the united states, it's true in britain, and it's true across europe. it's terrifying, it has to do from anything from the economy, social media, but i think that this is the big challenge is the next decade. >> tell me. why is it that mainstream republicans, what i used to call mainstream republicans, independents and democrats and united states as well as tories, and some tories and some members of the labour party, why do we have such a hard time dealing with the fire hood of falsehoods, whether they are coming from boris johnson's

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very clear, bold, emotionally clear new message about what to take people in the future rather than defend the pass. >> so you can make a case, a pretty strong case that brexit altered both the political and financial landscape of europe and the globe, actually, and it began, and you will bear this out during your answer. david cameron as prime minister. a sort of dashing, youngest figure. very glib, very articulate. and basically just threw it out there, voted up or down, we have confidence in you. did he do it out of indifference, ignorance? why did he do it that way? >> i think he did it out of immense complacency. part of it has to do with the competition, which is my tenure's journey through all of this. yes, it's about how bad the populists were, but it's also about how complacent the people who proceeded them were. david cameron basically grew up

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september 30th. that is when the emergency childcare funding that congress allocated during the pandemic which included 24 billion dollars in childcare stabilization grants is set to expire. here to discuss is the editor affords women, and msnbc kareem tribute are and vice chair of the forbes know your value 50/50 summit, whom aberdeen. maggie, your team's been covering this extensively at forbes within. talk about the ramifications for families, childcare facilities and the broader economy. >> mika, the ramifications could be devastating here. there are an estimated 70,000 childcare facilities that could close as a result of this lost funding. more than 3 million children could lose their spots and childcare. it's worth noting that even if all those facilities don't close, there will be kids who lose their spots because

tuition will go up because of the lost funding. it will become more unaffordable. meanwhile, the cost appearances nine billion dollars in lost earnings from reduced working hours or leaving the workforce entirely. the cost to employers and state economies is ten billion dollars because of disruptions to the workforce. i actually spoke with the founder of girls who code and moms first about this issue. she advocates for better policies for parents and says her phone is ringing off the hook from ceos who are deeply worried about this issue. she is encouraging all business leaders to use their platform to advocate for more support for childcare because it is the key to unlocking american innovation. the fully participating workforce. >> and whom, and i'm thinking about the moms who are gonna be impacted here. many who returned to the workforce in record numbers since the pandemic. how are they going to get childcare? and how concerned are you about this sort of threatening

women's recent workforce gains? >> to maggie's, point it is not just devastating for women but devastating to their families, to childcare providers. and ultimately, to our economy. when you think about this investment at that the federal government made two years ago, this emergency spending, this 24 billion dollars that you just referenced, at the time it was an experiment in that it's the largest investment the federal government has made in u.s. history that went specifically towards childcare. fast forward two years later, what was the impact? you have 77 point -- percent of women between the ages of 25 to 54 who were working or looking for work. 76% of women of working age we're working as of this june, you have 10% i'm -- sorry, the workplacegender gap has shrunk to ten and a half percent as of august, which is

a record low, and, finally when you think about this number, 77% of women under the age of five were employed when -- if you are gonna take all of that away at a time when costs are going, up not, down families are paying more for childcare than they are for their mortgage. these are ramifications that we are not standing at a, cliff or about to get pushed off in a week. and congress has to act very rapidly or we're going to be in the midst of a crisis that we've already had going on and it will only get worse. >> we will be following that, whom, a keep us posted. before we go, maggie. i want to switch gears. we have some exciting news about forbes and know your values upcoming 50 over 50 global lists. you remember, we went global the minute our first list went out in the u.s. because of the tremendous success.

tell our viewers the news. >> i'm thrilled to announce that nominations for the third annual 50 over 50 asia and 50 over officially middle east is open. thanks to read or demand, people want to submit names, so we have the ability to do that now. we are looking for women over the age of 50 who are creating the greatest professional impact in asia, europe, in the middle east, and africa. our biggest rule, your birthday to have to end in 1972 earlier. if you're burning 73 or later your too young. we are as ever looking across every sector for founders, ceos, scientific visionaries. culture creators. so if that describes you or someone you admire, please go to forbes.com to nominate them today. you have until december 10th to do so. >> i love these lists because they flip the script on every stereotype. we are finding so many women in

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legendary texas journalist, mali islands, strong texas women like ivan's and the colorful characters that live in the lone star state and who

work in the state government are the subject of a new novel called mr. texas. which takes a satirical look into the world of texas politics. and boy, do we need to laugh today. joining us is the book's author, pulitzer prize-winning writer lawrence right. lawrence, this took like 25 years because mr. texas, before mr. texas became a novel, it was a tv series concept. broadway musical concept. a movie script. and now it's a novel. tell us about that process but also the historical figures, the political figures who inspired mr. texas. >> it started in an richards era. molly was still a figure in austin and i had the idea that the characters that inhabit our political world in texas, whatever you think of, them they are larger than life. and oftentimes, there's a

possibility problem because they're so crazy that to try to satirized them is hard to do sometimes. i decided i would select the house of representatives, it's my favorite political body. and i went to see -- at that time, it was the speaker of the house, it was pete lanny, a democrat. and the lieutenant governor was bob bullock, also a democrat. and george bush became the governor after an. and so i went in to talk to the speaker and i said, you, know i had this idea of writing a movie or a television series. he said, it's been the dream of my life to have a television series set in the house of representatives. i said, here i am. it's gone a long way since then. it has wound up as a novel. >> you see, we talk about some of the real life characters. i'm just remembering one you mentioned. mike martin? can you tell the story of mike martin. part of the inspiration?

>> he's a representative from longview, texas. he was worried about his reelection chances so he had his cousin shoot him. so he got the sympathy vote. he said he was shot by the mafia. which we don't have much of in texas. and then the texas rangers tracked him down and he was hiding in his mother stereo cabinet. molly ivan said he always wanted to be the speaker. >> did he win reelection? to get? work >> no, it didn't work. >> so let's talk about the protagonist in the novel, sonny lam, who is he and how much of all these real life characters are built into him? >> there's a bit of mr. smith goes to washington. but this is sonny lam, he's coming to austin. he's a renter in far west texas, near marfa. he has a dream. he wants to be somebody. he also has this bill that he's hoping to pass, desalination. we have a salty aquifer. it's a very direct written part of the state.

he is recruited by a lobbyist who has other plans for him. the lobbyist sees him as his pet vote. and there's a clash between these two entities, it becomes the education of sonny lam about the real world of politics. >> you know, lawrence, all of this is in front of your eyes for these years living in texas. i'm thinking of things that i've seen in state legislators like in massachusetts, the characters, that stories, how long did it take you to finally assemble this as a novel? here's? 20 years? 25 years? >> no, it didn't take that long. honestly, i've been working on this project for a long time. when i started, sonny was a democrat because there were democrats in the texas back then. but it's had these different incarnations. it started as a movie script, then it became a play. we had a couple productions of that. then broadway producer came

down and said, it could be a musical. so i started writing music. then she changed her mind, said it should be a television series. so i sold a pilot hbo. and then i called my agent during the pandemic and i said, what should i do? puck >> he set podcast. so i thought wait a minute, i can write a novel. i know i can get that done. but all the long tale that i'm describing, it gave me more weapons to use in a novel. >> and that does it for. us we are back on monday morning at six a.m. eastern, brighton early. have a great weekend. ve a great weekend walking the line. president biden prepares to join striking auto workers as the uaw walkout spreads to more states and more plants. michigan ng