tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC September 23, 2023 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
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special counsel's over and over again, frequently, again, three in the last ten months, i think it implicit just that the department of justice can't do difficult and complex and sensitive work. you can't trust the career men and women at the department of justice to do the very thing they do extraordinarily well, and every corner of the country. so, i get that attorney general has to make tough decisions. i get that i'm not going to agree with all of them. i don't believe that he is acting nefariously. again, i think he is highly principled, but when you appoint republicans to investigate democrats, or refer sully, democrats to appoint to investigate republicans, that is quintessentially a political decision. so, you front if there is a solitary reason for it, they, it is still a political decision, and that is what concerns me. >> check rosenberg, as always, thank you sir, we appreciate you. all right, everybody, we've got a lot more coming up. you are watching msnbc, our
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second hour starts right now. hi everybody, good to see you. i'm yasmin vossoughian, if you're just joining us, welcome. if you're sticking with, us we're thankful for that. we've got breaking news out of capitol hill that we just heard from republican representatives reporting a new potential measure to avert a shutdown. even as kevin mccarthy expressed optimism, not all of this gop colleagues agree with. >> i've recommended to the speaker, and our conference, that we work across the aisle, and get a bipartisan deal. >> we are ready to work together. the american people expect us to work together. that window is closing if mccarthy continues to give in. to the extreme, chaos wing of his caucus. >> the house speaker appears unable to -- i'm going to talk to texas congressman greg cesar about
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that situation in the house. i'm also going to ask him about the border crisis in his home state, as the homeland security's secretary visits the area. plus, signs of hope on two strike fronts. the uaw reports movement from one of the big three automakers, while striking a hollywood writers might be very close to a breakthrough. we are live on those stories. we are also following the developing weather situation, as millions deal with the impact of tropical storm ophelia, all that. ukrainian president zelenskyy going to washington and getting the cold shoulder and worse from some republicans on capitol hill. including a major snob, involving a joint address to congress. i'm going to get that reaction ahead as well. we want to start though on capitol hill. with new developments when it comes to negotiations over an impending possible government shutdown. and how in fact republicans plan on averting a government shutdown. with that, i want to go straight to julie tsirkin sing live with us on capitol hill.
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julie, talk to us. i know we've been hearing of some new plans now in place to avert the shutdown. as we just heard from three members of congress there. still trying to get this stopgap measure to through. talk us through some of the details of this thing. >> yeah, so what those republicans, these are speaker mccarthy's allies, to be clear, what they were talking about there is on a conference call that was just held with all republican members, this is really the first time they had an opportunity to come together and talk since the house was out on thursday. that they were floating new terms for short term government funding bill. garrett graves, one of the congressman in that little gaggle that they held had said that they are somewhere between a two weeks yard to a 45-day cr, to a two month cer. really, seven days away from a shut down. they're still not even clear on how long they will fund the government for temporarily, how much they will spend. they really are so far apart on these issues. funny enough, interestingly enough, just as those three republican lawmakers were
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talking about the progress they made, the unified the congress is in a path moving forward. one of the holdouts, montana congressman, matt rosendale, walked up behind him, i followed him along with other reporters. he said he will never, no matter what the circumstance, support a cr, sure term government funding bill to keep the government open, that they are going to pass because they just don't have time for the alternative seven days away. take a listen to my interaction with speaker mccarthy earlier when i asked him if the pressure that former president trump is putting to get these holdouts to keep strong and essentially shut the government down is hurting him. watch. >> look, i don't think anybody wins by government shutdown. i just don't. i don't understand the few people here who are without. -- why does the coast guard have to -- why do they have to not be paid, if somebody wants to do something. >> you heard him there reacting,
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i, mean he's been saying the same thing all along. he does sound frustrated. in fact, just now, my colleague, rebecca kaplan, who is still down there in this ongoing press conference from those republicans, from these allies, they're calling these holdouts arsonists that are lighting the house on fire. so, all of these negotiations that are going on, we still don't appear like mccarthy has the votes, or a path forward. >> so, i am seeing though some new details that mccarthy is saying are added back in. now saying the 300 million in funding for training you cranium soldiers back in the defense appropriations bill after -- i knew that ukraine was a sticking point for folks, like for instance marjorie taylor greene. so how do they plan on getting this through, when they know people are against it? >> it's a great question. it's when i asked the speaker as well. he basically explained, later on, that he's negotiating right now with every single member individually, when one member
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seems like they can get something they want, another member then turns around and demands what they want. it's this constant tug of war that mccarthy finds himself in, where he just promised too many members too many things. to your point there, that $300 million for the defense bill, that is nothing to do with the ukraine aid that president biden had requested. that is something that congress has been approving for the last several years. since russia had invaded crimea, back in 2014. this is just to train ukrainian soldiers. but you see mccarthy yesterday telling me that that is out. today, he's telling me it's back in. this is also fluid. because every single member is demanding every single different thing. again, i just want to remind our viewers, we are days away from this shut down. they still don't have a unified path forward. tomorrow and monday they will be out for the jewish holiday. so really, the next time we see them is going to be tuesday to potentially vote. >> every single member is demanding every single thing, and, yet you had three members standing up and saying they're essentially unified. julie tsirkin, thanks for
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covering capitol hill for us today. i know it can be frustrating sometimes. coming up later on this hour, i'm gonna be joined by pro aggressive caucus texas congressman, greg casar, to talk about how democrats are preparing for a potential shutdown. plus his thoughts on the migrant crisis, homeland tsai curate he mayorkas visits his state's southern border. some signs of hope in another major strike between the writers guild of america, and studio representatives, variety reporting that both sides indicate they are moving closer to a deal. 144 days after the strike began. studios are set to be eager to hammer out a resolution by early october. to salvage their 2020 moving lineup, and what's left of the current television season. i want to bring in now nbc's, liz kreutz, with more on this. liz, if you will, talk us through what you are hearing about this. how close the two sides maybe. >> yeah, hey yasmin, the fact that both sides are working into the weekend for a fourth straight day now is certainly a
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good sign. they were at the bargaining table until late last night. the fact that these have been meetings with the main studio executives, including from nbc universal, the parent company of nbc news, this also signals that they are ready to hammer through this and get this done. i would say the mood in hollywood right now is cautious optimism. i was out at a picket line yesterday here in l.a.. there was a really big turnout, trying to show a force right now. now, after nearly five months since the strike began, with no sign of progress, i was surprised how optimistic people are that this round of negotiations will actually lead to an end to the strike. here's what some people told me. >> how hopeful are you that a deal is actually going to be reached? olivier dagenais be reached? olivie >> i am pretty hopeful. we've had a few close calls, if you sit downs along the way. but this feels like the tenor is very different. the messages that are coming from the 80 p and that leadership seem more optimistic than i think i have seen in the entire strike. i am pretty hopeful.
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>> i think we have been out long enough is starting to hurt enough of them in a way they actually realized oh, we've got to figure this out, otherwise, we don't have a business. >> now, at least negotiation meetings are taking place at the sherman oakes galleria in los angeles. a deal has not been reached, but a source told nbc news they are inching closer to one, and they have been able to make some progress on some of the key issues related to getting higher royalties for streaming shows and protections around artificial intelligence. one of the main sticking points still reportedly is that writers unions, they are demanding for minimum staffing levels for shows. the studios are pushing back on that. but look, if a deal can be reached and some have said it may be that these two sides want to get this done before the she was holiday, young comports, mauro knight, some late night shows, talk shows, will likely be able to resume. but many rioters could still be out of work for months us the actors union is still on strike. the hope, though, is if the wta, the rioters unit, can get a
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deal, it could signal that the actors union might be able to get one to. a lot of people crossing their fingers right now, yasmin. >> all right, liz throats for us. we appreciate it. we mentioned, by the way, comcast in the corporation that was our parent company, nbc universal, is one of the entertainment companies represented by the alliance of motion picture and television producers. all right, a week after they walked out, united auto workers have extended their strike now to 38 parts and distribution locations across the united states. the uaw is targeting general motors and stellantis, but not for it, after president sean pains us they've made progress in negotiations with the ford automaker. president biden said he will be in michigan on tuesday to quote, drawing the picket line, with uaw workers. that will be just one day ahead of former president trump, who also says he's gonna visit the state. want to bring in nbc's jesse kirsch, who is standing by for us in pontiac, michigan. you are outside the picket line there. and a lot of times going back and forth for the folks that are standing out there and
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striking. the latest on the negotiations and where we are with progress? >> hey, yasmin. we have her talking for more than a week now throughout the detroit metro area. obviously, in other areas as well. that network of honking is potentially growing substantially now, to, because we are looking at a strike that is now stretching coast to coast from california to new york. that is an expansion, specifically, as you mentioned, against gm and stellantis, which signals the union feels better about its negotiations with ford at this point. ford says there is still work to be done. gma stellantis, in statements put out yesterday, question the motives of the union at this point, as they have expanded, the union has expanded its strike against those two companies. for people watching this at home, who have been following along with this story but they are seeing this as a labor dispute, maybe that is not something that will directly impact them, that will change soon. if you drive a gm or stellantis we go and need a repair from your dealerships, that could
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become more complicated, depending on what part. i talked to a dealership room yesterday. they said they have been stocking up on higher demand part like brake pads, but if you need something more complicated, like if you need an engine overall, that could be hard to come by, as this strike is now expanded to parts distribution centers. it will be interesting to see how this all plays out from a pr standpoint. as you mentioned, we have the current president and the former president, who are both expected to be here within a day off each other. in the days ahead. so, just a reminder, how difficult this state can be, and this union can be, when it comes to presidential politics, yasmin. >> all right, jesse kirsch for us there. appreciate it, jesse. coming up in 60 seconds, tropical storm ophelia wreaking havoc across the south mid-atlantic coast right now, as it moves inland. we'll be right back. ht back.
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news in the northeast today as tropical storm affiliate barrels up the east coast after making landfall in north carolina. ophelia has maximum sustained winds of 70 miles an hour at landfall. which is just shy of hurricane strength. forecasters warning storm surges could cause potentially life-threatening flooding. i want to bring in nbc's, aaron gilchrist, in nbc new jersey, where ophelia is headed. aaron, we have just hit high tide where you are. things do seem to be getting a little bit worse behind you, if i can see. give me a sense, the latest damage that we've been hearing where athalia has hit. and what more we should be expecting. >> you're absolutely right. high tide just happened in this area. as we've been watching the waves behind us, they've been getting bigger, they've been chopping away at the beach more and more. i just heard a big clump of sand drift away behind me here, a moment ago. we are also getting reports in the towns surrounding the one where we are in, in ocean city, about flooding.
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now they are starting to see high tide. we are getting the road flooding, we are getting some of the low lying areas that are starting to flood, and we expect that will be the case throughout the evening here as this storm continues to work its way north from north carolina, through virginia, on its way up into this area. obviously, we've been dealing with bands of rain throughout the day today. there are concerns that the coastal flooding we will see here could become more significant as the evening goes on. and this storm continues to churn. at the same time, we've seen a lot of people coming out today, sort of wanting to see what it all looks like. folks who've been here all week long, in sunny days, then suddenly you have this storm. i want you to hear a little bit about what we heard from folks today as they were on the boardwalk here in ocean city. >> this seems more like a churn or kind of event. where is it's not a lot of rain, but the wind is strong. it seems, i think beecher roshan is the main concern today. -- >> none of it was enough to keep you from coming out to the boardwalk? >> the rest of my family's back
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home. they're getting text from them, i'm sending them videos from. here they're saying i'm crazy. they understand is what i do. >> you just wanted to see? it >> i want to see it. i'm actually kind of addicted to closing the rings on my apple watch. so that drives me to. >> you had to get your steps in. >> i had to get my stepson. >> a moment of levity there, yasmin, but the reality is a lot of people who are out there still, now behind our camera there's lots of people watching. but as night falls and as the storm gets closer to this area, the center of the storm does, it's going to get more dangerous to be out here. tomorrow, we will have more wind and more rain, already the yankees game in new york has been canceled. it is coming that way as well. it's gonna be at least another day before we see any of the start to really move out. >> aaron gilchrist for us, thank you erin, appreciate you being there. still ahead everybody, the latest on the trip from secretary mayorkas to the southern border, at the biden administration faces growing pressure over the migrant crisis. plus, cold shoulder. capitol hill republicans for
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department of justice charged over 1100 defendants in connection with an attack on our capitol, correct? >> yes, that's correct. >> i'm going to stick to facts. the people who showed up on january 6th, at the nation's capital, where supporters of donald trump. they attacked the capitol to stop congress from certifying the fact that donald trump lost the election. >> so that was congressman ted lieu, democrat from california, calling out his gop colleagues and their conspiracies about january 6th. during their hearing with the attorney general garland this week. some of those very riders, congressman louis rereing, are continuing to face serious consequences. one new york man who punched an
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officer and stole a shield during a riot was sentenced to three years in prison. i want to bring in now nbc news justice -- ryan reilly, the author of sedition hunters, how january 6th broke the justice system. set for release next month. ryan, good to speak with. you bring us up to date for the latest on the many doj cases against those who participated in the january 6th riots. >> these cases are continuing to roll. and we are now basically at the halfway point of this investigation, in fact, we passed that probably in july. because the statute of limitations is five years for all of these crimes. what we know is that the universe of people who could be charged for either entering the capitol, or for assaulting law enforcement officers outside, or for engaging in property destruction outside, surpasses 3000. we are not going to get to that point in the five-year statute of limitations. but right now, we have about 1100. we did see over the summer that the pace of these arrests continued, as these cases were sort of working their way through the system. the longest sentence we've seen is more than 20 years in
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federal prison. it goes all the way down to periods of home detention or just straight probation for a number of these defendants who were more on the lower end, on the misdemeanor side. these sentences continue. ed medallion, one writer that i spoke with ben after his conviction is being sentenced on tuesday. he was someone who thought he could go to the capitol and citizens arrest nancy pelosi that day. he continued to insist that he could do so, even throughout his trial. when i spoke with him afterwards. that is now words that prosecutors, after i posted a video on twitter, are going to be using against him in court, this tuesday. these cases are continuing, and more cases continue to go in. but the sleuths have identified many of people who have not yet been arrested. >> let's take a moment, ryan, we'll have, you and talk a little bit about your work. as i mentioned, your upcoming book, congratulations. sedition hunters. and just released on nbc news.com it talks about a
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hollywood extra who actually stormed the capitol, then ended up on the fbi wanted a list. talk to us more about this story. >> it's a really fascinating one. he was known as swedish garth, that's because he was wearing a scarf that was from the small town that they're only 700 of these scarves made. he actually lost that scope of the capitol. everyone was tracking this person. how did you get this scarf? this was one of the cases where this was a mystery to the sleuths. even though the sleuths have been far head of the fbi and a lot of these cases they couldn't identify this person but they knew a lot about his background. they knew about his associates. the problem is he was going by a fake name, he was actually going as jeff. he had a romantic relationship with another rioter, a woman who was in a louis vuitton shirt as she screamed over a bullhorn and gave out her instagram handle. gina and jeff, as she knew him, had this romantic relationship after the capitol attack. but lo and behold, finally, he was charged. but now they finally unsealed these charges, the fbi is officially looking for him. he's believed to be overseas.
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he was an extra in all these movies, all these music videos. john mayer music videos. just leanne rhimes was another one. a bunch of these facial recognition picked up. really fascinating backstory for someone that could have very well been one of these conspiracies, had it gone a different way. there is now, finally, the fbi added him to the list. he's already been charged. there is a warrant out for his arrest. they are still out there looking for him. they believe he is overseas. >> and that is just a snippet of sedition hunters, how january 6th broke the justice system, set for release next month. you can check out the newly-released excerpt from ryan and his upcoming book on nbc news.com. ryan riley, thank you, ryan appreciated. coming up everybody, mixed feelings on the hill over the biden ministration's handling of the migrant crisis. texas congressman, greg casar, joins me next with his reaction. plus, his concerns about a looming government shutdown. and, gop presidential hopeful, vivek ramaswamy, campaigns in
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escalated to nearly 7000 people a day. nbc's guad venegas joins us now from texas on the front lines of the crisis at the border. i want to start with a visit from secretary today at the border. give us the latest coming out of this trip. >> yasmin, he met with the president of honduras. they discussed how to improve conditions from some of the migrants coming from honduras as well. they also talked about smugglers, that take advantage of some of these migrants. and what can be done to fight organized crime that essentially takes advantage of the migrants who want to take their way to the united states. but mayorkas also talked about the crisis in the border in general. of course we know that the great majority of the migrants who are coming to the u.s. mexico border right now are from venezuela. not from honduras. and mayorkas took the time to also ask congress for help and talk about the humanitarian crisis. here's mayorkas speaking. >> our immigration system is
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absolutely broken. a fact on which everyone believes. most recently, congress has yet to ask on our request for four billion dollars in funding and resources to address the immediate challenge. funding that is critical to our efforts for border communities. >> he talks about the media challenge. we have groups that are still arriving this morning, hundreds arriving in eagle pass. we've got tens of thousands traveling through mexico, many riding some of the trains, other paying smugglers. plus, you've got tens of thousands in central america, making their way to the border. the migrants are coming, they have no other individuals who are leaving a humanitarian crisis in different countries. that's why this is happening. that's why he's speaking for a need for resources. he also makes references to a broken immigration system. yasmin, i want to point out how the immigration system is broken.
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just point out an example. president biden just issued temporary status for nearly half 1 million venezuelans that entered the country before july. some of them entering illegally, but did not require asylum. essentially a venezuelan that entered the country from before july can now apply for -- temporary protection status. meanwhile we have 18, 19 million, that have lived, no one knows the real number, but we expected to be more than 18 million people that live in the united states undocumented. people have been here for decades, paychecks, is own homes in different states, many in california, texas, even in florida who are stuck in limbo, we've been here, but there is no way for them to get a work permit. that's where you see these discrepancies with undocumented individuals in the united states. both those that enter the country, and also that have been there are individuals who are we're looking for ways to work, yasmin. >> guad venegas for us, thank you guad.
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i want to bring you now texas congressman, greg casar, who represents parts of austin and san antonio to talk more about this. you've got to heard guad eloquently deal out the problem we're dealing with there when it comes to the crisis on the ground at the southern border. i want to talk specifically about what you think is the most dire thing right now that needs to be addressed, as we are watching this humanitarian crisis unfold. >> we obviously need to address the immediate issues, and make sure that people can be connected to their families, process and illegal trade and orderly way. we have to stop spending billions of dollars like governor greg abbott is, on political stunts. and dangerous tactics like this razor wire on the border, or the buoys that have left children dead, these last few days. it's been a three year old boy, just found drowned in the river. recently, an eight-year-old girl, dead on the border. that is just unacceptable. this is a land of immigrants. we need to be able to make sure
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people are processed in a legal, orderly, and safe way. but also, the american people know, and we all know, those of us that talk with folks coming across the border, the people often are being displaced from their home countries. right now, especially in venezuela. a lot of that is of course their own government's decisions, a part of it is being contributed to by our own governments sanctions that aren't just targeting the elite and political leaders in venezuela. but harming everyday people. we need to change american policy in latin america from one that is actually starving people right now, to one that actually respects peoples rights and helps people that want to stay home, have the chance to thrive at home. we just came back from a trip to latin america, a diplomatic trip alongside the leaders -- let stop displacing people from latin america, and come up with a more legal and orderly way for people that want to travel. >> i'm glad that you brought up venezuela. venezuelans as well. because, i want to talk to you out some of the reporting
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that we have. and the president's decision to grant temporary protected status to hundreds of thousands of venezuelans, coming after pressure from democrats. especially democrats here in new york. many migrants have been sent. i know there's been some mixed feelings about the president's handling of this migrant issue. where are you on this? >> i appreciate the president has said on temporary status for other people from venezuela. we also need it for folks across central america. we need a solution for our families and neighbors that have been here for many years. we have to accept that instead of continuing to discriminate against immigrants, providing work permits, the ability to be treated like everybody else is actually going to improve our economy, and make things better for everyone. and so i want to make sure that the president has support for this move to protect those folks -- give those folks from venezuela
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the right to work. we need to accelerate those work permits. because i know that there is frustration out there. folks say, well, we see all these people sitting in a shelter. but they are ready to work. ready to contribute to society. ready to help build up our economy. we just need to give them that chance. at the same time, recognized that we have people pouring out of that country who are seeing some of the greatest displacement from cuba that we have seen in decades. but we have a policy of starving people in cuba. i'm not even just talking about sending free feud to cuba. i'm talking about them being allowed to even buy food from places like texas and louisiana. we need to change our policy relative to cuba and venezuela. make sure that people can stay there if they want to. >> congressman casar, i want to switch gears here for justice. again and talk to about what's happening in washington right now, as we are kind of barreling towards this potential government shutdown. because of a leadership, or lack thereof, it, seems of speaker mccarthy. how do you see this affecting not only federal workers across the country, if we were to go
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into shutdown mode, but also the crisis at the border? >> what we see right now is that speaker mccarthy has handed the gavel over to marjorie taylor greene and the chaos caucus. they want to do damage to our economy. they want to do damage to government services because they want to score political points against president biden. doesn't matter if they are throwing working people under the bus in the process. right now, you have virtually every progressive member in the whole democratic caucus, and even folks like senator john cornyn, and mitch mcconnell saying we are ready to fund the government. we are ready to move forward with a compromise that has already been struck between republicans and the president. but the small number of republicans that are holding kevin mccarthy hostage, and instead of showing leadership, he's setting us into a delivery shut down. because they want to score political points. that is just not right. the american people need to know it. >> congressman, greg casar, like you so much sir. appreciate it. we are following some breaking news, everybody. with the indictment of senator
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bob menendez. new jersey congressman andy kim, who was one of the first longer -- he is announced he will challenge him for the senate seat. kim saying this, we cannot jeopardize the senate or compromise our integrity. menendez has insisted he will not step down. meanwhile, senator john fetterman has become the first democratic senator to join the cause for menendez to resign. i want to turn now to the race for the gop presidential nomination. things are starting to heat up in michigan, where both president biden and the former president are set to make appearances over the next couple of days. they will be showing support for the thousands of striking autoworkers there, the union has not yet come forward with an endorsement of either candidate. meanwhile, trump's challengers are already on the ground. that ramaswamy was the highest profile candidate to speak at the state's republican leadership conference. i want to bring in now nbc's campaign embed, jillian frankel, on the ground in traverse city, michigan, to talk more about this. julian, good to talk to you. give us a sense of what you are hearing, about which candidates are really resonating with
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voters in michigan. >> that's right, yasmin, businessman and were present -- revenge ramaswamy has been on the ground here in michigan. he's been pitching himself to the michigan gop had a republican leadership conference. along the way, as we heard from him before, he start of tried to strike a balance between supporting this maga agenda, and praising former president trump, while slowly starting to differentiate himself from the former president to win over some of those sort of would-be trump voters. also coming up at this conference, we are expecting to hear from kari lake, who of course ran for arizona governor back in 2022. she ended up losing that race, but she is expected to announce a senate bid soon. we are also just days away from visits to michigan from president biden, and former president trump. now, these are separate visits, but they are both coming to support the united auto workers who are continuing to strike on the ground here in michigan. which of course trump won this state back in 2016, narrowly. but then lost to biden in 2020.
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some republicans are willing to say that they are at least considering a trump alternative. but the voters that i spoke with on the ground here at this conference say they are standing by the former president. take a listen. >> i would love to see president trump when. run and win one more time. because i think he's not a politician. he's a businessman. and his policies for america were excellent. and we need that again, to clean up the mess that we have right now. >> i would probably lean towards donald trump, based off the fact of what he did, when he was in office. not what he says he's going to do. but at the end of the day, on a personal level, would i be a trump fanatic? no. but he ain't inviting me to dinner. he's not sitting in my house. but the policies and the decisions that he made to affect me and my family. >> we are just days away now,
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just days away from the second gop presidential primary debate, where trump's competitors will have their chance to make their pitch to the american people. for why they should be considered an alternative to the former president. even as he continues to lead in the polls. yasmin? >> jillian frankel for us, thank you julian. at the break, everybody, a new ukrainian strike on russia. as president zelenskyy returns from his trip to u.s. with the additional military aid from the biden administration. coming up tomorrow, march for our lives cofounder and parkland shooting survivor, david hogg, joins me on his new reaction to the white house -- something he's been lobbying for four years. that's tomorrow. two pm eastern, right here on msnbc. we'll be right back. be right back. covid-19 shot when you get your flu shot? huh. two things at once. two things at once! ♪ two things at once. i'll have the...
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joining us now is igor novikov, former advisor and to president zelenskyy. igor, it's also a paw -- it's always a pleasure to talk to you, my friend. is there concern on the ground i about the concern that president zelenskyy got from united states, despite the continued support from president biden along with the majority of democrats as well? the fact that, for instance, speaker mccarthy did not give him a joint address to congress? >> definitely, there's a lot of concern on the ground here. but you have to understand that people who are in the know, who understand the political process in the united states, myself included, we know why that is happening. and although we wouldn't like to see our fight for freedom, and for our lives to become a domestic political tennis ball, unfortunately, we are ready for that to happen. most of the people though, ordinary ukrainians, they are definitely disappointed. because, for them, america is a
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big brother. a friendly country. one that when the tables turned, they feel betrayed. >> tell me about long range missiles and how they are going to help the fight against russia. >> the actual war is being decided on the logistical front. more so than in the trenches. therefore, if we can disrupt russian logistics, if we can move them further away from -- that would put us in the driving seat, and make the counteroffensive more effective. but for that, we need long-range weapons. and that's -- on the headquarters of the black sea fleet. it's a perfect demonstration. we seek out quite a number of high-ranking officers who were behind the weekly missile attacks on kyiv and other cities in ukraine. >> one of the major concerns, i think, for many republicans,
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from some americans on the ground as well is the fact that there doesn't seem to be really an and insight. and will americans have to continue to fund this war for who knows how long, do you think that there is an end in sight? there can be an off ramp. >> i don't think there will be an off ramp anytime soon. but at the same time, to me, it sounds ridiculous. war is something that is lot until victory, not and selling some made up for expiry date. obviously, there will be fatigue. this is a new form of law [inaudible] you can't just say, you've had two years, let's make a deal with a country that is without the -- for breaking its promises. >> what is your biggest concern, if russia, if putin were to win this war, what that would mean? >> well, [inaudible]
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dozens of female veterans pressing capitol hill for action this week, after a concerning new report on the state of women in the military. the study from the wounded warrior project found female that's are more likely than their male counterparts to experience moderate to severe depression, ptsd, and anxiety, as well as sexual assault. nbc's julie tsirkin joins me once again, with more on this report. julie, good to talk to again. this was one of the most comprehensive studies that we have seen on this topic. what are you hearing, exactly needs to change? >> certainly the most comprehensive report concerning women veterans. that is the largest growing cohort of veterans, period. expected to go from 9% to 17% in the next 15 or so years.
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so, with this report laid out, really, is touching all these topics you just laid out. for mental health, including military sexual trauma, which we know happens, and is under reported as is. also the care that women are able to get. for example, i spoke to one veteran, valerie lewis, she was a combat veteran. she told me, when she was transitioning out into civilian life, when she began going to the va, they would often say, nice to meet you, where is your husband? the actual veteran, right? this women who had served so many years in this country, gave so much service. she also talked about having to go out into the community to get basic care. from ob/gyn yearly checkups, to mammograms, something that women over a certain age have to do yearly. all of that took away too long at the va. when she asked for a specific doctor, a woman specifically, they gave her a man. or they said you have to wait another three, four months. i spoke to congresswoman, nancy mace, about this. a republican, she was the first women to god great -- graduate from the citadel military congress in south
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carolina. very big on women's issues, specifically -- here's what she told me congress can do. >> we can draft legislation to help give women veterans the resources that they need. we can draft policy, regulations in particular, that would free up, if you can't get an appointment at the va, then will allow you to go somewhere else. you shouldn't be charged out of pocket for it. there are things we can do, policy wise, on regulations or at the va, it happens in hearings, listening to policies we can adjust within the va. >> yasmin, you know what will make the via a lot worse, essentially, a government shutdown. because they are already experiencing staff shortages, according to this report. shortages for women care, especially, it will only get worse with the shutdown. >> let's hope, with this report, there are actual real changes that women desperately need, and deserve. julie tsirkin for us, and thank you julie, appreciate, it really important stuff. finally, after waiting 25 years to see beyoncé in concert, john
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hetherington's dream was crushed when airline he booked to get him to the seattle concert said it could not accommodate his electric wheelchair. leaving the crushed 34-year-old who stood suffers from cerebral palsy to say, this is a specific issue, this is ableism, this is what i've dealt with my whole life. that is when beyoncé and her fans, known as the beehive, stepped in. they not only arranged a ticket to a concert in arlington, texas, for john. but they also arranged for his transportation, and a one-on-one meet and greet with the queen bee herself. how incredible is that. what a moment for him. all right, that wraps it up for. me i'm yasmin vossoughian, on the back in the chair tomorrow, two pm eastern. i symone starts right now. s right now. >> greetings everyone. you're watching symone. another week of chaos and dysfunction on capitol hill. speaker mccarthy and house republicans are no closer to averting a government shutdown. deadline is seven days out, but
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