,,, it peter of our interview, are the segments for the tonight and across the week. i encourage you to check out that website link. you can always find me on social media ari melber.com, or social media sites ari melber .com. i have questions for you guys about, news, live for this, head and i try to answer their. so just wanted to mention that as we all take in this living history together. that does it for, us keep it right here on msnbc. >> really good to have you here. so have you ever been asked to dog sit? or cats it for a friend while they are away? or to plant sit even and what are your friends plants?

are you the person who has been given the spare key to your neighbor's apartment in case of emergency? i feel like maybe this was different and different for different generations, but i feel like an hour live sometimes, there are not that many formal science in life. there are not that many formal bits of feedback that can tell you if you are doing okay. things that can tell you whether the people who know you do not just like, you they trust you. they think you are an honorable person. there are a few formal things like that, you can be voted captain of a team, and school sports or something, you can be chosen by your peers for some type of responsibility. maybe you get asked to be on the select board in your, town or get asked to be on the bargaining in your job or something like that. there are some formal things that come across. more often it is these not

formal small personal things. being asked by a neighbor or friend to dogs, it being interested with that. being given that spare key by your neighbor. maybe it dawns on you that as your family members are making decisions about where they are going to live, you find that members of your family are moving to be closer to where you live. that is because they think you are solid. you can be counted on. it can also be the really humbling things, the more serious stuff like somebody asking him to be their child's god parent. somebody asking you to be the executor of their will. there are things like this in life, large things and small things, that i think of as midlife checkups. signs of weather in the eyes of your peers, and your loved ones, you are seen as somebody who is doing okay, doing things right, honorable and trustworthy.

you can be counted on. if you do not have anything like that in your life, i hope you someday do. i hope every one of us someday is listed as the in case of emergency contact in someone else's phone. let us all be that for somebody someday. at the level of us as a country though not just individuals today's news brought maybe the best test i had ever seen. the starkest test i had ever seen of whether a country is doing things right in the eyes of the people who know it best. today, in a surprise, the united states and iran exchanged prisoners. five americans who have been unjustly held in iran. basically as hostages. they were released from prison today. they were flown to qatar, and then they were quickly flown on towards the united states where they are being reunited with

their families. these are five iranian americans, one of whom was the longest held american in iran since 1979. he was held in iran for eight years. in the prison the notorious prison. at least two of the others who were released today were held in iran for five years. these people have been held effectively as hostages by the iranian government for so much time. but the biden administration negotiated to get them free and today in a surprise, these five americans flew out of iran. they flew to qatar immediately. and then on to the united states. now as part of this negotiation, the u.s. government also agreed to free five iranians, iranian americans who were being held here. people who were charged or convicted with various crimes here. and, these were mostly related to alleged or proven violations

of the sanctions our government has against iran. officials basically -- swap five americans held in iran coming home here. five iranians, or iranian americans being held here, freed, to go back to iran. but, it is telling. it is very telling that when the five people who were imprisoned in iran were freed in iran, they all did the same thing. they all hightailed it out of iran immediately, he left that country, they stopped in qatar briefly, and they -- all five of them. you look at the five on the other side of the, deal the five who were freed here in the united states and their plans do not look the same. at least one, possibly two of the men freed here today in the deal with iran are not going back to iran. they are going to stay in america.

one told news organizations today, another iranian -- that they are going to stay in america. thanks. no plans to leave here for iran. are you crazy. i feel this is an important moment for us as a, country just as it is a sign of a life well lived. if someone asks you to water their plants while they are, gone somebody interests you with your housekeeping case of emergency, so too is it a sign that you are doing something right as a country. when even the people who you free from prison decide they rather stay here in this country, and go back to the country that negotiated for their freedom. no i would stay here in this country even though he brought federal criminal charges against, me it is still nicer here than there, even though that is the country that traded for me. i will stay here. top whatever trash you want to about the united states of,, truly feel free, it is literally a free country. clearly we are doing something right. thank you iran for the high

stakes international negotiations on my behalf that freed me to leave america where i'm being criminally prosecuted also i would prefer to stay in america despite all of that. see you never. think about what that says about us as a country. many are close to three dozen american hostages that the biden administration has now successfully brought home from various despotic countries around the world. republicans are criticizing president biden, criticizing the biden administration for getting these americans home today from iran. you know what, these americans are on their way home tonight from iran. they are no longer in the notorious prison or they have been languishing for five years, eight years without hope. these americans are coming home. and, yes, republicans are criticizing president biden for getting them home. republicans also criticized

president biden for getting britney griner home out of russia after the government there took her hostage as well frankly i look forward to the day we get to hear all the republican criticism about president biden getting evan gershkovich home from russia as well the wall street journal reporter who is being held hostage in moscow still as we speak hopefully the day he comes home will arrive soon as well. inevitably republicans will be up in arms about it when it happens but it will nevertheless be a great day. with this dramatic and joyful news today about these long held american hostages being released from prison in iran or flown home to the united states, and at least one if not two of the five released here as part of the deal deciding they will nevertheless day here in this country thank you very much. with president biden in new york for the general assembly where he will make a big speech tomorrow, with all of that going on we have america's ambassador to the united

nations. the estimate linda thomas-greenfield here tonight with us on set for the interview very much looking forward to that conversation in just a moment. but that dynamic that i am describing at work in the news today, that indication that well for ella were false, we must be doing something right. if even the people of other countries suffering from our prison through diplomatic negotiations nevertheless want to stay here after they are sprung, i feel like that dynamic is also a reminder that what we do have in this country is unique. and, it is not inevitable. what sets us apart as a country is loose-able. it is fragile. it needs protecting. and you can see that in the other headlines in today's news. headline, threats melt against prosecutors and fbi agents

working on hunter biden probe. prosecutors and fbi agents involved in the hunter biden investigation have been the targets of threats and harassment according to government officials and congressional testimony obtained by nbc news. quote, it is part of a dramatic uptick and threats against fbi agents that is coincided with the tax on the fbi and justice department by congressional republicans and former president donald trump. the threats have prompted the fbi to create a stand-alone unit to investigate and mitigate them. previously unreleased testimony. another, one headline, fbi investigating violent threat against officials in fulton county georgia. in the saga of the multiple criminal trials that are ahead for former president and republican leading congressional presidential candidate donald trump, one major thing we are waiting on for right now could happen at

any time, it is news on whether the federal judge overseeing trump's case in d. c., no one about him trying to overturn the election, will that judge grant the prosecutor's request for an order that restricts the kinds of statements that trump can make about that. so astronaut prejudiced the jury, so as not to intimidate witnesses? it is very striking. we are waiting on the order from the judge right, now but in the request for that order from the, judge prosecutors had to give examples to the court of some of the times that trump's overheated public statements have led his followers to commit violence, or threatened violence on his behalf. they included in their court filing, the recent arrest of a trump supporter in texas who called the chambers of the

federal judge overseeing that trial, and threatened to kill the judge. because, trump is on trial. all of these things, the court filing about the potential gag order, the threats to fulton county officials, the threats to the fbi itself. these are all just in the past few days. but these headlines are just now the ambient move of service in the republican politics. it is a fulton county officials being threatened. it is the fulton county sheriff having to investigate that. it is the fulton county sheriff being threatened, and the fbi having to investigate that. then it is the fbi being threatened, -- officials and agents themselves being threatened, and the fbi having to investigate that. it is the judge in one of the trump case is being threatened. it is another judge, and another one of the trump case is being threatened. it is the grand jurors and one of the trump case is being threatened. it is the prosecutor in one trump case being threatened. there's the prosecutor in another trump case being threatened. it is a federal prosecutor in the hunter biden investigation, getting quote, such a barrage of credible threats that she

had to seek security help from the u.s. marshal security service. it is public health workers being threatened and harassed. it is the head of the cdc getting death threats ahead of a cdc. it is the staff of the national archives being threatened. sure, why, not the national archives has been hit with a wave of threats as the fbi retrieved classified records from trump's mar-a-lago club. it is the irs being threatened. quote, irs launch a safety review after what wing threats. republicans in congress repeating baseless claims made by experts saying potentially puts federal workers in danger. it is more than a dozen people now federally criminally charged with making threats to election workers all over the country. now, it is republican u.s. senator, former republican nominee mitt romney telling his biography about serving members of congress of the house of senate, confiding in him that they have taken specific votes in kong chris, that benefited trump, specifically because they were afraid for their physical safety of the did not. they would have voted in a way not beneficial to trump, but they felt physically threatened. and so, they voted anyway beneficial to trump. quote, think of your personal

safety, think of your children, why put your wife and children in this? if public life, even just regular citizen participation and politics is to fuse with threats of violence now, one of the things that for sure does is in force regular people out of politics, and out of public service. right, it is common sense. if politics and public service are being made into something that is quite literally dangerous, than in the normal course of events, normal people will steer clear. right? that is part of why there is protected associate with, others even for political purposes in this country. you have to be able to gather with others, you ought to be able to assemble, you have the right to assemble peaceable, to seek the grievances. why do we have a right to peacefully assemble, so people can assemble peacefully, so that you do not feel like

trying to redress your grievances with the government is something that will expose you to a physical danger, either from the government or anyone else. we protect protesters, we protect people protesting peacefully to say their piece. so, we can all peacefully say our piece. so that we will, so that our government will be accountable, to us so our government will continue to adapt to the needs, wants, and voice of the people. what we have now is an atmosphere of ultra right-wing political violence and threat, which does not only affect the individual politicians and civil servants and poll workers in law enforcement officials being directly targeted by trump supporters. it has a systemic effect as well. systemically overtime, it thins out, it haulers out public sphere in government. so it is no longer for anybody, it is only for the brave and militants, and those who

themselves are willing to either abide threats of violence, or issue it themselves. that is not the kind of democracy we are. that is not who we are supposed to be. we are supposed to be -- having a rollicking free press, we are supposed to have the constitutionally protected freedom to associate. the freedom to assemble, including for political reasons, from the government. we are supposed to have a vibrant civil society. we are supposed to have no barrier to entry, participatory democracy at every level. from student government, to school, board to, city of here locally elected -- and state rep, and president. if participation in public life at every level and said is -- my people wielding guns, and threats of mob violence, and death threats and intimidation of witnesses and doxxing of grandeur's and the rest of it, then at a fundamental level we are just doing it wrong.

we are doing in fact, like way too much of the world does it. and the fact that we haven't -- that we have been different, the fact that we have been a place where government is by and for the people, is at least up until now why much of the world has been aspiring to come here when they can. last week we saw republicans in the state of wisconsin fire the widely praised technocratic nonpartisan administrator of elections in that crucial swing state, after she refused to help wisconsin republicans model or overturn the result of that states presidential election in 2020. republicans in the wisconsin legislature were told by the attorney general of the state, they were told by their own lawyers in the legislature, that they do not have the authority to fire this election officials what went ahead and they are trying to do it anyway. this week, will see republicans

in the crucial swing state of north carolina try and to effectively the same thing as north carolina republicans this week are teaming up a vote to take over elections administration in that state as well. they have been trying to do this in north carolina, but they have been blocked so far by voters in a clearer state referendum. also, multiple court rulings are standing in their way as well, but this week they are apparently ready to go forward again, to take over the administration of elections in that, because heaven forbid we hold on to free and fair technocratic lee sound and bring election administration in this country, we'll small democracy. heaven forbid we hold on to that, when instead we could traded in for garbage, and trusted elections like everyone else, has and so many parts of the rest of the world, which

again is one of the things that sounds good people of all the other countries in the world fleeing to us when they can. because, for so long, we had it better. because our constitution has led us to do it better. we have a good and rare thing growing in this country. a republic if we can keep it. it does not mean we did not have our problems, we have a good system for fixing our problems. we are listed as the in case of emergency contact in the phone of the whole rest of the world. it is something to be proud of. and, it is something to fight hard to protect. our american ambassador to the united nations joins us live here next. stay with us.

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sour the writers guild of america and hollywood studios have reached a tentative agreement that could resolve the writers strike and, close to one of the longest walkouts in entertainment history. let's go to nbc entertainment reporter chloe melas by phone. chloe, what are we hearing? it just came in in the last hour. >> yes, so shortly ago, you have the writers guild of america that represent over 11,000 writers across hollywood and the entertainment industry, saying that they have reached this tentative agreement. now they represent hollywood studios, including our own comcast and nbc universal.

but we knew that the top studio ads from netflix, to warner bros. discovery, all of these studio heads, they were at the negotiating table for the first several days. then, they disappeared from those tables in person. yesterday and today, we knew that they were getting closer on this. so part of the statement from the wga, quote, with great pride this deal is exceptional, with meaningful games and protections for riders in every sector of the membership. now we know the reason that this agreement is tentative, and something that is a very telling and their statement if they say, we cannot sign off on an official until all the i's are dotted. that is a subliminal message there. they are talking about a.i.. we knew the hang-up with this deal had to do with artificial intelligence. what do i mean by that? while, many people in hollywood,

rioters concerned that a.i. technology, although innovative, would essentially wipe out the entire writing industry. it could put out scripts, we have seen authors come forward who have books, who worry this could really hurt the livelihood of riders everywhere. but then you had tonight, the sack after that represents the union of over 100,000 actors that they are thrilled that the steel is taking place. they are still holding out for their own negotiation. so s.a.g. africa has never had any sort of negotiation with the hollywood studios. so the the rioters could be back any day now, we might see them hold out until the actors get their deal done. so for any viewers that are wondering how does this affect me, well, you will probably see a lot of your daytime talk shows come back, late night tv

come back as well. we saw true barry moore and bill maher and others recently for wanting to bring back their shows, and they were walking it back and waiting for a deal to be done. so it is interesting, it is something we should be watching. other things we know the actors shared similar demands on was higher wages, and also a bigger cut of royalties known as residuals. so that is something else. in the age of streaming, you are seeing actors and writers wanting to be paid proportionally to how their shows are doing on streaming. yet, we do not really know the viewership of these shows on streaming. you heard bob iger recently come out and say, there is not as much money in streaming as everybody thinks. there really is not as much money there. and so, that is another sticking point that we will see as the negotiations drawn out. this is a really big moment. this comes after five days of straight negotiation. it comes after 146 days of this

shut down. they asked cost the california economy over five billion dollars. >> yes, three and a half decades, we have not seen something like this as you have been reporting. this is also the first time in 146 days, chloe, which you know well, that we have received notice they have a tentative agreement, so it is, news but on the flip side you are saying, what about the actors union? what might that guild do will they wait one for the, other that is one potential contingency. they also have to have the board and all the members also vote on whatever agreement might have been? >> exactly. so they have to ratify this. the los angeles mayor carrie bass came out tonight, and say although this is great, we really have to focus on getting the entertainment industry and all of the small businesses that depend on it back on their feet of stronger than ever before. i just want to point out, so many other industries have been affected by this.

construction. you might not realize dry cleaning. we saw the u.s. jobs report come out recently, 17,000 jobs because of this hollywood strike. so this is a massive moment right now. -- people took the social media who are rioters, saying they cannot pay their bills, they are dipping into their for one k, or they have already run out of savings, selling their homes, sleeping on peoples couches. leaving the industry altogether. they wanted to be in their whole lives, they love, it but the money is just not there. so hopefully we will see some major concessions on the side of -- really meeting the wga, the writers guild of america for the demands they wanted. it has been 146 days, and i know a lot of people are hopeful and happy tonight. >> nbc's chloe melas, thank you so much for that piece of news, that breaking news coming out of the writers guild of america, again announcing within the

last hour a tentative agreement that has been reached. that does not mean the strike is over officially, there is a lot of contingencies there as chloe was just telling us. stay with us, we will continue to bring the latest on this tentative agreement, and if we learn more of, course we will have it right here. for now we will return to regular programming right here on msnbc. >> and russia knows, that and that is why they are doing everything possible to damage democracies around the world. but we in hour recently, we had a meeting of community of democracies, and we were able to say to the world, democracies do work. democracies to deliver to their people. we know there are attacks on democracy today. we have seen crews happening in africa, recently. we have seen autocratic governments try to do everything possible not to engage with the world. but we cannot just say, oh, it is okay, they are doing, this they are winning. we have to keep fighting. that is exactly what the

administration is doing. it is what i'm doing every day in the united nations. >> when you take america's case to the world, which is literally your job at the united nations. one of the things that has changed that you sort of have on your plate, or that you need to account for, the way you represent america to the world, that no other u. n. ambassador has had to deal with. the fact that, for the first time, we have a former president facing criminal charges, he happens to also be the leading republican contender for the next republican presidential nomination. lots of countries have charged or locked up former presidents, prime ministers, it is not that unusual in most parts of the world, it is very unusual and unprecedented here. i wonder how that factors into your job of talking to the rest of the world about the values of democracy, and about the rule of law, and accountability? >> look, there is no question to people around the world that our democracy is strong. but, it is under attack. we have to defend that democracy, every way we can. when i arrived in new york in 2021, i was embraced by countries around the world. i was embraced by friends as well as competitors.

they were happy to see the united states back at the table. they have asked me over and over again, can we feel confident that you are going to stay at the table? and i can't give them that confidence other than to say that our country is strong, and our country will always survive, that we have been tested before, we have survived a civil war, and our country continues to drive. we are not a perfect democracy by any means. we are constantly self correcting, we acknowledge our fault, we survive, and we will continue to do that. >> our guest is linda thomas-greenfield, she is america's ambassador to the united nations. we will take a quick break. when we come back, i will ask you a thorny question that you are not going to want to answer. that is the only thing i can promise you about. >> i know how to not answer. >> the world's most diplomatic people or the world's most difficult interview. so we'll be right back.

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interview is linda thomas-greenfield, she is that u.s. ambassador to the united nations. this is the week of the united nations general assembly. along with president biden, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy is going to be speaking with the un general assembly this week. i think they're both speaking tomorrow. >> i know the president is speaking tomorrow. >> i also expect that president biden and zelenskyy will meet and continue their talks in person on this trip. i have to ask you about something that i realize is a phony thing, which is that one of the things we have learned, in the news, in the past week or so, is that as america is supporting ukraine and its war to defend russia, a single american citizen has business interest of such a type, that he has been able as individual to make decisions to constrain ukraine's military from carrying out operations against

russia. i'm talking of course about elon musk. it is, i'm sure this is not an unprecedented thing in american history. but in mr. musk's case, we have somebody who's an american businessman, who effectively as foreign policies way on his own. for whatever reason, has effectively decided to conduct competing, and i would say oppositional foreign policy to the united states, a country of which -- who does president zelenskyy come to to complain about that? new are the master to the united nations. mr. musk appears to be competing with his own country in terms of what his foreign policy, us and has the technological resources to do it in a materially significant way? >> you know, i would assume

that president zelenskyy will raise that with the united states. and having served as an ambassador overseas, and having served here, i do have countries come to me to complain sometimes about the actions of an american company in their country. and, we do try to address those issues when they are brought to our attention. so i assume if president zelenskyy has, complained he will bring that to us if he has not already. >> with the kind of technology we are talking about here, this startling technology linked to mr. musk's spacex technology, it is an integral supply line of information for the ukrainian military. an irreplaceable asset for them. that is bad in one sense, we now, know the united nations -- the united states as a

government has effectively cannot make a decision as to how that resource should be deployed to help or hurt our ally in the conflict. it isn't that made by business, which is partly an american business, but not behaving in a way consistent with americas vested interests. what do -- what or the responsibilities of the american government towards american businesses that are missing with american foreign policy? >> we do two things working with american companies, we support american companies in their efforts to work overseas. but we also establish certain parameters for how american companies operate. this is a situation that i cannot comment on specifically. i do not know any of the details of this. but, i do expect that president zelenskyy will raise, it and it will be brought to the attention of others to address. >> i knew you were going to devoid the answer, i knew i could tell you before i asked it because you can't answer specific. i find it to be a confounding situation just as an observer

and american. another situation that is confounding and concerning is one that the biden administration has expressed very sharp concern about, which is a new law in uganda which is being called the kill the case law. it establishes the death penalty for something they called aggravated homosexuality. they have started to arrest people under this law, and -- the biden administration has been sharply critical of, this is the obama administration was critical of this in 2013 and 14 when the government tried at the first time around. but there are a couple ways in which u.s. fingerprints are actually on this terrific policy. one is that american right-wing evangelical activists have encouraged the government to do this. the other, is that u.s. funds

make up a significant portion of the ugandan governments -- passive assistance to get through the program to contradict the effects of hiv and a. i. d. s. in the country. how far is of course very successful program. i think all righteous people want to defend it in terms of lives around the world -- >> 25 million. >> it is an astonishing effect of american program, perhaps one of the most lifesaving american intervention in the world of hurt. and, i keep hearing from activists who are trying to keep the gay community from being killed off by their government in uganda, that funds are specifically being routed through the ugandan government in a way that empowers the ministries, and the individual ministers. and, given the how strongly the administration feels about, this given their way that the funding -- that is facing really, really

serious, serious risk. >> you know, i was asked this question, i was on the show, the last time i spoke to them, let me just start off with saying this law is horrific. we made very clear in no uncertain terms to the ugandan government, that it is unacceptable. and, we are doing everything in our power to support the lgbtq community in uganda to ensure their safety, and to ensure that they are not damaged by this law. we do know that at least one individual has been arrested and charged and is in the process of being tried. >> because it is a capital, offense it is being held in present -- life-threatening. >> so, we are looking at and i said this before, how we can continue to provide the good support that we provide directly to individuals to help save for their lives without putting that funding through the ugandan government, or through individuals in the ugandan government who are

responsible for implementing this law. it is a huge dilemma, but we have to find a way to do that. we have to find a way to hold those accountable who are basically violating the human rights of the lgbtq community in uganda. we engage with them on a regular basis, i was involved with the situation during the 2013, 2014 period, during the obama administration.

when i was an l sussex secretary for africa, we were successful in aiding the government to stop moving forward on the law. we failed on that this time around. we are continuing to engage the lgbtq community on how we can help them, and also to put pressure on the ugandan government to push back and urge them not to enforce -- >> neighboring countries of course watching closely to see what happens in uganda, if they should also pursue legislation like this reaching the stakes further. linda thomas-greenfield, madam ambassador to the united nations, busiest woman in new york this, week thank you so much for your time. it is an honor to have so much time with you. >> thank you. >> we will be right back. stay with us. tourists that turn into scientists. tourists photographing thousands of miles of remote coral reefs.

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