>> reporter: with different solutions. priscilla thompson, nbc news. we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports." let's get right to it. ♪♪ at this hour, right on, hollywood's green writers in studios reach a tentative deal to end the historic strike has paralyzed the film and television industry for 146 days. so what's next, and could a deal with actors be close behind? and now that indicted senator bob menendez has said he will not resign, will other democrats join john fetterman in calling for him to step down? is he just the first domino to fall? plus mexico strikes a deal with the u.s. to depressurize areas along the border, including one texas city where nearly 9,000 migrants have arrived. and fuel for talks, auto

workers report their pressure on ford is starting to pay off as president biden prepares to hit the picket lines tomorrow. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments, we begin with nbc's liz kreutz with the latest on that tentative writers strike agreement. tell us what we know about this deal, and what it might mean for some of our favorite shows. >> reporter: hey, chris, yeah, while we have a tentative deal. it came down late last night, the 146th day of this strike after both sides worked through the weekend to get this done. the writers guild of america released a statement where they say they don't want to release details of the deal until every i is dotted. right now, they're making sure that the legal language is all there in the contract, but they are elated by this deal. they said in a statement, this deal is exceptional with meaningful gains and protections for writers in every sector of the membership. we've seen reaction from members

of the writers guild, mindy kaling posted on social media saying i can't wait to get back to my people with multiple exclamation points. there's a lot of hope in hollywood right now, but even as mindy kaling is saying can't wait to bet back to work, it could be months before writers get back to work. once this deal is ratified and voted on, some writers can return in shows like late night shows and daytime talk shows can return, but with actors still on strike in the sag-aftra union, it could be many months before any of our favorite shows get back into production, any of our favorite streaming shows and television shows and movies. it is a hopeful sign that maybe this will provide a framework for actors, related to ai, and residuals from streaming shows. a lot of hope right now, we're waiting to get the details of this agreement, chris. >> liz kreutz, thank you so much for that. let's move over to capitol hill,

where more senate democrats are now weighing in on the indictment against their colleague, bob menendez and his defense against federal charges that we heard just a couple of hours ago. nbc's capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles joins me now. so what more have we heard from democrats. any new reaction since that press conference? >> there's been a little bit, chris, and we're expecting a lot more tomorrow when both the house and senate return after the jewish holiday. we are starting to see at least some senate democrats raise some concerns about bob menendez staying in office. you mentioned that john fetterman from pennsylvania has already called on him toresign. fetterman actually trolling bob menendez on twitter today, on x, the platform formerly known as twitter, talking about his excuse today that the reason that they had that cash at his house was for emergencies, and fetterman tweeting that we have an extra flashlight in our home for emergencies. and fetterman's spokesperson also saying today that he plans

to return the donations that menendez gave his campaign for senate in pennsylvania, and even suggested that they would provide the return of those donations and $100 bills. listen to what some other democrats and members of congress are saying about the scandal involving bob menendez. >> i believe that when all of the facts, long and hard about the cloud that's going to hang over his service in the united states senate. >> it is hard for me to believe that senator menendez can be effective in his job, given these allegations, but i think i want to get back and talk to my colleagues on the foreign relations committee before i recommend a path forward for senator menendez. >> these are indictments that have to be proven under the rule of law. the person accused under the presumption of innocence. >> reporter: in all three of

those cases, you see his fellow colleagues, the senate democrats walking up to the line of asking him to resign, not actually stepping over it, saying that he has the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty, but acknowledging this is going to make his role in congress that much more difficult. we should point out that today senator menendez did not give indication whether he plans to run for reelection in 2024. the only thing he said is that when all of the dust settles, legal troubles are behind him, he's confident he will still be the senior senator from new jersey. we'll have to see if that's the case as this all plays outment chris. >> ryan nobles, thank you for that. in a new deal with the u.s., mexico has now agreed to deport some migrants to help depressurize areas along the border. nbc's julia ainsley reports from eagle pass, texas, where there is that growing crisis. julia. >> reporter: here in eagle pass, texas, is the epicenter of what has become a near

record-breaking migrant surge. just today, we saw hundreds of migrants cross the rio grande through treacherous waters that have killed some migrants last week. they came here. border patrol started cutting the wire to let in hundreds of migrants who are now behind me. they're being processed. you can see a lot of young children, families, they can get water, use the bathroom and they are taken to border patrol processing centers. border processing centers are double their capacity, trying to release these migrants as quickly as possible to take in more and more, they keep coming. you can hear the trains. a lot of migrants are riding on top of the trains, and when we talk to them, they're happy they have gotten across, but many are crying because the journey was so dangerous. cartels were violent. many kidnapped, assaulted, they're worried about their children being hurt as well.

they will be processed and released into the united states. they're released with a notice to appear. sometimes the date can be set years in the future. it's calling into question the effectiveness of the biden border policies. they replaced that with something that they thought would be even stricter, that would keep migrants from coming here and claiming asylum. the word gets back, more migrants come. some of the migrants said they wished they hasn't come, the journey was so dangerous. i don't think i've ever seen a day like today with these numbers and this kind of desperation. >> julia ainsley, thank you for that. well, president biden is expected to join all the workers on the picket lines tomorrow in michigan. nbc's maggie vespa is outside a stellantis plant in center line,

michigan. where do things stand in the negotiations as far as we know, and what are some of the strikers telling you about the president's decision to come? >> yeah, so essentially what we're hearing from people on the picket lines here is they will take all the support they can get. they don't care about the politics behind this. they don't care about the infighting between president biden and former president trump who's expected to visit 24 hours later on wednesday. we have known that for the past week or so. they just want anyone who is willing to come here and stand on the picket lines with them, perhaps point a bigger spotlight at this and put more pressure on the big three. of course gm, ford and chrysler under stellantis. keep in mind the context behind this. you asked about the negotiations. we're at a stalemate. we're a week and a half into this. the uaw says they are at a standstill, last week, like gm and stellantis. this is a stellantis parts distribution facility. this is one of the 38 new facilities that was roped into the strike on friday, kind of

part of the latest escalation. workers have been out there picketing ever since. they want to get the deal done. the uaw holding strong to its 40% pay hike demand. also the eliminate of paid tiers, they point to the concessions they gave up during the 2008 recession. they point to how they were working, they say, seven days a week, 12 hours a day, through covid. they were deemed essential workers through covid. they haven't gotten a substantial pay increase in well over a decade. basically they say since the recession. again, we talk about the president coming to visit. we talk about a former president coming to visit. they say they are way more focused on negotiations. take a listen to these sound bites. this is confined of in line with a lot of what we're hearing. >> it seems like it came like last minute. >> we ready and he's on our side. that's a great thing. >> it's nice to know he's at least paying attention to this,

but like i said, politics really don't need to be in the middle of negotiations between a company and their union. >> reporter: that was something else we heard here. they don't want to be a flash point for general political divisions. they are concerned about that, but again, really just focused on getting a deal done or deals done with each of the big three, and a final note, you can hear the support out here, a couple supporters out here today. the public details, the specifics of literally where the president is going to be, which picket line, which company he'll be specific to, and the same questions with former president trump on wednesday. those details have not yet been made public. and a lot of people want to know, what is the deal with these visits. are they going to be able to see the president and the former president, talk to them at all. they kind of want to hear the plan that both, again, the president and former president have for these visits as they get a bigger spotlight at negotiations. >> maggie vespa, thank you so much for your ongoing coverage

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you can count on one hand the number of u.s. senators in modern times who have resigned over a criminal or ethical scandal. men like al franken, bob packwood and harrison williams. now, senator bob menendez is fighting desperately to not be the next name on that list, but should he? understanding that our legal system is that he is absolutely innocent until proven guilty, would it still be better for his party and the country if he simply stepped aside? i want to bring in presidential historian, douglas brinkley, history professor at rice university. it's always good to have you on the program, doug.

while he didn't go easily, president nixon resigned and i'm quoting him here, i must put the interests of america first, and i'm wondering if that's an antiquated notion now. >> i'm afraid since the advent of donald trump and the white house, it seems more and more antiquated. he deteriorated what ethics and morality in civic society. this october 10th will be the 15th anniversary of spiro agnew, the first vp to resign under bribery charges, and did a little bit of probation time, but had the decency to walk when he was busted. i'm afraid with senator menendez, he drug new jersey through the mud before with these kind of charges. he was acquitted, but the evidence here, you know, 39

pages, indictments, seems to me that he's in a deep hot water, and very well would do well by the country and the party to seriously consider stepping aside. we have been played, chris, with clarence thomas on the supreme court, taking bribes and gifts and things, too. he doesn't leave. we're having this scribner, you know, i prefer not to lead attitude when politicians are being busted for corruption and bribery. >> i want to readoryou, doug, part of john fetterman's statement on senator menendez, and this is what he says, quote, he's entitled to theresumption of innocence under our system, but he's not entitled to wield influence over national policy, especially given the serious and specific nature of the allegations. are americans right to still at least hope to hold their leaders to a higher standard, especially when we're talking about someone with influence over foreign policy, influence over how billions of taxpayer dollars are spent. >> we absolutely must, and let's

be clear, it's an allegation going on against the new jersey senator. however, i mean, you can see the democratic party fed up with bob menendez, you know, the governor murphy has asked him to step down. i'm going to be interested in seeing how cory booker handles the situation in the coming days, but aoc on the progressive wing who's also, you know, a latino leader called bs on menendez from his union city speech that this is about attacking a latino politician, a cuban american. i think bob menendez is attracted to gold bars, and mercedes-benzs and pockets full of cash. >> you know, going into 2024, democrats want to be able to draw a distinction between their party and the ones supporting donald trump, amid multiple indictments, how much does this complication that distinction,

and are you surprised? you brought up cory booker. are you surprised we haven't seen more democrats taking a stand on the menendez indictment ? >> their silence speaks volumes. when menendez had these charges a few years back, the democrats rallied behind him. you're having silence with the exception of aoc and fetterman and a few who hit the sunday shows. i expect there will be more democrats asking him to get out of the way. certainly he can't run in 2024. new jersey is a blue state. why would you risk losing? and, you know, none of us are irreplaceable. you do something wrong, you admit it, make a deal. get out of the way. you know, as you mentioned, nixon, and i brought agnew, i always thought they looked bad in history, but in this era, the trump era, when they were busted, they admitted it and got

out of the way. donald trump is teaching politicians, never say you did anything wrong, never admit it. at all costs be corrupt and get lawyers and money to get you out of the jum. >> thanks for coming on, i appreciate it. there's new nbc polling that shows overwhelming majorities of americans have very real concerns about joe biden and donald trump. while the reason may be different. the result is now. warning sirens are sounding for both of the 2024 front runners. to better understand those concerns and the challenge they pose for joe biden and donald trump, we have been talking to voters in the key battleground state of arizona, which is home to the closest race in the 2020 election. nbc's dasha burns joins us from scottsdale, oh, my gosh, what a beautiful backdrop you have there in the beautiful state of

arizona. i know you have been talking to voters from across the political spectrum. do they have overlapping concerns? does each candidate offer his own area of worry? what are they telling you? >> reporter: yeah, their own area of worry, but i'll tell you, chris, the consensus is voters are not thrilled, as we talked about before, by the way, with the feeling of inevitability of a do over, biden/trump rematch. when they talk about age, it's not just that he's older because he's not that much older than trump, right, but it's the concern that they have with his competency, what they have seen from him on the campaign trail. they just are worried that he might not be up to the job, whereas with trump, they feel like he is a little more energetic. with trump, they are concerned about the indictments. they're not worried about the actual legal issues. and i'm talking mostly about

republicans here because republican voters do think that it is a bit of a witch hunt. they think it's not necessarily fair. they are concerned about the indictments, he's going to be wrapped in all of this and not going to be able to focus on the real issues at hand. the folks we talked to are just not thrilled with their options. listen. >> i wouldn't let donald trump watch my grand kids and i wouldn't let joe biden watch my grand kids for different reasons. why would i let them watch the country. >> i'm not sure i could confidently vote for either of the current front runners. it's embarrassing that we can't do better. >> reporter: both of those voters do lean conservative, and overall, they're just not sure what they're going to do here. this narrative of inevitability for both of these voters, you

know, they see the polls, like what nbc news just put out, and they feel like this is just where we're headed. and yet they tell me, when they talk to their friends and other republicans, other democrats, they feel like everyone is in the same boat or they don't want to see this happen, and yet the numbers say otherwise. and i've heard this from a lot of other voters, and so they question, you know, is this sort of a self-fulfilling prophesy. regardless, the numbers are what they are, and they are worried about what the future of the country looks like if this is where we end up. >> dasha burns in scottsdale for us, thanks. as we go inside the long meetings that could bring the historic standoff to an end. plus, i'll talk one on one with agriculture secretary tom vilsack. how a looming government shutdown could jeopardize food aid for millions of some of the country's most vulnerable families.

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. now that there's a tentative deal to end the hollywood strike, california governor gavin newsom says his state alone lost more than $5 billion and thousands of workers who did not get paid say they have been struggling to keep their homes and their health insurance.

cnbc's seema mody joins me for cnbc on msnbc. and also with my is "variety" television editor, good to have both of you. what do we know about the cost of the strike on the economy, and frankly, it seems to have brought about a ground swell of support for the labor movement right now. >> it's a great point, chris, the hollywood strike did take a toll on california's economy. estimates ranging from 3 to $5 billion. if this agreement is finalized, economists will be looking to see how quickly the media industry can get back into production and get workers to return. many who may have opted for part-time jobs or left the state. there could be a lag effect. roughly 700,000 people are employed in california by the entertainment industry, close to 5% of the total work force, followed by new york where the film and tv industry employs about 185,000. that's, i believe, about 6.5% of the city's gross domestic

product, so no doubt the strike has had an impact. now we await the finalization of the deal and production to restart. of course it comes at a time when the broader jobs market has been slowing a bit across the nation. that is seen as one of the reasons the fed kept rates on hold last week. >> seema, thank you so much for that. michael, intensively, there were five straight days of marathon talks before this agreement. what insights do you have about what happened, and could what happened give us any clues about the actor's strike? >> absolutely. first of all, the feeling is that the actors are now motivated as well to get a similar deal, and that there is sort of momentum as hopefully sag-aftra and the amptp, producers sit down to talk in the coming weeks. hopefully within the month. but, yeah, it came down to a couple of issues, including ai, artificial intelligence and concerns over that, as well as minimum staffing on shows.

you know, how many people are staffed o these different shows, as well as streaming residuals, which is very important, the way people consume television and film now has changed so dramatically, people feel they haven't been compensated for that. >> as "variety" put it, if i could be more specific, the first stop on the road to normalcy will be late night. give us a time line and what to look for. >> yeah, you know, right now it's looking like people are already being called back to work. so in the coming days, you know, once the wga does give the go ahead, writers can be back on staff, and can start prepping for these shows, and within a week or two, we'll see the late night shows come back. some come back sooner than others. bill mahr, it's likely he'll bring it back this weekend. the daytime shows which had planned to return last week will probably be back maybe as soon

as next week, followed then by late night. that will be the first sign of normalcy coming back to hollywood, seeing the talk shows back in production. >> let's talk about the movies, those are very complicated things. they often involve being in complicated places with lots and lots of people on set. what does that picture like and how much of a struggle will it be to get all of the various parties together to get those productions back up and running, assuming, assuming that there is a deal with the actors. >> yeah, i mean, the good news is especially with long lead projects like film and a lot of television shows, those scripts have already been written. it comes down to sag-aftra doing a deal, and of course the usual amount of time it takes to remount these productions, and these productions are not easy. let's just put together, and when things went to halt, you know, crew members scattered across the country, and you got to get crews back together. you got to find studio space. there is going to be a huge

crunch, especially at the start of the year, a real frenzy as we're calling it, the great restart happens. and there's a finite number of people who can work on these productions. so you are going to find a huge crunch as everyone tries to get back into production at the same time. >> yeah, a big crunch. that sigh of relief is going to sound a lot like the santa ana winds, it's going to be so loud. michael, thank you so much. always good to see you. burning documents, fanning the flames of paranoia, the new revelations from a trump aide turned author. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. "chris jg reports" only on msnbc ♪ stay off the freeways! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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the former trump aide who became a star witness during the january 6th hearing is peeling back the curtain on the paranoia inside the trump white house on the final days of the administration. in her new book "enough," cassid hutchinson said her old boss, mark meadows, burned so many documents in his fireplace in the final daysf the trump presidency that his wife complained to her about how expensive it had become to dry clean the bonfire aroma from his suits. here with us now. the former assistant d.a. at the manhattan district attorney's office, catherine christian, also an msnbc legal analyst. a lot of folks are familiar with ms. hutchinson. she called herself the conduit

to the white house chief of staff. i don't think anybody disputes she was in close daily contact. what do you make of these new revelations and what could they mean for mark meadows. >> he's indicted by fulton county, an essential witness for the special counsel of classified documents on january 6th. the problem is he has been indicted by fulton county, so he will not be testifying there. he'll be taking the 5th. if those cases go to trial before he goes to trial in fulton county. so in terms of fulton county, she'll be a very important witness because she worked, you know, she was his deputy, essentially. so apparently she already has testified. so information that she has will be highly relevant to his guilt, the prosecutors will say. >> so she'll really important, and yet she also revealed in an interview yesterday that before she switched lawyers from her original attorney who was paid for by a trump pac, right. she was advised the less you

recall the better. here's what she said? >> you looked over the transcript and recounted the number of times you said i don't know and i can't recall. >> in the final transcripts it was ridden with i don't knows and i don't recalls, which was information that i very clearly recalled. >> so on one hand, catherine, you could say, oh, she had a lawyer that was telling her to do something that she should not have done. on the other, couldn't trump's lawyers, the defense team, lean into that and say, she's not a credible witness. if she was willing to say something before and change her story, who's to say the story now is true. >> they'll argue that. her response would be that was because the lawyer who was provided to me by the trump campaign was encouraging me to do that. my conscience got the better of me, and i said you know what, i have to tell the truth. i'm not going to follow that

advice. i'm going to tell the truth now. >> do you think in your experience most juries will think that that's believable? >> yes, they will. i also will say the prosecutors are very upset anytime a witness they have is on tv and talking about the case, but it is what it is. and as long as she's not inconsistent with what she's told them, it's fine. you know, the defense is going to say she's doing this to sell a book. that's fine, as long as she is truthful and the jury believes she's credible. >> she is out and doing a number of interviews, including on this network later, donald trump himself has to respond to the government's motion for a gag order in the federal election interference case. that deadline is today. how is this going to go, do you think? what are we watching for? >> well, we're watching for the judge, what the prosecutor did very wisely is they did not ask for a gag order in the sense that they said, please, he can't speak anything about the case. they specifically said he can talk about the case.

any public documents, he can proclaim his innocence. he can not intimidate witnesses, you know, court personnel. disparage witnesses or other parties. that is limited. the judge would not be, if she grants that, limit his ability to proclaim his innocence or put up a defense. just don't intimidate witnesses. >> catherine christian, much more to come. thank you so much. jimmy carter and his wife roslyn made a surprise appearance at a peanut festival in their hometown of plains, georgia, over the weekend. the former president who will turn 99 on sunday and his 96-year-old wife were seen in a video shared by the carter center touring the festivities in a black suv. president carter has been in home hospice care since february. the former first lady has been diagnosed with dementia. the couple celebrated their 77th wedding anniversary this summer. further cementing their record as america's longest married first couple. and late supreme court

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we are today with an extreme house republican effort to recklessly steer our government towards a preventable shutdown. the reality is that when there is a shutdown, we're looking at a significant disruption of the lives of millions of americans. the speaker needs to do his job. he fought for it. you know, he negotiated for it. he needs to do the job, and get the job done. >> we'll speak to secretary vilsack in just a few moments. but first, i want to bring in nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett headache -- garrett haake for what's going on on the hill. where do things stand? >> reporter: some of these key negotiators have been in and out of washington all weekend. they seem to be trying to get something across the finish line, although i think we're in a situation where it's possible to confuse motion for progress here, and what i mean by that is house republicans are working on passing some full-year funding bills over the course of the

next few days that will not ever become law. they would never make it through the senate. they won't be signed by joe biden, they have steep cuts in them. they're hoping, the speaker is hoping that they can be something of a down payment to his most conservative members to help him pass a short-term funding bill that could conceivably keep the government open. he has been making ironically, some of the points you made from secretary vilsack and democrats saying it's important to keep the government open and paying our border patrol agents and military for the work they are doing. he's trying to convince, perhaps, a half dozen to a dozen of his most conservative members of this. these are people who have ham strung him for at least the last two weeks in the funding bill. we won't know if it has a chance of being successful until early this week. it's entirely possible we're in one of the situations where we have the house and senate working on incompatible plans until the deadline this weekend. >> garrett haake, thank you very

much for that. now from the white house, i want to bring in secretary of agriculture, tom vilsack, it's good to see you, mr. secretary. i was thinking we first met on the campaign trail in 2000 when you were governor of iowa. it's been quite a while. and you were actually at usda, i think, in 2013, when there was another shutdown, so you know what this is like. so, when you said in that press room that there will be a significant disruption for millions of americans, tell us exactly what you mean? >> reporter: let's start with the wic program, the women and infants program which provides nutrition assistance to moms and young children. nearly half of america's babies are participating in the wic program. if we don't have a budget, the program stops, the nutrition assistance stops. that means moms have to choose between formula and fruits and vegetables. they shouldn't have to make that choice. they should have an opportunity to have their children have both for a nutritious and healthy start. or how about the young couple that wants to buy a home.

they want to make a loan with the usda, they can't because the loan office is closed because of the shutdown. or the farmer who needs a marketing assistance loan to lock in profit. he can't or she can't finish that loan because the fsa local office and his county or her county is shutdown, closed because of the shutdown or how about the family that wants to visit the u.s. forest, one of our 195 million acres of beautiful forest and grasslands, they can't because the forests are closed. an impact on the rural communities, a loss of tourism dollars, i could go on and on and on, and i'm just one department, and here's the funny thing about this. if everyone's talking about making a deal, the deal has already been made. they made it last may with the debt ceiling. back where i come from, when you shake a hand and you basically make a deal, you got to follow through with the deal, and a majority of house republicans voted for that deal. a majority of house democrats voted for that deal. a majority of the senate voted for that deal.

so i don't know why we need a few deal, we need to make sure we finish the one that we started. >> let me play for you something, if i can, that we heard from house speaker kevin mccarthy today. take a listen. >> you don't have to keep the government open. why would they want to stop paying the troops or the border agents or the coast guard? i don't understand how that makes you stronger. i don't understand what kind of point you're trying to make. >> troops, border agents, coast guard and as you said, children who need food. it sounds like speaker mccarthy and the white house are using the same talking points. what do you see happening? how between now and sunday do both sides work together to get to a deal? >> well, again, i think it's the speaker's responsibility to get the deal done. the problem, the barrier, is a small group of house republicans that are standing in the way of getting this done. >> but if you're not going to move, then are democrats willing

to move? is there some sort of negotiation that's going on right now that you're aware of? >> the negotiation already took place, that's why we have the debt ceiling deal. that's why we agreed, as a congress and administration to a number of budget reductions, small budget reductions that wouldn't compromise the capacity of a program like wic. what the house republicans are proposing, just so you know is for the first time in 25 years not funding wic at its full level. that's the first time in 25 years. it's always been supported in a bipartisan way. they're not going to fund the firefighter pay increase that's necessary for us to keep guys on the job fighting the fires. we've had 44,000 fires in the western part of the united states already this year. i mean, what is the sense of that? we made a deal. just finish the deal. >> what's your sense of it? look, i know you don't have a crystal ball, but you have been through it before. you've been in government on a lot of different levels.

does this get done before sunday, and if it doesn't, will there be enough public pressure for all of the reasons you have laid out to turn that around fairly quickly. what do you see happening? >> i think it ought to get done. when people fully appreciate and understand the magnitude of the impact, of the disruption that this causes, just even to federal employees, when you talk about people not getting paid. that has an impact not just on families but on the communities in which the families live, it is economic development that is lost. it is grocery stores that won't do business, small businesses that won't get paid. the multitude and rippling effect is rather significant and if people understand that and fully appreciated it, they would get to work, recognize a deal has been struck. they would live up to the deal, and we would say a message to the american people that, yes, we can get our work done. it's baffling to me. >> agriculture secretary, tom

vilsack, we appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. thank you. >> thank you. breaking news from a donald trump campaign stop in south carolina. that's where his spokesman just tweeted that the former president brought a glock handgun. this was at the palmetto state armory just a short time ago. we just got this video in. a little tough to make out, but if you listen closely, you can actually hear the gun owner talking about the glock and trump saying, he wants one. let's listen. >> that's a glock. a glock actually did that, and these are actually great sellers for us. >> do you sell them with the picture? >> we do. it comes exactly like this from glock. . >> wow. >> they sell well, huh? they like me. >> they like you. >> sir, this one. >> i want to buy one. >> now, nbc news has not confirmed the purchase of the gun, the pool covering the former president did not see the actual purchase, but what you saw in that video was congresswoman marjorie taylor

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for the very first time today, hawaii residents were allowed back into lahaina to see what was left of their homes. seven weeks after those deadly wildfires killed at least 97 people. residents only have a limited amount of time. those visits are supervised and only allowed between 8:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. today and tomorrow. local nonprofits are providing masks and protective equipment because the ash could contain asbestos and other hazards. emergency officials on the ground say they will provide space for families to grieve their losses privately. there's a new poll out now by the associated press signaling that recent dangerous extreme weather is leading more americans to shift their opinions on climate change. 87% of americans now say they have experienced at least one extreme weather event in the last five years. up 8 percentage points just from april. and the majority of them, 64%,

now say climate change is to blame. and that's going to do it for us this hour. tonight, rachel maddow sits down with former white house aide cassidy hutchinson for her first live interview since serving as a key witness in the january 6th hearings. tune in "the rachel maddow show" tonight. and for "chris jansing reports" reports every weekday at 1:00 p.m. eastern. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. good to be with you. i'm katy tur. there are only so many options for speaker kevin mccarthy to avoid a government shutdown before saturday at midnight. this week he's trying to get hard line conservatives on board by relenting to demands with a series of spending bills with steep cuts. the hope is that