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fair and just deal for our members. we remain on strike. we will not speculate for schedule or next steps. >> i'm hoping end of october i'm done walking this line, even though i love it, but my feet are tired, i'm ready to get back to work. >> reporter: today, thousands of writers can do just that. hollywood now one big step closer to reopening. >> chloe melas, thank you. we've got a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports." let's get right to it. ♪♪ at this hour, dozens of senators now calling on bob menendez to resign as the new jersey democrat walks out of court with his wife after pleading not guilty to sweeping bribery charges. tragedy in baltimore, a tech ceo who was on the forbes 30 under 30 list found dead in her apartment. and now an urgent man hunt for a suspect who officials say should never have even been on the
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streets. betting big on michigan, donald trump heading to that critical battleground state while his rivals duke it out at the debate. and the nightmare for anyone dreaming of owning their own home. low inventory colliding with record high interest rates. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. we start with senator robert menendez pleading guilty to briby charges, just as we got new reporting that he previously blocked a law that could have ended his alleged scheme years ago. nbc's ken dilanian has more on that story for us. ken, what more can you tell us? >> chris, back in december of 2020, there was bipartisan movement behind an effort to reform the foreign agent's registration act, which is a 1938 law requiring that anybody who's representing a foreign government trying to influence the american government has to general and disclose their activities. it's a pretty thorough law, but it's not widely enforced and there are some weaknesses in it.
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and a group of senators, both republicans and democrats have come up with a plan to beef it up. and senator charles grassley, republican, brought it to the senate floor, asked for unanimous consent, and thought that it was going to go forward. but robert menendez stood up and blocked it. he objected. he single handedly prevents the passage of this legislation that had support from members of his own party. at the time he said it was because he thought he believed in reforming the law but thought it needed more consideration. now we know that according to this indictment, he was engaged in an illegal bribery scheme that included allegations that he was secretly aiding the government of egypt. and the egyptian american businessman who he's accused of accepting bribes from and helping with his business was meeting with egyptian government and intelligence officials and even said in a text message to an egyptian general, referring to senator menendez as our man. so it raised questions about whether this was an egyptian government effort to influence u.s. policy.
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it certainly had the effect of influencing the chairman of the foreign relations committee, and this effort to beef up the laws that would have tried to get it disclosing some of that conduct was blocked by the very senator now accused of selling his office, essentially, to help egypt, chris. >> ken dilanian, thank you. and in just the last 30 minutes, we learned from senator mark warner that senator menendez does plan to address senate democrats during their party lunch tomorrow. it will be the first time menendez has faced that group, and of course we'll be watching to see whether senate democrats who have yet to call for his resignation make any announcements after hearing from him directly tomorrow. now to the manhunt for a violent repeat offender wanted in the murder of a 26-year-old tech ceo. gary grumbach is following that story. what do police have to say about the suspect and the victim? >> it has now been more than 24 hours since police found
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26-year-old in her apartment dead from blunt force trauma, and there's a search warrant out for the arrest of the suspect by the name of jason billingsley, a 32-year-old from the baltimore area, and he has quite a wrap sheet as you can see there. wanted for first-degree murder in this case, but he's been arrested on sex offense and assault charges and robbery charges, and got out of jail just last october after spending more than a decade behind bars. listen to the warning the police chief in baltimore gave to the community last night. >> we implore residents to be aware of your surroundings at all times. this individual will kill and he will rape. he will do anything he can to cause harm. please beware of your surroundings. our thoughts and prayers are with the loved ones of ms. lapierre, and mr. maxwell. >> the victim here, she was at the top of her game. she was a 26-year-old tech startup ceo.
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the mayor of baltimore, brenda scott said he knew her well, they worked together on a number of different projects, and she was something who was named, as you said, on the 30 under 30 list just this year. she had a long successful life ahead of her. her family is calling her an inspiration in a statement. chris. >> what a tragedy, gary grumbach, thank you for that. donald trump is back in the business of counter programming, skipping tonight's republican debate in favor of a rally in the battleground state of michigan. nbc's vaughn hillyard is there. what are we expecting from this visit tonight, vaughn? >> reporter: right, chris, this is an extension of politics and the labor movement in america. it's not lost on anybody when you go back to the '60s. rfk joining the likes of caesar chavez, to 1981 when ronald reagan fired 11,000 public workers, air traffic controllers who were out on strike and part of a union, and you come back
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here today. donald trump, he's not taking part in the second gop presidential debate tonight at the ronald reagan library in california. instead, he's going to be joined by workers here in macomb county, michigan, who are out on strike. to note, he is going to be speaking at a nonunion manufacturing plant. because for donald trump, this is not so much about being pro union as it is in his words about being pro worker. there's history of donald trump in his four years in office. when you look at the national labor relations board and the labor department under his administration, he gave greater power to employers, rolling back abilities for workers to unionize or be considered direct employees, not contractors of the companies, which impacted overtime work as well as compensation. and his administration tried to pressure, yes, auto manufacturers, but there were auto operators that shut down on his watch here in michigan, ohio, maryland. there was no mass wave of new jobs or manufacturing in the midwest.
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when it comes to the 2024 presidential election, and if he is the republican general election nominee, it's going to be important to the state of michigan, and that's what brings him here today. take a listen to a few of the workers we talked to about his visit. >> you can't bad mouth and then come back and say, okay, then, i want your guys' support. i mean, i'm not dogging on any president, but i'm just saying a lot of things you say in the past will come back and haunt you. >> he's pro united states worker, u.s. worker, and he's against evs, he thinks that's what's putting us out of business, hurting the business, i think he's right on that to an extent. >> unless he's giving free places to his hotel in vegas, i could careless. >> reporter: in 2020, donald trump won one out of three union household members in the state of michigan, according to exit polling. you heard from the second gentleman, the second worker on
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strike, he said he would vote for donald trump over joe biden in the november 2024 election. you heard him mention electric vehicles. this has been a sticking point that donald trump has repeatedly come back to, citing the biden administration's investment in electric vehicles, loans and tax incentives that have been given to auto manufacturers, returning to electric vehicles. we should expect him to hit on that tonight. of course, part of this is the fact that electrical vehicle making it takes fewer work ers and around the country when you look at tesla's company, nonunion company, the workers that work on the electric vehicles compared to gas vehicles have lower hourly pay and that is of course of concern. the biden administration pushes back and says in marshal, michigan, there's a $3.5 billion electric vehicle battery plants in which construction has began and the biden administration, especially if they were given a second term would continue to invest in not only investment
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vehicle plants but battery manufacturing in the state. there's a lot of nuance when it comes to manufacturing, and the plants here, and that's why you see not only joe biden in the states but donald trump trying to make his case to the workers here on strike, chris. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you so much. potential home buyers are facing an unprecedented pinch as the supply of homes plummets to historic allows but interest rates and prices rise to new highs. cnbc's morgan brennan joins us for cnbc on msnbc. not a great time if you're someone looking to buy a home. give us the facts. what do we know about all of these numbers? >> yeah, chris. you said it when you said unprecedented. it's unprecedently hard. i do not use that term lightly. a perfect storm of low supply of homes for sale, rising interest rates and rising home prices. just this afternoon, the consumer financial protection bureau releasing a report that average home loan payments rose
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46% last year. mortgage interest rates just hit a level that we have not seen since 2000. the average contract interest rate for a 30-year fixed rate mortgage with a conforming loan balance, that increased last week to 7.4% from just a week earlier. mortgage rates have jumped as the federal reserve signals it will hold interest rates higher for longer. that has sent treasury yields soaring. mortgage ratings take their queue from the treasury markets. demand has plummeted to a 27-year low, down 1.3% last week, versus the previous week. down more than 25% compared to this time last year. it's also leading to a fall, a recently renewed fall in new home sales as well. and yet, despite all of this, and this is what makes in market unprecedented, while higher rates historically pressure home prices, there's such an
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imbalance between supply and demand, a dearth of housing inventory that prices are still climbing. the s&p national home price index just yesterday said home prices set a new record in july. and we're seeing this, chris, despite the fact that many people, particularly first time home buyers are going pushed ouch the market. key question here, what breaks this dynamic and how much does this factor into inflation that is so much higher than the fed would like to see it right now. >> we're going to come back to you for those answers. if you have them by tomorrow, that would be great. >> i'll get to work on it. the senate has a plan to avert a government shutdown, but is it dead on arrival in the house? republican congressman bob good of the budget committee will join me in 60 seconds. he budgetl join me in 60 secos.nd
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because that's where the senate has come up with a bipartisan deal, and sparing millions of americans of going without a paycheck through mid november. the problem is there's no guarantee it can pass the house where the republican majority passes deep divisions and the demands of hard line conservatives. earlier today house majority leader steve scalise gave an update of where things stand with three days until the deadline. >> we're going to be focusing on not just properly funding the government but securing america's border. both of those debates need to happen this week. you're going to see a robust debate on the house floor all week through today, tomorrow, and as long as it takes. members are talking to each other in a different way right now because there's so much at stake. >> joining us now is republican congressman bob good of virginia. he is a member of the house budget committee. are folks talking to each other in a different way now? give us the lay of the land as
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you see it, congressman. >> it was interesting, you were talking a moment ago about housing demand and interest rates. all of that is called by the bad biden, pelosi, schumer policies, the record inflation costs by the unprecedented level of spending. the days of reckless spending without consequence are over, and now with inflation, the biden fed is raising interest rates, young americans trying to buy their first home and the senate plan you referenced a moment ago is a plan to perpetuate the suffering of the american people, the policies under which the american people are dealing with grocery prices so high, utility prices, gas prices and housing prices i just mentioned. >> it's a bipartisan plan, congressman, so are you saying that the republicans in the senate who backed this and got together with democrats to make a deal are just plain wrong? >> yes, they are. and the bipartisan plan last year, the $1.7 trillion spending
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bill was said that it would cost 1.7 trillion. as you know, we're on track for a $2.2 trillion deficit to further stick it to the american people now that we've reached 33 trillion in national debt. we're not going to perpetuate that harm in the house. we're not going to vote for that terrible deal for the american people that simply extends the policies that are destroying the country, and, again, under which the american people are suffering. >> so what do you make of what's happening on the house side? congressman matt gaetz says the house has been poorly led by mccarthy, he seemed to indicate he's on the verge of filing a motion to vacate to kick mccarthy out? where do you stand on that? >> he's correct on the sense that january the speaker battle was about not doing what we have always done and getting what we've always gotten and not being where we are today. the speaker battle was about not passing major spending bills with the majority democrat votes and a republican majority in the house and the speaker committed in order to become speaker to return us to precovid spending, we voted to that effect in
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april. he should have led the republican conference in that unity in june, july and august to pass the spending bills. now we have a crisis of the calendar created by the speaker's failure to lead. as members have come together, trying to pass our bills. hopefully we'll have five bills passed out of the house. the senate has no bills. hopefully five bills out of the house this week which would fund about 73% of the government including the priority for the federal government of national security and national defense and another week or two into october to finish our spending bills, and that's what we ought to do. that's what speaker mccarthy promised the american people and the republican conference when he became speake >> let's talk about what happens to americans in the meantime. beyond the immiate effects on ur constituents, virginia republicans are fretting about voters taking out their anger on the gop in november's state elections if there's a shutdown. are there consequences, i mean, first of all, we know there are consequences on people who will
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not get their bills paid, but what about the political consequences in your own state? >> as i'm sure you know, 85% of operations continue. only about 15% of the government actually shuts down, what's considered nonessential. federal employees are back paid whatever pay is delayed. >> what do you do in the meantime, a great number of americans live paycheck to paycheck. >> we ought to execute on the difference we promised the american people would make. virginia republicans, delegates and senate candidates need republicans in congress to show the way and do what we said we would do and be who we say we are. >> so you don't think that the people who will not get paid and who live paycheck to paycheck, you think it's okay to have that as a casualty for you see as a greater good? >> i just told you, we should have passed our spending bills in june, july and august. we shouldn't have created a
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crisis of the calendar. it's interesting how the question is always why are house republicans going to shut down the government. why aren't you asking why chuck schumer is shutting down the government by not agreeing to what the american people elected a house to do. >> they have a plan right now, and in the meantime, i want to ask you about what's going to happen tomorrow. your colleagues will hold an impeachment inquiry into president biden. you have a different take when it came to then president trump tweeting back in january of 2021, impeachment is not a path toward a unified solution. if it was divisive in the wake of january 6th, why do you support it now against president biden? >> the president ought to be impeached because of the border alone. the border invasion that he is intentionally facilitated on the american people. this is his plan to facilitate
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million illegals who invaded the country. its the respondent of the u.s. government to protect the states of the invasion. the evidence is already there. never in the history of the country has our own president done more to harm the united states intentionally than what he's done on the border. i've signed ton to impeachment articles previously. that said the biden crime family that needs to be investigated. you have growing evidence, whether it's e-mails, visit history, travel history, shell accounts, bank records, all of that needs to be investigated further. i support the president doing that. sadly as you noted a moment ago the democrat majority in the house set the bar phonily low, let's impeach president trump on a phone call, he wanted to have an investigation into burisma, and it's president biden who bragged about getting the prosecutor fired in turn for a billion dollars in foreign aid. >> we will see because right now
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there are lots of republicans who admit the evidence isn't there. congressman bob good, we like to get both sides on the air. thank you for coming on. appreciate it. >> thank you, chris. good to be with you. will this gop debate be a key moment in the race for second place? but first, a striking new psa on what would have been the 18th birthday of one of the victims of the sandy hook massacre. daniel barden was one of the 26 seven-year-old children shot and killed in that school in 2012. the nonprofit sandy hook promise is out with a new message aimed at underscoring how important it is to take threats of gun violence seriously, but in a twist, this new psa stars some of our country's funniest comedians. >> so first day of school, last day of your lives. >> i want to kill people. >> bang bang, you're dead. >> i set the date.
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today, as donald trump's rivals prepare to take the stage, is tonight's gop debate the key moment in what is clearly a race for second place? seven candidates see opportunity tonight, but conventional wisdom is that any chance of beating trump will only come if he has a single opponent. and that's what donors will be watching for tonight. will they see a candidate worth putting their money behind? and here's one more bit of conventional wisdom. time is running out. if trump is going to be denied the nomination, a long shot at best, another candidate is going to have to step up and take hip
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on soon. nbc's dasha burns and steve patterson are both in simi valley, california, site of tonight's debate. and we're joined by former republican congressman, charlie dent. good to have all of you here. steve, you have been speaking to republican women about the candidates they're looking at. what are they telling you? >> this is very much the party reagan built, especially here in california, we're 2 miles from the library. the legacy of ronald reagan looms large. it is more centrist republicans, moderate republicans, with more moderate takes on key issues. that does not, however, mean, according to the republicans i spoke to that they won't vote for whoever the nominee is, even if that means voting for donald trump for the first time or the second time. it also means, though, that they are looking at this field, those seven candidates on stage, and
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hoping that somebody break outs that is more prez dental, keys in on issues harder that they would like to see person nominated. if i'm really honest, they're hoping that person, according to the republican women that i spoke to is nikki haley. not only do they love her message, they love the way she's presenting that message. also, like a lot of democratic women felt that hillary clinton's candidacy was essential, and minorities and younger people felt that obama's campaign was essential. they felt she is essential, so much so, and so impassioned that one of i spoke broke down in tears talking about it. listen to this. >> she speaks to me, not because she's a woman, yes, i'm glad as a woman that she is as strong as she is, but it's refreshing because she just speaks what she knows and what she knows she can do. >> i would vote for nikki haley. i want to be able to look my
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daughter in the eye and say i voted for a female president so she can be proud of me as her mom. >> reporter: and i asked if they felt that strongly about another candidate. the fact that trump is not going to be there influence you, does january 6th influence you, and they said of course, but they want somebody that can win. that is the most essential thing to republican voters here in california. back to you, chris. >> dasha, that brings you to ron desantis who actually before he got into the race, people thought he was the one who could win, right, what are you hearing from his campaign about what he plans to do because those donors are watching. >> not only are donors watching, chris, and of course this is in some ways a race for money, but voters are watching, and, you know, you can argue about general election debates and whether or not they really have an impact. but when it comes to these
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primary debates, they are really critical becau there are fewer people in fewer places that really need to be convinced here. they are paying much more attention than average voters. you're talking about voters in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina. they are tuned in, as we're headed into the big season ahead of those caucuses in january. and so what happens tonight absolutely matters, and for desantis, especially, because he's seen the biggest sort of slip and slide in the polls over the summer months. what we're seeing from his campaign, over the weekend, they released a memo to donors and supporters. in it they criticize former president trump for his strategy in iowa and other states, for his position on abortion in that interview with our colleague kristen welker, and last night, governor desantis went on fox news and hit trump harder than we have heard him before though he was kind of goaded by the host to go after him a little bit. we might be seeing a harder line on trump from desantis than we have seen before.
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at the same time, his campaign thought the last debate was a success because he didn't get into the fray in the same way that some of the other candidates did. they were expecting that desantis was going to get attacked. he didn't. in some ways that might have been a downside because if you're not getting attacked, maybe that means you're not a threat, but they felt like it allowed him to sort of stay focused on his message. it seems like they're going to maybe try to avoid going after some of the other candidates, stay focused on what they keep saying which is that it's a two-man race, and they need to really try to prove that in the polls and really the critical coming weeks. that's the case they're going to try to make tonight, and according to the campaign, really try to stay laser focused on the message that he's been handing on the campaign trail. >> charlie, is there any way this is a two-man race or is ron desantis's staff kidding themselves? >> this is not a two-man race by any means. in fact, ron desantis has been slipping in the polls, and continues, even after the first debate where they thought they
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did well. he hasn't gained traction. nikki haley gained a little bit. ramaswamy has dropped a little bit. it's incumbent upon these candidates. one of them has to try to emerge as the alternative because there is not one right now. they are far behind. they are running for second place. at some point, they're going to have to tear the bark off the front runner. that's donald trump. second place is last place in a primary in this system, so at this point, if i were giving advice to these candidates, they're going to have to attack the lead dog and somehow resonate. i'm curious to see if any of the republican candidates take on trump over the abortion issue where he walked back a little bit on abortion politics. i'm anxious to see if mike pence or desantis tries to take him on on abortion, which is not a popular issue, clearly, with the general electorate, but might think they can get some traction there. >> it's hard to get traction for folks to watch a primary debate without donald trump. let's be honest about this,
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right. so it becomes about what are the sound bytes, what gets played the next day. what are you going to be watching for, charlie? >> i want to see which one can capture lightning in the bottle. nikki haley had a pretty good debate last time but hasn't translated to a big surge in the polls. she's doing well. these people are all stuck in the pack with similar numbers, but i want to see if somebody's going to actually tonight, try to drive a hard contrast with donald trump, with an aspirational message, at the reagan library, a very aspirational politician. who's going to capture that message, and also attacking the former president, you have to give a reason to fire donald trump right now. they haven't articulated that case. and then they have to ask to be hired. one of these folks has to breakthrough. i think it's going to be nikki haley, frankly, she has some
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charisma, and i think a lot of people are attracted to her as a candidate because she has a message, and presents well, and she's looking beyond the primary, which may not help her tonight, but i don't know that there's another alternative at this point. >> former congressman charlie dent, dasha burns, steve patterson, it will be an interesting night. the major abortion case that could up end a critical election in ohio. we'll tell you what's at stake next. but first, a new oscar is on the way for legendary "gone with the wind" supporting actor winner, hattie daniels. it will be presented to howard university at a ceremony in washington, d.c. this sunday celebrating mcdaniels' life and legacy, her historic win, and reuniting her prize with the long running hbcu. we'll be right back: cing their deli meats fresh. that's why the new subway series subs are proffered by this qb. and proffered by his old backup qb. and if we proffer it, we know you'll proffer it too.
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right now, ohio supreme court is weighing whether to reinstate a ban on abortions at six weeks, that's before most women know they're pregnant. complicating matters, the case comes just weeks before ohioans will vote on a ballot initiative that would enshrine abortion rights in the state's constitution. joining me to break it down, lisa rubin, msnbc legal analyst. so potentially the supreme court could rule on a six-week abortion ban and voters vote to
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enshrine abortion rights in the constitution. this sounds very messy. >> it sounds incredibly messy, and that's because it is. if the ohio supreme court were to reinstate the heart beat ban, that reinstatement could potentially be shortived. as you note on november 7th, ohio voters will come to the ballot to dermine whether or not to amend their constitution to enshrine abortion rights up to the point of fetal viability with exceptions thereafter if necessary to save the life or health of the mother. >> ohio is going to be the only state to vote directly on abortion in 2023. there are lots of folks who are going to be going to the polls next month. there was a fight over language for this particular ballot initiative, specifically the use of the phrase unborn child. talk about why in these kinds of cases it becomes a huge and consequential fight over how that appears on a ballot. >> absolutely. so polling shows about 58% of
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ohio voters favor this initiative right now. but of course you and i both know that abortion rights is so much about framing sometimes. the way the ballot initiatives proponents want to phrase is that ohio women would have the right to have an abortion up to 22 to 24 weeks, and if necessary, doctors could decide that an abortion would be allowable at later times. the opponents on the other hand, want to frame it differently. they basically want to say that the initiative would allow abortion at all times and would allow the abortion of an unborn child, and that might give some voters some pause to see it framed in terms of an unborn child rather than a fetus or just around a woman's right. >> and if you look ahead, the u.s. supreme court could be taking up potentially an abortion pill case when it returns for its term, next week, i think? >> it is, on monday. >> tell us about that case. >> the mifepristone case is one that we've seen move its way
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from a district court in texas to the fifth circuit court of appeals which curtailed that ruling. the effects of both rulings is on hold until the supreme court either determines one way or the other to honor the ruling or overturn it or deny they won't take the case at all. they deny certiorari, and whatever that ruling is in the fifth circuit will take effect. the question is how many women will have access to mifepristone if at all? a district court in texas decided the fda's two-decade long approval of mifepristone should be overturned. an appeals court said, no, not quite, but let's roll it back, and we're only going to allow mifepristone use to seven weeks. we won't allow mail order prescriptions of mifepristone, particularly in an environment post roe. abortion pills are a major access point for reproductive rights in this country, particularly in states that
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don't allow abortion. >> exactly what we all predicted would happen with the overturning of roe. lots and lots of discussions about court cases. thank you so much, lisa rubin, always good to have you here. a federal judge just threw out a texas law that activists feared would ban drag shows and imprison performers. the 56-page ruling concludes that the law's quote chilling effect on speech in general outweighs any hardship on the state of texas. similar laws targeting drag are hitting legal walls nationwide. bans in arkansas and florida blocked by lawsuits, and tennessee's was struck down as unconstitutional. coming up, a wild night of looting as a group of young people tear through retail stores in philadelphia, taking everything they can. we've got a live report on the damages. and the nation's first pet may have, let's say, a whole lot of work to do. the latest incident that landed biden's german shepherd
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bride and groom were on the dance floor. an investigation to find out exactly what happened is now underway. in washington, the president's dog is proving yet again his bark isn't worse than his bite. biden's 2-year-old german shepherd commander is back in the dog house after biting yet another secret service staffer. it's the 11th incident in just the past arand it's gaining both internatittenon and derision. the "new york post" reports, quote, many of the secret se agents reported being attacked without provocati. with multiple agents desperately grabbing nearby objects, such as chains and chairs to block the dog from inflicting further damage. as vanity fair puts it, the first pup sees an open invitation to keep munching on flesh. i want to bring in nbc news who's correspondent mike memoli. eleven incidents now, you know, "vanity fair" and other places had some humorous takes on it.
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i'm sure this is being treated as serious business. what happens now? >> reporter: chris, we have heard from time and again, people who have held the office of president of the united states, how isolating the presidency can be, and we heard the old expression, if you want a friend in washington, get yourself a dog. there's no indication at this point that the president is prepared to part with commander in the way he had to part with another white house k-9 that of course being major biden after similar rash of biting incidents. what we're hearing from the white house through the office of the first lady is that the white house staff is continuing, the first family, i should say, is continuing to work on ways to help adapt commander to what they call the unpredictable home that is the white house and the white house grounds, and that they appreciate all those who work at the white house, staff and the secret service agents and the like who are part of
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that. this really speaks to what seems to be an issue here. commander is just 2 years old, not quite a puppy. still a young dog and who has only known the white house as a home. president biden, during his time, and vice president had a german shepherd, champ at the vice presidential residence. what we have heard from animal experts is this sign of bight can be a sign of fear or anxiety. and it's an unusual place. they're continuing to try to work to make this a happy home for commander but also those who have to interact with him, and it can be a bit of a distraction for the white house. obviously the president focused on a meeting with his technology council today and would rather us talk about that. this is a part of life at the white house and the occasional distraction of having a first pet here. >> unlike you and the three years i spent covering the white house, i never had to consult a
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k-9 expert. thank you for doing so for us, mike memoli, appreciate it. police have arrested at least 30 people after a wild night of looting in philadelphia left an apple store, foot locker and a lululemon store in ruins. nbc's rehema ellis is in philly. what more do we know about what happened here? >> reporter: i can tell you the outcome of what happened as you pointed out, chris, they have arrested some 30 people. they tell us that the majority of them were adults, and i think they said that three of them were juveniles, and they have been charged with burglary and theft. look at the apple store behind me, the windows are covering. this is one of the store they took phones and ipads. just down the street, a lululemon, mannequins toppled, and that store is also closed. authorities tell us 18 liquor stores in the city have been closed and this was in center city, philadelphia. authorities say after they got things relatively under control
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here, there have a move to north philly and the game stop and walmart were targeted there. listen to what people are saying about this kind of lawlessness. take a listen. >> it feels like it's a little bit overwhelming, in a sense, what can they do. especially if it's a flash mob or a larger incident, it feels like it's a little out of control. >> i'm very cautious, but i'm not afraid. >> reporter: and authorities say they think that this was a crime of opportunity, as a result of the fact that there was a peaceful protest here yesterday. some people who were upset over the dismissal of charges against philadelphia police officer who had been accused in the shooting death of a man here in philadelphia, a 27-year-old man. but they said that protest was peaceful and that some people, they believe, took advantage of that opportunity and created mayhem here on the streets of center philadelphia. chris. >> rehema ellis, thank you for that. well, it is a friendship
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that's forged by the shared courage to speak out. in an msnbc exclusive, form nixon aide, alexander butterfield who revealed the existence o. white house recordings to congress during the watergate scandal. he shared a message for cassidy hutchinson, the former trump aide turned star witness at the january 6th hearings. hutchinson has publicly said butterfield was a major inspiration for her as she made the decision to come forward with allegations about the trump administration. so here was his message to her. >> you come across as though you're speaking from the heart. and that's very clear. >> hutchinson says she was inspired to reach out for butterfield after seeing him appear on "the last word" wit lawrence o'donnell. that's going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us every weekday right here on msnbc.
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♪♪ good to be with you. i'm katy tur. bob menendez pleaded not guilty, posted a $100,000 bond, and walked out of criminal court a free man who still, by the way, has the title of united states senator. but the sheer number of reporters who were waiting for him outside should tell you that menendez's grip on his new jersey seat isn't exactly tight. over the past several hours, four more of his democratic colleagues in the upper chamber have called for his resignation, bringing the grand total of senators, by the way, to 30. and while menendez says he's done nothing wrong, the evidence laid out by the prosecution is detailed. and the circumstances surrounding his relationship with egypt is

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