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answer. countdown to shutdown. house speaker kevin mccarthy's chaotic caucus has less than 16 hours to hammer out a deal, take the government open, and millions of federal employees paid. we are live on capitol hill with the down to the wire negotiations. plus, we will talk to a single mother of four who works for the government who is left in financial limbo if congress does not get its act together. plus, remembering senator dianne feinstein. new tributes pouring in for the longest serving female senator in female history who passed away at the age of 90. a look back at the life and legacy of this pioneering law maker ahead. and later on the show, scout of this world. the special girl scouts troop showing that kindness and acceptance knows no borders. all of that and more is coming up. all of that and more is coming up a good saturday morning to you. all i'm katie phang.

we begin today's show with the government shutdown becoming more likely with each took of the clock. what's becoming even more obvious as the republican house majority doesn't have a game plan to extend government funding passed a critical deadline of midnight tonight. president biden says that gop house speaker, kevin mccarthy, made a terrible bargain to retain power over his caucus. scarred by radical republicans who are hard-line holdouts. as mccarthy tries to get a handle on his own -- he faces political gridlock and failed deals from both chambers. and just about five hours, the senate is expected to take up a vote on a stopgap spending bill to keep the government open to november 17th. that appears to be destined to fail in the house. yesterday, a separate gop stopgap bill filled miserably on the house for. they averted a shutdown and adding federal reports. it's not just those employees,

we all will pay the price if the house can't do a job, says president biden. >> the house fails to fulfill its law to fund the government by tomorrow, we will have filled all our troops. >> nbc news capitol hill correspondent, julie tsirkin, is live for us this morning. julie, as always, it's good to see you. all eyes are on the senate for a procedural vote on the stopgap bell at 1:00 today, but what's the real value if that bill can get any support from the house, and the house can get itself together? >> well, remember, senators have been talking all week that their stopgap measure actually has bipartisan support. when you hear from majority leader schumer, he's been saying, look, our bipartisan bill has the votes. you put it on the house floor, it will pass. that will evert a government shutdown. things are not as simple as they see, right? yesterday, we reported that a group of senate republicans

were huddle lane, conservative republicans were huddling in one of the most conservative republicans offices. senator mike lee, ron johnson, an effort to pass a two-week sea are without disaster relief, ukraine aid, and border security provisions. will that even fly for a full senate? i don't think so. that got struck down yesterday by democrats. now we're back to square is zero, essentially. that bill that the senate will take up today as a bipartisan one with ukraine. senate majority leader mcconnell had pushed for very much. we'll see if they can get it done ahead of the deadline, but you're right, it'll go nowhere in the. house it'll be dead on arrival. it's not palatable to house republicans. >> quickly, julie, before have to let you go, what kilometers tell you about this inevitable shutdown? i'm sure they're hearing from their constituents that it will have a direct impact on them as well. >> absolutely, and just a couple hours, republicans are going to come together. they're going to have a, median and they're going to see if they can pull another plan out of their back pocket to try to keep the government open.

here's what speaker mccarthy had to say yesterday about yet another plan that he's thinking enough to avert a government shutdown. watch. >> i think that if we had a -- we could probably move that through. the senate puts ukraine on their focuses on this, it can cause problems. >> here's the thing for mccarthy, there are still a handful of members no matter what he does that are not going to sign on to short term government funding bill. i'm talking about matt gaetz, some of those hard-line conservatives that are also threatening him from the speakership chair. mccarthy's in a real gamble here. he's been trying to make it work. as one senator told, me he's seen mccarthy pull a rabbit out of the half before when you got this beaker ship gavel in the first place. when he made the deal, to avoid the debt ceiling default. , here he is a group of house republicans who seem to not want to do anything to avoid a government shutdown. katie. >> julie tsirkin, thanks for getting us started. as always. so those deals that kevin

mccarthy -- and band of roddick over publicans to win the speakership after 15 votes, 're coming back. 21 farmer members of congress, including matt gaetz, marjorie taylor greene, not they're all taking. any progress on keeping the government funded. it's just the latest political blow to speaker mccarthy, even those within his own party, are publicly questioning if he has what it takes to hold on to the speakership. some republicans claim the battle to avoid a government shutdown is actually just between two people. kevin mccarthy and -- >> there's only one person that can cause the government shutdown, that's matt gates. he's a charlatan. as far as i'm concerned, when you are working with democrats to try to vacate the speaker, your joke. >> joining me now, democratic congressman, richie torres, a member of the financial services committee. congressman, it's so good to have you on the show. straight out the gate, do you

agree that representative matt gaetz is a charlatan? those words, not mine. that he is leading all of this chaos that were seen? >> well, house republicans have been captured by charlatans, by arsonists to our intention boarding down the leadership of their own party, the united states, the federal government. these people have no interest in governing. they are only objective is pure dysfunction and chaos. the problem is the whole republican party. there are two types of republicans in the house. there are the extremists, and then there are those who enabled extremists. you know, so-called moderate republicanism is not even an endangered species, it's extinct. it only takes one member to file a motion to vacate, to remove the speaker. that's kevin mccarthy, he lives in fear of his own removal. there has been nothing but chaos. house republicans have revealed themselves to be every bit as

chaotic, erratic, and lunatic as their lord and savior, donald trump. >> how are you working with republican colleagues to come to an agreement, and to keep the focus on the bigger picture? the people that are directly impacted by the republicans holding their paychecks hostage. >> well, there is a bipartisan compromise on the table. it has the support of the senate majority, it has the support of the senate minority leader, mitch mcconnell, it has the support of the house minority leader, hakeem jeffries. the only holdouts is speaker mccarthy, the house republicans are the obstacle to preventing a government shutdown. the house republicans shut will bring senseless suffering to the american people. it would affect 7 million women, children, infants. they will lose access to food, from the program. it will affect 5 million troops in federal employees. they will be forced to go without pay. it will effect 1.6 8 million

americans flying through airports every single day. moved it would just bring senseless suffering to the american people. people should keep in mind that the federal government represents 25% of the american economy. house republicans cannot shut down up to one fourth of the american economy without causing extraordinary damage to households and businesses across the country. >> you know, it's groundhog day because just last year we had the same issue. we were just inching our way, perilously, towards a government shutdown. into president biden to step in to be able to get something across the finish line. clearly, mccarthy is taking down any deals. he's not going to take down anything he should have, and he did like that. do you think it'll take president biden's hand in this to be able to get involved, to get, and to avoid, to get a resolution to avoid the shutdown? >> much we have a bipartisan support, we have bipartisan deal that has the support of president biden.

the burden falls on speaker mccarthy to worship support the bipartisan compromise on the table. the reality is, there is a civil war unfolded within the republican party, the republicans are fighting amongst themselves. they are rotting from within. me they are american people a paying a heavy price for the dysfunction, and the extremism of house republicans. >> congressman there are a number of people directly, impacted you, went through the numbers, their start a lane per. it's not just that government employees, some will have to work without a paycheck. they will affect your constituents, us, and these and america. what is your message if you can send one to speaker mccarthy to let him know that he is the one holding all of america hostage if this shutdown happens. >> i call upon my republican

colleagues to do what's best for the country. a government shutdown is not an obstruction, it will do an enormous amount of harm to an enormous amount of people. i'll give you a concrete example, one of the greatest challenges facing our country is the severe shortage of air traffic controls. house republican shutdown would exasperate the shortage of air traffic controllers, and endanger the safety of air travel in the united states. why on earth are house republicans plane russian roulette with the safety of air travel? this is not a game. we need to do what's right for the american people. >> i can't answer that question. republicans -- >> it's a pleasure to have you here, thank you for joining us this morning. tributes from around the world are pouring in for the longest serving female senator in u.s. history. democratic congressman and former san francisco mayor, diane feinstein, passed away at the age of 90 on friday. she was the oldest sitting u.s.

senator, but also the first of many to break gender barriers throughout her more than half a century long career. local and national politics. nbc news correspondent josh shows us how senator feinstein is being honored by people on both sides of the political aisle. >> hey, we are outside. more this is in san francisco. people have been coming by, paying their respects, dropping flowers off. this is huge news, both here in california, and of course, across the country. despite some calls in recent months for senator to resign because of her declining health, people truly, on both sides of the aisle, see her as a trail blazer. someone who paved the way for women in politics. here in san francisco, she's been an elected office for more than 50 years. many people here don't even know a world without dianne feinstein i've spoken with

people who have said that they have admired her since they were young children, they want to be like when they grew up. they see her as a fighter, and someone who has done so much for the country, and for california. every step of the way for feinstein, she's been the first. she was the first woman elected to san francisco board of supervisors back in 1969. she was the first female woman mayor of san francisco. then she was one of two women to be elected to the u.s. senate, the forced women to be elected to represent california back in 92 alongside barbara boxer. that was the year of the woman. when she got into the senate, she had so many accomplishments. certainly her work on gun control. she was able to offer the assault weapons ban which prevented certain weapons for ten years. the only member of congress to be able to push through a controlled weapons ban, a ban on controlled weapons. just really a remarkable

person. she's reaching across the aisle, who work with the lgbtq community. her work with the and byron meant. the reason that they have the joshua tree national park in california. so many people impacted by her. work the big question is what's next? who will replace her? all of those questions are going to come in the few days, as they are not tasked with replacing. her looking for an interim candidate. california is in the middle the big senate race here. right now, people in california are paying their respects to the icon that is diane feinstein. back to you. >> liz kreutz, thank you for that report. still to come, surviving the shutdown. the republican shutdown is not just political theater, it will have a devastating impact on the millions of federal employees who paychecks hang in the balance. after the break, a government employee tells me how she plans to make it through this shutdown. you're watching the katie phang

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with less than 16 hours, millions of federal workers are finding themselves in their paychecks facing possible financial peril. when that clock shrugs what a, i'm a workforce of 2.2 million will be working with pay, working without pay, or not working and not being paid. those are millions of real people, some moms and dads, some already living paycheck to paycheck. that's not something members of congress will have to worry about. here is freshman republican congressman, brendan williams, on continuing to get paid during the shutdown. >> will you accept that pay? >> i will. our job does not and in a shutdown. we don't get to stay home. we stay there and make it work. i don't think you're going to find a huge amount is sympathy

for people that have been furloughed or early retirements. >> it's the entitlement for me. hours later, after facing heavy backlash, williams, of course, reversed discourse and is now asking for his salary to be withheld drain and shut down. unfortunately, not something most of his fellow colleagues are planning to do as well. joining me now is one of those government employees who will be directly impacted by the shutdown. jessica lapointe, to claim specialist for the administration, and the president of american federation of government employees council. jessica, what have you been told by the social security administration to prepare you for what might be happening this evening? >> yes, thanks for having, me so we d immediate with the social security administration yesterday, and we were told that most field workers athe social security administration are deemed essential. that means that we will be going into work without a

paycheck, while the government has funding. >> you know, jessica, you are a single mother of four. you have a beautiful family, i've seen photos. telluriewers how this government shutdown is going to affect you and your family. >> soow it's going to directly affect me and my family, and i think that i'm synonymous with most federal workers, and most social security woers, we mostly live paycheck to paycheck, 60% of americans are living paycheck to paycheck. federal workers are no difference. so there is going to be a lot of bill tightening in our households, and households across the country, a federal workers who are forced to work without pay during this unknown time. we're going to be doing some auto withdrawal changes from our bank accounts, as our mortgage payments, certain car payments, that daycare permits are going to be coming out of auto withdrawal. we'll have to stop that, provide a letter to our lenders and creditors, letting them know abouthe shutdown, and

hopefully they'll be understanding. this is as we wait for our income to come in. >> jessica, back in 2013, i understand that you made it through a 16-day shutdown, when that happened. talk about what you had to do to be able to make it through the 16 days. >> well there was a lot of nervous waiting, our paycheck was delayed a couple days. that was overly, but we are expecting the shutdown to last much longer base in the dysfunction that were seen amongst a few people in congress. it is a lot of nervous planning. this time around, i am looking to have to suspends the vacation that i have plans, to have all resources available to make it through what is an undetermined amount of time without income security. >> do you anticipate maybe having to take loans, outscored borrow money to ensure you can make ends meet while the

shutdown happens? >> yeah i'm looking at all my options. in my personal bank account, i know government worker, social security, workers are doing the same. we're having conversations with family and friends to make sure that we have enough. we have a 24-page apathy federal workers between the private sector, so we make an average of 60,000 a year. we're just going to be looking to families and friends, looking to our loans, servicing options, maybe doing some retirement account withdrawals just to make sure that we have enough money and our bank accounts so that our credit isn't affected by not being able to pay our bills on time. >> you know, jessica, according to the federation of government employees, just some examples employees who were working without pa including you. 52,500 where you work at the social security administration. nearly 200,000 at the

department of defense, and 1300 at nasa. these are just some examples. you were deemed essential employee, meaning you're going to work 40 hours a week without any play for however long it takes for the government to be not, you know, in chaos, and actually get its act together. you talk about some of the sacrifices you'll have to make, but i want you to also talk a little bit about what you know is going to impact other americans. you're going to work without pay, but for example, osha is not going to do inspections. the apa will not do inspections. the federal government, in terms of the court system, it's only open for a couple of weeks. i know you're having this conversation about how it's not just, you it's also all of america that's going to feel the shutdown impact. >> that's correct. social security has been under funded for over a decade, so we're already dealing with long service delays. already dealing with the staff, a that is unprecedented. we're at our lowest staffing

levels in 25 years. this is only going to further exasperate our customer service crisis, the tradition crisis, as federal workers are going to be questioning their dedication to the civil service during this time, have been forced to work with income in security without the promise of a paycheck coming in on time. so we expect this shutdown, hopefully, to be temporary, but the effects will be long-lasting. they are the most vulnerable members of our society, they are already forced to wait way too long for services. most of our workers will be dedicated to answering phone calls regarding the shutdown. most americans are uncertain as to how their social security benefits will be affected. there are benefits that are going to be, service is that will be suspended, excuse, me not benefits, benefits will continue. services, some services will be suspended. so there's going to be a lot of

questions and confusion, and frustration that will have to do with federal workers not only in our personal, private, family, lives but in the american people who are confused by, that's the most vulnerable members of our society that are confused by this, worried about their own income security during this chaotic time. >> jessica, going to keep my fingers crossed that congress will get it together. more specifically, the republicans in congress, and that you won't be impacted by the shutdown. i'll take my hat off to you for leading your union, doing the work you're doing. jessica, lapointe thanks for joining us today. >> thank you for having me. >> still to come on the katie phang show, the first -- the trump codependent in -- plea deal in the georgia election interference case. meaux you're watching msnbc. ing msnbc. tic kenny. and, hi, i'm amanda. my scooter broke down. i went into a depression. (how do you feel about that?)

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rhetoric, once again, getting him into trouble. last, night federal prosecutors, jokes mid january six ks, reasserting the need for a gag order on the twice impeached, quadruple and idled, one term disgraced ex president. and a 22-page court filing, prosecutors highlighting several social media post by trump, attacking d.c. federal judge, tanya degrom, former vice president mike pence, and chief of staff chairman -- and postpone milley, who is a potential witness in the, case jumps as the general committed treason, and suggested that he should be executed. meanwhile, and major move in one of the utter criminal cases against the ex president. we have the first of what could beany plea deals in georgia's 2020 election interference case. let scott one of the 18 codefendants, pleading guilty to five misdemeanor counts of conspiracy to commit intentional interference with the performance of election duties. hall, a congressman, was hit with charges with the breach of

voting -- among the terms of his deal, he will be sentenced to five years he must testify truthfully and all for the proceedings of this case, which will be televised for the world to see. joining me now is barbara mcquade, nbc legal analyst, former attorney, michigan law professor at the university of michigan school of law, and the co-host of the -- it's always a magtf to the finish line, we never have enough time. let's start with the immediate news in fulton county. surprise plea taking yesterday afternoon, and over on the docket, scott hall, one of the 18 codefendants of donald trump took a plea, five misdemeanor counts. five years of probation. this testifying truthfully, and special condition of his probation, what does it mean to you? >> yes, this is a significant moment because oftentimes, when you see one defendant pleaded guilty, the dominoes begin to fall because it causes the other defendants to think idea

to get on the door to, because the deals don't get better as time goes on, they typically get worse. if you want this, deal we need to get it on it now. this may precipitate other guilty pleas. the other thing i think a significant is he has agreed to cooperate, in, fact, he even has the statement to prosecutors before the guilty plea. one of the things he's alleged to have done is to have 63 minute phone conversation with jeffrey clark, the former doj official, on january 2nd of 2021. that is right in that time when all of that craziness is going on inside the oj. so he potentially has some really explosive testimony to provide in this case. >> barb, on the more immediate event horizon, we have sydney powell on october 23rd. they, are there allegations in that indictment about paul's involvement with sydney powell, and county, and the election machines there. so what do you think of the fact that those defendants are going to trial, for their,

demands by the, line but that now you have scott, all tied out, that will likely be a huge statement. >> yes, in fact, i'm sure yesterday they were very alarmed. at least sydney powell, to see that he's cooperating. he's part of that same scheme. some on that same side will be able to provide information. so when a people to charge him with that scheme that they did not believe they already had evidence sufficient to beyond a reasonable doubt. it is so helpful, as you, now to have somebody on the inside to be a narrator. up to be able to connect out some of the documents and video footage, and other kinds of evidence they might have of this case to help a jury really understand how this scheme was working. i think it's a very significant event in that first trial. >> i'll also note that a grand jury also found very sufficient evidence when they turn the true bill as a pertains to scott, all sydney powell, et cetera. let's move further north, let's go to d.c..

that was a pretty scathing response in opposition that came from the government last night when it came to a gag order. you and i are very aware of first amendment privileges that exist for all u.s. citizens, including the former president, donald trump. i did find that the multiple citations that were made by special counsel jack smith's team in their filing highlighting how donald trump does doesn't keep his mouth shot, or he doesn't start posting things, especially that milley post. calling him guilty of treason, and calling for his execution. what we are thoughts about the successor, the likely success for the doj to get that very limited, gag order on october 16th? >> i think they make a compelling case. they cite these factual examples of some of the outrageous things donald trump's continues to say. you this could be intimidating witnesses, determining the jury pool, making it harder for the government to receive a fair trial. i also thought legally they made a compelling case.

they point out that although we both have amendment rights, the governments, and the, corbett is permitted to restrict those to certain circumstances that there is a compelling governmental interest, and if they are narrowly tailored to achieve that interest. so here are the interest in protecting witnesses, protecting victims, protecting the integrity of this trial. then narrowly terror enid so that he is not research from saying anything. he can still proclaimed his innocence if he wants. to stop him from going after the witnesses in this case, i think that's critically important. >> i want to ask, on october 16th, when the doj is in front of the judge, in donald trump's lawyers, their argument against this gag order, is going to be evidentiary in nature, or is it going to be arguments based upon the law in the that so far? >> i doubt we'll see any live witnesses, i think these documents that the justice department has included and it's briefs, and it's interesting, they use actual

screenshots of some of these statements, i think that is sufficient. imagine the government will rely on that. look at these things, we need a gag order, just to stop this from continuing. i think she has sufficient evidence based on this record already in the documents. >> i want you to put your judge hat on right now, if your judge chutkan, do you grant the doj's request for a gag order? or do you expect at the trial data line? >> yeah, i think it would be more inclined to break the order. if you expedite the trial, she is raise that before. if you don't want this to harm your campaign, here's an easy way out, let's get it over. with the heat does have due process rights. i think that law she has set a trial date. i doubt trump it up. i think she has an obligation to imposes-limited gag order. i can imagine a judge being very reluctant to do that with

somebody running for president. and some ways, he seems to be baytieh, not that this is just what he wants to make a point to her as being this unfair person, to put him in jail if she violates it. i think she has a obligation to -- and this process. >> two things i'll predict is a let you go, one, he's going to move to recuse her again. which he failed, by the way. to, you're going to come back when she does put him in jail. we'll discuss that. barbara mcquade, thanks for joining us. i appreciate it. >> thanks, katie. >> coming up after the break, corporate death penalty. donald trump's legal woes in new york this week just went from very bad to about as bad as they can be after a judge found him liable for fraud. the looming dissolution of all of his businesses in that state, and what it can mean for his questionable wealth. you're watching the katie phang show, only on msnbc. show, only on msnbc.

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correspondent at the messenger, adam klinesville. adam, you are about as excited as you can get when it comes all things trump in new york, especially, i know you've been in there in court. you've been following everything. let's talk about judge and groans ruling. it was a doozy. it was scathing. i think that is a undervalued adjective for this. let's talk about the real life implications. this was the summary judgment granted for letitia james. what is kind of the lay of the land then for next week? is there anything left to try starting on monday? >> there are six causes of action left to try that are basically going to determine how much money trump will oh in addition to this corporate death penalty that he is facing under the terms of the original. the a.g. ss, for 200 and $50 million in penalties, the disgorgement of ill gotten gains, and also, of the original lawsuits had asked for

an order barring trump, his sons, who are also defendants in the lawsuit, and his business associates, from ever serving as director is on the new york corporation. so this was, as you noted, katie, the word scathing doesn't come close to describing what this really needs. it's rare, it's known as a corporate death penalty. it's spells peril, potentially, for all of trump's new york businesses, and his empire, if he doesn't succeed in countering it on appeal. there is more to come. it could be that the former president, and real estate mogul, is out of business and new york under the injunctive relief proposed by this case. >> yeah, adam, some of the questions that have been popping up on social or the following. was to stop donald trump from just moving everything to another state? we know that he opened trump organization to delaware wall this was going on. judge and grand to say, hey, you're not going to be able to

move stuff over there, basically saying, you can't leave your assets to delaware. making sure that that didn't happen. must stop it from saying, i'm going to pick up my toys and go somewhere else? >> well, one of the things, and as you mention, katie, there was that trump organization to, that trump had to set up an early process. the justice ingrown put a stop to that. he basically had a court oppose monitor, harbor jones, who is a special master in michael cohen 's case awhile back. he was also a special master for rudy giuliani and the southern district of new york. she is still the court appointed monitor their. i'm sure the trump will have many arguments as to the corporate structure of his corporations, but if you do a close reading of that ruling, it says that some of the entities that this ruling applies to one of them owns 100% of the trump organization,

and other owns 100% of trump organization an llc. this is a blistering review, and one that is going to be one will hear about for a long time, as it pertains to the future of trump's business empire. >> look we only have about 30 seconds, so we do go to trial on monday, and this is a bigger left, whether or not trump actually shows up in person, in court, to be able to address this trial. this is a bench. child's no jury, it's just the judge. justice and grand. some of the witnesses include his kids. do you really expect them to show up and testify? >> they have been called, and they add more thing with regards to trump's own appearance tre he's told a separate federal judge in his case, rember, he filed a lawsuit against michael cohen, in par of the reasons we know of his stated

intentions to be here on monday is that he promised a federal judge in florida that he couldn't sit in this position in cohen's case because he had to be in court in new york. he didn't just make that, he made that promise to a federal judge that he'd be there. >> yeah, we're going to see whether or not he shows up, if not, he might have two federal judges. justice and grow, not a federal judge. into that mistake a few days ago. i made the mistake of colin just as a grand federal judge. i'm sure you wouldn't mind. i don't klaasville, away so smart and on the money. i appreciate you being here. thanks for being here. >> thank you for having, we katie. love being on the show. >> we'll be right back. >> we'll be right back built to command attention. it's not just a comfortable interior... it's a quiet refuge. they're not just headlights... they light the way forward.

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of the show. the world of goal scouts has always been a highlight in many young girls lives. scouting assad to help girls find their voices, and make it impact with issues that are important to them. that's why back in 2017, a single mom of five, who lost her home, decided to create a new true. the first of its kind, troops 6000, it's still for girls living in homeless shelters. they focus on other things the girl trump -- including going to camp, it's entirely free for those families, they've expanded to 20 shelter sites, then include more than 2500 girl scouts in adults. now they are opening their troops up to the influx of migrant children who are coming into the shelter system. joining me now, senior director of girl scouts of greater new york 6000. it's good to have you on the show, and very happy to see you.

you launch this particular troop in 2017, tell viewers what kind of impacts have you seen from the work you've been doing since that. >> thank you so much for having me, very happy to be here. we've definitely created such a incredible program, this giving that community, that they really need during this time. that sense of belonging. it's definitely been able to see girls who are able to connect with other, girls build those relationships, and working in with this, it's beautiful to see as they warn the importance of advocacy, and how building community can really bring benefits. >> your mission is to instill girls with confidence in character. these, girls they've had so many different traumas. how are the girl's cuts helping their mental, health unbeatable to give them the tools to allow them to thrive, and become

those people that they would like to be? >> absolutely, so this program actually has a social component. we have a social worker on site. connecting the, girls getting to know them as well, making sure that they have resources provided that they need to succeed, and these are really important things for us to ensure that our values, they have everything they need to feel comfortable, and participating in opportunities. you, know when our girls are doing anything, regardless of what those situations are, we're able to let them know that we, whether we can help you programmatically, or as far as resources and families, you know, it's very beneficial for them to have. there's a lot of times when we don't have that experience with some of the girls, we want to make sure that we're giving them tools in coping skills that they needed, not just for the girls, but for the families

as well, so our social workers, they're making sure that those relationships are built, those connections are kept, and that girls feel they have what they need to succeed. >> i have less than a minute, i just wanted to ask you, there is a rise of migrants coming into, new york city you're not leaving them behind, either instead, or expanding to include these young, girls and as of april of this, year more than 40% of the members of troops 6000 speak spanish as the primary language. what are you doing to adapt to the shift in demographics with the expansion to not only include unhoused of girls, but those who are here as a result of the migrant crisis. >> the troops 6000 miles to the sierra, we are starting at one of these huge sites right now. we currently have over 100 girls at that site, to being able to bring them together during this difficult time in their season, and give them that community that so important has been beautiful. they have never heard --

then this curriculum, it is completely in spanish, so the girls feel included. as well as culturally acclimated programs, their new environments, and all the things that they're going to need to know it's regards to vacate sure that we are remaining inclusive, and the girl scouts are there to guide with this social routine, and ensure the families also have the resources. it's very important for us to have that component, it's been helpful. >> i'm out of time, i would love to invite you to come back so we could talk a bit more about the program, my heart is out to you, look at these faces, you're doing so much. i invite our viewers to check it out. go aligned, see what you're doing, because you do aided in other cities as well. there's not just, new york thanks for joining us this morning. >> thank you. >> thanks to all of you for joining me this morning.

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