it for today. i am alicia menendez, i want to thank you for spending part of your saturday with us. follow the show on twitter, on instagram and on tiktok. we are at alicia on msnbc. we'll see you tomorrow here for more american voices. for now, i handed over to my colleague ayman mohyeldin. ayman, do you think it will happen in the next two hours? >> i was going to say, wild is not the word i would personally use. i respect your word choice. i think it's diplomatic of you,

i get it, but wild is not a word i would have gone with to describe -- i don't think i could say the word that i would personally say on air. >> i think what you have done is called out my naughtiness, that for me, this was a wild night. >> it certainly was, and it looks like it will be going on for a couple more hours. we don't have any indication that this will be resolved anytime soon. let's hope that something happens before midnight, otherwise, as you know, the government shutdown. >> good to see, you ayman. >> good to see you, my friend. enjoy the rest of your evening off. as we said, a few hours before a potential government shutdown, republicans and democrats reached a deal in the house that includes the 45-day continuing resolution with disaster relief funds, as well as an extension of the federal insurance program. of course, there was the faa reauthorization. the one thing not in there that seems to be the reason for this hold out, no ukraine aid at this moment. the senate is expected to post

on the house measure. it has been delayed for hours now by democratic senator, michael bennett, over his concerns about that ukraine aid being left out of d.c. are. bennett reportedly wants a promise of cook's consideration of aid to ukraine. the senator says the leadership is actually working on a ukraine commitment for just that, but a long delay could trigger a shutdown, if the senate does not reach a deal by midnight, as we said. we are now four hours from the government shutting down. let's cross over to nbc to nbc news capitol hill correspondent. all eyes on michael bennet and what is happening. call us what is happening at this hour, where you are and with the details that this whole thing is? >> for now, the stock continues. you hit a simple reason, or maybe not so simple, from a policy perspective, of why michael bennett is doing this, which is holding up the consideration and ultimate

passage of this continuing resolution, because there is no ukraine funding and it. that would have been a nonstarter for many on the house republican side. it's why it's not in this continuing resolution in the first place. but, of course, there is the idea that leadership on the senate side is working towards some sort of commitment that could get benny on board with anytime that they have left, allow them to avoid a shutdown and allowed them to circle back on ukraine funding. i think what is important now to remember is that this is a 45-day stopgap measure that lenses right there for thanksgiving in november. that means that during the 45 days, they are going to be doing the rest of their appropriating, figuring out how much the government will spend across various agencies. there are 12 appropriation spending bills that we have been talking a lot about during this time. it's also entirely possible that the things that fell off the table, but i am taking a specifically is on the house side, border security provisions. and on the senate side, ukraine

funding. there is also the possibility that they could try to come together on something like that. i had one republican member here in the halls in the last few minutes say, they think it is an opportunity for negotiators on the senate side, negotiators on the outside, to come together with something that allows each to get what they wanted on either border or ukraine and feel like they are doing so in a bipartisan fashion. now, what this person cautioned and rightly so, because we know how quickly bipartisan things can fall apart on the hill, is whether or not they can actually do that. but i think that is one of the things that i'm looking for during this 45-day period, not just the machinations inside the republican conference, potentially in retaliation from mccarthy and the way that he handled this but also if there is actually something constructive that could come from it. i know it's a tall order and a high ask for capitol hill, where the ball is basically on the floor these days, amen, and nonetheless, i am going to choose to be an optimist and say that this could be something that we look at. nevertheless, that is getting

ahead of ourselves, without michael bennett releasing the hold, they are not going anywhere fast on this, and that means we would still be in a shutdown posture, as i looked down at my tax chain, which is always moving here on capitol hill lately. we think that we could hear from leadership soon. seems like they are trying to work on -- >> i am going to jump in and interrupt you quickly, because senate majority leader chuck schumer is speaking. let's listen. >> with that objection -- >> i move to proceed to hr 58 60, which was received from the house and is at the desk. >> which part? motion to proceed through hr 58 60, an act making continuing a preparations for the fiscal year 2024 and further purposes. >> madam president, i don't want any further debate on the motion. >> is there further debate? if not, all in favor, say i. opposed, nay? ice have it. eyes have it. motion is agreed to.

full report. >> hr 5860, an act making continuing a preparations for the fiscal year 2024 and further purposes. >> madam president, i know wish for unanimous consent that we go up to five minutes for debate, equally divided between the two leaders. that upon the use or yielding back in time, the senate vote on the passage of h are 5860, with 60 affirmative votes required for passage, and with no amendments or motions to the bill prior to vote on passage. >> is there objection? without objection -- >> madam president -- >> majority leader is recognized. >> i have very good news for the country. democrats and republicans have come to an agreement, and the government will remain open. we will have avoided a shutdown. bipartisanship, which has been the trademark of the senate, has prevailed, and the american

people can breathe a sigh of relief. but this is a bridge cr, and leader mcconnell and i have agreed to continue fighting for more economic and security aid to ukraine. we support ukraine's efforts to defend its sovereignty against putin's aggression. so thank you, thank you to my colleagues on both sides of the aisle for their excellent work. the bipartisanship hearing and the senate, set the tone for today's result, and i hope it sets the tone for the future. i yield the floor. >> madam president -- >> republican leader, yes? >> with just a few hours to spare, the senate is now in a position to prevent a harmful and unnecessary government shutdown. with that said for weeks, the clear path forward has been to

pass a straightforward short term funding extension that gives us time to continue the number of important discussions about outstanding priorities, from securing supplemental relief for victims of natural disasters to restoring security and sanity at the southern border that the biden administration has dragged into chaos, to putting stronger restraints on the presidents reckless spending, supply ukraine with even more assistance it needs to repel russia's invasion. on that particular point, madam president, most senate republicans remain committed to helping our friends on the frontlines to invest more heavily in america's strengths, it reinforces our allies and the tears our top, strategic adversary china.

i am confident that the senate will pass further assistance to ukraine later this year. but let's be clear, the alternative to our action today, an entirely avoidable government shutdown will not just pause these important priorities but actually send them back. and in the process, it would saddle the people we represent with unnecessary hardships. i am glad that our colleagues and the house have taken action on a continuing resolution against critical government functions going at the critical rate of operation. as of this measure, keeping the lights on will allow us to return our attention to making and way for the appropriations that our colleagues have been working on. it will give us the flexibility and urgent supplemental priorities, both at home and

abroad. therefore, i would urge our colleagues to join me supporting this important step in the right direction. [silence] >> all right, as he heard there from both senate majority leader chuck schumer as well as the minority leader mitch mcconnell, a government shutdown seems to have been averted for now. with chuck schumer saying that he had good news to tell the country, that in fact, him and mcconnell have committed their promise to fighting for more resources for ukraine after the short term funding is ultimately approved and extended for 45 days in the middle of november or so. mcconnell there, also taking a victory lap saying that his caucus, the majority of which is committed to funding ukraine with more american military weapons and resources, that has

been set that as of now, this is the short term extension that he and others in his caucus saw a while ago. ali, it seems that we started the hour with uncertainty, but we started the answer as quickly as one could possibly get from the two leaders on the senate side. or does it go from here? >> you've got to love that,'s -- ayman, finally getting some answers here, after a little bit of a waiting game. just enough for us to dinner here on capitol hill. i think things are interesting in the ways that both leaders spoke here on the floor. of course, noting the fact that this is bipartisan in nature, a stopgap spending bill that allows them to continue negotiating on the appropriations front, while also not shutting down the government. the fact that both mcconnell and schumer are able to provide a united front, saying that they are in agreement that there should be future economic and military aid to ukraine, i did take note of the fact that senator mcconnell said that would come later this year. that is good news to, in his words, most of his caucus.

but at the same time, eludes to the idea that not every republican, and not every democrat are in lockstep on the path forward for ukraine. you have seen senators like j.d. vance and others say that they need more transparency into how ukraine is using the money before they continue providing aid to the country that is fighting its war against russia. now, it seems that they are moving on to the vote. i know that the leaders said that there could be up to five minutes of debate, but i believe that they might be even foregoing that. we'll see if anyone comes and actually start speaking, but even still, five minutes and then you are on to the substance of the vote. it is expected to pass in and overwhelmingly bipartisan fashion. we will see. are we back to this november 17th or in the days leading up to that? we know that this is a place that functions off of that science, so i would say that is likely, but at the same time, it goes back to what we were saying, ayman, which is that both sides of the building of things that they want to come

together and kind of a supplemental funding capacity. the ukraine funding or on the house republican front and some on the senate republican side, doing something on border funding and security. all of those things got left out of the current package. there is some reason to think that there could be an attempt at bipartisan action on that front. again, we will see. that is an open question. certainly, this is good news now, seeing the senate breakthrough that stalling and able to move forward here in the next few minutes. >> ali, let me ask you, perhaps a little bit of a technical question, which is, because we were expecting the government to shut down at midnight, and the question of whether or not between now and the next four hours, they can get something to the president's desk, what happens, minute by minute? what they've able to get something to the white house for signature before midnight? would we perhaps expect a signature tomorrow morning and still have the government function for a couple of hours, what do we know about that? >> no, you've got to imagine that this is not a far distance to travel between this side of

pennsylvania avenue and the other side of pennsylvania avenue at the white house. as soon as the senate passes this, they will get it to the presidents desk. even though it shut down overnight, for example, saturday into sunday, we have seen weekend shutdowns before, they are not overly disruptive. they last a short period of time, there is no need to do that in this situation. clearly, the senate is going to dispense with their business, at least in the next half hour or hour or so. we will see this able to go through the white house. that is the minute by minute of this, watching its way work from its way to the house, where the members are out of town, to the senate, where they will follow suit, and through the white house, where they will sign. this >> we will watch every step of the way and bring updates as it happens in realtime. nbc's ali vitale, don't go anywhere. we're not clear yet. don't go anywhere. >> i a already, don't worry. >> ali, thank you so much. let's bring it to the conversation, former alabama senator, doug jones and molly

jong-fast, host that the fast politics podcasts. let me start with you, mr. jones, and get your reaction to how this has played out. first of all, your big takeaway having served in the senate, you know a lot of these people and get it through this point, give me your take away the verdict a government shutdown, and whether or not we needed to be at this point? >> we did not need to be at this point. i think that is the biggest takeaway right now. look, everyone is breathing a sigh of relief that we avoid it a shutdown. i lived there a couple of these things, particularly in 2019. i kept working to get things going, because alabama has so much -- he's dependent on so much federal dollars, that a really hurt our state when we shut it down. the fact that the matter is, this is no way to run a railroad. mitch mcconnell said, he had been saying for weeks, we need to do a -- no, you should have passed the dam thing, got in all the preparations by september the

30th and due next year's appropriations. it's not a system that we have, but at least, the one thing that i am proud of with the senate is that they did look at this in a very bipartisan way. it's gotten past with a big vote, and that is the way that it should be. hopefully, they can prevail over the next 45 days to keep the far-right at bay and have mccarthy, once again, talk to the democrats, talk to his moderate caucus, let's get this thing done and move on. >> what fundamentally changes, senator, and the next 45 days? reality speaking here, what changes for kevin mccarthy? he knew that this would happen. he knew that this was an effort that was most likely going to happen because he was not going to necessarily give them everything they wanted. he, as we have seen time and time again, loves power and is not going to do the right thing. so that he does not lose those

extremists. now, he put himself and a position where he potentially could lose power, according to matt gaetz, but at the same time, he was to have to deal with the situation 45 days from now. >> he is going to have to deal with that, but i think, as we said a few moments ago, this is going to give folks some opportunity to sit down and talk a little bit more without the pressure of a government shutdown immediately. they will start that this week. i can assure you, they are not going to wake. they are going to talk about funding for ukraine. the talk about border security, and how it might come together. at the end of the day, i think what mccarthy has done with this is to show that at the very end, he will give his far-right caucus a lot of leeway. but at the end of the day, he will come forward. this was passed by democrats. 200 plus a democrats voted for this in the house of representatives, and he actually put a government and our country over his political party. i am hoping they will do that again. i think that there is a lot of

opportunity between now and then, we will see how it changes, but it can change from day today or it cannot change, we will see, once we get to that 45-day period. >> molly, let me bring you into this. your thoughts on what transpired today, specifically with kevin mccarthy. this is not a situation he needed to find himself in as senator doug jones there said. it was the democrats that got this across the finish line. at one point, i saw today, speaker jeffries trending on the website formerly known as twitter. an indication that, ultimately, kevin mccarthy is no longer the speaker of the, house he is a speaker in name only. >> look, republicans did not do this out at the goodness of their own hearts, right? they did this because they see the writing on the wall, and you have to wonder, if they were headed towards a shutdown, and the impeachment fiasco happened, what they saw, how bad that when, and i have to think that there was a certain amount of scrambling behind the scenes. remember, mccarthy is making a calculus here that there aren't

maga people, votes for a speaker to replace him. it's that they don't have someone else to replace them. because they don't. you cannot see before a vote majority in the house, taking the speaker mokgweetsi. what's the. i do think that he has just tried to save the house majority at this point, and i don't think that he should get any credit for that. i don't think that this is republicans acting because they are bipartisan and they love america. i think this is active because they -- because it. this >> as we saw on the senate side, certainly with speaker mcconnell and senate majority leader chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell speaking, the ukraine issue is going to be front and center over the next 45 days. they see -- those two gentlemen seem to be committed to the idea of getting more resources, not as clear as whether the entire republican caucus will be behind it, as ali of the tally was explaining. but it seems on the house republican side, this is going to be an issue that remains

front and center for the republicans. >> it is going to be a showdown. what i thought was so interesting is watching schumer and mcconnell sounded much like they were on the same team, as mccarthy and the maga caucus. i think it will be a real problem for republicans. yeah, they put themselves in it. look, kevin mccarthy made this fast in bargain to become speaker, and there is a one vote motion to vacate, and he could lose his job anytime. >> doug jones, thank you very much. molly jong-fast, stick around, i will come back to you later on in the show. coming up next, a speaker democrat jeff murphy about today's developments and what the next 45 days will look like, stay with us. e, stay with us icture. heart failure and seemingly unrelated symptoms like carpal tunnel syndrome... shortness of breath... and irregular heartbeat could mean something more serious, called attr-cm

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we will change things. the senate is voting on the house cr bill. i will break and democratic congresswoman. congresswoman, thank you for jumping in there. looking forward to talking to you about. this we have the senate screen they're up to see the bill as it takes place, but let me get your reaction to how this has played out over the last couple of hours, between the outside and now the senate voting on ? >> i am incredibly pleased that the house was able to come to a bipartisan resolution on this issue. we hope, certainly, that the senate will take up at the house bill and get this to the president this evening. it would be a tremendous loss for my constituents. we had a huge air traffic control center in my congressional district in minnesota, and i am very concerned if we shut down the government, and i am really proud that democrats were able to come together today on a bipartisan basis and update

this done. >> can you tell me about what democrats, perhaps, wanted to get in the cer that they did not get, where there was a compromise. we know that ukraine it has been the focus the last couple of hours, certainly for senator michael bennet. what was it that got democrats to vote yes for this? >> there were a number of issues under discussion in caucus during our emergency meetings today. one of those was the fact that this bill left out funding for ukraine. there is a strong bipartisan support in the house, as he saw, from an earlier amendment vote this week on the house, democratic and republican side. we would have loved to see ukraine but we were less than 12 hours at that point from the government shutting down. we have a knot there by at the oak rain funding. we will keep fighting for it. i think it's critically important. there's also another issue that

has not been talked about a lot here but republicans in the first iteration of this bill, had included a pay raise, cost of living increase for members of congress, so that got some lively discussion in the democratic congress. i am adamantly and was adamantly opposed to members of congress getting a pay raise, sadat got some lively discussion and ultimately, democrats got that pulled out. >> there was some talk that the house, or is it the house speaker, excuse me, the house leader on the democratic side, speaker minority leader jeffries, did not, at that point, whip the members of his caucus and lift it up to you to individually vote for the. can you talk about that? >> i think that the leader did a great job of percent thing the facts, the admins that had been coming us all week were

awful in the previous versions of the c r. this is an opportunity for the democrats to stand together and really show just how difficult speaker mccarthy as it with the maga republicans in his own caucus. i think the speaker did a -- the leader, hopefully, one day speaker soon, did a great job rallying us to understand the facts. it was actually the members who got up a caucus today and started talking about why they are going to vote for this continuing resolution. but remember, i want to be careful, this is not a win today. this is avoiding a loss. we now have to come back and work with our republican colleagues, and we have to get a budget across the finish line. i would say that today was a good start. it gives us the time that we need to get this done, and i would say to my republican colleagues, who have been a very frustrated this week with the element of control that the

freedom caucus has exerted over the speaker that i am proud to have voted with you today, and we can lead this country. we can govern as a body, if we get these bills put in front of us to our bipartisan, have input from both sides, just look at what we did today. let's do more of that. >> and the leader jeffries has called this a defeat for maga republicans. do you agree with that? the you see it as the feet for the extremists, or do you believe that they may now be emboldened to remove kevin mccarthy from the speakership? >> i don't know what the circus is going to do next week. you could never predict, but what i will tell you is that this was a loss for the freedom caucus this week. it was a win for the country. it was the start of a win for the country. and we can get more of the. i would just encourage speaker mccarthy to sit down with leader jeffries to continue to talk because we could actually govern again. we could show the american

people that they can have confidence, but, if speaker mccarthy continues to get led around by the nose by the freedom caucus, his moderates in his caucus are going to be very upset, and it will be very hard to work with the republican conference. >> all right, congresswoman angie craig from minnesota, thank you for coming, i appreciate it. i know it has been a long day for you and your colleagues. up next, as promised, i'll speak with senator jeff berkeley, who just voted on the stopgap funding bill. stay with us. bill stay with us titanium is here. get it on us, with verizon's best business unlimited plans. get the new iphone 15 pro, on us. it's your business, it's your verizon.

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are? >> yes, i did. this cr completes the division of the deal that was struck between leadership at the house and senate, bipartisan leadership on both sides and the president three months ago at disaster assistance. there are other things that we want to tackle, most importantly, the supplemental for ukraine. that was not part of the deal three months ago. that is ahead of us for the next couple of weeks. >> there was some reporting today that perhaps senator michael bennet with the hold up for this vote that was supposed to happen a couple of hours. can you talk about what happened behind the scenes to get him across the finish line and, perhaps, if there was anything as promised to allay the concerns to senators like yourself or michael bennett and see if anything more done can be done for ukraine? >> we had an intense caucus, where many of us spoke that this could not be the moment in which we did not proceed with the support to ukraine, that

that would be the end of our leadership in the world, deeply damage nato, of course, it would sacrifice a crane. that cannot happen. all of us were saying the same thing. but we understand that the c r is based on the deal three months ago, and that, therefore, ukraine was taken out. but there has to be a deep commitment by both the republican and democratic leadership and the senate that we will get the supplemental done. that deep commitment was on the spy tonight. in fact, as i came off the floor, mitch mcconnell speaking to reporters, and again, he was speaking about the importance of doing supplemental for ukraine. >> i heard in their comments, both leader mcconnell as well as schumer there spoke about the need to have that ukraine funding over the next 45 days. but was there something, when you think about the dynamics that played out among republicans over the past couple of weeks, certainly on the house side, which is safe to say is in disarray when it comes to the ukraine side, but you also have some republicans

in the senate, including the likes of j.d. vance and others, who are not as committed to ukraine for me. how do you get them across the board in the next 45 days? >> the fact is, we don't need every senator. we need 60 senators. when you had the leadership of both parties, that is excellent. by the way, in the continuing resolution, it provides an opportunity for billions of dollars of transfer authority, so there is authority for the president to keep supplying munitions through ukraine over the next few weeks, as we work to put the ukraine supplemental across the senate floor. >> what do you think those that might be concerned about what these democrats give up on the house side earlier, additional relief for crimes are funding programs for those in need, social welfare programs and the concerns that some of the programs maybe slashed over the next 45 days? >> well, the bulk of the programs were in the continuing resolution. i was on the house side, so i

cannot speak to the immediate dynamics. but the list that we saw, when they came over to the senate, was a complete list of all the things that were cited as we are most concerned about. i am sure in the examination of those details, things were very rushed here, in terms of the process. but i think people feel pretty good that they are funded and they see are and, by the way, realize that the maga far-right was talking about an 8% cut, and then about a 28% cut for what is agreed to on leadership from both houses and the president three months ago. tonight, we will be delivering the full cr. >> i guess some might be watching this and thinking what will change in the next 45 days? the scene that nexus to a play. they may become even worse with the maga extremists on the house side are emboldened to try to remove speaker mccarthy. perhaps, you don't want to talk about that, but generally, what do you participate changing in the next 45 days, besides

giving yourselves more breathing space to be able to negotiate this? fundamentally, the dynamics or ideological stances of the extremists in the house side has not changed. >> think about this, the senate has been passing every single bill in a bipartisan matter, including the toughest spending bill interior, unanimously. patty murray has been real teamwork. we kept saying that the only way that we get this done if there is a bipartisan, spear and strategy on the house side as well as the senate side. what we saw tonight was mccarthy said, you're right, we got to take the bipartisan xiaojie. i am going to do it. he almost dared people to remove him. i am sure in the next couple of days, before they do that again, talking today so no, mccarthy is going to be thinking long and hard about the path forward. that was the price today, there

will be some prices ahead. i don't think the far-right maga extremists will be able to lead him around, handcuffed to them in the same fashion after tonight. >> and do you think, finally, as the long term spending bill comes up in the middle of november or so after the 45-day extension, you will be able to read something more permanent before the holidays? >> so we anticipate, we have 12 spending bills, we anticipate that they will come in groups, many buses, if you will, two or three at a time, we're determined to get through them. we're also determined to make sure that the supplemental to ukraine gets done. there will be interaction between all those parts, and the parties of republicans and priorities of the democrats, and that's the way that we will get the deal. the fact that we had huge bipartisan support of the spending committee, appropriation committee, for every single one a day 12 spending bills, is a great foundation to build on. >> and, senator, can i ask you, finally, more philosophical question about this process,

which is, do you think that we need to reform the process every couple of years, we are not finding ourselves beholden to the situation? it seems to be, certainly in my lifetime, government shutdown is becoming more frequent, becoming more concerning for americans that are seeing the dysfunction in washington. i am not saying that both sides should share a responsibility here. that is not what i am saying. for those who follow this closely, we see where the false lies this time around, but is there a process that needs to be revamped to avoid this process from unfolding like this? >> absolutely, realize that the senate moved so slowly because when you have a motion to proceed with a bill, you don't have to wait three days to vote on it, and then you have to have 30 hours of debate before you can actually vote on it, but on the bill, that is. you have a whole week taken up by a single, procedural effort, where the house could do that in 30 minutes. that is designed in the senate for the rare moment, the very

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there is a handful of them left to go. we are working with the senate right now that is not operating with 100 sitting senators. of course, with the passing just yesterday, senator diane feinstein of california, now, we're waiting for just the last few to trickle in here. notably, as we watch this vote, the person who made this a little bit of a longer process than we initially thought, that it might be senator michael bennet of colorado, saying that he is voting yes or having just voting yes the last few minutes here. right now, i see seven no votes, as i am checking my text chain, which is tracking these things, looking at the floor along with you ayman. i did get a chance of the few minutes that i was a way to talk with senator mitch mcconnell as he came off the floor. you and i watch them together, giving statements before the boat started that echoed the sentiment of majority leader chuck schumer, that there needed to be something more done for ukraine. we heard from several senators, as they voted in the left

chamber that that is something that they feel is imperative to do. of course, it rings differently coming from the top republican though in senator mitch mcconnell. he echoed to me and a few other or porters what he said there on the house floor, which is that he needs to see action on ukraine. i pressed him on it. again, if it will be by the end of the year, as he said on the floor. he did not respond, but it does seem like that is the timeline that we are operating under here. we'll see if that is something that is possible. we know that the ukrainian president, volodymyr zelenskyy, was just here on capitol hill within the last week or two weeks, talking with top senators and house members, asking for more aid, saying that it is urgent as we head into the winter months, that they want to be able to continue to hold their posture, hold their gains and make more of them. there is more that is coming in and real time here with senators giving reactions. i think the statement that we're waiting for frankly at this point is going to be senator bennett explaining what

he might have gotten for these few hours of holdup. but you will know that the bow is done when you see senator chuck schumer standing at his usual desk, ready to adjust the chamber. it's likely that we'll hear from him as soon as votes wrap up, and that should be in just a few minutes here, as we watch the final senators cats their violence. >> do we know if those seven no votes, perhaps they could increase, they have any bearing or impact or effect on the outcome of what happens tonight? >> no, and i am looking closely at who those people are. you've got senator blackburn, braun, cruz, marshall, paul, smith and vance. each of them, i think i could provide a reason for, but if you look at one of the first names that i sent in senator ron, this is someone who is up for election not here, reelection in the senate but running for governor back in his home state of indiana. you have to imagine that there is a potential for instate politics at play in that vote.

you look at it again, senator ted cruz and rand paul, usually who is one of those to say on continuing resolutions broadly that he is not supportive. he was not willing to hold up the process, but at the same time, he is clearly not supportive of it. and writ large, when you hear conservatives both on the house side and senate side saying that they are not voting for continuing resolutions because it kicks the can down the road. yes, it's because it kicks down the cans that they had to deal with this in 45 days in this instance, but it's also by saying that your continuing, it means that your keeping spending pretty much where it is a. for many conservatives, especially on the house side, a lot of this fight was about trying to bring that spending number down significantly. , well below the numbers that were agreed upon during the that selling deal at the beginning of the summer. that is what they have been agitating for. some of the numbers voting no right now, they can stop the process from happening, but it's them staying true to the way that they often voted on

the cr's in the past, because they don't support the spending at these bonded. >> all right, ali vitale, live in the capital for us, thank you so much, we'll come back to you soon. we'll be right back. we'll squeeze in a quick break. don't go anywhere. n't go anywhere. i'm jayson. i'm living with hiv and i'm on cabenuva. it helps keep me undetectable. for adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is the only complete, long-acting hiv treatment you can get every other month. cabenuva is two injections, given by my healthcare provider, every other month. it's really nice not to have to rush home and take a daily hiv pill. don't receive cabenuva if you're allergic to its ingredients or if you taking certain medicines, which may interact with cabenuva. serious side effects include allergic reactions post-injection reactions, liver problems, and depression. if you have a rash and other allergic reaction symptoms, stop cabenuva and get medical help right away. tell your doctor if you have liver problems or mental health concerns, and if you are pregnant, breastfeeding, or considering pregnancy. some of the most common side effects include injection-site reactions,

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voting on the house passed continuing resolution. since you and i spoke, we had a chance to see here from senator berkeley, hear from representative angie craig, to see how this all played out. it's safe to say, between the two of them, you feel that the extreme wing of the republican party in the house has certainly lost today. america has one, as representative craig said. it was not a win per se, but it was not a loss, for the democrats. >> i think that is a good point. nobody should get cookies for not shutting down the government. this is the job of the government. remember, republicans saw that they were getting blamed. you saw all of these republican congressman over the last week saying that it is not fair, we will get blamed. they'll get blamed because they did it, right? they put together and realized that they're not definitively lose the house. you saw people up there, in a

mondaire district, who is running again against him. he was panicking, because you can see when the republicans shut down the government, the only wanted done it so far, they complained and get blamed. >> they get blamed, and we have 45 days to be perhaps right back at the same point, because fundamentally, nothing changes. ideologically, fundamentally, nothing changes. you are still dealing with the same positions, as ali explained to us, the funding itself, the hard-core republicans who took the position that we want to slash funding did not ultimately get what they wanted with the exception of the eu crane war. as you saw on the senate side, you have the leaders a day to caucus is committing to actually securing funding for the ukraine war. >> you saw already, matt gaetz tweeted that he is mad. he saw that he feels he's been ship, and the maga caucus has been betrayed by kevin mccarthy. here is the problem, kevin mccarthy really did make

himself a hostage. >> it's been like that from day one. >> right, yeah. >> not in this process. >> but this whole time, we would not have gotten this far had kevin mccarthy not said, oh, matt gaetz, you're the boss, even though it's such a small part of the caucus. i do think that we will have to see, because they have this block right now, you can see matt gaetz calling a motion to vacate, but who will he have? there is nobody else. the reason that kevin mccarthy got the speakership after 15 votes was because they did not have anybody else. i don't think -- i actually think that mccarthy has in a weird way, called matt gaetz's bluff, and i don't think that gaetz will partner with democrats and make jeffries the speaker. he does not have great choices here. >> do you share the optimism that senator murphy has that in 45 days time, they will actually be able to have a more permanent solution to this? >> i mean, they are going to have to, right? they will have to negotiate. look, mccarthy has a four seat

majority, and he is not a talented vote with her, as we have seen. >> that's you saying, not me. >> also devotes he could not get passed, the man, he really makes nancy pelosi really, really good at. this >> molly jong-fast, really appreciate it. thank you for sticking with us this hour with all of the breaking news developments. we still have a lot more to get to. our breaking coverage continues after this break. don't go anywhere. anywhere. en more active. shingles doesn't care. i go to spin classes with my coworkers. good for you, shingles doesn't care. because no matter how healthy you feel, your risk of shingles sharply increases after age 50. but shingrix protects. proven over 90% effective, shingrix is a vaccine used to prevent shingles in adults 50 years and older. shingrix does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients or to a previous dose.

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