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trump, clearly, if he just pulled the fire. alarm not by sending i'm off to the capitol to fight like -- >> if they could only find him doing something as dangerous as pulling the fire alarm. exactly. , mehdi great to see you as always, friend. great show, enjoy the rest of your evening off. tonight on ayman. gop in disarray. far-right house members are pushing to oust kevin mccarthy from the speakership. and some progressive democrats, well, they are jumping on board as well. plus breaking news on donald trump's civil fraud trial. new details on what we can expect when the ex president shows up to courts tomorrow morning and debate disaster. the front of the showing comedian match friend is back with us for his assessment of the latest chaotic republican debate. you do not want to miss this, one folks. i am eamonn -- let's get started. tonight we begin with breaking
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developments on the burgeoning efforts to oust kevin mccarthy from his role of speaker of the house. this morning far-right republican matt gaetz vowed to file a so-called motion to vacate. that's a move to event the speaker. he says he's going to do that in the coming days. saying, quote, we need to rebuff the band-aid. i think we need to move on with new leadership that n be trustworthy. according to politico, some house president conservatives predict there is at least a dozen gop members ready to support the motion to vacate against mccarthy. now to progressive democrats have indicated their support as well. shortly after the announcement from gaetz, congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez shows she would, quote, absolutely voted for a motion to vacate it. she left the door open in negotiations if mccarthy came to democrats for help. also said it's not up to democrats to save republicans from themselves. just hours ago on this network,
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congressman ilhan omar endorsed a motion to vacate. >> i can't wait to take the vote to vacate. i think it's not a surprise to anyone that mccarthy and i have our own issues. it's essentially an issue of governance. we know that mccarthy has not been able to contain -- with >> now, it should come as no surprise that matt gaetz is leading this effort. as we said. he has been a thorn in mccarthy's side since before mccarthy actually won the speakership in january. gaetz repeatedly refused to back mccarthy during the speakers race. when he finally did, then he squeezed several concessions adam mccarthy. one of the concessions was lowering the threshold for filing a motion to vacate to just one house member. after months of dangling the threat over mccarthy's head, gaetz says he is ready to move.
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here is mccarthy responding to that threat just this morning. >> this is personal. he voted against the most conservative ability to protect our border and secure the border he's more interested in securing tv interviews and doing something. he wanted to push into a shut down. he even threatened his own district with all the military people there who had not been paid. only because he wants to take this motion. so be a, to bring it on, let's get over with it. let's start governing. >> let's be clear for a moment. regardless of what happens this week with the motion to vacate. kevin mccarthy is losing control of his party there's no doubt about it. the warfare is open. after all it was the gop that almost caused the u.s. government to shut down when the house finally passed the stopgap spending measure it was because minority leader hakeem jeffries crowd the entire democratic caucus to support
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the bill. 90 hard-line republicans voted against the deal despite a shutdown being just hours away. they were okay with it. and now with mccarthy's speaker on the line it seems that democrats may have to come to the rescue yet again. or they may have to cut mccarthy loose once and for all. joining me now to break all this down. tara setmayer, the senior adviser in gop communications director. jennifer reuben washington post opinion writer and an msnbc political analyst. it's great to have both of you with us. i'll start with, you know that the shutdown has been averted, the chaos surrounding speaker mccarthy is on full display it's front and center. how much of this political future now rests in the democrat's hands to save kevin kathy. >>, over the irony. if you would've asked me whether a republican speaker of the house would have to rely on the democrats to save his speakership. i would still tell you are
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living in alternate universe. we are in the area of trumpism. kevin mccarthy has never really had control of the caucus. it took 15 rounds for him to get the gavel in the first place. he's been a speaker since the day he got the gavel. this was inevitable. we know at some point this was going to come to a head. this personal belief between gaetz and mccarthy, a lot of it is performative for matt gaetz. he's not exactly a pillar of political integrity here. neither is mccarthy. for different reasons. matt gaetz is a political nepo baby. he's a spoiled brat. he likes to preen and gain attention. he's not a serious person. i think that mccarthy this time may be outmaneuvering matt gaetz. there's a lot of drama around this, yes. it further weakens him as a speaker. ultimately, i don't think they can oust him. who's going to replace him? that's the only reason why mccarthy felt and voted to move forward with this department and the democrats. the democrats are sitting back laughing at this, saying okay,
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okay, we have a lot of hands here to play and that's on you guys. i think they couldn't find the republicans, they couldn't find someone as an alternative to mccarthy. which is why he went forward with. this he knew he could call the vote. who's going to replace? me no one wants that job. i think that's what we're looking at. here that's why they're calling their bluff. if it happens, matt gates loses even more credibility. i'm not quite sure where his very bound kooks go after this play. >> jennifer, it seems like the possibility of the motion to oust mccarthy could be an opportunity for the democrats because at the end of the day they could extract some concessions from mccarthy for him to retain his job if he gets some democrats to get him across the threshold and keep him as the speaker of the house. in some ways you'd be making hakeem jeffries as the de facto speaker of the house. some people have said kevin mccarthy as of yesterday's speaker in name only >> the
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problem with making a deal with kevin mccarthy, he can't keep the any of it. he could promise the moon and the stars to democrats and it would be worthless. it would be worthless coming from him and will be worthless coming from anyone else so i agree entirely new let the republicans do around this and figure it out. they can knock themselves out trying to find a replacement. ultimately they won't there is now rumbling they're going to try to expel matt gaetz based upon the criminal investigation that's going on that lead to an ethics investigation. this is what you get when you elected republicans. this is one long ad for democrats for 2024. this is what you get. at this point, there's only three things we know, one mccarthy never keeps his word, to mccarthy doesn't control his caucus and three the motions to
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vacate are pretty empty. so, we put all that together, democrats have washed their hands of this and let them play it out and they're going to have to do the same thing over and over again no matter who's in that seat. let's keep the country running and keep their wheels on the bus and hope for the best. >> but me ask you about aoc and omar and whether it was premature for them to go out and say they would vote to vacate mccarthy. first of all what do you think of them coming out and saying that smart politics are not so smart politics for type of split do you anticipate among democrats when it comes to ousting kevin mccarthy? >> well, you have that progressive left-wing faction and they operate in their own island a little bit on some of these things. we saw some of that when nancy pelosi was speaker of the house and she had to rein them in a bit for them, that works for their constituencies and there's only a handful i don't
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think that speaker minority larry to jeffrey's -- it's in the zeitgeist already. i don't think that he is too worried about some of their comments. that's what they do. i'm not really as concerned about that what he needs to be more concerned about are the democrats who are in districts that are swing districts he's probably going to tell his caucus they can vote based on their district this is going to be a vote of conscience i don't know if they're gonna come up with a strategy to save kevin mccarthy necessarily this is the same guy that opened up an impeachment investigation a sham impeachment investigation inquiry into president biden. i don't know how much goodwill there actually is here this is not like the relationships decades ago of old here. they have a couple of plays. >> good point, jennifer, let me get your thoughts not on the dynamic relationship between kevin mccarthy and matt gaetz we know how that's playing out with the personal animosity between the two of them.
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more importantly donald trump and kevin mccarthy because and doing what he did kevin mccarthy kind of bucking matt gaetz he's bucking the maga extremists within his caucus and they ultimately answer to donald trump to some extent kevin mccarthy on the singular issue went against donald trump he wanted a government shutdown he made that clear in the social media posts and he did not get the government shutdown. >> i think kevin mccarthy blows with the winds because donald trump blows with the wind when donald trump once an impeachment he gets that when he was telling them to shut down frankly kevin mccarthy for weeks was exactly where matt gaetz was. he didn't decide that he was going to be a responsible adult until yesterday when he finally decided he was going to put a bill on the floor. at times he acts and what he thinks will be a way that pleases donald trump he's gone on to something else at this
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poin donald trump hasn't said anything that he's greatly disappointed the government to still operating. i'm sure we'll talk about later in the show he's onto his next trial i don't think this is going to cause any rift between the two of them in point of fact donald trump continually leads to kevin mccarthy around by the nose and into a cul-de-sac he's become the weakest and most pathetic speaker in large part because he is not his own man. beca>> it's a good point. i have to ask you democratic senator john fetterman released a statement friday criticizing the state of congress he wrote i voted to keep the government open but i am done normalizing this dysfunction. i had a chance to ask yesterday on this program senator jeff merkley and others about whether or not to the process by which the spending bills and others needs to be reformed given the way our politics and our hyperpartisanship has
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become. what's not to equate both sides here republicans can hold congress hostage. question, is does the process need to be reformed to something by annually as opposed to every year in order to not face this threat every year? >> it needs to rest with the american people. the voters need to send better people to congress that is the bottom line here we can't keep changing our system because there are all full members of congress who are negligent in their duty and the office. the american people need to start paying attention making decisions. if this is what they want to continue to go on in their house of representatives. we haven't passed in normal order the 12 a push appreciation bill since 1997 this is a problem and it's gone on year after year it's used as a political tool and brinkmanship over and over again. peoples lives are at stake. peoples livelihoods are governance is at stake.
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i don't know if we need to change the system per se i think there needs to be consequences for the bad behavior. that rest with the american people at the ballot box. >> tara jennifer police stick around. i will come back to a little bit later on in the hour after the break we'll be joined by democratic congresswoman melanie stansbury we're will discuss kevin mccarthy's future and republicans who held their first hearing in their evidence free impeachment inquiry. stay with us. us rise. meet arexvy. ( ♪♪ ) the first fda-approved rsv vaccine. arexvy is used to prevent lower respiratory disease from rsv in people 60 years and older. rsv can severely affect the lungs and lower airways. arexvy is proven to be over 82% effective in preventing lower respiratory disease from rsv and over 94% effective in those with these health conditions. ( ♪♪ )
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back again. that was president biden today. -- have just six weeks to get their act together and pass a long term funding bill. joining me now is democratic congresswoman melanie stansbury of new mexico. it's great to see you again. thank you for coming back on the show. let's start by talking about what the near future could look at for speaker mccarthy. would you support a motion to vacate him? was that an attempt by republicans to distract from the broader chaos within their party? >> well, it's absolutely an effort to distract from the
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complete lack of leadership and chaos that's happening within their party i do think there are factions within the republican conference that generally do want to take the speaker out. you know, my message for mccarthy is it's not our circus. he is not our clown. we stand united behind hakeem jeffries to be the next speaker. you know, it's not up to democrats to bail him out. he's got to work it out within his own conference. we don't even know what kind of procedural motions may come to the floor in the coming days or weeks. it's up to him to figure out how to manage his conference. for the members of our conference to have legitimate and serious leadership that's able to govern this country. >> let me ask you about the short term spending bill. obviously, it doesn't include funding for ukraine. that gave democrats on the senate side at least some pause there for a moment. the white house is focused on turning that around before mid november, earlier today president biden said to stop playing games and actually get it done. what would you like to see
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moving forward? what does it look like in the short term? >> well, we need to bring a bipartisan effort to the floor very quickly to fund our aid to ukraine. it's very clear that ukraine needs military support in its efforts to push back against the russian invasion. it's important for our democracy. i think what a lot of people need to understand is that this isn't just about ukraine and the safety and the sovereignty of that country. of, course it's very important. it's about the survival of western democracy. american engagement and support for ukrainian efforts is vital to the future of global democracy. we need to get a resolution to the house for quickly and get that aid to ukraine. >> we recently saw the other republican manufactured chaos and notably the house oversight committee holy's first impeachment inquiry hearing into biden.
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i was struck by some of the comments that you made. i want to play every part of your remarks from that hearing. >> let's be clear about what this hearing actually is. it's an effort to undermine our democracy and to diminish donald trump's own two impeachments. this is not a serious inquiry. this is not a serious hearing. in fact, the witnesses here don't even believe there's enough evidence to impeach. >> and you also, the end of the clip cut out the. you pointed to the fact that members of the republican party didn't even attend that hearing. you really undercut a lot of their argument. i wanted you to expand on the first part of your remarks there. the part that this is the threat to our democracy. and how it poses such a threat. >> yes, it's very clear that
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the fake impeachment hearing is all about donald trump. it's very clear when you follow the evidence that donald trump called for an impeachment inquiry. he's very clear on his own social media posts that the reason why he wants this impeachment is to undermine the justice system. it's investigating him for criminal activity. it's part of his own efforts to undermine his political opponent in the 2024 election and so in that way, it's part of donald trump's continued criminal pattern of trying to use our democratic institutions to put forward his own political agenda. after we saw the 2020 election, his efforts to foment an insurrection in the capital and to steal an election, i think that it's very chilling. it's part of his continued pattern to undermine our democracy and fair and free elections. to use the resources of the government to do so. >> how does the rodeo head look forward for republicans are trying to push this and --
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cory will it have a political cost? they and their constituents and their districts are so siloed off from the reality of america and one americans really want from a governing party that it will not have any political consequence for them. >> you know, it's clear that there is a portion of the gop's base that is, as you, say very siloed off from broader media coverage. i think that what was unfold display in the six plus hours of that hearing was a complete lack of evidence and seriousness. what was particularly strange about the hearing, their own star witness in his opening statements and the first few minutes of his statement says i do not personally believe that there is sufficient evidence to meet the standard of impeachment. i was like, okay, great let's gavel and get this thing over with. why are we even holding this hearing?
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>> -- >> it was evident they don't have evidence. >> not to speak over you. i meant to say, it's crazy to think that jonathan turley who's become the darling of everything the republicans want to do with any legal justification is literally coming out and saying i don't think this actually raises to the level of impeachment inquiry. congresswoman melanie stansbury, it's always a pleasure, thank you for making time for us this weekend. i know it's been very busy for you. >> thank you for having me. >> coming up, donald trump's civil trial kicks off. is this the beginning of the end of his business empire. first, my friend richard louis is here with the headlines, hello, richard. >> great to see you, some of the stories we're watching. late senator diane feinstein will lie in state at san francisco city hall on wednesday. visitors will be able to pay their respects. a funeral service will be held the following day. it will not be open to the public. feinstein died on thursday. she was 90 years old. illinois residents are allowed back home following cleanup from an ammonia spill. that spill was caused by deadly
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fraudulently over valuing his assets, and stripping him of control of his new york properties. that decision validated the heart of laetitia james's case. now, as part of his ruling, the judge canceled the business certificate of all of the defendants. it includes the trump organization itself and numerous llcs connected to the company. and karen's ruling didn't resolve all of the claims in the lawsuits. the judge saying there are disputed factual issues related to other claims that require a trial. here is where we are. and now we have just learned of the lame names on laetitia james's list for witnesses in this trial. among them, donald trump. eric trump, ivanka trump. former trunk organizations cfo allen weisselberg and trump's former fixer michael cohen. msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade joins me now. we -- are also back with us. i will start with, you barbara.
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between the ruling against his attempts to delay in the manhattan judge ruling that he did indeed commit fraud. do trump and his codefendants even have a chance of escaping accountability at this point? is the writing on the wall? >> i think the writing is on the wall, eamonn. i think the question really is, what does that writing? say what are the dollar value? so how much is at stake here what the judge found was that donald trump had overvalued his assets to the tune of 2.2 billion dollars. it was the largest margin. the devil is in the details. some of the things that they're going to do this week's figure out exactly how many these assets are worth. i imagine we will see expert witnesses and people who are experts and financial valuation as well as some of the people you just names who will figure out the actual value of these assets. it was clear that the judge who said this will be decided on the documents alone these assets were overvalued in gross
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proportions. why do you think donald trump is coming tomorrow? why also laetitia james? >> i don't know. neither one of them is likely to have a speaking role. so, there may be some symbolic value there. from time to time, when the leader of an office has a big case that is being handled by the office, i think she wants to show up for moral support of her people. i think she wants to show up to make sure the message is set to the judge that she backs this case. you understand. and just to watch and see what's going. on i doubt she will have a speaking role. all the people who were worked on this case, the ones likely to do. it similarly, i can't imagine donald trump's lawyers wanting him to have a speaking role in this case. if i were the, lawyers i would keep him as far off stages possible. we saw the lawyers do in the e. jean carroll case. again, i think part of trump's political strategy is to portray himself as the victim and talk about grievance. so, by being, there perhaps he put some ammunition into that strategy. >> selling more merchandise. who knows, at this.
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point jennifer, we know that trump is being accused of mang more than 200 misleading estimates of his company's finances. attorney general james to seeking $250 million in damages, in addition to barring the trumps from ever serving as officers and directors in any new york company. that's pretty consequential for a family that has built their entire empire right here in new york. >> it certainly is. trump's entire identity is wrapped up in his name on those iconic buildings and the money he derives from them. so, in a strange, way this may hurt him more than the criminal trials, which continue to think will go his way or wrongly. this really strikes at his wallet, which he values more than anything. barbara is right, we really don't know the extent of this. which specific properties are going to be an issue? if you can't run them, can't other members of the family run them? if they, can't what happens to
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be properties? to some of these properties need to be liquidated in order to pay for that 250 million dollar penalty? there is lots of questions and lots of details. you know, one of the risks of donald trump showing up in court if he can be called to the stand. now, he will probably take the fifth amendment. he chose not to take the fifth and one of his depositions. that may not work. it can get really dicey. he can once again be in the position -- or perhaps giving information to the prosecution that he doesn't think it is hurtful but really is. >> barbara, how likely is it that laetitia grant james could get the penalty is that she is seeking care? >> i think it's highly likely. i don't know what the numbers will be. that will be something that gets litigated this week the finding of fraud means that she's already blind but how much. >> the new york times writes that this strikes at the heart of his identity, as jennifer
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was also. saying what catapulted him onto the main -- what catapulted him to the mainstream was this image that he was a new york tycoon. how would he spend this? how would he be able to use recover, as jennifer was, saying this was stripped away from him? >> well, i think he's laid the foundation over the last seven years as the victim. his entire identity now is all about grievances. the people who follow him are going to look at him -- he's actually a fraud a, liar, a loser, they're not going to see the light all of a sudden. the judge found evidence in the case. donald trump doesn't believe in the legal system. his followers don't believe in the legal system either. they think everything is rigged against donald trump. it's part of the reason why he's such a dangerous entity. he has undermined the institutions. this is a perfect example of that.
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he's been a professional fraud his entire life. he is a terrible businessman. i'm from new jersey. i remember what he did to atlantic city. i remember when was found that he owned $70 million to 253 subcontractors just for the taj mahal. subcontractorsthat was one casit bankrupt. i remember this is the same guy that bragged on 9/11 how now the twin towers have fallen he's his building is the tallest in downtown. there's something sick with him with this. it doesn't make a difference to his followers. of course, we have the lincoln project know how to do our audience of one strategy. we have something coming out called broke that will be targeting him in new york and in mar-a-lago. strike into the heart of this and reminding him that his empire is falling apart. we know that will drive him crazy. he sowing securer about. that all he has is that facade. in a general election, for the people who aren't in the called, this strikes at the heart of what he deserves.
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this is just something that is decades in the making. he is finally held accountable for all of the litigation that he's been through and for the fact that he swindled so many people for so long. it's about time there's count ability. >> barbara, i want to turn to the case and georgia. it was a week of legal setbacks for trump in that election interference case. you had scott hall becoming the first defendant to enter a plea in the case. he was a bail bondsmen accused of tampering with electronic voting machines in coffee county during the 2020 election and working with other codefendants including pro trump lawyer sydney powell. a big unanswered question here is really going to be how much did he interact with both trump and giuliani. do you think people in trump world are scared of him now agreeing to testify? at the very least, concerned about what him flipping means? >> yes, i think they must be very concerned for two reasons. , one whatever testimony he himself can provide. also the domino effect that
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also happens once that first defendant falls, so often other defendant start, thinking, wow i better think about my strategy as well. he got in the door. he got a pretty good deal. the longer i, wait the worse my deal is going to get. should i be pleading guilty to? i can imagine that the other 18 defendants this weekend, we are talking with their lawyers about whether they ought to be pleading guilty. this defendant certainly was working closely with sydney powell. so, likely has testimony valuable in the case against her. there is also been reporting that on january 2nd of 2021, when all that crazy stuff was going on at the white house, he had a 63-minute phone call with jeffrey clark. the doj official. so, he clearly has information about that phone call as well. so, he could be a real key person here to the entire case falling apart against these other defendants. >> your take on this scott hall flip, jennifer. >> well, i think barbara is absolutely right. what happens is, he is in a position to give very damaging
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testimony against sydney powell. so, she decides, well, now i need to make a deal. she gives more damaging testimony against the rest of them. so, this is how it works. we have talked about going from the bottom up and then investigation. well, it also works when you start flipping witnesses like this. i also think the other facts, the other developments last week there were harmful with trump where more people were denied a chance to put their case into federal court. donald trump has said he wants to stay in state court. one of the gambits that he was counting on was maybe guiding lifted into federal court or enjoying some of the defenses that he thought would -- that lawyers would be better received in federal court. really, nothing has gone very well for him. when you look back, it's hard to think of anything of consequence in any of these trials that he's won. when he wins one, he gets
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overturned on appeal. so, loser is an appropriate term both for his economic situation and his legal situation. >> tara, final thought to you, donald trump has given up his fight to try to move his case to d.c., this comes three weeks after a judge denied mark meadows's bed to have his case moved. pretty big reversal for him, why? >> you now, it's interesting. i mean, i think that at this, point they are just trying anything. he is in such legal jeopardy here. mark meadows, i thought he was in the witness protection program for the last two years. now we see where he is, is he cooperating? i can't imagine mark meadows going to jail for donald trump. neither will any of the rest of these people. it gets real when you're looking at jail time. there is so many aspects to these legal problems that trump has.
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i think the legal team is trying anything to navigate it. i don't see how they're going to be successful with any of them. so much evidence is damning. marble, quail terrace at minor, jennifer reuben, thank you to the three of you. greatly appreciated as always. coming up, our gop whisper and canadian, a good friend of the program, that front is back here to help us understand if it is at all possible to understand the disasters republican debate. what's going on between kevin mccarthy and matt gaetz? matt gaetz? theo's nose was cause for alarm, so dad brought puffs plus lotion to save it from harm. puffs has 50% more lotion and brings soothing relief. don't get burned by winter nose. a nose in need deserves puffs indeed. america's #1 lotion tissue.
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take a look. >> no one appears -- we are going to call you donald duck. >> we will pass a federal expedited death penalty for anyone involved in a mass shooting. i'm going to use the u.s. mattel area to go after the mexican drug cartels, transgender-ism, especially in kids, is a mental health disorder. >> i honestly, every time i hear you, i feel dumber for what you say. >> it's not about climate change that we are worried about. it's about the biden and climate policies that are the existential threat to america's future. >> -- >> who better to react than the one and only comedian friend of the show matt friend. listen, we appreciate you taking time. >> i am so excited. >> you are the busiest comedian i now. more importantly, we now have you officially as our debate correspondent. >> i'm thrilled to be back.
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i'm back with you, i'm thrilled to be here. i'm glad to have you back. >> what do you think donald trump thought of that? >> before you even asked the question, we all know you're a dead dog. what i can tell you, they're failed chris christie, he called me donald duck, it was actually not too bad. not too bad. if chris christie calls me donald, doc i like to calm chris cal, -- he was like the great pocahontas war. a native american -- such a great person. the life of pi and their two. that was fantastic. i'll tell you, it rhonda sanctimonious is dropping like a rock. pence should've been hung. that's a different story. china, thank you. -- we have more to go. >> chris christie cracking the donald dot jobe. how many times do you think he
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rehearsed it? he delivered it with the anticipation of a truck hitting a wall. >> i think chris christie delivered it hundreds of times. that was the least of my concerns. to be equally lately honest with, you i think kim jong-un has a better chance of being president of the united states than doug burgum. as long as you're watching, if your name isn't dan levy or eugene levy, you should trim your eyebrows. drag -- for 38 years. the only thing less sexy than that is footage from lauren boebert state nights. and then you have, who else is there, -- vivek ramaswamy. for that ramaswamy in this country, we have an epidemic of wokeism. we can choose american independence or being subservient to ukraine. which do you prefer? he is like that can latinos everything. he so jacked up on. something he so intense. he's way too intense. by the way mitch mcconnell was
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not on the debate, i will say. i admire his statements on dianne feinstein. it was a little bit jarring, they looked young when talking about diane feinstein. rest in peace. it was weird, which mcconnell was the guy two weeks ago who was asked, will you be seeking reelection in 2026? he received bonded, what? mitch, mitch. the last time you are on the show, a couple days ago, it was a night before the freeze, it was not intentional. ron desantis, a tough guy act, said he was going to send troops to the border. he was trying to flex. human beings are supposed to go like this, he delivers a statement. let me tell you, when i take the oath of office, i'm going to veto these woke democrat
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bills. i will be the best president you've ever seen. floridians will be proud. the moistness on his lips is fantastic. it is insane. >> the headline this week is kevin mccarthy. he is in a lot of trouble. let's start with kevin mccarthy's thoughts on how this week has been for him and his government. >> the real threat, ayman, to the people of america is not vladimir putin. it is zelenskyy and matt gaetz. alexandra ocasio-cortez. i have faith in america. i believe in america. and i know that they will come to the right decision. matt gaetz will be proven wrong. it's why i like to announce tonight, i will expel him from the government. thank you. that's what hakeem draft -- we need democracy over demagogues. maturity over matt gaetz and mccarthy. thank you so much.
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>> hakeem jeffries is probably the speaker of the house. >> after this, weekend of kevin mccarthy tries to keep his position, if matt gaetz tries to vacate -- >> the eyebrows defy gravity. i don't know what's going. on matt gaetz is upset there is no playgrounds closer to capitol hill. do you know what i mean? okay. a little touchy. google the reference. i don't know if i will get through this. i was going to say, when i think about all the different characters on the republican side, i have asked you this before, what do you do to actually prepare for these comedy routines? >> -- let me you see stewart barney of foxes, nurse he struggled to
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pronounce the fellow moderators name. i'm joined by calderon's to via -- i'm sorry, univision, spanish soap opera. what's going on. you are moderating debates, stewart. come on. >> it was very uncomfortable. >> very uncomfortable and unprofessional. you would be surprise from fox. >> yeah, it was intense. >> is there someone you thought won the debate? >> there was so much yelling and shouting. i won the debate. comedians won the debate, to be completely honest with you and i don't know mickey haley seem pretty strong. she was yelling over everyone and somehow desantis has not changed strategy. the problem desantis, the voice is a little too weak. he can't be shouting over people. i like the donald jock line. it's a little rehearsed. i don't think they're any winners in the debate. i think trump is still far ahead he's, in the lead of his own. the insults our next level. he calls nikki haley a bird
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brain. i don't know what they can do. i do think trump is right. there is an addition to be one of his potential vps, -- >> can you imagine donald trump and ramaswamy on the same ticket on the campaign trail? do you think the country has the bandwidth for those two people? >> between the absurd policies and the rhetoric, the demagogue between the two of them, the denialism of just common sense. m >> vivek is like a mauro walmart. the message is clearly not working. he was getting stepped on in the last debate. the two of them together, i don't see it happening. it is clear that he's vying for that position. he's kissing up to me like a dog. i want to debate trump and vivek, the two of, us how about that? >> make it happen, anytime. >> we still have a lot more debates. we will have you back on. standing in, good to see you.
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week house republicans almost shut down the government and pushed a bogus impeachment inquiry and president biden sounded the alarm over actual threats to our country issuing a dire warning about the state of our democracy and rebuking those that are responsible for it. >> there is an extremist movement and it does not share the basic beliefs in our democracy. the maga movement, there's no question that the republican party is driven and intimidated by maga republican extremists. they are not hiding their attacks. they are openly promoting them. trump says the constitution gave him, quote, the right to do whatever he wants as president, and quote. i have never heard the president say that in jest. meg arrest -- they made it clear where they stand. the challenge for the rest of america, the majority of americans, they made clear where we stand. do we still believe in the constitution? do we believe in the basic
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decency and respect, we should all remember democracies don't have to die at the end of a rifle. they can die when people are silent. when they failed to stand up or condemn threats to democracy. >> thank you for making time for us on what has been a monumental and historical week. make sure to catch a man on msnbc saturdays at, eight sundays at nine, follow us on twitter tiktok and instagram at amen msnbc. until next, time i'm ayman mohyeldin. have a good night. a good night. tourists taking photos that are analyzed by ai. so researchers can help life underwater flourish. ♪ detect this: living with hiv, i learned that i can stay undetectable with fewer medicines. that's why i switched to dovato. dovato is a complete hiv treatment for some adults. no other complete hiv pill uses fewer medicines to help keep you undetectable than dovato.
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