reflect that our disabled lives are not of lesser value, and in partnership with the disability community, the biden harris administration is working to do just that. breaking down barriers that exist today in transportation, health care, education, employment, voting, and more. >> disabled americans are still three times less likely to have a job. they're often earn less for the exact work that someone else is doing who's not disabled. too often, disabled americans are unable to vote to get to and from work, and, school to enjoy public spaces. but thanks to all of you, who continue to make progress. i think this is just the beginning. i think someone's gonna be standing here 20 years from now talking about how fundamental it's changed across the board,

across the board. we can never stop. >> let's all do our part to make sure that hopeful prediction comes true. on that note, i wish you all a very good and a very safe and healthy night. from all of our colleagues across the networks that nbc news, stacey thanks for staying up late. i'll see you again tomorrow. orrow. >> thanks for joining us at this hour, it's good to have you. the year was 2015, he was 90 years old. and the interviewer asked him if there were things that were still on his to do list. things he still wanted to get done during his lifetime that at the age of 90 he had not yet managed to finish. and again, at this, point he's 90 years old. but he considers the question

and he has this answer really ready. he says, declarative, lee and very simply, yes, there are two things that he intended to get done during his lifetime. two things that were on his to do this that he hasn't quite been able to finish yet that he would like to finish before he dies. he said the first one was middle east peace with. he had already been given the nobel peace prize and part for his work in pursuit of that goal, middle east peace. but yes, obviously, that's still not done. still work to do their. that was one. and then this was the second thing. this second thing still on his to do this but he said he hoped to complete before he died. >> if in the time that you have left, but we'll give you the most satisfaction to see something happen? >> i'd like to see something completely eradicate before i die, if i'd like to see

anything die before i do -- >> i'd like the last guinea worm to die before i do. that was president jimmy carter speaking in 2015, he was nine years old. president carter is now 99 years old and it turns out he's getting very close to having that wish fulfilled. what's again you warm? a guinea worm with are -- humans can get essential as a parasitic infection, you can't get it from an drinking water that has dug any worm larvae in. it i can show you what that means in humans. i am not going to. i have seen the photos myself of what this means in terms of a human infection and how these worms grow and your body. i have seen these photos, i'm haunted by them, i do not watch this in for. you you can look them up if you, what i'm gonna show them here. but trust me, it is vial and very, very memorable. basically what happens is that you unknowingly drink water that has the larva of these worms and it, and the warms

grow inside your body and the guinea worms don't necessarily kill you, but they can make you incredibly debilitating least sick for months at a time. and they are excruciating lee painful. and these things have been around forever. scientists have found the remains in 3000 year old mummies. in the old testament, there's a description of fiery serpents attacking the israelites in the desert. some scholars think that what that might have actually been referring to in the old testament was actually anywhere ms.. these things -- i'm sure guinea worms are beloved to each other, right? i'm sure they have friends and moms. but to us humans, they are a plague. and they've been causing horrific human pain and misery for thousands of years. particularly the little kids. and in 1986, six years after he

was voted out of the presidency, former president jimmy carter decided that he would use his poll and his sway, his remaining pairing the world, to try to rid the world of this one particular awful played. because it was a doable thing. getting rid of this guinea worm thing, it's not a high tech solution, it's not dependent on some expensive scientific miracle. it just takes focus and wherewithal and commitment, and somebody to lead the effort. somebody -- basically, the solution is that people need to identify when they have infection so they don't spread to other people. and people need to be able to do simple filtration of their drinking botter so they don't and just any of the larva from these worms. for literally thousands of years, we, as a species, we as humans, could not get it together to do these two basic things. but jimmy carter decided that he would try to do it.

and so, you know, in many basic stuff, doctors and care for people with this disease, and education about it, and also little straws that you can drink through to filter your drinking water. that's basically the whole program. drinkingwhen jimmy carter startd working at, this there were three and a huff million active cases of guinea worm disease in the world. that means, three and a half million people who were in excruciating, unbelievable pain, from infection with this parasite. but he got to work to try to get rid of it. and 32 years into, it when he did that interview at the age of 90, he said he was hoping the last guinea worm in the world would die before he did. well, yesterday, jimmy carter turned 99, and it looks like he really might get his wish. as a today, the carter center says that in the first eight

months of this year, from january 1st to august 31st, if you look at the first eight months of this year, combined in total, the number of known cases of genuine disease anywhere in the entire world is six. not 6 million, not 600,000, not 6000, six cases. again, when jimmy carter started this guinea worm eradication program, there were three and a half million simultaneous cases in the world. now, in total, combined all eight months of this, year there are six cases on earth. the only human infectious disease that's one ever been eradicated smallpox. eradicated thanks to vaccines as of 1980. we might be about to have the second. right now, humankind is on the doorstep of eradicating a terrible human infectious disease for only the second

time in the history of earth. and it's not thanks to a big scientific breakthrough, it's not thanks to some high tech solution, it's thanks to jimmy carter who turned 99 years old yesterday! earlier this, year the l.a. times reported how former president carter we'll talk about his joy at one visit he made to see the progress of this program that he was running. he visited a school in rural nigeria, and he said that some of the school kids came up to greet him with a sign that said, watch out, guinea worm, here comes jimmy carter! [laughter] former president pardus at that of all his years and politics and public life, that's his favorite of all the sense he's ever seen but this name on it. the school kid saying, watch out january, here comes jimmy carter! so happy 99th birthday, mister president. middle east peace might be a work in progress, but this one you might get to cross it off your list.

jimmy carter turning 99 years old yesterday. and in jimmy carter and his global guinea worm eradication program we have one model for how a former american president can make the best use of his post presidency years. there are other models to. and we will talk later on this hour about the remarkable scenes in court today in new york, former president donald trump deciding to be in the courtroom today in new york even though he did not have to be. this today was the civil case brought against trump and his adult sons and top employees of his business and his business itself. it's a civil case in which the new york attorney general has alleged insurance fraud and falsified business records and falsified financial records. the basic allegation from the attorney general in this lawsuit, is that trump's real

estate business it's built on fraud. it's built on systemic, sustained, deliberate, financial fraud. but the attorney general is claiming here is that former president trump's lying insistence that he is way richer than he actually is has not just been pitiful, but harmless bragging by sad man, the allegation is that those lies were materially consequential in business terms. in a way that new york state is now going to make him pay for. now, when your defendant in a criminal case, when you've been criminally charge, you don't have a choice about showing up in court. while the course has been tried. you have to be there in a criminal case. but this isn't a criminal case, this is a civil case. so donald trump didn't have to be there in court today. he chose to be there today, nevertheless. which itself tells you something about how important this case is to him. nobody's gonna get prison time

out of a civil case like this. he's facing potential prison time in the four other cases in which he has been criminally indicted, but not this one. and this is a civil case, but it is the one where he very well could you lose his whole business and all its properties that he takes such pride and. so yeah, this when he cares about. and today, he elected to be there at the trial in person. he will apparently be there again tomorrow. he spoke to reporters outside the courtroom. he called the judge in the case a rogue judge. at one point talking about new york attorney general tish james who brought this lawsuit. he said, quote, you have to go after this attorney general. which felt, i mean -- speaking in layman's terms there, that felt very much like him crossing the line when it comes to the way that he has attacked judges and prosecutors and other people involved in the various court proceedings in which he is implicated. you've got to go out -- you ought to go after this

attorney general. what do you mean by that? so we'll talk about that a little later. andrea talk with somebody who was there inside the courtroom today and try to sort out some of what we're likely to expect in this case in the days ahead, particularly since this one seems to be agitating the former president, and it's one in which he may end up himself on the witness stand, testifying under oath. but the news got -- the news moves in mysterious ways. this contest in today's news between the jimmy carter post presidency at his 99th birthday, and the donald trump post presidency in court today in new york, so it feels a little bit like it's here to help -- here to help us right now in terms of understanding what's going on in this moment in american politics. particularly with our two major political parties. because, as much as i've founded frustrating for years,

there is still, even now, unbelievably, a lot of lazy punditry, a lot of lazy assuming out there in the press. that our two major parties in this country are basically the same. that they are mirror images of each other. the actual news from the actual world is here to put disprove that, most days, particularly today though. today, you know, congress just narrowly avoided a government shutdown this weekend, right? today, congress was consumed with drama over whether the farthest right faction in the republican party will be successful in their efforts to oust the republican speaker of the house. why do they want to oust him as speaker of the house? because he had the temerity to work with democrats on a bill that kept the government from shutting down. that is kind of their sum total. of their argument against him. i, mean for them, it is self

evident that that grave crime is enough. he has speaker kevin mccarthy is going to commit a mortal sin of working with the democrats on anything, then obviously he must lose his job, he must no longer be republican speaker in the house. and that is -- that's what today was consumed within congress, that's what congress is going to be about for at least the rest of this weekend maybe longer. congressman matt gaetz, republican congressman matt gaetz tonight, actually filed his motion to vacate which means within two legislative days, members of the house will have to take up the future of mccarthy's speakership thanks to gaetz's objection that mccarthy had the temerity to work with democrats. and nobody knows exactly whether this is going to work, whether democrats are going to help kevin mccarthy stay in power, what they might demand as their price if they choose to do that. we also don't know how republicans will line up for and against kevin mccarthy. fox news is now reporting that

some republicans who like kevin mccarthy my tried to end run this whole thing by trying to expel matt gaetz from congress altogether. that can make for some happy, happy fun times. but bottom, line whether or not republicans succeeded in ousting their own speaker of the house over this narrow miss on a government shutdown, whether or not it ultimately oust some from the speakership, the message here is clear, right? i mean, in the republican party, if you work with democrats on anything, you are in big trouble as a republican. that is where the republican party is at right now. meanwhile, here's how the democratic president is campaigning for reelection. campaigning for reelection >> there was a time in america when we expected leaders to put people over politics. one instead of shouting, people from different parties talked

and listened. but for joe biden, compromise isn't a way of the past, it's how he's building americas. future passing hundreds of bipartisan laws, a lot to rebuild our roads and bridges that puts americans to work. to make america a leader in high tech manufacturing. bringing good jobs home. laws to improve veterans health care. and strengthen gun safety. every one of those laws, bipartisan. he hasn't gotten everything he wants. but that's not how he measures success. for joe biden, success means lifting everyone in america, no matter where you live, or who you voted for, because he is a president for all americans. >> i'm joe biden and i approve this message. >> he hasn't gotten everything he wanted, but that's not how he defines success. now, for true blue liberals and for all democratic proudest sense who are watching that add,

you may object to that strategy, right? and some of that imagery in particular can be hard to swallow. congolese, rise reagan, and even john mccain. but that's still biden. president biden has always been a very collegial guy, both with his democratic colleagues and with republicans. it's a core part of how he works as a politician. and therefore of what people expect from him in politics. yes, he is liberal, yes he's a progressive on almost all policy issues, but he will work with everyone, he'll always try to find middle ground, that is joe biden! he's been literally doing this for decades. it is not as a surprise that this is how he works, and that how this is how he's campaigning for reelection. for him to be campaigning for reelection saying i won't get everything i want but i don't think disposed to get everything we want, response to work things out together -- contrast that with what it takes to rise in republican politics right now. right? democrats are campaigning for

office saying, i'll compromise and find middle ground. republicans are run out of the party for even thinking about that. let alone doing it. there is no way to both sides this. there is no mirror image here. one of these things is not like the other. the two parties are working on two different projects. and the reasons for that are myriad. but here is another piece of it that we are just learning. nbc news has just broken a new story tonight, a very provocative story within the last hour. that may give us a little bit of a window into why the two sides, the two major political parties in the united states right now, seem like they are coming from two different planets. and they are trying to do two totally different things. it may have a little bit to do with the relationship between the fringe, the extreme, and the middle. the distance between the not

just not governing, but really far out there non respectable fringe, and the actual governing part of the party lawyers. the story. about 25 years ago, 1997, the flagship conservative magazine, the national review, went through one of its periodic purges. they realized, as they periodically do, that they were employing some rioters the republicans and pieces that were just too racist. they have periodically realize this over the course of the history of this magazine. they have to do this when they've ended up publishing people who claim that white people are naturally more intelligent than everybody else. white people are genetically superior to all of the races. they were publishing a guy who argued that white parents and asian parents to teach their children to avoid black people. they published a guy who argued that america was in the midst of a genocide of white people

because of nonwhite immigrants coming into america. the national review periodically has had to do these sorts of purchase. but the one they did in 1997 resulted in a new home being founded, effectively for people like that through the national review has to fire. in 1999, an organization was set up called vdare and, vdare stands for virginia deer who was supposedly the first white child born in colonial america. you can see where this is going, right? the founder of vdare, one of these guys who got fired from the national review for his whites only immigration stuff, he founded vdare basically said it up as an online hub for people to advance academy sounding and in -- racism. i don't mean that in a vague. way he calls himself a racial nationalist. what does that mean? it means that in this nation,

it should just be the one race. he said the obama administration was a minority occupation government. meaning it was not an american government, but it was a minority occupation by some foreign entity. he also says, forgive me for even quoting this, he says, hispanics, quote, specialize in rape. he says the and united states, quote, is a white nation. this is stuff that's off the edge, right? or at least, it used to be. in 2018, cnn reported that a speech writer in the trump white house had spoken out a white nationalist conference on the panel with the founder of vdare. a few days before election day in 2016. a and when that news came out on cnn, that speech writer was fired from the trump white house. but these guys have to land somewhere, right?

turns out that guy who went straight from appearing with the vdare guy at the white nationalist event the week of the 2016 election, he went, you know, straight from there to a job working in the trump white house as a speech writer there after, when he was fired from even the trump white house, he first briefly landed a new speech writer job with congressman matt gaetz who just tonight has filed this motion to vacate, to remove republican speaker of the house kevin mccarthy from his job, for the capital crime of working with democrats to keep the government open. so this guy, fired from the trump white house, briefly lands as a speech writer for matt gaetz. then he lands at a website. a right-wing website that among other things pushes the conspiracy theory that there wasn't really an attack on the u.s. capitol by a trump supporting mob on january 6th, 2021. that was actually an fbi operation. with fbi agents and informants and operators just pretending

to be trump supporters because for deep state, flatter, if qanon, whatever. nbc news reports in the last hour that it is bad guys far-right website that appears to have published the blueprint for right wing billionaire elon musk to by the social media platform formerly known as twitter to take a private, and then to basically kill it off as a means of helping the far right and hurting the united states of america. the article called it a, quote, declaration of war against the globalist american empire. so that's how things are going on the right! in the democratic party, its former president jimmy carter in hospice turning 99. he may yet eradicate guinea worm infection from the face of

the earth before he goes as part of his legacy of good works and practical post presidency decency and leadership. we've got the current democratic president running for reelection by showcasing how much he wants to work with democrats and republicans and how much it's okay to compromise and not get everything you want as long as you bring people together and he's committed to that. on the right it's a -- what's the phrase? a declaration of war against the globalist american empire. shaping the media landscape in america. and a former president indicted on 91 felonies and spending his days now trying to sick his supporters on the judges and prosecutors who are confronting him in court. both sides-ism about our two major political parties has really never been more -- in this country in modern

times. not in my lifetime. now it is not just unwarranted, it's malpractice. one of these things is not at all like the other. ben collins from nbc news joins us next. s join us next. end to your drive-through dinner rituals. throw that powder in that tasty combo of delightful carrots, and the rich touch of bok choy. knorr taste combos. it's not fast food, but it's soooo good. ♪ ♪ >> quote, if you have a passion

for protecting the integrity of elections and civic events, x is certainly at the center of the conversation. hashtag, twitter, hashtags, hashtag hiring. this was the head of the election integrity team at twitter, a little over a month, ago announcing the company was hiring eight new people for its election integrity department. lots of important elections coming up around the world, including our own next year. this might seem like an excellent time to strengthen the team a twitter that watches out for disinformation and threats related to elections. apparently not, though. last, week we learned that the new owner of twitter, right-wing billionaire elon

musk, just unexpectedly cut half of the election integrity team at the company, including the guy who just a month before said the company was hiring for that department. mr. musk confirmed the firings himself on twitter. since taking control of the company, a year ago, mr. musk has not only reinstated accounts that had been banned for harassment or misinformation or inciting violence, he's also taken some weird turns like when he started claiming the jewish civil rights group, the anti defamation league, for twitter's financial failings. for social media platform that had become ingrained in daily life and conversation, and politics, and, journalism for millions of people, his tenure there, it hasn't just been -- it hasn't just been the loss of a once reliable information platform. it has been that -- but it's also sometimes just been weird. which is what one makes a story

just out of nbc news so intriguing. it's new tonight from ben collins of nbc news. he writes, quote, on the day that public records revealed that elon musk had become twitter's biggest shareholder, an unknown senator texted the billionaire and recommended an article imploring him to acquire the social media network outright. must purchase of twitter, the 3000 board anonymous article said, would amount to a declaration of war against a globalist american empire. the center of the text was offering the tesla and space x ceo a playbook for the takeover and transformation of twitter, as the anniversary of musk's purchase of the platform approaches, the identity of the center remains unknown. the three texts were sent on april 4th, 2022. in the nearly 18 months since, many of the decisions made by musk after buying twitter appear to have closely followed that roadmap up to and including his ongoing attacks against the anti defamation league, a nonprofit organization founded by jewish americans to counter

discrimination. the article recommended to musk was published with no byline on the site, run by a far-right blogger and former trump white house speech writer who was fired in 2018 for speaking on a panel alongside white nationalists. asked by nbc news if he knew who sent the texts to musk and who wrote the article, that musk had recommended to him, the former trump speech writer declined to comment, instead suggested that the adl should be investigated. quote, i think i'm familiar with it, but i'm not in a position to comment on that, the man said. quote, i wish i could give you something else, but you should look into the atl. joining us now is ben collins, senior reporter for nbc news. ben, thank you for being with us tonight. i'm really intrigued by this new reporting. >> thank, you this is -- it's been a long journey with the story. >> tell me about. that first of, all tell me if i got anything wrong in the way that i explained, it and tell me about why it's been a long journey. >> no you got everything right there and it's been a long journey because we've been

trying to find out who's sent the text message. that text messages even public because twitter tried to sue elon musk to get him to go through the purchase of twitter last year. and elon initially said no, i'm not doing. that part of the discovery process was him revealing a bunch of these texts. most of these texts in that discovery process were publicly known who sent them. for example, richard spencer, the white nationalist, his name is in this trench of documents. it's a long laundry list of people, including and infowars host who's in the documents. but for some reason, despite a nine-month fight with the adult transfer court that my colleagues -- at msnbc month, are we still can't figure out who sent this text message. >> the text message recommended to mr. musk that he look at this article and the article laid out that he should by twitter, that he should buy twitter and use it as essentially as part of a project to destroy the american

empire. and it sort of laid out a series of things that he should do, but also ways in which people would react once he did those things. kind of laying out the way that twitter has collapsed and turned very, very right-wing. >> yes, this block outlines exactly what would happen for the next 18 months. basically says, you should invite back on all the far-right users. that might chase away most users, most people from this website that you now own, that you paid for. but it's worth it for the project. and by the way, you're going to lose all your advertisers. he set this up right. but then he says, i have a plan for that. you should blame the atl. which, to most people, what come out of left field in the past few. it's like why is musk so angry at the atl. but in this, fear what i would call the bane and sphere, this is where darren bayne sort of, loves the atl is a common

enemy. and beaty went on to this after it was published on his. lucky went on to tucker carlson's show -- which no longer exists -- basically beside the stuff 1 to 1. so i don't know exactly where elon musk is receive the, stuff probably when he texted. it but it is clearly a playbook that elon musk either ran directly parallel to or read from himself. directly parallel >> the thing e anti-defamation league being the target here is that this is a jewish civil rights organization to have these two things lineup where you've got the recommendations to mask, to do all these, things that he has done that will illicit a reaction that has occurred and then he should blame a jewish civil's rights group. to have that along with people proposing that sort of roadmap publicly, who are associated with white nationalists and the very -- ragged far-right fringe so

distasteful to even the trump right house that they felt the need to fire somebody from the white house who was espousing these kinds of ideas and associating with these people -- that to me just feels like fireworks. it feels like an incredibly dangerous thing. >> yes, if you actually look back through the and i've talked to a lot of people on elon musk over the last few months. but they want to say to you is while all the stuff looks like chaos and nonsense and he doesn't know what he's doing, is possible this guy had a plan. and just because a plan is bad and leads to bad outcomes for almost everybody, doesn't mean he didn't have a plan. and that's what we saw coming out of -- i was reading the end of this article, it's fascinating. he said -- will never be brought down unless people like elon musk managed to step up to the plate with a generally bold and risky meaningful moves like buying in the grading. twitter but it won't be, easy it will be war, let the battle begin.

that was what was texted to him, by the way, at the end. there and then they recommend hiring a ceo of enforcements which they were they were doing with the north korean. oh basically went to one, the strategy happened in realtime on twitter. so i'm just suggesting, maybe think about this as a plan. it's a bad plan for you and me, but it may have been a plan all along. >> ben collins, senior reporter for nbc news. ben, thank you for this reporting. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> we will be right back. right back what causes a curve down there? can it be treated? stop typing, and start talking. it could be a medical condition called peyronie's disease, or pd. and it could be treated without surgery. find a specialized urologist who can diagnose pd and build a treatment plan with you. visit makeapdplan.com today.

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for the civil case against him from writer e. jean carroll. that was a case in which she accused him of sexual assault and rape. the jury ultimately found trump liable for sexually abusing carroll. but trump never bothered to show up during that trial. he cared enough to show up today, presumably because this case is about a thing that is famously more important to him than anything else. which is how big people think his businesses. how rich people think he is. the judge in this case has already determined that trump did fraudulently inflated assets to make his net worth appear larger than it is. the trial that started today is just to determine what punishments the judge is going to impose. and those punishments could include barring trump from ever again operating a business in new york. joining us now is msnbc legal analyst lucy reuben who was in the courtroom today. lisa, i think you need a little bit of augmented pay for having suffered through all this today. but we're glad you, did it's nice to see you tonight.

>> good to see you too. >> one thing i do not understand is that this is a civil case, but it is not just about -- against business entities, which could have their business certificates canceled, those -- could be put into receivership, liquidated, or somehow forfeited in terms of their assets. what does it mean to have individual people, persons, identified as defendants in the civil case? what are donald trump, his adult sons, the senior executives from his company, personally facing by being named dependence in this case? >> one of the things that they're personally facing are a number of bans or bars on their ability to do business in the state of new york. and that would include anything from serving us, an officer, a director, or in the case of allen weisselberg, the former cfo and -- will being financial control people of companies. the other thing that donald trump himself could face here, rachel, is discouragement which is a fancy way of saying clawing back all the profits that he and his business entities got through this

persistent fraud that the attorney general has laid out through her 200 plus-page complaint last fall, and intends to further proof here at trial. >> that's money that they would take from the assets of a business entities involved, or that something that the individual people named as defendants would be personable responsible for? >> it is not clear to me that all the individual defendants are people from whom they can seek discouragement. but the short answer to your question is, yes, they can see could likely from donald trump himself, and they can seek it from the business entities. and indeed, one of the reasons that donald trump fears the dissolution of his company's through this action is that it's not clear how liquid he is and how much money he has in cash to satisfy the judgment that the attorney general is seeking here of at least 250 million. >> lisa, there was a lot of discussion today -- i think started mostly by president trump's lawyer, alina habba, and then also trump himself commenting on the same matter about the fact that this

case is being heard not before a jury but before just the judge. and that was a lot of discussion about that today. essentially saying that president trump and his legal team made a mistake. that if they had in fact wanted a jury which is what trump was complaining about today that they could've easily gotten a jury instead of ending up just before a judge if they had only sent in the correct form. and a lot of people are dumping on them today saying that they screwed that up just as a matter of basic paper paperwork. i i'm gathering from you talking today that is not quite that simple. can you explain how do you see that as having gone? >> they didn't -- the right to say that they didn't request a jury on trial, neither did the attorney general. but had they requested a jury trial, it's not clear that the could've gotten one because the belief that the attorney general is seeking here isn't the sort of relief that a jury can warrant. it's what's called equitable relief, and all these bans and bars on the trump's doing business here in new york as

well as the disclose man which is the climb back of profits rather than the awarding of damages, that's only for a judge to award. so yes, they could've tried and maybe the judge would've even bifurcated the trial, allowing the jury liability and just to him alone on the equitable portion. but, as everyone noticed today, they didn't try. and if you don't ask, you don't get. >> msnbc legal analyst lisa reuben, thank you so much. i know this is going to be a bear took cover as a stretch, over a likely two or three months trial schedule. i appreciate you being there for us,. lisa >> thanks. >> we'll be right, back stay right with. us right with us downy protects fibers, doing more than detergent alone. see? this one looks brand new. saves me money? i'm starting to like downy. downy saves loads.

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menendez with each day since that indictment, we've seen more and more calls for senator menendez to resign. over the weekend, it was delaware senator dawn carper who became the latest democrat to call for his senate colleagues to step down. that brings the total number of senators calling for bob menendez's recognition to 31. 31 senators calling on him to resign. all 31 of them are democrats. members of bob menendez's own party are senators who caucus with the democrats. not a single republican senator has called on menendez to resign. see, it's a very special kind of awkward. for republicans to make a big deal about a politician under indictment. democrats are really ready to say goodbye and give osha to them get because of this corruption indictment. but republicans find themselves in the situation where they feel like they can't say anything. another gift of the trump era in republican politics to the self esteem and dignity of today's republican elected

officials. senator bob menendez has so far resisted all calls that he should resign saying that he intends to stay in the senate. just last, week there was a poll from the group vote vets. which found, this is public policy polling, which is rope holding office. they found that the percentage of new jersey voters that they have a favorable opinion about menendez right now is 8%. not 80, not even 18, 8% approval rating among his own constituents. the same poll found that the percentage of voters who had an unfair view of prominent's is 74%. again, not a single republican in the senate is calling from menendez to resign. i should note that vote vets has endorsed a potential replacement for bob minute, is they've even endorsed for democratic -- out of his seat. but still, 8% is and astoundingly low approval rating for sitting u.s. senator and no leading, paul let alone

one who is up for reelection next year. it looks like senator menendez may be in the middle of his federal corruption trial right as voters get their first chance to decide whether not he stays in office. these are the wrong kinds of muscles for us to be developing as a country but, needs must. watch this space. watch this space

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