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will be the next speaker of the house. but who can get the votes needed to seal the deal? right now, the biggest healthcare strike in u.s. history is now in its second day. how it is already affecting patients. and in new york city, day four of the trump civil fraud trial under way. what his lawyers just did in an attempt to get the case dismissed. we begin this morning with a major update at the southern border. overnight, the biden administration announced it will wave 26 federal laws in south texas to make way for the border wall construction there. a move marks a significant policy reversal for the white house, which is called the border wall, quote, not a serious solution. here what he is then candidate biden said about the wall in 2020. >> there will not be another foot of wall constructed in my

administration. >> joining us now, nbc news senior white house correspondent gabe gutierrez and nbc's guad venegas. so, gabe, what happened at the white house overnight? why is this happening now? >> hi there, jose, good morning. several things. i spoke with the white house official that is putting back on the characterization that this has a -- that this is a direct result to the migrant influx that we have been seeing over the last several months. but here's what happened. overnight, published in the federal registry the department of homeland security asking to wave those 1026 environmental laws with regards to building this wall. and the reason the white house is saying that they're doing this at this point is because they had to, because this money was appropriated by congress in 2019 under the trump administration and in order to follow the law, the white house says, that's why they're having to build this barrier now. they say the original announcement for this was back several months ago in late june.

roughly 20 miles of the border barrier in star county, texas. so, again, that is why this is coming to light today. but, jose, as you said, this all comes as we're seeing this large migrant influx and several cities including new york and chicago especially now over the last several days and months have been saying that this is impacting their cities as well. and as you just heard there, president biden even just shortly after taking office, and the executive orders, said that, you know, building a border wall was essentially a waste of money. but, again, the white house now arguing that it had to use this money because it was appropriated by congress during the trump administration. jose? >> yeah, and, gabe, i'm reading the actual department of homeland security document that was released overnight. and in section one it says, the united states border patrols rio grande valley sector is an area

of high illegal entry as of august 2023 border control encountered -- to enter the united states in the rio grande valley, therefore i must use my authority to install additional physical barriers. it sounds to me, i'm reading what it says, that there is a direct correlation between 245,000 entrants at the rio grande valley and the announcement of a wall. >> yeah, that's what you're hearing from dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas as this administration tries to contain the fallout from those -- that increased -- those increased numbers of illegal border crossings that we have seen rise in the last several months. but, again, the white house says that also because this was the end of the fiscal year that, you know, this process that the -- since congress set aside that money in 2019, that you need to waive the environmental laws to get this construction done. certainly reaction pouring in from certain environmental groups that say this is a bad

idea and should not be done, jose. >> and, gabe, has there been any reaction from anyone on capitol hill? >> so far we're still looking for the reaction, but as i mentioned, there is a environmental group, there has been one down in texas, saying this is a horrific step backwards for the borderlands, jose. >> and meantime, guad, a federal hearing is happening as we speak over the floating barriers, those buoys in the rio grande river? >> that's correct. so floating barriers that were installed by state authorities. now the legal argument by the federal government is that they have jurisdiction over that part of the river. there is a law that says that any river where there is commercial traffic falls under federal jurisdiction. we don't have commercial traffic in that part of the river, so the state is going to try to argue that it is not under federal jurisdiction and, in fact, they did have a right to install those buoys. so that court ordered the original ruling from a federal judge that said texas had to remove those buoys, it put that

on hold. so we're waiting. we heard arguments from both the federal government and the state. now we have to wait for the court of appeals to decide, jose. this is a small part of that area where now as you have just mentioned they plan to build the border barrier, just a small section has floating barriers, which they have been criticized for other reasons, jose, not just the fact it is a floating barrier, but the dangers it poses because of the way it has been built. so it could be argued that it is a political statement. we haven't seen the flow of migrant slowdown in that part of the border, jose, and now we have this news that they're actually building a new barrier. so there are so many things happening at the border, we have to -- >> you've been there and gabe has been there, we have all been there a number of times. that -- those buoys in there are -- i mean, no one has confirmed died right on them, but there have been a lot of people who have been found, a lot of bodies found near that buoy area. what is it like there?

>> so we don't know exactly what would have caused the two bodies, the people that were found, what caused them to drown, perhaps in the river. what we know is the river is dangerous because the flow changes depending on the time of the day. it is always dangerous to cross the river with a current. now, with the barrier caused a lot of people to use a different part of the river, a different section that perhaps could have been more dangerous going around those barriers. so, again, it did not stop the numbers. it was more of a political statement made by the texas state administration and they kept it in the water until this court of appeals makes a decision as to what is going to happen next. this is -- it is one of the decisions that abbott made, installing the razor wire, putting in the floating barriers, using state resources to police the border because he believes the federal government isn't doing it. >> and also he has been using men, women and children that arrive there and putting them on buses and sending them to all different cities in the united states.

i thank you, guad venegas, and gabe gutierrez, for being with us this morning. and turning now to breaking news out of ukraine, president zelenskyy says that nearly 50 people have been killed in a russian missile strike at a grocery store in eastern ukraine. joining us now is nbc's richard engel. richard what more do we know about this attack? >> reporter: this was a terrible attack. a devastating attack on one particular village in eastern ukraine, a tiny village, a village that only has under normal times about 300 inhabitants in it. it is not far from the city of kharkiv. it is near the front line, but it is not a -- on the front line. and oftentimes when we covered ukraine, we talk about the front line and there are russian artillery and ukrainian artillery going back and forth and trenches. then just back from the front are a series of villages, and

they are still partially inhabited. a lot of elderly people, but not only. and it was in one of these villages, a very tiny one, around 1:00 this afternoon local time, people were having a memorial service, so there is a grocery store, and a cafe right next to each other. and in towns like this, where there are not many people to begin with, not many people remaining, a large percentage of the town appears to have been at this -- of the people still left in the town appear to have been at this memorial service when suddenly a russian missile exploded and killed nearly 50 people according to ukrainian officials. and president zelenskyy called it a deliberate act of terrorism by russia, bombing a grocery store, bombing a cafe, during a memorial. and russian president putin was speaking at an event in sochi and he gave his normal line,

apparently unmoved by this incident, saying, quote, as i said time and time again, russia didn't start the war in ukraine. just the opposite, is doing all it can to bring an end to it. no acknowledgement of responsibility for this attack or for the wider war in ukraine. but this particular incident with nearly 50 civilians killed or 50 people killed in a civilian area, including a 6-year-old, is one of the deadliest single attacks in ukraine, really since the start of the war, certainly in the last several months. >> richard engel, thank you so very much. appreciate it. coming up, the race to elect a new speaker of the house as another government shutdown looms. we'll hear from one of the contenders in an exclusive nbc news interview when we come back in 60 seconds. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. [sneeze] dude you coming? ♪

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11 past the hour, turning now to breaking news. we have just learned the former campaign treasurer for new york congressman george santos is set to plead guilty in federal court this afternoon in an ongoing federal criminal investigation. joining us now is nbc's tom winter. good morning. what else do we know? >> just a few things, jose, we're still waiting for the criminal information as it is called to be filed and docketed on the court. we know that nancy marks, who has been identified as the former treasurer of the george santos, congressman santos' campaign, is in fact scheduled to plead guilty at 3:00 p.m. in islip this afternoon. they say in the docket, there is a spot on there, if it says this is related to any particular case and it does say that it is related to the ongoing federal criminal investigation and indictment against the congressman from new york. he faces a 13-count indictment

tied to a host of charges including lying to the house of representatives and all sorts of other types of fraud charges. that case is ongoing. the congressman has professed his innocence and he said he's not guilty of those charges. but this is now another domino in that investigation. we don't know what specific conduct she is going to plead guilty to. we don't have any sort of sense as to whether or not there is a cooperation agreement, but i'll throw an asterisk on that sentence and say it would be unusual for somebody to plead guilty to an information at this stage or i would say more likely than not somebody pleading guilty to an information at this stage may indicate that individual is cooperating against the congressman, but we don't know and we'll have to see and so more details will become public later this afternoon. but, again, the bottom line is this, the former treasurer who has been identified for congressman george santos' campaign, nancy marks, slated to

plead guilty in charges related to the ongoing federal indictment against the congressman. >> tom winter, thank you so very much. appreciate that. now to the latest developments on capitol hill. nbc news oklahoma congressman kevin hearne has been making calls to colleagues to gauge support for a bid for speaker. this comes one day after the race kicked off in earnest with house judiciary chair jim jordan and steve scalise, the number two house republican, and announcing they would run. with us now to talk more about all of this, ali vitali, jake sherman, co-founder of punch bowl news and msnbc political contributor, and peter baker, "new york times" chief white house correspondent and msnbc political analyst. so, ali, you had a chance to speak with speaker candidate jim jordan this morning. what did he have to say? >> reporter: i had a wide ranging interview with congressman jordan this morning, touching on everything from clashes that are still to come on avoiding a government shutdown over ukraine funding

and over the way that he could work with president biden if he were elected to the speakership. i'll play for you a piece of that interview and talk about it on the back end. watch. >> -- tally the number of congress. i disagree with what he did. i said that many times. but he's a great member of our committee as well. but i don't think when you -- i'm not for that. we can't do that when you have a four-seat majority. >> a lot of people are frustrated with him. >> i understand that. and sometimes that takes time. emotions get raw when you have something like this happen. and, again, i think we got to come together. that's what we have to focus on. >> reporter: and when jordan says matt there he's talking about congressman matt gaetz and the calls that we have heard from some republicans to expel gaetz from the republican conference writ large. the only reason or one of the key reasons that republicans are in the position of having to anoint a new speaker is because gaetz was the consistent agitator against former speaker

mccarthy, the man who ultimately pushed that motion to vacate and was able to get colleagues to his cause, eight of them voting with democrats to oust mccarthy from his speakership just earlier this week. it is striking, though, that jordan would say that he doesn't want to kick gaetz out of the conference and frankly that he would go further saying that he's a valuable part of the conference. it is really a stark contrast to what we heard from mccarthy allies like garrett graves saying he hopes that there are consequences for what gaetz did. clearly in jordan's run for the speakership, that's not on the table. nor, i should state, is changing the motion to vacate. that is unless all republicans want to do it. when i asked jordan if he wouldn't just be in the same position that speaker mccarthy was in, having that one vote motion to vacate, hanging over his speakership, jordan said he would be okay if the whole conference wanted to change it but he's not going to look to democrats to help him get the majority vote that would change the motion to vacate.

that's going to have to come from within the republican family and frankly i think republicans have seen the upside to being able to wield power over a speaker and neutralize him. they saw it with mccarthy. not clear why they want to change that now for jordan, scalise or anyone else. >> jake, who is there? anybody that could get the votes needed to become speaker next week? >> i don't think next week, no, i don't. i think this is going to last some time. i couldn't tell you how long, jose. if i could, i would say. but i don't think -- i think it unlikely that they will get a speaker by next wednesday, which is wey want a speaker candidate. t's be clear here. jordan and scalise are pulling from the same power base. and that power base is the republican -- the conservative part of the republican conference, both of them, both jordan and scalise are former chairs of the republican study committee. they're both on the conservative end of the spectrum. they don't represent, neither of them represent anything

significantly unique from each other. they're effectively the same politician, have the same points of view, which is ironic because what we're seeing now and what ali alluded to is that there is a growing sentiment in the republican conference among the moderates to take a more let's say aggressive stance toward the right end of the conference, the people like matt gaetz who pushed kevin mccarthy out of the speakership. now, jordan and scalise are not going to do that. but, remember, when you have 221 republicans, a group of four, five, six moderates, could have huge impact. will they back down and be wimps? that's plausible. i think moderates in the republican conference have backed away from confrontation in my time covering congress and we'll see if they do that again here. but i'll be honest with you, i don't see any candidate right now and there could be some out there who would represent a more, you know, a more, i would

say, a bridge between the right and the center. and one more point, jose, in announcing that he was going to vote to table the resolution that eventually got through on the house floor, dan bishop, conservative republican from north carolina, said mccarthy represents the republican conference's composition. i think that's a smart point from bishop because republican -- he did actually, mccarthy in many ways represent that bridge between the moderates who he got elected, the conservatives who supported him by and large and scalise and jordan, i don't think at least to the extent that mccarthy did, i don't think either of them represent that bridge. >> so, jake, just quickly, so could it be that the speaker pro tempore could become the speaker pro permanente. >> he would have to get elected. the speaker pro tempore, this is something we spent a lot of time speaking about is relatively limited in what he could do, jose. and this is not been tested.

there is no precedent for this in the house of representatives, a body in which precedent is incredibly important. he's charged with shepherding the house toward the next election. it is an open question whether he could put legislation on the floor. we don't believe based on the multitude of sources we have spoken to that he can do that. but that might be tested. we don't know. so there is going to be no floor action as of now unless it is electing a new speaker of the house of representatives. >> and, peter, less than an hour from now the president is going to be meeting with his national security team to talk about the situation in ukraine. yesterday the president was asked if he was worried that ukraine funding could be in trouble because of the chaos on capitol hill. here is what he had to say about that. >> it does worry me. but i know there are majority of members of the house and senate and both parties who have said that they support funding ukraine. >> so, how worried is the white

house about the future of the u.s. for a situation like ukraine and anything else? >> well, i think it is a sign that our internal dysfunction, our internal squabbling among our politicians has real consequences outside our borders. because right now the person who is happiest about what is happening presumably is vladimir putin. he's watching this and saying this is a sign of western weakness of irresolve on the part of the united states and the west and ukraine and all he has to do is wait out the west, basically. he sees the congress waffling on whether or not to continue to fund this war effort against russian invaders, and he watches on the presidential level of candidate for the republican party nomination, donald trump, who made it very clear he's not going to continue to support ukraine if he were elected and would actually be much more pro russian in his outlook. so, for him, this is, i think, the strategy, wait out the american dysfunction and see if he can't turn it to his advantage. >> and, peter, the piece you

wrote today about the fight for speaker, this quote, he said, these days many watchgome and abroad, the american way n longer seems to offer case study in efftive representative democracy. instead it hase an example of disarray and discord, one that rewards extremism, challenges norms and threatens to divide a polarized country even further. how is the world viewing this chaos? >> well, i think that you know there had been a time not that long ago when we tried to export our ideas about democracy, that we held ourselves out to be a standard by which others could try to reach. not that we were ever perfect by any stretch, but we at least had a system that had a relatively functional, relatively stable source of governance and one that was kind of a model. that is not the case anymore. if you watch both friends and enemies around the world, they're watching either with dismay or with some degree of schadenfreude at this point

saying who are you to lecture us and there always has been this tension between the idea that the united states would presume to tell others how to run their countries, but now, of course, that's even more of a problematic stance than ever before and it encourages people, autocrats in countries that don't have democratic systems, to say, see, that democracy doesn't work, our system is better and no aspirational view of the united states the way that there used to be. >> yeah, churchill 1947, right, democracy is the worst form of government, accept for all other forms that have been tried from time to time. ali vitali, jake sherman, peter baker, thank you so much. this afternoon in san francisco the late california senator dianne feinstein will be remembered at her funeral service. a memorial will be closed to the public due to security concerns. some of those attending include vice president harris and senate majority leader schumer and

former house speaker nancy pelosi. feinstein passed away on friday at the age of 90 and has been lying in state at san francisco city hall where she began her political career more than 50 years ago. before being elected to the senate, she served as san francisco's first woman mayor. she was the longest serving woman in the history of the senate. up next, the biden administration canceling billions of dollars in student debt. who is qualifying for this? plus, at least 75,000 healthcare workers are on strike now for a second day. they say they're not asking for much. >> we're not asking problem part of the millionaire club. we're trying to be able to -- t- y do get all the perks? i'm talking about subway mvp. it's a way bigger deal. do you get a trophy for that? i wish. get rewarded like an mvp. join now and get 50% any footlong. (sean) i wish for the amazing new iphone 15 pro!

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permanente employees walked off the job on wednesday over failed contract negotiations. they're calling for better pay and benefits. as well as an increase in staffing to help address shortages. for people like the young family who were scheduled to have elective surgery for their 17-month-old son to address chronic ear infections, they are now facing delays. >> it is horrible to see him. i know it is a minor surgery, but to a parent and seeing your baby hit his ears and crying, it is heart breaking. >> joining us now from a picket line in los angeles, nbc's david noriega. who are you hearing from folks there? >> reporter: good morning, jose. what we hear from works over and over is by far the biggest issue here is staffing. all the other issues, pay and benefits, they lead back to staffing. they say there aren't enough of them doing their jobs, they have been burnt out for years, especially since the pandemic. they're rushing from patient to patient, making mistake they

don't want to be making and so on. the workers say patients were already facing delays as a result of the staffing crisis which is affecting the healthcare industry writ large. i asked several workers, what do you say to patients frustrated by the fact is delaying their care. here is what one had to say. what do you say to people who are frustrated their care is being disrupted by the strike? >> well, what i would say to our patients, i apologize, but, you know, we are fighting for you. >> reporter: the workers feel like they're doing this for the patients and the stakes are high. if this three-day strike doesn't work in their eyes, they're prepared to have given notice to strike again for five days, two days longer than this current strike, first week of november. jose? >> david, thank you very much.

appreciate it. this morning, positive signs for student loan borrowers as president biden canceled $9 billion in debt for 125,000 americans. cnbc's dominic chu is with us this morning. great to see you. so, could this new loan forgiveness announcement be challenged in a court or is it a done deal and who is it helping? >> i'm not sure anything can be a completely done deal to be honest, but the scope of this student loan forgiveness is somewhat more targeted. and may not be as likely to be challenged on the wholesale level kind of like what we saw with the president's previous attempt to wipe out an estimated $400 billion in student loan obligations. you may recall that effort was halted by the supreme court and trying to eliminate debt about $20,000 a piece for around 40 million plus americans. 125,000 borrowers will be the focus of the latest round. you mentioned $9 billion. $5 billion of that will go toward reducing debt for those who work in public service for

more tha decade. $2.8 billion will go towards though who enrolled in income driven repayment type plans. and the balance is going to go towards those with disabilities. so, that's the target of this particular round. now, the sum total with this latest round of forgiveness brings the administration's total approved debt wipeout to roughly $127 billion for about 3.6 million borrowers. it remains to be seen whether this targeted approach toward student loan forgiveness stirs any other legal challenges, but for now, jose, the president's plan to find those alternative ways to relieve student loan debt without violating the supreme court's decision appears to be holding, but it is very different when it is 3.6 million americans as opposed to what could have been 40 plus million americans with the previous plan, jose. >> dominic chu, thank you very much. now to an alarming report which found firearm related

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behind me. reminiscent of some of what went on yesterday afternoon. the attorney general's office is continually objecting that trump's lawyer is going year after year with these financial statements with donald bender who is still on the stand and cross examination and the judge also seeming to get agitated saying essentially how long will this take, how long, how long, reminiscent of yesterday when the judge at one point yelled this is ridiculous and pounded the bench because he wanted all of these years and property assets to be lumped together. so, remember the trial is -- could be as long as three months. the judge is trying to speed things along. the defense team says they should be done with cross examination of bender today. we expect to hear next from trump organization controller jeffrey mcconney, but the judge is irritated with the repetitive nature of the cross examination. but the defense trying to establish certain things about these financial statements like

he did recognize anything necessarily any glaring inconsistencies or anything inaccurate, jose. >> so, meanwhile, the judge set a timeline to make sure the former president and other defendants are complying with this order to cancel their new york business certificates? >> reporter: right, jose. so the trump team is appealing the judge's summary judgment from last week, essentially finding trump liable for fraud and dissolving some of his llcs, including the trump organization llcs. the judge in a new order today gave the parties until october 26th to identify names for potential receivers to oversee the dissolution of the llcs. the crux of this case is really not only monetary damages, the ag's office asking for $250 million, but certainly curtailing trump and some of his business associates and children, adult children, from being able to operate businesses in new york. and so, now it will also be up to a receiver to determine what

the dissolution looks like. that's who they need to name by october 26th, give some potential names and also there is an independent monitor as part of this case. so as part of this order, the judge is also saying that any movement of assets liabilities have to be made known to that independent monitor. jose? >> lindsey reiser, thank you very much. good seeing you. coming up, pressure is mounting for president biden to head on tackle the humanitarian crisis that started at the border, but that is now impacting cities across our country. and it is coming from both sides. we're going to talk about that next. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. in diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. . i want another option that's not another drop. tyrvaya. it's not another drop. it's the first and only nasal spray for dry eye. tyrvaya treats the signs and symptoms of dry eye disease fast by helping your body produce its own real tears. common side effects include sneezing, cough,

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how do you categorize what overnight the biden administration announced? >> well, jose, it looks like this is a promise broken. there is no easy way to describe this other than a flip-flop from president biden. he said in the 2020 campaign that he would not build another foot of trump's border wall, that it was a waste of money, didn't make any sense, and here we have the department of homeland security saying they're going to wave 26 federal laws to build more wall, more quickly, and one of two things is happening, i think, either the right-hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing and earlier on the program you read a press release by dhs that is different from what the white house is saying. so that's possible. or i think more likely this is responsive to the pressure, especially the attacks from republicans that biden has gotten that i think he and his

team are probably afraid is making him seem too soft on immigration. so they're taking a political gamble here, and the gamble is that by basically what they think of as moving to the middle on immigration and seeming harsher on it, that they're going to gain more votes in 2024 than they'll lose from unenthusiastic progressives who want to hold him accountable for what he said he would do on immigration, which is different from what he's doing. it is a risky gamble. >> yeah, i mean, carlos, what is that gamble politically? >> well, jose, i think this is an admission of two things. number one, that the current immigration policies just aren't sustainable when you have thousands of people coming across the border, most americans see that and they just don't want to tolerate that. and then secondly, there is an understanding here of the politics of all of this.

we have seen all the latest polling, the current president is tied with the former president, a lot of people on president biden's team are starting to take note of some of his vulnerabilities and this is a big one. this is the president admitting we cannot stay the course on immigration, we have to make a change, both in terms of policy and politics. >> julian, one of the many times that you had some, you know, very noteworthy moments over the years of your career as a public servant, you know, there is that debate in july of 2019 when, you know, you and at the time the former vice president went into the very specifics on issues of immigration and migration, the difference between immigration and the border of people requesting asylum. just wondering, one of the things you said back then when you told them, first of all, mr. vice president, it looks like one of us learned from the lessons of the past and one of

us has not, what are some of the lessons when you think that -- from the past that many people haven't learned? >> well, i think that, you know, it is clear over the years that democrats are not going to get ahead by trying to look as extreme as republicans on immigration. yes, you have to make sure you're taking concrete steps to ensure that the border is secure, that you have an asylum system that is orderly, and that people understand that. but what has happened over the last few years is that trump has moved the so-called overton window of what we think of as more acceptable on immigration. everybody out a border wall whep did it was against trump's border wall, should be against a border wall now. even representativs in texas --

one representative was saying the administration wasn't doing enough. he said a border wall is not the solution. a border wall has been in a different category than other measures. this is an administration that drug its feet on ending title 42 and remain in mexico. throughout this administration, there has been this habit of basically ceding the issue of immigration. i'm convinced is not only is that a bad policy -- you build the border wall and it's the symbol of america more than the beacon of light from the statue of liberty. that changes the country. you will never get enough credit for it in 2024. there are better and smarter things the administration could do and could put up more of a

fight and put forward a positive plan so that republicans don't just fill the vacuum with negativism and fear. >> there's a big group of republicans who say they don't plan do anything on ukraine unless something is done at the southern border. joe manchin was asked why it has been harder to sell funding for ukraine to the general public. >> which one are you more concerned about? are you concerned about the border or about ukraine? are you concerned about the high cost and inflation or ukraine? people say, wait a minute, that's second on my list or third on my list. >> how do you fix this politically? >> senator manchin is right, this is a false choice. republicans should admit that we can both address the crisis at the border and support ukraine in its war against russia. but this is a problem in the republican party right now.

there are a lot of people who are becoming isolationists. this conservative populism has pushed a lot of republicans to look inward instead of promoting a robust leadership role for the u.s. across the world. republicans will take advantage of this crisis at the border to try to get some concessions from the administration on immigration policy. i think they will be successful. having said that, i don't think they should couple the two issues. we should support ukraine, and we should also do something at the border. >> talking about crises, what's going on on capitol hill with republicans? >> that's the other problem. we are talking about demands republicans might make, but you have to have a leader. you have to have a speaker to make demands. you have to have a speaker to pass laws out of the house, to pass bills out of the house. republicans need to get organized. the party is in complete chaos. there's still a lot of anger and resentment in the house

republican conference. it seems difficult to believe they will have a speaker by wednesday of next week. >> i want to bring in gabe gutierrez at the white house. we are having this conversation this morning about the announcement that there will be a building of a 20-mile stretch of wall in the rio grande valley area. what are you hearing from the white house? >> reporter: yes, as we said earlier in the program, this was a project that was announced in late june. the white house now announcing that it is waiving the environmental laws. i'm hearing from a white house official who insists that the building of this wall and the waiving of the environmental laws had nothing to do with increasing pressure from fellow democrats such as new york governor kathy hochul and mayor eric adams. this official told me that in order to follow the law, we had to use this money.pointing out

money was appropriated in 2019. the official made the case that at least part of this was due to the end of the fiscal year. they needed to go for this waiver. as you read from the notice, posted in the federal register, dh secretary mayorkas saying there is presently an acute and immediate need to construct physical barriers in the vicinity of the united states in order to prevent unlawful entries into the u.s. in the project areas. that area of texas, the rio grande valley seeing a huge influx of migrants. >> gabe gutierrez at the white house. up next, it's the murder case that grabbed national attention whether it became the subject of the popular serial podcast. why attorneys went before a

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confused. this particular hearing happened because the legal team for the brother of the victim, who was murdered in 1999, success it willy argued before the appeals court earlier this year to overturn the overturning of the conviction. it has nothing to do with whether he is guilty or innocent. this hearing came to be because the victim's brother's attorney told the appeals court in march that he felt the victim's family didn't receive enough notice to attend the hearing where the conviction was overturned. take a listen. >> this is extremely painful, as you say. this is an ongoing living memory. justice should be served in this case. there has been a terrible injustice here. there may be another injustice with respect to syed. that remains to be seen.

>> syed's legal team said the victim's family did have the opportunity to attend, but it was virtual. this is a case of whether or not appearing for a hearing virtually is sufficient to not violate the rights. we will not get a decision today. we may not get it this year. in the meantime, syed remains a free man. >> thank you so very much. appreciate it. that wraps up the hour for me. you can reach me on social media. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," speaker search. the race is on between the first two contenders, while critical talks to avoid a government shutdown grind to a halt. jim jordan is speaking exclusively to ali vitali about where the caucus stands. >> i think we have to come together. that's what we have to focus on.

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