thank you for that. that's going to do it for us this hour. join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. "katy tur reports" starts right now ♪♪ good to be with you, i'm katy tur. the house gop says they will hold a vote for a new speaker next week. right now the house is in recess as republicans scramble to figure out who can lead them. there are two well known lawmakers who have already announced a run. you've heard them, steve scalise and jim jordan, but neither are a shoe in. scalise is a prolific fundraiser with a compelling personal story. he survived being shot by a deranged political activist, and is right now battling blood cancer, but he's universally liked. and right now he doesn't have the support of the former speaker, kevin mccarthy, to whom

he was number two, at least not public support. jordan is known for punchy interviews on cable news, for leading hard liner investigations in support of president trump and against president biden. he's a member of the freedom caucus who could theoretically help the extreme of the party get in line. he's making the rounds selling what he could do. here he is with nbc's ali vitali this morning. >> one of the things the country wants is the government to stay open. how would you deep with the looming government shutdown on november 17th. >> send the bill, the bipartisan bill, the no government shutdown act you, get the shutdown politics and this chaos, and all the crisis is coming, you get that off the table, and you pass legislation. which is common sense. it's bipartisan, and is t simply says if you don't get your work done, you stay here and get it done. it's around the clock. >> it sounds reasonable but reasonable is not the

representation reputation jordan has, in places like new york, home to freshman congressman which is the reason the gop has a majority right now. we're going to ask one of them if it's political dangerous for them to support jordan or scalise for that matter. meeting the task of figuring out who can get enough votes to lead the gop is potentially going to take a lot longer than anyone anticipates. and while they, the gop, try to figure out what to do next, the house is closed for business, which is scary considering the government is headed for a shutdown, and now 30 working days, a problem that frankly extends beyond our shores. as the ”the new rkimes” puts it today, quote, these days to many watching at home and abroad, the american way no longer seems offer a case study, an effective retative democracy. instead, it has become an example of disarray and discord,

one that rewards, extremism, challenges norms and threatens to divide a polarized country even further. joining us now, nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake, talking to us about how the international community is seeing this, chief foreign correspondent richard engel. you've got scalise, jordan, what is the likelihood that either one of them can get to 217? >> reporter: they both certainly have a path, and command a significant amount of report within the republican conference. jordan has been the more active candidate, out publicly doing the interview with ali vitali, he was on fox news, and had allies release endorsements on social media, trying to lock up some early support. scalise has been moving behind the scenes, and seeing what kind of coalition he can put together. the silence thus far of kevin mccarthy, i think, is notable, though it's not entirely clear

that his endorsement would move some of the people who were among those eight who said they didn't want to support him. matt gaetz has been public that he could support either of these two men. i think what we're going t see early next week is a significant behind the scenes battle. house republicans are not going to take this on to the floor. with uncertainty about who will be the speaker. they want to try to avoid anything that looks like what we saw in january. i think we'll see a lot of activity tuesday and wednesday behind the scenes, and based on conversations i have been having, possibly thursday, friday and into the future if neither of these folks looks like they can get the majority of the conference, to be the speaker designate like mccarthy was, to have the 217, 218 sewn up to avoid a public spectacle. >> like we saw in january. >> let me ask you, though, about gaetz or the seven people who decided to vote mccarthy out, the eight people who did so, but

what about the moderates? yesterday, i had mike lawler from new york on, and he wouldn't say whether he would support scalise or jordan. he kept dancing around the question. i'm going to ask mark molinaro who comes on in a few seconds. a scalise or a jordan speakership would not be particularly helpful for them in trying to get reelected. >> it's not just the front liners. i don't know that it's the concerns about either two individuals specifically. i talked to lawler about this ironically today. i saw an interesting interview with dusty johnson, the republican mainstream, the most institutionalist branch of the house republican party who said if we don't change the rules that got us to this point, you're changing the driver of the clown car, and these eight or any other sort of small group upset about something could continue to hold the conference hostage. i don't think the concerns are aboutse or jordan as an

effeiv leader. the big concern is unless you change the rules in a way that the majority of house republicans can act like a majority, they're going to continue to get led by radical members or organized group of three to five, and that's not a situation that the mike lawler's of the world can accept. >> let's take again about what this looks like overseas and, richard, i said at the top of the show, it's worth repeating, instead of democracy we have projected around the world, these days it's become an example of disarray, discord, one that rewards extremism, challenges thunderstorms and threatens to divide a polarized country even further. peter baker cites the court cases into donald trump, january 6th, president biden's age but also cites all of this drama we're seeing in congress, and remember, this is after a big debt ceiling fight that was world was worrying about, and a

government shutdown we're barrelling to again. >> the country that sees this the most and feels this the most is certainly ukraine. they are feeling very frustrated, very powerless right now because their future is entirely dependent on washington behaving normally. functioning as normal, not shutting down. not kicking budget issues down the road. having a degree of consensus. today there was a horrible attack on a village in eastern ukraine, a tiny village about 330 people in the village and the latest toll is 51 of those 300 people were killed in a single russian attack. a memorial was being held at a cafe and a russian missile came in around 1:00 in the afternoon and destroyed it. terrible attack. in terms of the death toll, one of the bloodiest in several

months actually. these kinds of attacks happen daily, and president zelenskyy is in spain at the moment. he's been trying to rally support for his country. he's been trying to rally -- make sure that the money from europe flows as funds are now held up in the united states because of this political infighting, mostly within congress right now. so a lot of countries are watching the united states with concern. but none of them are watching with the same degree of concern as ukraine, which is actively in a hot war. is actively being attacked every single day and doesn't have the ability to change it, at least the russians, the ukrainians can fight against the russians. here they can't criticize their ally for fear of picking a fight. as if president zelenskyy today sort of went there. he said that president biden during his last trip to

washington during president zelenskyy's last trip to washington assured him that ukraine would continue to get american support. he said that president biden gave him this assurance, but he did recognize this is a difficult political time in the united states, and that has brought out, quote, strange voices. >> president biden isn't the final authority on this. he's got to get congress to give him the money, and congress right now is not unanimous about it. richard engel, garrett haake, thank you very much. joining us is democratic congressman and ranking member jim himes, i want to ask you about the international reaction to what we're seeing happening in washington, d.c. but first i want to get your thoughts on whether there is a leader of the republican party that the democrats will be able to work with going forward. >> well, katy, i certainly hope so. you know, nothing works under republican majorities until the democrats step in.

this was true on the debt ceiling rescue, the country was going to go into default. it was true less than a week ago, when the entire democratic caucus, save one, voted for the continuing resolution that kept the government open. whoever it is, if they choose to govern exclusively try to corral their very very slim majority, they're not going to be successful in doing that. >> you know, i was asking this yesterday, do you ever see there being a scenario where there is a unity leader, somebody that can cross both aisles and can really work with the center of both parties to get things done. right now, there's so much partisanship, i'm with you or against you, and very little middle ground. it would be a welcome sign for americans to see somebody that wasn't so identified with either one of the parties coming in and leading to get work done. >> well, katy, i have been on your show dozens of times. you know that i am often the

last to go to a partisan argument, but let me say this. this is not a democracy problem. i was listening to the show for the last five minutes, and oh, my goodness, democracy is in trouble in the united states, no, this is not a democracy problem. this is not a problem that is republican caucus and the democratic caucus, a mere ten months ago when nancy pelosi was speaker of the house, with precisely the same size majority that kevin had, we passed bipartisan bill after bipartisan bill. the largest investment in infrastructure since the 1950s. we passed a bill that supported the c.h.i.p.s act, i could go on and on and on. when democrats control the house, massive problem with democracy. we have a problem with the republican party. and by the way, it's the right, international right in israel, it's not the labor party that's benning that country in two. it's a right wing nationalist

party led my netanyahu in great britain. that brought us boris johnson and liz truss, this is the fact that the right wing around the world and certainly in the republican party has gotten to the point where they say you cannot work with democrats or you are a traitor. ten months ago we were working with republicans. >> let me ask you this, though, i understand it's not an all encompassing democracy problem, but democracy is what is allowing a lot of these problems to persist in the republican party the way that democracy has allowed gerrymandering, and been upheld by the supreme court to make districts extreme and protect those extreme elements and they go to congress, and democracy is what gave republicans the majority, so democracy is at issue here. it's not functioning on one side and that one side is the side of power. do you not hear that as a member of the intelligence committee from our allies around the

world, the concern about what our institutions are able to withstand? >> i hear it all the time. i hear it all the time, and i don't need to hear it to know that this sort of tableau is exactly what vladimir putin, and exactly what premiere xi in china want. it's really important that we understand that this is not a fundamental problem with democracy. that, by the way, is precisely vladimir putin's case, and that's not what we're talking about here, and it's important to realize that. we don't have time to go into a government 101 thing, but why is it that the republican party is clinging to those things that are undemocratic in our system, the electoral college, the state of wyoming has the same number of senators as the 40 million people in california. they are increasingly gravitating to undemocratic

methods. matt gaetz brought down the house representatives. this is not a democracy problem. that is fire breathing right wing problem, not just in the united states, but around the world. >> congressman jim himes, thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate it. coming up next, new york delivered them the majority, so who do the republican lawmakers in biden districts need as speaker? congressman mac molinaro joins me next, i'm going to ask him. sidney powell's lawyers are in court, what they're asking a judge with just two weeks left before her trial. >> and president biden is building a wall. how the administration is justifying the move after vowing not to build another foot. we're back in 60 seconds. we're back in 60 seconds since my citi custom cash® card automatically adjusts to earn me more cash back in my top eligible category... suddenly life's feeling a little more automatic. like doors opening wherever i go... [sound of airplane overhead]

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five of them in districts biden won in new york. what sort of speaker do they need to help them win again in 2024? joining us now is republican congressman from new york, marc molinaro. thank you very much for joining us. always good to see you. you tell me, what sort of speaker do you need? >> i think actually that's a good place to start. i'm not committing to a person. i need the person to commit to a couple of realities, one, we are functioning in a bipartisan government, and any solution to any american problem needs to result in bipartisan agreement. so i need a speaker who recognizes that. and i've said this before, and whether viewers agree or not, no one person in congress works harder certainly to help us secure the majority and support members like me than kevin mccarthy, and he had three, four years to accomplish my support or secure my support. the men and perhaps women who wish to be speaker of the house

have seven days. there needs to be a commitment to the reality that we have to govern, we have to deliver on our commitments to the people i represent. >> what are you hearing from your constituents? i believe you're back home today, about what's happening in the house? >> yeah, i came home for about 24 hours. i have been thankful to be involved in a lot of really important conversations about moving the needle. there are members like me who need us to stop the bomb throwing and focus instead on delivering. the folks i represent, you know, in upstate new york, we know what it's like to have a government that's dysfunctional. we too often see it in albany. what they want are results. they couldn't care less about motions to vacate or psycho pseudo political theater. what they care about is are we going to fight inflation, secure the border, are we going to help the most vulnerable in our communities. that's what they want us to address, and i need the next speaker of the house to hear those voices to give us a seat at the table and make sure we're

focused on delivering those things. >> jim jordan is a fire brand, especially among democrats some of your constituents as well. he's leading an impeachment inquiry on president biden on no confirmed evidence. he has been a loud voice for the freedom caucus, in the past he shut down the government. now he says he doesn't want to do that any longer. do you think jim jordan as speaker is going to help you win election in 2024. >> i spent a lot of time telling people what i do. on behalf of members like me, and people like the ones i represent. i'm listening and i'm making certain my voice is heard before making a determination on who's speaker of the house. >> you know who jim jordan is, he's been around a long time. you know who he is. >> every human being has the capacity to rise to the moment. i don't accept the premise that no one person could meet my expectation, and that's truly a horrible argument to make. i think at the end of the day, i need somebody who's going to

commit to giving voice to the people i represent, and right now, i'm not willing to commit to anybody but rather hold them accountable and try to seek the best representative, i think, to get us back to governing. >> what about the extremist in your party have on your ability to do anything. i don't just mean matt gaetz. outs forces, "the new york times" is reportingn what steve bannon is doing behind the scenes, and they write this, from his cave like studio, not far from where congress meets, mr. bannon has been stoking the chaos now gripping the republican party, capitalizing on the spectacle to build his own following, and using his popular podcast to prop up and egg on the gop rebels. how do you govern when you have somebody like that who can be so influential among enough members in your conference to shut the government down? >> i think, again, there are

members like me who are committed to governing, and the overwhelming majority of the house republican conference are, in fact, committed to governing, and let's be respectful here. both parties have individuals who dwell in caves and brew chaos. my focus and our focus has to be bringing people together, and governing, and i think there's a good number of us, and certainly enough of us to get there. i would offer, my colleague was on the show a few moments ago, you know, this is a question for democracy. everyone has the choice. do you stand in support of the institution, of the people you represent or do you point across the aisle and say, hey, that's your problem. we gladly celebrate your demise. i think we all have to take stock and be part of the solution, and simply suggest -- >> how do you deal with the extremes of your party, and the democrats will say, you know,

we've never ousted a speaker before, the republicans are the first to do, so and you were able to do it because one guy, matt gaetz brought that motion -- let me ask you, how do you govern, i know the vast majority of the republicans want to get work done, in the camp you're in, but there are enough republicans who don't seem to agree with you on fundamental issues like how to keep the government out, the cr was passed by the majority of democrats, not republicans. how to get to bipartisan legislation on big issues like immigration, affecting this entire country, it's my way or the highway, don't you need to find a way to figure out how to work with the other side, and can you do it when you have, you know, those rebels on your team? >> accept the premise, democrats when in charge of the house, if they wanted to confront immigration would have confronted immigration.

both parties have to function in a bipartisan manner. whoever is the next speaker has to confront the rules to ensure accountability. we can't allow any one person to upend the house congress or undermine the work of this federal government. but, no, democrats didn't sit on the sideline, and it wasn't the result of one person a few days ago. and i've lived through this as a new york elected official. i see what corruption looks like. you have a choice. last week there was a choice. we could uphold the institution or simply point across the aisle and side with one or two maybe members of my party, and undermine the institution. there was a choice that certain people made. i don't think it was right for those eight to make it. i don't think it was right for 10 or 15 good decent democrats to simply suggest, hey, your house is burning, we're going to add some kerosene to it. i think all of it is crap. i think the american people are tired of it.

and they just want members like me to focus on delivering real results. >> i understand there's a lot of directed toward democrats as well. one quick question, and we're out of time. will you support a speaker who does not change the rules to make the motion to vacate something that can only be done with more than one person, a majority of republicans or in leadership so it's not one guy or girl. >> i'll support a speaker who's committed to working toward that solution. >> thank you so much for joining us, congressman mac molinaro, we appreciate your time. up next, donald trump's legal team is filing a flurry of motions across his court cases this afternoon. what he's asking for in new york specifically, and why is he doing it right now? and the biden administration is building a wall. what changed? at changed

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there is a lot happening in trump world now. if fulton county, sidney powell's lawyers are in court right now argue to go dismiss the racketeering charges if the judge denies the request, her trial begins in just about two weeks. and in new york, donald trump is not in the courtroom today for day four of his civil fraud trial, but his attorneys just filed a motion to stay the ag's case as he awaits a ruling on his appeal. joining us now is nbc news correspondent blayne alexander who's outside the fulton county courthouse, and nbc news correspondent, lindsey reiser who's outside the courthouse in new york city for us, and former manhattan assistant district attorney and an nbc news legal analyst, catherine christian. i want to begin with you. i want to ask specifically about the stay today and what could have prompted the filing on today of all days. what did the judge ask for from trump's team today?

>> it's all about the scope of his stay, katy. we knew the trump was going to appeal the summary judge from the judge last week. the judge ruled trump was liable for fraud based on over valuation of his assets. we knew it was going to the appellate decision. after lunch they talked about the idea of the stay. we don't know the scope of that stay. is it a stay on the consequences of the summary judgment, so the dissolution of the llcs, naming receivers for that process, letting an independent monitor who's a former judge about the movement of assets and liabilities or a stay of the entire trial. the attorney general's office, much to that chagrin did not like they weren't getting the scope of this. their 24 hours notice was not sufficient because they don't know about the scope but they did continue on with the trial with trump's attorneys saying they're going to be filing stay

with the appellate division. >> can i get your legal analysis on that point in particular, the idea that he's filing a stay while awaiting the appeal, why didn't his lawyers do that before the trial started. >> the day after the judge issued his decision basically finding trump liable and the organization liable under executive law, now they're going to appeal it and move to stay the trial. and that they didn't, is shocking. today they're going to do. it's unclear if they want to stop the trial or stop the dissolution of the businesses. that makes more sense because there's just no way that the appellate division is going to stay stop the trial. >> what is the judge going to consider when he looks at whether to allow the stay on the dissolution of the properties. >> he's going to say for what purpose, why. let's start the process now. he hasn't given a lot of clarity for what it will look like when

dissolving the businesses. there's been a monitor appointed and he's keeping her on. he's the judge, barbara jones, a former federal judge so his opinion is let's do it now. the defense, i could see, is like what's the hurry, let's wait until the entire trial, let's see whether we win or lose. if we win, meaning you may not do $250 million penalty for us, but the judge's position will be that i may not do that but i've already said that your business certificates are cancelled. >> the judge issued the gag order regarding donald trump and what he could say about his staff, specifically his clerk. donald trump has been going after the ag, the judge, not anyone else on the staff since that gag order. did you get any indication from the judge that maybe he would be extending the gag order for the ag or anybody else who might be

involved in the se? >> reporter: the judge hasn't addressed the gag order again. this entire process, the judge has been subject to the scrutiny here. of course we know that trump's team is going to be appealing, saying that this judge is biassed. trump has been saying that in front of the cameras, that he's a democrat judge. he knows how he's going to rule, and yesterday there was something sort of interesting. the judge wished a very happy birthday to kevin wallace on the ag team, and, you know, it was interesting because in the overflow room, some of them groaned because of these accusations that the judge is facing, however, it is known among the legal circles that the judge is very into birthdays. he has mentioned members of the trump team's birthday. someone has a birthday on december 23rd. they want to make sure they're done with the case. the judge has said himself, jovial, he takes his job seriously. he doesn't seem to have been

changing his behavior as a result of the scrutiny he's under. >> blayne, sidney powell's attorneys are inside, and they're arguing for the case to get dismissed entirely, what are they saying? >> reporter: well, katy, that hearing just wrapped up within the past couple of minutes or so, but after about 90 minutes, it certainly appears the judge is not inclined to dismiss those charges. he seemed to lean that way towards the end of the hearing. d.a. fani willis's team is engaged in prosecutorial misconduct. she had nothing to do with the data breach in coffee county, and for that reason, this entire thing should be dismissed. the state pushed back forcefully on that, that's not true, there's no basis for that. here's a little bit of the argument that we heard from the back and forth inside that courtroom. first you'll hear from brian rafferty, the attorney for sidney powell, and then you'll hear from wooten, who's arguing

on behalf of the state. take a look. >> as i said, ms. powell had nothing to do with coffee county. she didn't have anything to do with it. i have been contending that. i have been contending that there's evidence that shows that, so that testimony, e-mails, documents, other information that demonstrates that people were asked, what do you know about ms. powell connected to coffee county, and they say nothing. never talked to her. never spoke with her. never net met with her. all of that information is brady. >> and the fact is the defendant's pleadings and arguments are based on falsehoods, and the state takes these allegations against us very very seriously, the allegation that we're withholding evidence, suppressing evidence and committing prosecutorial misconduct are outrageous, they're not true. >> reporter: so while we're hearing those arguments from both sides, further complicating sidney powell's argument is the fact that just a few days ago,

last week, we had another codefendant, scott hall plead guilty. and part part of the guilty plea,idney powell entered into the agreement with the firm that gather t information from coffee cnt that further underscores t state's case, and makes it difficult for her to argue to have the whole thing dismissed. >> is this what you do if you're a defense attorney? >> this is what you do. a checklist, i have made every argument on behalf of my client, and if we have an appeal, i can argue i made a record of every single legal issue possible. >> october 23rd, still going to happen? >> you know, things happen often where trials don't start, people get sick. people plead guilty. so i think it's going to happen. >> donald trump is also trying to dismiss the federal election interference case against him. what argument does he have? >> he's arguing that he's immune. what he did was part of his

presidential duties, so he's not saying it was election interference, he's saying it have election advocacy, and that's what he was supposed to do as a president. what it could do is cause a delay. you cannot appeal a motion to dismiss, you have to wait until you're convicted. in this case, because it involves that, he might be allowed to appeal to the d.c. circuit court of appeals and then the supreme court. that's the hope. it's all about delay. >> thank you very much. you're blowing up right now. i'm going to allow you to answer that phone call. thank you very much, what alejandro mayorkas said about the need for a border wall last night. d about the need for a border wall last night. oh. no it's just a bunny! calm down taco. sit duchess. stop! sesame no no. archie! walter don't, no, ahhhh. ahhhhh! you're lucky you're so cute. only pay for what you need.

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laws to allow construction on the trump era border wall to continue along the rio grande. it is a major reversal for a president who vowed this on national television as a candidate. >> there will not be another foot of wall constructed in my administration. >> now in response, the president argues congress tied his hands on the money. >> let me ask you one question on the border wall, the money was appropriated for the border wall, i tried to get them to reappropriate it, to redirect that money. they didn't. they wouldn't. and in the meantime, there's nothing under the law under than they have to use the money for what it's appropriated for. i can't stop that.

>> joining us now, the atlantic staff writer focused on immigration, caitlan dickerson, won the 2003 pulitzer prize -- 2023 pulitzer prize. the president says he doesn't think the border wall works, he does not want to build this. it is appropriated money he can not change, but his dh secretary said it was necessary. there have been a ton of crossings until the area where they're going to build the wall. can you explain the disconnect? >> well, this is one example of many, katy, of conflict within the democratic party over how to deal with this influx of people currently crossing the border, and you know, instead of seeing democrats come together led by president biden to come up with a solution, they're fighting with each other. they're blaming each other, whether you're talking about new york city mayor, eric adams criticizing the president,

governor of new york, kathy hochul criticizing the president. the governor of illinois, the list goes on, i think what happened between secretary mayorkas and the president was a probably a miscommunication, but definitely a reflection of deep seeded issues, that i think can be summed up as a lack of leadership from the white house on this issue. >> do you see this becoming a bigger issue in the coming months and ahead of the election, you have, as you said, the mayor of new york who's currently down in mexico, trying to figure out how to solve the problem. you have the governor of new york and the governor of illinois, basically saying, we need a lot more money to handle this. the government needs to come up with a solution on this. we are at capacity, and the migration issue is breaking us. mayor adams is trying to suspend a ruling that in new york city that says that everybody who's on the streets has a bed in the shelter because there is no more room in any of the shelters. it's a humanitarian issue. it's a big issue.

does the biden administration not seeing that as a major problem that could be a political issue for them, a political problem for them, in 2024? >> well, if they done see it now, they're going to have to. your question was is this going to become a bigger problem leading up to 2024. the main issue with immigration, katy, that i have seen over the years again and again is that we don't know when numbers are going to increase and when they're going to decrease. just a couple of months ago you had the biden administration declaring that the deterrence strategies that it had employed had worked and that border crossings were slowing to a trickle. here we are, and they have increased again. i could have told you that was going to happen because so far the biden administration has been relying on the same band-aid solutions that i can tell you have been used going back to the bush era, and they don't make a difference ultimately in the face of the

overwhelming humanitarian situations that lead people to come to the united states. i think the biden administration seems to be trying to tamp numbers down just enough that the pressure eases, that the criticism eases and they can focus the country's attention on other issues. that's a really big risk. especially given the track record that they have had so far, and the very high numbers that based on what we have seen don't show any sign of in a lasting way, going down. >> you understand why people want to come and there's real empathy from a lot of americans in trying to solve this problem but it does seem like a problem that's not getting better. it's getting worse, and in order to accept this many migrants, there's got to be a structure, an infrastructure in place to handle them, to get them working, to get them out of shelters and on their own. that infrastructure either doesn't exist or is stressed out and can't handle the capacity. caitlan dickerson, thank you so much for joining us, we really appreciate you coming on.

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security video from the train platform. >> reporter: what we know so far. she's 16 years old and in critical condition after an incident on the tehran metro. her story widely shared across social media. the question is, what happened to her? state-run media released ma it calls security video from the tehran subway station showing 1 minutes there. a girl with short black hair, head uncovered boarding a train at 7:08 in the morning. then being dragged out seconds later. apparently unconscious on to the platform. nbc news cannot verify that video's authenticity. the kurdish human right group ngo said she suffered a severe physical assault at hand of government agents and now in a coma. posting a photo it says is the

16-year-old in intensive care at an air force hospital in iran. the iranian government pushing back. head of the tehran metro told local media security footage suggested she actually fell after she may have fainted because of her blood pressure dropping, but known, no video released from inside that train. a video posted online by state-run media. it's impossible to know whether they were speaking freely or under duress and nbc news can't verify the video. the iranian government repeatedly tried to cast doubt on these accounts of alleged abuse by the morality police. today yet another development with activists claiming that her mother had been arrested. although state media denies that

citing security forces. the alleged attack is drawing international condemnation. the u.s. deputy special envoy for iran saying on x, formerly twitter, the u.s. is shocked and concerned by the reports. the german foreign minister also speaking out as well as british officials. the iranian foreign ministry accusing the u.s. and britain and germany of "insincere concern over these reports," but the case is fueling anger other treatment of girls in iran more than a death of the 22-year-old woman and that huge wave of protests that followed. >> thank you very much. that does it for me today. "deadline: white house" starts right now. hi to everyone. 4:00 in new york. it is