these people turning out and recognizing me. i didn't do any great thing except get old. >> a lot more than just get old, colonel herbert stern celebrating his 105th birthday this christmas eve. i'm jose diaz-balart. i'll see you tomorrow night on "nbc nightly news." thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. and right now on "andrea mitchell reports," game on. house members vying to replace kevin mccarthy will do a televised debate next week, defying advice from many republicans not to air the party's infighting in public. job boom. today's jobs report blowing past predictions. the president set to speak any moment. we'll carry it live. and border battle. the influx of migrants overwhelming border communities and northern cities alike. is that why the biden

administration has started building a 20-mile stretch of donald trump's wall? good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. congressman jim jordan, steve scalise, and kevin hern have all signed on for a televised debate monday night, as republicans struggle to find the next speaker of the house. fox news is set to host the debate before the gop's closed door forum on tuesday. it is a very unusual approach, especially following an unprecedented vote to remove kevin mccarthy and the decision to not air their dirty lenin in public. donald trump threw his weight behind jim jordan's pitch to become the speaker, calling him a star. but liz cheney, co-chair of the january 6th committee, at which jordan, of course, refused to appear, says, jordan is part of the conspiracy. >> jim jordan knew more about

what donald trump had planned for january 6th than any other member of the house of representatives. there was a handful of people of which he was the leader, who knew what donald trump had planned. now, somebody needs to ask jim jordan, why didn't you report to the capitol police what you knew donald trump had planned? you were in those meetings at the white house. >> jim jordan's most prominent rival, majority leader steve scalise, claims he is gaining wide support from the conference. >> the problems we have internally, they don't go away with a new speaker. the real question the members have is how do we get things back on track? and the reason i've been able to build such a strong base of support over these last few days that's been growing is i've got a long proven record as somebody who knows how to unify

>>o far neither is believed to votes needed to win the speakership. speaker pro tem patrick mchenry, a mccarthy ally, said today he is not seeking the post permanently. we start with nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake. garrett, a lot of moves going on, and unusually, this televised debate. who are they meeting today? >> reporter: i can't figure out what these candidates see in the utility in the televised debate. it's a lot of internal questions, how they're going to run the conference. it also has a lot to do with who's raising money for whom. and that's not settled in a fox news live debate. these candidates are having private meetings today remotely with members of the republican main street coalition, which is what it sounds like, one of the more moderate, economic-based caucuses within the republican conference.

they're meeting with the western caucus, again, just like it sounds like, members from the western half of the united states. and they're meeting with members of the freshman class. that's probably the meeting i would be most interested in being a fly on the wall today. it's a lot of those new members from bluish states like new york and california, who made the republican party the majority party this year. and they're the ones most committed to kevin mccarthy and the hardest for any of these men to win over. >> and nbc news, garrett, as you know has a video of congressman gaetz denouncing -- as a political stunt at a fund-raiser. jim jordan was really the brain -- i guess the mastermind behind all of that. is that directed at jim jordan? what's your take away? >> gaetz took great pains in this fund-raiser to not make this about jim jordan. some context, if you watched the debate on the house floor on tuesday, gaetz was critical of

the impeachment inquiry even then. he called it failure theater. we're learning now this is something he was saying back in late september at a private zoom only fund-raiser, being very critical of the effort, as it existed at the time, to investigate the biden family. here's what he told those donors behind the scenes. >> i don't believe that we are endeavoring upon a legitimate impeachment of joe biden. i mean, kevin mccarthy didn't even have the votes for an impeachment inquiry, and you're telling me he's somehow going to get the votes for an impeachment? i think kevin mccarthy just wants the specter of impeachment so that he's able to subjugate any threat to his power as an impeachment impediment. >> now, gaetz is a pretty unpopular figure up here on capitol hill right now, especially among republicans. that's not going to make him any more popular within his conference. he's also proven to be a pretty astute observer of political

theater. the idea an impeachment inquiry is not going to go anywhere and it may have been useful for kevin mccarthy in that moment is an analysis that if you gave a lot of these lawmakers truth sir m, they would probably agree with. >> saw steve bannon sitting there, so there's that presence as well. >> he's been a key figure behind the scenes on a lot of this over the last week or so too. >> you bet. garrett haake. well, i hope you get some rest this weekend because you've been going nonstop. >> i do too. thanks, andrea. here with us now is former pennsylvania congressman, charlie dent. so, what would you advice them about this televised speakership debate? >> i think this is a horrible mistake. it sets the terrible precedent -- these are failing discussions. and you just don't want to air this in public. so, i think this is -- i'm sure there are many house republican members right now who are simply livid over this decision. there is no good that will come

of it. if i were to ask them a question publicly, i'd say, okay, what deals are you going to cut on your brain in order to become the speaker? can you imagine the types of questions that can be asked of these guys publicly? and they're going to have to try to answer them. it's a terrible -- i can't express my outrage of this decision. it's so bad. >> you are presuming that they haven't preset questions. we don't know the terms of this debate. it is, you know, kind of home tv on fox. >> yeah. what kind of deals though? that's one thing that always bothered me about these speaker elections. when mccarthy was elected, he made deals with his detractors on the motion to vacate, on putting people on the rules committee, appropriations, a lot of side deals, nothing in writing. but these guys -- which were bad. but i'm afraid that these guys are going to have to make these side deals. are they going to want to announce them publicly?

they're going to be in awkward positions answering some of these questions. >> what are they going to do about the one congress member can start a motion to vacate? where do they stand on that? and what about the role of donald trump behind jim jordan? is he the king maker now? >> well, if jordan wins, well, then, yeah, i guess he would be the king maker. but don't underestimate steve scalise's popularity within the conference. he is from louisiana. there are a lot of members from the deep south who probably wouldn't mind having a member from the deep south becoming speaker. so, geographic politics could play a role here. steve has been a pretty effective fund-raiser. and i think that he might have a lot more friends than the former president realizes within the house conference. but i think scalise is going to be probably tormented by some of the same folks who tormented mccarthy at the end of the day. jordan shouldn't have as much of a problem there. >> and steve scalise, as you

know, is deeply conservative in his views ideologically, but he gets along with people. there's a lot of sympathy for him. he survived that baseball field, softball field, attack, as well as now undergoing treatment for multiple myeloma. >> he has a very compelling personal story. he is well regarded, especially since the shooting at the baseball practice. of course he is dealing with cancer. but steve, i found him to be very gregarious, very friendly. he's very different than jim jordan, who is much more of a very aggressive, charging in your face, and very inflexible. steve, i think, has the capacity to be very pragmatic. i've seen that in him. i've worked with him. even though he's very conservative, he was able to reach agreements. which for some of that house republican congress is the kiss of death. they think that's capitulation and surrender. but steve does have a sense of

governance. he's a pretty popular and likable guy. >> it's all whether they want -- whether the conference wants a bomb thrower or a con sill yea investor. that remains to be seen. charlie dent, thank you so much for starting us off. we really appreciate it. and hot jobs, employment numbers soaring higher than expectations in the news today. good news for the economy, but what does it mean in terms of what the fed will have to do? is it still going to have to do more to get inflation under control? we'll have the answers coming up when "andrea mitchell reports" returns in just 60 seconds. you're watching msnbc. nbc. d is crushed by a baby grand piano. you're replacing me? customize and save with liberty bibberty. he doesn't even have a mustache. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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the unemployment rate remained at 3.8%. joining us now is cnbc senior markets dom chu and -- dom, start us off and walk us through the key numbers. it's an amazing jobs report. >> they did. andrea, to that point, not many people at all expert-wise, economist-wise were forecasting for this level of jobs growth, especially with all the narratives around strikes and work stoppages around the country for the last several months. almost doubling, if you will, of the jobs created number over the consensus forecast does suggest that t u.s. economy, phaps maybe surprisingly, is still extremely resilient. perhaps the an consumer still extremely resilient and those who are working exstreamly resilient. that's all a really good thi there's a lot to unpack here. the big take away from this report is that the economy is

growing in some ways and still growing but a fast in others. this reinforces this idea that we could see either a soft landing or justaybe a mild recessn,f anything at all, in the coming months, which is a sharp contrast to where we were a year ago when the consensus was, like, 100% chance we were goin t have some kind of recession or economic downturn. there was robust job growth. wages, though, grew at a less than expected pace. that reinforces the idea that the economy can cool off and inflation can be moderated without some severe loss of jobs or a dropoff in wage growth. the percentage, though, of americans participating in the labor force does still remain steady. also a measure of those who are underemployed, discouraged workers, those workers working part timejobs, multiple part-time jobs because they n't get full-time ones, that fell slightly. where the jobreatn was. it was leisure and hospitality.

96,000 jobs there. vernment added 73. health care 41. professional services gained around that much aswell. you can, kinof, see 29,000. e prior two months you alluded to revised upward of combined 119,000, more than previously reported. what's curious about this is the initial market reaction was decidedly negative. interest rates skyrocketed and stocks fell relatively sharply because some believe the fed might have to raise rates faster. but the markets have turned around fairly dramatically. we are now at session highs and solidly in positive territory, andrea, as the day has progressed. we'll see if that sticks. >> so, maybe the soft landing group is winning out in the marketplace. thank you so much, dom. jason berman joining us now from harvard. your first reaction to the report? where are you landing?

>> my first reaction was to be really, really surprised. my second reaction was to be happy. and it takes a lot for me to let myself be happy with a report like this. there is t ghlish temptation toay good news is bad news, because it's going to put pressure on the fed, put pressure on interest rates. but in this case, i don't think that ghoulish reaction is the right one. i think in this one, the good news was good news. what we're seeing in this economy is labor supply is increasing. there's more people making themselves available for jobs. there's employers willing to hire them. and really important, i think it's sustainable because you saw wage growth slow down this month and slow down in a way that i think will be consistent with getting to 2% inflation. i don't think this puts a whole lot more pressure on the fed. i think this is a better than average month. you shouldn't get used to anything like this. but i think that everyone should have something to be happy about and celebrate these numbers today. >> yeah, i was looking at

the .2% wage growth that was really down from the previous month. so, it seems to me that that could the silver lining that people like you look at, people in the markets look at. >> yeah. and to be clear, you know, i'd like to see wages grow faster than inflation, and that's what we've seen over the course of this year. and that's a good thing. but, you know, when wages were growing at 5, 5.5% a year, that would have made it impossible to bring inflation down to 2. so, what you want to see is some slowdown in that so that you have a sustainable pace of real wage growth. and to get there without a high unemployment rate. and so far, we're seeing that. i'm always still nervous. you never ever know with the economy. things take their twists and turns. but today was a good twist. >> so, where does that put the fed? we're going into an election year. the last thing joe biden needs is more monthly -- every six weeks, rather, interest rate

hikes. but does this mean that they are not on a paused basis, that they're going to have to keep going? >> look, the market saw these data and thinks it's a little bit more likely that the fed is going to raise rates when they next meet at the beginning of november. i think they probably won't raise rates. and part of it is to understand what the fed changes is the fed funds rate. that isn't what actually matters for the economy. what actually matters for the economy are longer term interest rates, things like mortgage rates. and those long-term interest rates have risen a lot over the last month and a half. they're doing a lot of the fed's job for it. so, i think at this point, the bar is higher for the fed to raise rates again. now, to be clear, i don't think they're lowering them any time soon. so, i think we're in a higher, prolonged scenario, but probably not more rounds of hikes if things stay where they are now. >> don't go too far if you can.

we're waiting -- you just saw the roosevelt room at the white house. the president is supposed to speak around 11:30. we'll take a quick break and the remarks are on the podium, so we'll take a quick break and come right back to you after these messages. strain from immigration being felt along the southern border and also in cities far from it. that's next. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on nbc. stand by for the president when he comes out. stand by for the president when he comes out

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julia ainslie is back from chicago. you've been talking to migrants and officials. we had that unusual letter from a strong biden ally, j.d. pritzker, the governor. >> there's a lot of scrambling in chicago, a lot of really -- >> and i'm going to have to introduce the president. so, julia, stand by. >> that's fine. >> he is the president. >> the economy created 336,000 jobs in september alone. that means since i've taken office, we've created 13.9 million new jobs. you heard me say it before. i'm going to keep saying it. my dad had an expression. joey, the job is about a lot more than the paycheck. it's about dignity, respect. it's about looking your kid in the eye and saying, honey, it's going to be okay and mean it. 336,000 more americans can say that to their children and mean it. the unemployment rate has stayed

below 4% for 20 months in a row. we've achieved a 70-year low for unemployment rate for women, record lows for unemployment for african americans and hispanic workers, and people with disabilities. folks that have been left behind in previous recoveries and left behind too long. we have the highest share of working age americans in the workforce in 20 years. it's bidenomics. we're growing the economy from the middle out, the bottom-up, not the top-down. and inflation is coming down at the same time. it's down 60% since last summer. core inflation was just 2.2% over the past three months. now we have the lowest inflation of any major economy in the world. today, we're celebrating national manufacturing day. we didn't name it that. it was already national manufacturing day. but it seems appropriate. i can think of no better way to mark the occasion than to thank

the 13 million americans in manufacturing jobs, as we speak. they're restoring our pride, making things in america. and today i want to highlight that of those 13 million manufacturing jobs, 815,000 of those jobs were created since i took office, twice as many as the previous administration. and report we learned earlier this week that spending on construction for new factories being built to generate more economic growth and jobs hit an all-time high last month. folks, bidenomics is about investing in america and investing in american workers. and businesses are investing more in manufacturing than ever before, bringing the supply chains home. before the pandemic, supply chain is a phrase most people didn't even associate with, didn't think much about. but today, after a few delays in availability of parts and

products everyone has known about, they know why it's so important. my economic plan is bringing supply chains home and investing in industries of the future so we can make things in america again with american workers. we're creating good jobs in communities all across the country, including in places that had been left behind for the last, in some cases, 20 years because the factories they used to work at for years and years shut down, leaving them with no options, no jobs in that community. all over the midwest and all over the northeast. under bidenomics, you won't have to leave home now to get a good job. i don't know how many times i heard out on the road people saying, my kid came up to me, got a decent education, came up to me and said, mom, i've got to leave. no jobs. no jobs. well, you're going to be able to find a good job close to home more and more all across america. we're also making sure the jobs we're creating offer workers a

free and fair right, if they choose, to join a union, to form a union. bidenomics is leading this surge in unionized workers exercising their collective bargaining rights. for example, our clean school bus program under the bipartisan infrastructure law is replacing dirty diesel buses with clean electric buses, so children getting on and off those buses can bring clean air, not diesel fuel. we're encouraging companies building those buses to allow their employees to unionize if the employees choose. and it's working. we saw in georgia when workers at bloomberg, the electric school bus manufacturing company, voted to unionize, because that was their choice. treasury department laid out recently in a major report that unions and collective bargaining are good for the economy overall. they help raise wages not only for the workers in that factory,

but for everyone, whether or not you belong to a union. and they also increase corporate growth. and today's job report is just another example what it looks like when we focus on building an economy from the middle out, the bottom-up, not the top-down, while bringing deficits down at the same time. you know, just this summer, i signed a strong bipartisan law where i shook hands with the former speaker, and we passed in the house and the senate as well, to cut spending by $1 trillion over the next ten years. unfortunately, last weekend, republican house members decided they were going to put that progress in jeopardy. instead of honoring that commitment they made, they once again brought us to the brink of a government shutdown, creating unnecessary instability and risk in order to secure more extreme cuts in programs that help working americans and seniors.

cuts that would have hurt everyone -- hurt manufacturing, stymied the pay of military members, a whole range of things. they tried cutting -- 30% for small businesses, which are growing under our administration, helps small and medium manufacturers track and grow their businesses buchlt we stopped them. quite frankly, i'm sick and tired of republicans in the house saying they want to cut the deficit when all they want to do is once again cut taxes for the very wealthy and big corporations, which only add to the deficit. it will cut the federal debt by 1.7 trillion over the first two years. well remember what we were talking about. those 50 corporations that made $40 billion weren't paying a penny in taxes. guess what. we made them pay 30% -- 15% in taxes.

15%. nowhere near what they should pay. guess what. we're able to pay for everything and we end up with an actual surplus. you know, it's not about -- it's not what the economy needs right now, more tax cuts for the wealthy. i've said it before, and i'll say it again. we've cut the deficit by over 1 trillion since we've taken office. the laws i've signed will cut it by another 1 trillion over the next ten years, and my budget would cut by 2.5 trillion over the next ten years. here's the deal. the federal debt went up by 50% by my predecessor, tax cut to the wealthy corporations. i believe we should be reducing the deficit by making sure the wealthy and large corporations pay their fair share. i'm not asking them to pay 90%. just pay their fair share. by cutting interests on big oil, all the money they made and paid

little on taxes, big pharma, same thing. you know, where you just gave the american public a real gift in terms of -- not gift but fairness in terms of what they have to pay for insulin and what they're going to have to pay for other things. guess what? it also cut the federal debt. it cut the federal debt. for example, over 1,000 billionaires in this country. i know you're going to hear me say this until i'm able to change it. you know what their pay of tax rate is? 8%. 8%. i think you should be able to be a trillion nare, a billionaire, if you want, but pay your taxes. pay something approaching a fair tax. that's less than a teacher, firefighter, or cop pays in their taxes. it's just wrong. house republicans shouldn't put us back in crisis mode again. we have only 40 days for congress to get back to work

around the same house republican recess now, to fund the government, avoid a shutdown, and protect the tremendous gains american workers have made over the past two and a half years. shutdown would mean troops don't get paid, air traffic controllers won't get paid. there will be all kinds of problems at airports. loans in small business would be delayed. house republicans, it's time to start doing your job, continue the progress, grow the economy, invest in america, invest in the american people. so, let's get to work for the american people. they're waiting, and they're watching. we've got to get to work. thank you all very much. >> what are the prospects for a meeting between you and president xi of china in san francisco next month? >> there is no such meeting set up, but it is a possibility. >> mr. president, former president trump endorsed congressman jim jordan for house

speaker. could you see yourself working with congressman jordan if he is the next speaker? and do you have any concerns about who might fill that position? >> look, whomever the house speaker is i'm going to try to work with. they control half the congress. and i'm going to try to work with them. there are some people i would imagine is going to be easier to work with than others, but whoever the speaker is, i'll try to work with. >> mr. president, specific about what you did to try to reappropriate those border funds, especially when democrats controlled both chambers of congress? >> oh, the wall thing? is that what you're talking about? >> yes, sir. >> i was told that i had no choice. you know, congress passes legislation to build something, whether it's in an aircraft carrier, a wall, or provide for

a tax cut. i can't say i don't like it, i'm not going to do it if it hadn't been vetoed. it's the law. >> you tried to reappropriate the fund. >> we tried to ask the congress to consider changing the law to reappropriate. use it for other purposes. give me more border agents. give me more technical capabilities to detect fentanyl and the like. that's what i wanted to do. >> mr. president, you started your remarks here today by saying it was good news day with the economic report. why do you think most people still don't feel positive or feel good news about the economy? >> well, first of all, you just heard it. they haven't heard it. i think the 300,000-plus people feel better about the economy. look, i'm going to choose my words here. you all are not the happiest people in the world, what you

report. and i mean this sincerely. it gets -- you get more legs when you're reporting something that's negative. i don't mean you're picking on me. i'm just the nature of things. you turn on the television and there's not a whole lot about boy saves dog as he swims in the lake, you know? it's about, you know, somebody pushed the dog in the lake. i mean, i get it. but if you just listen to what's going on around the world, there's reason for people to be concerned. there's reason for people to be concerned what's going on in russia. there's reason to be concerned about what's going on in other parts of the world. i think that the american people are smart knowing what their interests are.

i think they know they're better off financially than they were before. it's a fact. and all that data -- all that polling stuff shows they think more positive about the economy than they've been, more positive about their jobs, et cetera. i just think -- let me put it this way, if you just watch what happened last week in the congress, how excited are you going to be about -- anyway -- >> well, that was a wide-ranging question and answer session first of all. let's start at the top. the president said there's nothing set yet for a meeting in san francisco with president xi of china. my reporting is that they want it to happen and that it very well might happen after another summit, that he might well be attending, the president of china has not yet confirmed that he's coming. it's trending towards him

coming. let's go back to cnbc's senior markets correspondent dom choou, jason berman -- also homeland security correspondent julia ainslie joining us, and morgan chesky in hidalgo, texas. we did hear the president not only being asked about the economy, but being asked about the border wall. saying it was appropriated by congress, he could not use it for more border agents. congress refused to let him use it for anything but the wall. that does fly in the face of what certainly the homeland security secretary said yesterday, morgan chesky, just yesterday in the filing or the night before last, which is this is a response to uptick in flow

of migration and otherwise. morgan? >> yeah, andrea, you're exactly right. we're here in starr county. that is where that proposed 20-mile section of a border barrier or border wall would be built, with the funds that were appropriated back in 2019 under a republican congress with president trump then in office. and we are expecting to speak to the county judge here, where we anticipate hearing essentially that this may help. but there is no firm timeline, andrea, on when this section of wall would actually go into place. and we've already heard from local critics here in the rio grande valley of texas who say that this is not a long-term solution, echoing some of what the president said in that there needs to be more boots on the ground, more higher tech solutions, and not merely an extension of a wall that will only be a stopgap measure here. the numbers speak for themselves, andrea. we know that in this section alone, the rio grande sector,

customs and border protection reported about a quarter million migrants trying to cross illegally over the last year. and for the people in this community, they are very much calling this a migrant crisis. and that is why when the president did say they're going to build 20 more miles of wall, going against what he said as a candidate when he said they're not going to build an extra foot of wall, there is a little bit of curiosity here on this sharp reversal from the biden administration. and people are curious to see how this plays out. andrea? >> and julia, you were just in chicago, where they're in illinois, a blue state. the governor has been upset because of the migrants going there, new york and other places in the north. >> that's right, andrea. we know that -- i just returned from chicago where there are a lot of city officials, who are scrambling to find places to house migrants as well as feed them. in fact, i was just in a food bank yesterday, where they're really feeling the ramifications

of the border, right, where morgan is now. here's what i learned from the food bank. >> reporter: are you worried about being able to provide enough for this growing population? >> yeah. we don't know how long this is going to go on for. so, that in itself is worrisome. but yeah, make sure we are able to source enough food to continue being able to provide, yeah. that's on my mind all the time. >> so, andrea, if you're taking, you know, what the president has just said about the border, trying to say that this is something that was planned all along, it's hard to take it out of the context when you have cities like chicago/new york complaining about the influx. you're seeing record high number of migrants crossing the border, and the secretary of homeland security said it yesterday in the federal register that because of the acute need for a border wall. which is really a reversal. even though the biden administration is saying, it's not a reversal, their hands were tied. >> julia, of course another huge issue is the economy.

jason furman, we had this really blowout of a jobs report. the president was there to point that out. he was asked why he's not getting credit for it because the polls show that a very low number are giving him credit for having a good economy, 39%. and he said, i'm going to choose my words carefully. it's because you're not all happy people. so, he's trying to gently say, we're not reporting it enough. jason? >> yeah. i don't know what explains those numbers. but it is notable. if you look at consumer sentiment that has risen a lot in the last six months. and it's over that period of time that you've seen lower inflation and larger real wage gains. that hasn't been showing up in the president's approval rates on the economy, but i wouldn't be surprised if people, as they're getting more optimistic about sentiment, and as they continue to be optimistic with their wallets when they go into

stores, that maybe some of that starts to show up in how they judge the president on these issues as well. >> and dom chu, thanks for standing by. if you could bring us home on this. on the economy, half full, half empty. what about the politics on it? take it anyway you want. >> there is this notion right here, just from having reported on it over the course of the past year, i would talk in cocktail conversations with folks about how americans care a lot, i've learned, about egg prices and they care about gasoline prices. there's also a primacy recency effect. people tend to remember the things that just happened to them right now and they tend to remember things that got them going in the wrong direction in the first place. fuel prices are going to be front and center right now. i mention because we have seen a sharp tick higher in fuel prices over the last several weeks. just in the last few days or so, the last week or so, we've seen

a very sharp dropoff in the price of crude oil, which could at some point translate into gasoline prices. so, when the markets are pricing some of these things out, it really comes down to whether or not consumers feel the impact of it. they tend to focus on things like gasoline prices because maybe, to the president's point, when you drive down the road, walk down the street, you see a gas station, you see the bright sign out there showing you exactly how much regular unleaded costs. when you start to see it go higher markedly, it does weigh on sentiment. the true test will be, andrea, whether or not in the coming two to three months, in the all-important retail holiday shopping season, the american consumer still goes out there, andrea, and spends money. that's the big key. >> dom chu, jason furman, julia ainslie, our thanks to morgan chesky, all the expertise today. thank you all so very much. coming up, the house of cards with republicans vying for the speakers gavel. the view from the other side of

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donald trump reportedly shared sensitive information about america's nuclear submarines after he left the white house with an australian billionaire who joined mar-a-lago as a club member in 2017 and allegedly cozied up to trump. in sharing the number of war heads and how they can get to russian subs without being detected, once the president had left the white house. this was first reported by abc news and then "the new york times." joining me now is mikie sherrill of new jersey. first of all, you come out of a military background. how concerned are you by these reports -- i believe that it's currently reported by nbc, but

abc and "the new york times" -- that the former president allegedly discussed sensitive submarine secrets with an australian billionaire who is just a club member down at mar-a-lago. >> and i think i read the reporting suggests that then that billionaire shared it with over 40 other people. as a former naval officer and russian policy officer, these are some of our host tightly held secrets when it comes to our submarine force. so, to think that the former president was sharing those secrets and that is being promulgated is incredibly concerning. and i think just shows if we needed any more information about it, it just shows that he's completely unfit to ever hold the office of president again. >> let's talk about the race for speaker as well. there's so much going on at the hill. democratic leader hakeem jeffries is now calling for a bipartisan coalition, writing in

"the washington post," we simply need rublican partners willing to break with maga extremism, reform highly partisan house rules that were adopted at the beginning of this congress and join us in finding common ground for the people. is there anyone currently running for speaker who would fill that bill and that democrats could support? >> you know, andrea, it's unclear. that offer has, i think, been on the table since janry really, this idea that if kevin mccarthy had ever wanted to turn away from the far right extremists in his party and focus on governing and figuring out a better path forward for congress and the country other than implementing things like travel bans and cutting into historic deep cuts for poor children, s.n.a.p. funding and whip funding. a whole host of things that he was really being led to by maga extremists, as well as

supporting trump and his ideas, supporting the big lie that the elections were stolen, allowing the far right extremists to move forward on an impeachment inquiry, even though they had not presented evidence that there was wrong doing by the president. all these things are so bad for our institutions, our democratic institutions. we even heard from the former standard bearer of the republican party, mitt romney, that he thinks a large portion of his party does not believe in the constitution. we need leadership on the republican side of the aisle that is going to put the country and our values before the far right extremists. >> how concerned are you about republican opposition to ukraine war funding? >> as far as the ukrainian war funding, i'm really, incredibly concerned. this is something that, as you know, republicans in the senate, democrats in the senate, democrats in the house.

and the majority -- this sometimes gets lost. the majority of republicans in the house seem to be behind this house that we really need to continue to support the democratic work that the ukrainians are doing to fight for their democracy against russia and putin, who has long been an adversary of united states and has a world view contrary to ours. so, this is incredible important, and i'm very concerned about the path forward. we know how important it is. we know that the ukrainian military is doing well and making progress. but that will end if we cannot continue our support. >> and turning to new jersey and to senator menendez. there is a new report, "the new york times" is reporting that the new jersey state attorney general is opening an inquiry into whether the bergen county officials properly investigated a fatal crash involving the then girlfriend, now wife, of dean

menendez, after she struck and killed a pedestrian in her car in 2018. where do you stand on that? >> so, you know, as i have said, andrea, i think it's time for senator menendez to resign. i'm concerned about his access to information, as someone on the foreign affairs committee and as a member of the senate. we know that he -- you know, he's accused of sharing sensitive information with the egyptian government. i do think there is very concerning things in the indictment, although, of course, as a former federal prosecutor, i believe he has the right to stand before a jury of his peers. that does not -- there's no entitlement to sit as senator in the united states senate. i do think it's time that he resign from that position. >> congressman mikie sherrill, thanks very much for being with us today. and the nobel peace prize

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florida governor and republican presidential candidate ron desantis weighed in yesterday on the biden administration's decision to allow border wall construction

in texas. during a radio interview in iowa. >>well, isn't that interesting? you remember i started the transportation program when florida transported 50 illegal aliens to martha's vineyard in 2022, and you see what the border towns areoing through. this is just 50 in a very wealthy area that had advertised itself as being a sanctuary jurisdiction, and yet, what did they do? they freaked out, and they sent them off the island the next day. >> so a little fact checking. they were not illegal migrants. they were legal. governors desantis's controversial decision last year to send 49 venezuelan migrants to massachusetts created a firestorm. they received false promises of jobs and housing. it's the new topic of a documentary which premiers sunday at 10:00 p.m.

>> all of the refugees, they were asking like when do they start work? where am i working tomorrow? they firmly believed they were coming here for housing and a job. you know, they entered the country legally and it was so hard to look them in the eye and say to them not tomorrow. not tomorrow. >> they realized that they had been transported thousands of miles away from the immigration venues where they were supposed to show up, and on the ground in san antonio, they were all granted authorization to come into the country, had scheduled them for hearings and proceedings. they were afraid that they were going to get deported. >> joining me now is texas county sheriff javier salazar, and evan, espinosa, the executive director for lawyers civil rights. both are featured in this

documentary. evan, we just saw you in the clip, what did the migrants tell you they had been promised? >> they had been promised jobs. they had been promised housing. they had been promised assistance with being settled in the united states, integraing into the community, even english language classes, all false promises that were never intended to be fulfilled by the governor of florida. that's why lawyers for civil rights took immediate action. >> sheriff salazar, you filed criminal charges over governor desantis's operation to fly the migrants to martha's vineyard. you heard them on the radio just yesterday praising what he had done. you joined with california's governor and the attorney general writing a letter to the attorney general, to merrick garland. bring us up to date on what's happened with that lawsuit. >> well, today those criminal cases against two individuals that were actually boots on the ground here in bexar county, the

cases of those individuals were forwarded to the district attorney's office here just a few months ago. recently i was told by the d.a. that the preliminary work has been completed on those cases and they're now being prepared for possible presentations to the grand jury. >> evan, i want to play another clip from the documentary and get your thoughts also on the other side. >> i saw them walking across from the high school to the bus stop. i was confused. i was confused because i was like how did you get here and who sent you here? so we had mom and dad and kids. they kept saying, we're hungry. haven't eat since breakfast. this was 4:00 in the afternoon. they cried. they're scared that we're going to separate them like is done

before, you know. we see it on the news, and i got one of the moms and i said, listen, i promise you we're not going to take your kids away. >> evan, you're shared in the immigrant experience yourself. how frightening was it for these people? >> extraordinarily frightening. it is an incredibly arduous journey just to get to the southern border of the united states and all of the martha's vineyard clients surrendered to immigration officials requesting asylum. they are asylum seekers. they received federal authorization to come into the united states through parole, which is an immigration program. they're all known to immigration officials, and then to have a government actor perpetrate this was terrifying for our clients who were fleeing venezuela due to a dictatorship. they're used to the government

taking bad actions against you. so you can imagine how triggering and retraumatizing it was to have them transported across state lines under false pretenses, under false promises, and that's why the lawyers for civil rights were joining forces with community groups on martha's vineyard to protect them and make sure that they can assert their rights and to restore their dignity. >> and sheriff, just briefly, what was your reaction when you first heard that migrants from texas had been flown to florida and then to massachusetts. >> well, the first thing i wanted to determine was was this done via consent, effective consent, or was it done through means of deception, and unfortunately the rumors that we had been hearing about deception being used just seemed to get proven more and more as we went into the investigation. now to me, there's no doubt in my mind that these people were deceived into being moved. to me, still, that constitutes a

crime in the state of texas. >> well, javier salazar, sheriff salazar and evan espinosa madrigal. thanks so much to you. you can watch "martha's vineyard versus desantis" at 10:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc and streaming on peacock. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports," after a really busy week, have a good weekend. follow this show on social media @mitchellreports. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. ♪♪ hi, everybody, good to see you. i'm yasmin vossoughian in for chris jansing. if you thought this week was crazy on capitol hill, we are just getting started. with at least three and maybe as many as six republicans vying for the speakership, the party's going to have its hands full when it needs to pick a new leader. around the