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you. we are continuing our coverage of the violence and chaos within israel. moments ago, we heard president biden address the situation in israel. and, we will have more on his remarks, when i talk to msnbc host jen psaki shortly. but first, we want to reset where we are. at this hour, at least 70 are dead, several hundred more injured, after a massive attack by hamas, by air, land, and see. thousands of rockets, and hundreds of militants, pouring into the country. and, the biggest escalation the region has seen in years. in response, israel has fired rockets into gaza, the health ministry says around 200 people there have been killed. i want to go ahead and go to raf sanchez, who is on the ground. all right, we do not have raf, we will have gavin in a moment. of course, he and his crew, things are very fluid on the ground, as they have been giving us information, really
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throughout the entire day, with much of this beginning in the morning, and american smith waking up to a drastically different world now. the president, speaking last hour, saying that the u.s. has israel's back, saying that there were just incredibly appalling images, raining down on israeli cities in, and confirming that entire families have been taking hostage, by hamas. i believe we now have former white house spokesperson jen psaki, and host of msnbc's inside with jen psaki. i'm going to play a little bit of the presidents remarks, and then we will talk on the other side, jen. >> in this moment of tragedy, i want to say to them, and to the world, and to terrorists everywhere, that the united states stands with israel. we will not ever fail to have their back. we will make sure that they have the help that their citizens need, and they can continue to defend themselves. >> jen, before we go into really the scope of the attack, and your reaction to that, what
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is your reaction to the presidents remarks the last hour? >> well lindsey, you're sitting in the white house, in a moment like this. and unfortunately, president biden has also, even though there are differences, this is much more significant and escalatory than 2021. but, he has been through these conflicts before, because there has been a number. but, when you're sitting in the white house, a moment like this. they put out their written statement, but is so important for people not just in the united states, but around the world, and in israel, to see him on camera. he had similar sentiments that he stated, in those remarks, that were already in the written remarks. but that video is so important, and standing with secretary blinken as well, to show we are on it, we have your back, we support the actions of prime minister netanyahu and the israelis at this moment, in response to the attacks from hamas. and that is i think why they did that video, i would be surprised if they continue to do updates like that, in the coming days. >> and so, the president roth walked, away and didn't answer any questions from reporters. but one question that we did hear was about intelligence, or
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at least the lack of intelligence that this attack was going to happen, on really such a crucial day, 50 years and one day after the yom kippur war. many for analysts all day, saying this is a failure of israeli intelligence, to be able to see this coming. but, is it also a failure of u.s. intelligence, to warn such a key ally? >> well lindsey, given that this is an active conflict, i expect, and from having been in there during these moments before, that they will certainly do an assessment of that. they just are not going to do, today, because right now, they are focused on obviously supporting the israelis, engaging with counterparts around the world, including within israel. but i am certain, there will be an assessment of what happened with u.s. intelligence here. now, as you just stated lindsey, the israelis didn't know this was coming either. no one seems to know this is coming. and so, there were significant questions that will be explored over the coming weeks, not just about u.s. intelligence, israeli intelligence, but about the capacity of hamas. i mean, this is capacity that is beyond what we have seen them do, when they have
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attacked israel, or gone in in the past. and, that raises questions about whether they had, help and we don't know the answers to that at this point in time. >> i want to ask about some of the reporters that are julie tsirkin just broke just an hour ago. the u.s. officials were discussing-enhancing intelligence sharing with israelis, back could mean anything from information gathered via drones, eavesdropping, and satellites. but, what is your reaction to, that what does that mean? >> that mean not particularly surprised by that. the united states does share intelligence with israel. it is not the same partnership or relationship the united states have a country like the united kingdom. the united states does have a very important and a close security latent with israel. especially where they fall and where they are in that region in the world. i would say that there is a couple of areas where the united states in the biden administration can decide to provide more support. this is important intelligence sharing. another one would be additional military enforcement.
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a huge supplier of military system to israel. some may need congressional support, some may. not really depends on what it is. that is something that you could also see as israel uses the military equipment and military resources they have, do they need we punishment. is that another area where we will all be watching to see what they do. not particularly surprised by that. that is an area where, obviously, the united states can supplied some support. >> how does the complicated relationship between netanyahu and biden play into this, as well? we know that, while this is an ally of ours in the middle east, there has been some domestic turmoil that president biden has not been in favor of. for example, usual overall. how does that factor in? >> i would say the tensions have had ups and downs, and then, the four years. remember when the president was the vice president. he planned a trip to israel, prime minister netanyahu at the time and now it's a snow building in the west bank at the time. there have been ups and downs
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within that relationship. a great deal of tension over the course of time. at the same time, prime minister netanyahu someone that president biden has known for, literally, decades. if you go back to 2021, that relationship in the ability to have those open conversations definitely played a role in resolving that conflict. my point is that despite the tensions that decades-long relationship could be a helpful factor here. we will see >> jen psaki. thank you so much for joining us on such a crucial day with all of your expertise and insight catch inside with jen psaki every afternoon -- and monday nights at eight eastern, we'll be watching certainly. we will go to raf sanchez on the ground in sderot, israel. just north of the gaza strip. raf, what is the latest? >> lindsey, we have been saying flares going out behind us. you may be able to see them behind me just a few minutes ago we could see israel's iron
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dome missile defense system once again at work. a sign that this barrage of more than 3000 rockets continues from gaza. lindsey, this is very much a live unfolding and chaotic situation. for israelis, it is a 14-hour nightmare that they seem unable to wake up from this is both a large-scale surprise attack with a norm of casualties. the official figures from the emergency israeli services right now are that 70 israelis are confirmed dead. i can tell you, people here suspect that the final toll will be much much higher than that. lindsey it is also a hostage crisis on a scale that israel has, perhaps, never faced before. on to be really specific about what i'm talking about here i just spoke. two in israeli security official. he says that on the israeli side of the border there are two active hostage situation still underway.
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these are places where palestinian gunmen who crossed over this morning are holed up with israelis held hostage at gunpoint. they are at this point surrounded by israeli special forces and it's real is hoping to free those people. the other larger more complicated side of this house judge crisis is the military says they are both israeli soldiers and israeli civilians who have been taken care active, taken into gaza by hamas and by palestinian islamic jihad. it is that fact that there are israeli citizens on the wrong side of the border, in palestinian captivity right now, which will weigh so heavily on decision-making by prime minister benjamin netanyahu, and others. the israeli military saying that nothing is off the table, including the possibility of a full scale ground invasion of gaza to free those hostages to bring them out.
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lindsey, gaza, as you know, is one of the most densely populated places on earth. home to 2 million civilians, as well as these palestinian militant groups. there is potential for enormous loss of life if these raley military goes in on the ground. i can tell you there has already been significant loss of life inside gaza. all day, we have seen israeli fighter aircraft overhead, striking targets, inside of gaza. the palestinian health ministry says that more than 200 people have been killed in the last few hours. that is a tool that could pale in comparison to what we may see in the coming days. lindsey? >> raf, what can you tell us about the israeli defense forces and their release talking about fighter jet striking hamas infrastructure in gaza? >> lindsey, i can tell you that they are considered the foremost military in the middle east. behind them is considered a world leading intelligence
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apparatus. both the israeli military and the israeli intelligence services were caught badly, badly, off guard by what happened today. caught off guard in a way that they have not been since, as you mentioned, october 1973 when that joint egyptian syrian invasion threatened to wipe the country off the map. no one is saying that these hundreds of palestinian gunmen are going to fail to destroy the state of israel. but they have certainly shattered israel sense of security. it's real sense that the problems in gaza can be kept on the other side of the border. they have physically shattered the barrier fence that separates israel from gaza. the overwhelming barrage of rockets, homes, factories, hospitals, all across southern israel, the israeli military's priority at this moment is the hostage crisis. it is retaking control of israeli cities, like sderot, just a couple miles down the
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road. they are turning to what they feel needs to happen inside gaza to free those hostages into extract, in prime minister benjamin netanyahu's words, an enormous price on the palestinian militants who launched this attack. lindsey? >> we've talked to former -- martin fletcher in the last hour. talking about the possibility of the iron dome needing more rocket. we know that israel has not reached out yet to the u.s. for more military aid for any changes to the current aide. are you hearing anything about what the u.s. could be providing or what israel might be needing? >> periodically after these rounds of fighting between israel and hamas that the world have gotten used to or the ten years, israel reaches out to the united states congress and says,. we have fired hundreds of millions of dollars worth of iron dome missile interceptors. we would ask the united states to replenish the supplies. we do not know how many of
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these missiles israel has fired today. given that there were 3000 rockets, at least, fired over the course of the day, you can assume that is a great, great, number. over the course of the morning in the afternoon we saw trucks driving through here. lindsey, there is what looks like an israeli helicopter coming into land in this field next to us. this is a improvised field hospital where some of the most seriously wounded people have been taken in by choppers. flown north to hospitals in tel aviv and other israeli cities. it is dark, it is difficult to see. this doesn't look like a military hop to, it does appear to be a military -- over the course of the day we have seen trucks carrying batteries of these iron dome missile interceptors. a sign that they have been rushing them, trying to get them to the right place where they are needed the most. we do not yet know if the
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israeli government has plans to ask the united states to replenish its supplies. it is certainly something we might see. given that there is a general expectation that this is just day one of what could be a long, long, round of fighting, you may very well see israel asking for material help. lindsey? >> thank you so much for that update. and thank you, as well, to the person in the camera for bringing that us -- we appreciate it. coming up in 60 seconds, a look at the highly targeted tax on israel by hamas. how palestinian were successfully able to break down israeli defenses in a surprise assault. that's next. that's next. and get rewarded. get 50% off any footlong when you join subway mvp rewards. so many all star options. it's just for subway mvps right? you catch on quick herbert. join now and get 50% off any footlong. do you struggle with occasional nerve aches you catch on quick herbert. in your hands or feet? try nervive nerve relief from the world's number one nerve care company. nervive contains ala to relieve nerve aches,
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and b-complex vitamins to fortify healthy nerves. try nervive. welcome back, everyone. and, try nervive pain relieving roll-on. moments ago we heard president biden speak live in reaction to what we are seeing at a video today. here is more of what the president had to say. >> israel has the right to defend itself and its people, full stop. there is never a justification
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for terrorist attacks. my administration support for israel security is rock-solid and unwavering. let me say this is clearly as i can. this is not a moment for any party hostile to israel to exploit these attacks to seek advantage. the world is watching. >> joining me once again is peter baker a new york times white house correspondent also nemeth embassy political analysts. jack jacobson analyst -- we just heard from the president. we chat with you a little bit. what do you say are some of the top lines from what he said? >> i think he wanted to make clear that there is no daylight between the united states and israel at the time. whatever differences we may remember hearing between he and president netanyahu over the past months do not appliances point. the united states will have videos back. the other thing you heard, of, course is a warning. warning to unnamed countries. probably, meaning iran, not to
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escalate. not to take him into this moment. there is concern about the northern border. hezbollah or those base in southern lebanon might try to fashion its own attacks or something like that. that is another important point. when you didn't hear from him in answer to the question that was shouted at he tried to leave the room as whether not there was intelligence failure. he did not respond. republicans who were blaming him for making a hostage deal with iran recently that they argued emboldened iran, perhaps, into helping hamas. there is no tangible evidence of that at this point. that is a conclusion you are hearing already on the campaign trail from republicans. >> israel has promised a robust response. the president confirming last hour that civilian families have been taken hostage in gaza. how big of an escalation could be c here? >> i think it is going to be really difficult for netanyahu not to go into gaza with some force in order to get the
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hostages back. he is not gonna be able to avoid that. it is politically impossible for him to do that. we can expect to see an incursion into gaza. israel has no intention of saying they're either. there was withdrawal, and as we know, sometime ago there was a lot of criticism because they did withdraw. you can't go into gaza and stay there. as you know it is the most huntley populated place on the face of the earth. it's impossible to be there without committing laundry sources in israel. they do not want to do, that they can't do that. on the short term, there is going to be a big escalation. >> colonel jacobs, these attacks from hamas, highly targeted, successful, from their point of view. successful in penetrating israeli defenses. how are they able to do this. >> two ways. the first is a physically destroyed the barriers with
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bulldozers. came right through. evidently, someone was asleep at the switch. in addition to that, israel's military intelligence capability is very formidable. apparently it was also asleep at the switch. the kind of activities that would have had to proceed hamas making these attacks would not have gone unnoticed. there are a couple of things, one thing in particular that's important, israel has been highly focused on domestic political problems. not really paying attention. any investigation is probably going to uncover that is the case. if israel is not paying attention 100 sign of the time, if it's focused on internal political disarray, which have been for some time, it makes this kind of attack much easier to pull off, lindsey.
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>> can you weigh in on that? how much domestic turmoil incentive is your could've contributed to this, as well? >> this question, i think, is certainly gonna be asked in the days and weeks to come. in reaction to prime minister netanyahu's plans to curb the power in the judiciary, you had thousands of reservists pledging to stop serving the military. they don't want to defend a government that, they argue, is undermining democracy. there has been, not turmoil, in the civilian domestic sphere but that has also impacted the military sphere in israel. whether that has to do with them falling sleep at the switch, as we just talked about, we don't know, obviously. that is a question you are going to hear asked. know, obviously thi think it does serve as a reminder to other countries who are having domestic problems, say, for instance, don't have a working house of representatives at the moment, there are threats in the outside world who don't wait for you to get your internal
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disagreements resolved. that is always a risk when you are divided amongst yourselves. you are facing threats on the outside. >> peter baker, colonel jack jacobs, thank you both. our coverage of the hamas attack on israel continues ahead. up next, congressman an iron service committee member, jeff bolton, joins with his reaction and how the u.s. should respond. they switched to google tools for education because there's never been a reported ransomware attack on a chromebook. now they're focused on learning knowing that their data is secure. ( ♪♪ )
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netanyahu just spoke. saying hamas has killed women, children, and the elderly in their assault on the country. the airstrikes have continued into the night. the armed ring of hamas saying they fired another airstrike with nifty missiles, towards tel aviv. as israel fires its own strikes into the gaza strip. joining me on the phone, nbc's chief foreign correspondent, richard engel. richard, we are hearing over and over again how unprecedented this is. can you talk about how different this is from other brands we have seen in recent months? >> very much so. i think it is different than anything we have seen before. it is unprecedented. it is different from the kind of violence that we have seen between israelis and palestinians over the last several decades. it is important that people understand a little bit of the geography. gaza, the west bank, hamas, people don't necessarily understand where things are. it is battles like this, pursuant attacks like the one
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we saw hamas launch earlier this morning, it is important to stand a little bit of the geography. you have israel, the country of israel. the jewish state. 10 million people. that blends into the west bank. the palestinians who live in the west bank, it is separated from israel proper by a border wall. there are many settlements in the west bank there many roads many military positions. the israelis move quite openly and freely in and around areas of the west bank. the gaza strip is different. separated from the west bank. separate from israel. it is fenced off. it is a closed military area. the palestinian, just over 2 million who live there. basically they have no ability to leave. we need extra honor permission, which is very hard to get. neither from the egyptians who control the southern border or the israelis themselves.
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we got a strip is around a hamas. the west bank is run by palestinian authority, it is a different government. the two did not get along. what we are talking about right now is hamas, hard-line militant groups, controlling with an iron fist the gaza strip. the militant wing of hamas, launching this hack at around 6:30 this morning, in a coordinated fashion. the gaza strip is also along the mediterranean coast. if you follow the coast up along gaza, you will continue into israel. in order to get past that israeli checkpoint in the naval blockade, you must do what hamas did. think of it as a mass escape. a rampage, blowing up border crossing, they attacked a border crossing, blue portions of the fence. they killed israeli guards. they blew holes in some of the
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defenses that surround the gaza strip. they used some sort of boats to go into the -- go around the israeli maritime position inland on the israeli coast. and then the use paragliders. by the way, there are pictures. hamas has released, showing all of this. they have used these paragliders, the kind you would out on vacation, people enjoying themselves. imagine sitting on a chair with a large fan behind you. a big parachute like thing on top. to fly over the israeli positions. this was an immensely sophisticated, creative, deadly attack. according to the israelis, about 150 israelis have been killed. that is just the number so far. it seems that dozens of people
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have been taken hostage. it's not just breaking out of the gaza strip, you take dozens of people, elderly women, soldiers, brought them back into the gaza strip. now, israel isn't a very difficult position. do they chase them down? of course they are just gonna let this happen. but how? do you send their troops into the gaza strip? the densely populated, hamas dug in there. they know the area very well. they have tunnels, have booby traps. how do you attack positions in this urban area when you know there are also hostages, slash, human shields in the area? this attack is very different than the one we've seen between israelis and palestinians in the past. a few years ago hamas just fired rockets. that is another way to get
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violence from the gaza strip. the rocket, either a homemade rocket, you smuggle it in. and you fire from the gaza strip. usually the israeli fire back. the launch sites and where they attack the people who are launching them. with the iron dome system that eagerly's have, very sophisticated. very accurate. those rocket attacks have very little use. what we saw this morning was a massive barrage of around 3000 rockets, which is a huge number, in order to confuse the israelis, overwhelm them, caused damage cars under put their heads down so that hamas could launch the deadly, unprecedented, incursions on multiple fronts. si chief foreign correspondent, richard engel, we so appreciate you breaking down what led to this. and what, exactly, happened like only you can.
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nbc investigative reporter, dan duluth, has new reporting on the intelligence failures surrounding this. dan? >> obviously this has, by all accounts, been an intelligence failure for israel that is really unprecedented for a country that has long been considered to have an incredibly capable and effective intelligence service. not to have any advanced knowledge that there would be this massive incursion that richard was just describing. by air, by land, by sea. really caught so many israelis by surprise. they have taken hostages. one thing that we have been told is that u.s. intelligence services does not anticipate this. the israeli, certainly, i didn't tell them that they thought it was coming. the u.s. is offering more intelligence sharing -- to the hamas attack.
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of course the u.s. and israel have really close cooperation when it comes to cooperation. they are offering the possibility of offering more information from drones, satellites, and he's dropping. other technical droppings. the going into the details something we have learned today, >> dandelions, thank you so much. bringing us that breaking news. joining us right now massachusetts representative and member of the house armed services committee, congressman, thank you for being with us on such a consequential day for the entire globe. what is your reaction to the new reporting we just brought everybody about the intelligence failure surrounding this? >> look, it is obviously a massive intelligence failure. it is a question that we have to ask. the big question right now is, how does israel respond? this is a terrorist attack on a truly unprecedented scale. as richard broke down, we have just not seen this kind of break out from the gaza strip
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before. it brings me back to a couple years ago, i was sitting in and israeli families backyard in southern israel, not too far from gaza. the family was describing how hamas would send booby trapped balloons over the fence, over the wall, into israeli communities like this. so that little kids would pick them up and be killed. uas a father sitting in their families backyard thinking about my own two little girls i just couldn't imagine living under that constant threat. of course, now, some of those kids have been murdered, kidnapped. i mean, this is just absolutely horrific on a scale that we have not really seen before. let's be clear, this is going to get worse before it gets better. >> congressman, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says the country will exact a huge price from hamas for the attack. we have the potential retaliation, and then we have the response. trying to get these hostages back. what are you going to be watching for into the hours and
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the days ahead? what do you take the presidents statements that israel has the support of the u.s., what do you take that to mean? >> first of all let me reaffirm israel's right to defend itself, to defend its territory, to defend people. terrorism is never, ever, justified under any circumstances. just like the united states has responded to terrorist attacks, i expect israel will respond. i expect us to fully support them in that response. that is exactly what you've heard already from the biden administration this morning. also speaking as a marine veteran of iraq, i did four tours fighting in a counter urgency battle, i recognize that this is a tricky military response. the age old challenge in a counterinsurgency is how do you neutralize the immediate threat while not escalating to the point that you actually recruit more terrorist to the cause, right? it is not as simple as a force
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on force warlike ukraine and russia. you just have to push the russians back. israel will have to figure out how to prosecute this threat, how to eliminate any threats they can from hamas while also having in mind the long term goal, which is peace. that is the elusive goal that everyone still has in mind here. israel has to calibrate its response to achieve both of those aims. >> congressman, the u.s. currently has no ambassador to israel. president biden nominated former white house pre chief of staff, jack. lou jacket not been confirmed by the senate. how critical is that given these recent events? >> of course it is critical. it is just crazy that our closest ally in the middle east is undergoing this horrific attack. we don't have an ambassador in place. of course, this is just part of the dysfunction. we don't even have a speaker of the house right now. we are essentially paralyzed in the house of representatives. if we have to come together to
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deliver emergency aid israel, we don't even have a speaker in place to do that right now. the dysfunction within the united states government right now, the civil war that is going on with the house gop, this is a real problem for our own national security. let's not leave out the fact that we have a crazy senator from alabama, tommy tuberville, who was holding up the nomination of hundreds of senior military officers. in fact, decimating a generation of those office are trying to move to their new post with their families. their kids can even start school. i have heard already that many of them are saying, i'm getting out. i don't like the way the republicans are politicizing the military. there are real consequences to the republican dysfunction that you see in washington today. one of those consequences right now is we don't even have an ambassador to israel. >> representative, we will have to leave it there. thank you for your time. after the break, how israel impasse and got to this point. my colleague, david mo dean,
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we continue to follow the breaking news developing out of the middle east with and then unprecedented and surprise land, c, an air attack on israel by hamas. prime minister benjamin netanyahu making remarks mom to go in tel aviv. saying what happened today has never been seen in israel. it will take, quote, vengeance for this black day. and we now is the host of ayman,
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ayman mohyeldin. but ayman, you have extensive history reporting on this. what are you watching for in terms of what is next? we know that there are hostages. the president confirming entire families right now in gaza with israel going to lay mount some counteroffensive. >> i'm watching both short term and long term responses from the israelis. i think the short term response than i am tracking is israel's ability to assess what has happened on the ground. meaning to get a very clear picture of how many israelis are missing. how many israelis have been killed. we are getting these updates in realtime. the importance of the missing israelis, the captive israelis inside gaza, that is because it is going to determine the pace of the israeli response. if you're talking about dozens of israelis inside gaza, knowing where they are, knowing where they are being held by the various militant groups that may have captured them,
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that is going to determine to what extent is your response. you have seen in the past israel go to great lengths to secure the release it was really surreal jurors. even fall in israeli soldiers, they have secured the release of their remains. this is going to be a very important calculus and how is it was bonds. the nature of the response is going to be important, as. well as we've talked about on the show, gaza is a very densely populated area. if israel decides to go in there, beyond just an aerosol, do they plan on sending troops into the territory? what does that ground region look like? is it simply cutting off urban centers? is it looking like a reoccupation of the gaza strip to try to go after hamas? this is going to be a very challenging operation if israel does go that way. it'll be interesting to see what the egyptians do. i say that because egypt is probably working a lot of backchanneled with hamas right now. trying to understand what hasse's objective was in this. what do they plan to do now
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that they have these captives. let's be clear about it, who took the israelis captive, hamas can be held responsible, as we have heard from either the military. saying, point blank, hamas has opened the gates of hell on gaza. >> let's talk about the region. obviously, no one has a crystal ball. we have heard the president say last hour the world is watching. how will this impact relations? >> i think the first question a lot of people in the region will have to what extent of this was a unilateral hamas operation. the sophistication of this operation. what was involved. the technical know how it is highly unlikely that hamas was able to pull this off without some kind of facilitation by its backers. who specifically? obviously, the point it's pointed at. iran specifically in what capacity were the intermediaries funding the operation? how did the technical know-how inside of gaza?
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hamas has demonstrated they have the determination to do this. they have demonstrated the capability of launching attacks. this is on a different level. reasonably speaking, i think, you're going to see a lot of questions from the intelligence community as to how was this operation planned, executed, and carried out? secondly, whether or not the response from israel, if it does include operations beyond israel's border, in the north, against hezbollah, in syria, perhaps, where a lot of these weapons were ultimately transported. or elsewhere. would that then driver response, broadly speaking, in the region? then you have the diplomatic background of what was happening. this massive potential peace deal between the saudis in the israelis with the americans being the guarantors, if you, will of the security pack. that, now, is going to remain in question. if today's tragic event do not underscore it, the piece that israel is seeking with its neighbors does not necessarily
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bring peace with the palestinians. that is something that, i think, sometimes get lost on people who look at things like the abraham accords and say, this is a new chapter. israel is one step closer to having peace. once they're closer to having regional stability. the -- as israel and jordan have done with other countries. so long as the central issue, the core issue, of the arab israeli conflict -- the arab israeli conflict in the occupation that process. those peace deals to not bring israel closer to resolving that underlying problem. >> we are grateful for your time and expertise. ayman, thank you. you can catch aim into night and every night on msnbc. we will be right back. heart failure and seemingly unrelated symptoms like carpal tunnel syndrome, shortness of breath, and irregular heartbeat could be something more serious
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president, including former president trump, and speaking about the attack in israel. joining us now from the campaign trail is nbc's vaughn hillyard. vaughn, what has the reaction been by gop candidates to the hamas attacks in israel? >> lindsey, you can see donald trump, the former president, speaking right now in waterloo, iowa. we are in cedar rapids where he will be holding his second event of the day. we also heard from the likes of grounder ron desantis. however, it was suggested earlier this morning, while addressing a crowd in iowa as well, that the united states must stand in solidarity with israel and give them the necessary tools --
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it must stand and allow them to respond in a way that they feel fit. we also have nikki haley, the former u.n. ambassador, of course, who any steam in just a bit ago said, quote, make no mistake. hamas is a bloodthirsty terrorist organization backed by iran and determined to kill as many enslaved possible. the reports that israel horrific with a stunning number of dead and wounded. it should be universally condemned. israel has a right to defend its citizens from terror. we must always stand with israel and against this iranian regime. for donald trump, he just addressed in the last five minutes on that stage in waterloo. suggesting the attack -- that hamas would not have launched these attacks if it were not for joe biden being in office. of course, we have heard this refrain when it kind from donald trump when russia's invasion of ukraine, as well as the taliban takeover of afghanistan upon u.s. military leaving afghanistan. for donald trump, this is a
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moment where you directly heard him a few moments ago, referencing the abraham accords in his own presidency. of course, donald trump's presidency, there are a number of complicating factors here. for most of the decision in his administration of december 2017 to recognize jerusalem as the capital of israel and move the u.s. embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. it was a decision that was widely condemned by air emissions, as well as by palestinian president, abbas. this is a moment in which donald trump is going to try to distinguish himself and his tenure at the white house from joe biden. of course, this is a conversation when -- this is one the extends beyond the biden administration in the trump administration. still ahead, foreign leaders across the globe are calling for an end to the escalation
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announced it will hold an emergency meeting tomorrow to address this morning surprise hamas attack on israel. the european union, and several member nations, calling it a terrorist attack and offering their full support for israel. joining us now with global reaction to the attention of your nbc news foreign correspondent molly hunter. molly, what are you hearing about reaction from other countries? >> lindsey, a lot of the reactions from european allies, western capitals, have been very similar to united states. we just heard, of course, from president biden is very strong condemnation. we have been focusing on, the region who else may join the fight. how this may escalate. reactions are gonna share with you that we are particularly interested in, hezbollah, the lebanese armed group issued a statement saying it was, quote, closely following a situation in gaza.
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direct contact in the leadership with the palestinian one of the big worries tonight in tel aviv and for president onions government is that northern front opening up. not only in hezbollah, but the palestinian factions in lebanon, the other reaction, of course, we are paying attention to is iran. and adviser to the supreme leader said that iran supported the palestinians attack, according to a semi official state new site. they said we can graduate the palestinian fighters. they also like to egypt and saudi arabia. saudi arabia and israel, of course, trying to thaw and normalize their relations with the encouragement of the u.s. the saudi foreign minister said the kingdom recalls it's repeated warnings of the dangers of the explosion of the situation. as a result of the continued occupation and degradation of the palestinian people, of their legitimate rights. the condemnation comes, like i said, and a very key time. certainly, possibly, putting that normalization on the rocks. we also have a soundbite, a
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short soundbite, from turkish president erdogan that i wanted to show, lindsey. >> [speaking in a global language] lindsey, as far as reading the tea leaves what the fornication's may say, especially hamas allies joining the fight. i think that everyone right now is in a wait and see mode to see how strongly and when exactly israel retaliates with their full response. as we've been hearing from ralph centers on the ground, that will happen after those hostages, hopefully, or rescued. >> molly hunter, thank you. that wraps it up for us this hour. i'm lindsey reiser, back tomorrow -- simone starts tomorrow. simone starts tomorrow greetings. you are watching simone. i am

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