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they are going to continue to endure attacks against civilians, home demolitions, cutting off of electricity. the israeli general literally said to an audience in public that there is a complete siege on gaza, that they have cut electricity, which means no electricity to homes, to water generators, to hospitals. they are carpet bombing apartment buildings. they have done this four times in the last ten -- less than ten years since 2008. so that war is protracted. i am appealing to a public that cares about all civilians that in order to achieve peace, we can't just be concerned with this moment of crisis. we have to address the root cause, which is the biggest crime against humanity. we dismantle that, we end occupation. we achieve peace for all peoples. >> noura erkat, vr much appreciate your time. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm josé diaz-balart.
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andrea mitchell picks up our special coverage of the war in israel right now. and right now on this special edition of "andrea mitchell reports," israel orders a full siege of the gaza strip pounding hamas with new missile strikes after saturday's shocking surprise attack by air, sea, and ground, described as the first full-scale invasion from hamas into southern israel in history. more than 1,000 people are dead on both sides including at least nine americans. hamas is also claiming to have more than 100 military and civilian hostages including men, women, and children, and some americans who could be used as human shields and bargaining chips. yuni asher is among those pleading for the return of his wife and daughters after they were taken by hamas. >> my wife, my daughter raz less than 5 years old, and my little baby girl, less than 3 years
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old, they're just little babies. they're not even girls. i don't even know if they ate enough, if they're cold or hot, if they're hurt. >> i'll be speaking to more family members of those taken hostage along with israeli and palestinian officials, military experts, and diplomats, and former cia director john brennan on what was iran's role. how were hamas fighters able to overwhelm israel's security, and how high is the risk that the war could spread with attacks against israel from the north, the west bank and beyond. good day, everyone, i'm andrea mitchell in washington with breaking news, our coverage of rapidly moving developments of the war in israel where it is 7:00 p.m. right now. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu saying earlier that the campaign against hamas is just getting started. as israel is launching reprisal attacks against hamas in the densely populated gaza strip, after the militant group
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infiltrated the normally secure border and overwhelmed israel's iron dome with a barrage of missile attacks, this is a live look at gazas now shrouded in darkness, black smoke billowing from multiple buildings. at least 700 israelis have been killed, more than 100 were taken hostage. on the palestinian side, 560 people have been killed and hundreds injured. the u.s. military is moving in aircraft carriers, strike group and military aircraft closer to israel in a show of support and will supply israel with munitions immediately according to officials. this as our own richard engel is caught in the cross fire on the ground reporting earlier from sderot in southern israel. >> stay down, stay down.
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we are in the town of sderot, and there's been a lot of incoming fire here. we believe that it is mortar fire. some of them also appear to have been rockets. they've been coming in quite close. that is why we are on the ground right now. >> joining me now is nbc news correspondent ellison barber who's traveling from tel aviv making her way south, former deputy national security adviser to president obama, ben rhodes, and former cia director john brennan. richard has reported he is safe. ellison, what's the latest from the ground there? >> reporter: hey, andrea, yeah, that city where you saury -- saw richard taking coverage, we were making our way from tel aviv towards a southern city, another place that saw heavy
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rocket fire in the last 20 hours or so, barrages of missiles. we're readjusting a bit right now as we assess depending on what the security situation is right now because it is so fluid. but as we maneuver through here and are talking to you as we make our way around tel aviv and figure out where our team will head to next, we are following all of those reports closely in terms of what richard has experienced there, the death toll. you touched on some of those numbers from the israeli side right now, they say at least 7 people have died. of those dead, at least 73 were soldiers. a lot of people, the focus in israel is on the fact that this attack started seemingly focused on so many civilians, and we have some sound we can play for you from one one resident talking about their frustrations with that. they feel that they are in the midst of a terror attack. that this was a terror attack. that it was unprovoked, unjustified and as the prime minister has said and we have heard and seen since this all began to unfold over the weekend, this is a country at
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war. let's listen to some of what people who live here have been saying. >> trying to be strong but it's so hard. i'm just hoping because i can't deal with something like this. >> we are seeing those numbers of citizens, palestinian citizens in gaza, the number of dead starting to increase into the hundreds now as -- attacking that area. this as you know, andrea -- >> and i think -- >> are saying to media -- >> thank you. stay safe. we have not the best communication as you're moving along there. john brennan, secretary of state blinken was on "meet the press" on sunday with kristen welker and she pressed him on how hamas could have pulled this off.
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>> but mr. secretary, do you acknowledge that both israeli intelligence officials and u.s. intelligence officials were caught off guard here? >> this is an attack that i don't think saw coming in the immediate. >> so was it an intelligence failure, mr. secretary? do you acknowledge it was an intelligence failure? >> the israelis will have plenty of time to look into that. >> former cia director, john brennan, you've worked in national security, the field, the region. how did israel launches an intelligence network and military and the u.s. not see this coming? >> good question, andrea. i think there were a lot of failures that led up to this. clearly, the israelis didn't have the u.n. or technical sources that gave them insight into this. it's apparent now that they misread a lot of the signals that were coming out of gaza in
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terms of activity that is hamas members were engaged in. also, i think they misread hamas' intentions. i think they were relying heavily on the work visas they were given to the gazan workers and believing the money going into gaza was going to appease a palestinian eyre. so i think there were just a lot of misreading. a lot of missteps and miscalculations that went into this. i know israelis are going to be doing a postmortem. i think netanyahu and a lot of israeli politicians leave that by establishing relations with arab states such as bahrain and the emirates, sudan, morocco and potentially saudi arabia, that that was going to reduce or eliminate the risk they face over the course of many, many decades. none of these steps really have addressed the palestinian concerns. i think it just increased the
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militancy of hamas engaging in these horrific, unconscionable acts of violence against the israelis. but it's unfortunate. i think it's been brewing for many, many years, but i think the tactical missteps over the past several months in terms of not seeing that this was going to happen such a large, multidimensional, multipronged attack, this clearly was a failure of epic proportions. >> just to follow up on one thing. there were reports of a cyber attack taking on signals intelligence. that was denied by u.s. officials. what do you know if anything about why they didn't pick anything up in terms of signals intelligence? overhead intelligence. >> clearly, hamas, it has become increasingly sophisticated over the last number of years. did an enormous amount of planning for this and come part menation and were able to get
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knowledge of this operation very limited. so i'm sure many people who were engaged in these plans and preparations were not even aware of what was going to take place or when. it does raise the question about how hamas was able to gain such a sophisticated array of capabilities and sophistication in terms of planning of a terrorist operation like this. that's why people are asking questions about what role did iran have in this operation. >> i want to ask you and peter about this, but there are reports, one in "the wall street journal" which u.s. officials are denying and which iran has denied, that iran directed this, planned it, was in on it for weeks if not months. >> well i think the decision to engage in this operation came from the hamas leadership. the leader of hamas. but i think it's quite evident that over the year, iran has provided financial support, material, other types of
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assistance to hamas. iran has been the principle benefactor. i don't believe directed this or organized it, but i think iran has responsibility for some of the capabilities hamas has been able to acquire over the last couple of years. >> and ben, former national security adviser of course, had to deal with this issue for eight years under president obama. can you understand how there could have been such an intelligence failure in both capitals, primarily israel, but the u.s. didn't pick up on this either. >>. >> yeah, first of all, i think the question of the iranian involvement, i'd be a little careful with "the wall street journal" story. it is clear iran has provided a lot of support to hamas and there will have to be careful efforts, but the kind of high level meetings in that report,
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the idea that those wouldn't be picked up by u.s. israeli intelligence, that seemed pe peculiar to me. i'd echo what john said. two things stand out. the first that hamas has never attempted something this ambitious, this complex, that would have required many, many months of planning to preposition capabilities to have that kind of air, land, and sea capability all coordinated at once. that speaks to hamas who is not just focused on governing the enclave of gaza but the focused on the armed resistance of israel and is willing to take greater risk. the timing of the attack probably has something to do with the divisions in the israeli government. probably has to do with the palestinian authority is as weak
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as it's ever been and may have something to do with these normalization deals in the sense that because the palestinians have been cut out of that process. because there's potentially a -- hamas may have wanted to do something that would rouse public opinion in a way that would make it harder for those deals. i do think that john's point is important. this is also a policy failure. the idea that you could wall people off from gaza like this, periodically have these military operations as we've had four proceeding this attack by hamas. essentially go over the heads of the palestinians to resolve disputes in the gulf and other places. that's not going to make this issue go away. unfortunately, the status quo was unsustainable and we are now in a new reality in the middle east. it's going to take a long time to adjust and sort out and hopefully the number of people that get killed in that can be minimized here because this
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really has the potential to escalate really beyond what we see. >> we should point out those were live pictures so there were new explosions in gaza while you were on the air. i know it was obviously disconcerting. we don't know exactly, it's the dark of night now. but ben, is it that there was a view that the palestinians and their aspirations for land, two state solution, could be ignored by this coalition? and by others in the region. >> i think that's right, andrea. i think there was the view this could be ignored, that it was yesterday's news. the new reality was one in which you had these normalization deals and that could kind of create a peace and stability in the region over time. while there are obviously benefits to those deals in terms of increased commerce and tied to israelis and other countries, it didn't resolve the question of what happens to millions of palestinians. including the 2 million palestinians that live in gaza. it also further weakened the
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palestinian authority which has weakened itself. some of the authority for palestinian weakness lies in the headquarters of palestinian authority, but i do think that it created a vacuum in the palestinian territories and hamas is trying to fill that vacuum and because of the nature of hamas, they're trying to do it in the most horrific way possible with the kinds of attacks we've seen in the last two or three days. >> ben rhodes, john brennan, thank you both so much. appreciate it. and you're watching msnbc's special coverage of the war in israel. hundreds turning out for the military funeral of a soldier killed saturday while fighting hamas militants near a large music festival near the gaza border. ♪ tourists tourists that turn into scientists. tourists taking photos that are analyzed by ai.
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at least 130 hostages. israeli officials have not confirmed those numbers. joining us now is an israeli mother. her 12 and 16-year-old boys were kidnapped. she was on the phone with them when they started to hear gunfire. she then heard the terrorists breaking down the door and taking her sons before the line was cut. she's asked us not to use her name. i cannot imagine your anguish. have you heard anything more about your sons' conditions or any ransom demand or anything else on their condition? >> no, i heard nothing from saturday morning when we last heard, contact with them. >> were they at home? >> they were home at my place. it was their weekend with their father, we're divorced. he was at his place. we're both members of the same
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sentiment on the gaza border. which is a few hundred meters away. it's not far. that's why they usually sleep at my place. this is where they feel comfortable. they're 12 and 16 so it's you know, on a rational, normal world, it's a good solution. they were in their beds at 6:30. >> i think we have lost the condition. we're going to try to reestablish that. but it's obviously you know, a devastating situation for hundreds of families in israel. the innocent palestinians, kelly cobiella is heading to the gaza border to southern israel to those border towns. kelly, what are you hearing from other people you've talked to
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now? >> we spoke to a number of families trying to find any information about their families. one man i spoke to last night said his 28-year-old brother was at that music festival in the desert in the south. he said his brother's phone was working. his brother or someone close to him sent a picture of him. he was bloodied but alive. he was bandaged by someone who said that he was helping him over that phone line then suddenly said they're back. and the phone line was cut. that is the last communication he's had from his 28-year-old brother. he doesn't know if he's been kidnapped or killed but he contacted me today and said his brother's phone was active again. he could see his brother's phone was on and active but haven't been able to find out whether or not he could trace it.
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this is the problem, andrea. these people are getting bits of information but don't have the full story. they're really struggling to find out what's happening to their families, friends, colleagues and getting little information from the state. it's a complicated problem for the israeli government having so many people potentially missing, kidnapped and being held in gaza as they're carrying out this intense operation in gaza strip. the idf saying moments ago between sunday and monday, they i believe used 1200 strikes against gaza and doubled that number just between this morning and tonight. so really an intensive campaign happening there. there are hostages there. there are gaza civilians who live in gaza in that territory all trying to stay safe.
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>> kelly cobiella, thank you so much and we now have the mother back on with us. we were going to ask you about what you were saying to your boys. you were trying to keep them calm. tell us about that. >> yeah, i was on the phone to them and trying to calm them down, saying you know, the military is going to get there. they're safe. they're in their home. this is what we always tell them. and then at approximately -- they started hearing voices of the door breaking. they were with me on the phone and i asked them to be quiet to stay quiet. they were in a safe room, which is a bedroom of the oldest who was 16, as i said. about ten minutes later, i could hear people speaking in arabic outside their door. the last thing i heard was the
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youngest saying don't take me. that was it. that was the last time i heard from them. >> i am so sorry. we're all thinking about you. have you heard anything from the government? >> no, unfortunately not yet. the army is now getting in touch with families i know and you know, i'm keeping my hopes up that they're alive and well. i know that their father and his spouse were taken, also, because we've seen one of the videos that hamas put on so we know that they're alive and i'm hoping they're with them. and as they took hundreds of children, babies, women, and elderly people, some of them from the place i live in, i'm hopeful that they're all together and they have other people they know around them.
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to keep them safe and to give them a hug. >> so that they're all together. >> i just want them back home. >> i'm sure you want them to be with people they know so they're not alone there. but what are your feelings about the attacks against gaza right now? >> you're looking for a symmetrical situation and i must say, it isn't. if you were dealing with a war who is between two countries, countries don't take children hostages. i'm sorry. it's against the laws of war. it's against humanity. it's against anything that we all believe in. every time we have missiles shot at us, i used to say to my children that they should be
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sympathetic towards the children of gaza because they suffer a lot more than they do. i'm not sure i still believe in it now. the only worry i have now from the bombings in gaza is the fact that my children are there. and i can't be sympathetic anymore, to animal human beings, well, they're not really human beings, who came into my house, broke everything, stole everything, took my children from their bedrooms and took them to the gaza strip. israel never done that and will never do. so there is no symmetry. i'm sorry. >> do you want -- do you want the government to put the top priority on getting the hostages out before -- >> i want my government to put it on the first priority and i want the world to put it on first priority. i think any mother in the world should try and imagine her children under that situation and then think again.
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that's all i want. i want the world to ask them to release children. to release elderlies. to release the civilians they took. there is no reason to hold them there. they are not soldiers. they are not part of the war. and they have nothing to do with it. we gave them work permits. we really believed that this was the way to move their economy to, to reconnect these two so-called countries. this is not the way a country behaves. this is the way that a terror organization behaves. i'm sorry. so, again, there's no symmetry. >> and again, you've not heard from the government since saturday when this horrific thing happened. >> and i said i have been
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contacted but they haven't had any news for me. they just wanted to know what i know and to get my information. as far as i'm concerned, there's no news. they have been in contact but there's no news. and obviously there's lots for the government in israel to learn from this situation. but i'm not focused on that. i'm focused on the world helping to release my children and the other hundreds of civilians held hostage in the gaza strip. that's all i'm focused on. there will with time to rethink. time to learn. there will be time to make conclusions. it's not now. >> that is completely understandable. we can't even imagine your agony. >> thank you. >> at least you know, you are getting your message out and i
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know that's why you're doing this. you want the world to know. >> yes, thank you very much for giving me the opportunity. >> thank you. and wishing you our prayers and hearts are with you. thank you. >> thank you. >> for sharing your grief with us. your agony. and we'll have more. we'll be right back. more ahead as the people in israel are doing their part to help their country like those who lined up in jerusalem this morning donating blood. >> the country's under attack. country's at war. and as a civilian, it's very important to do my part. to do what i can. an infrastructure. megawatts of power, rails and open road, and essential services of every kind. all running on countless invisible networks, making it a prime target for cyberattacks.
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an important jewish holiday. israel's emergency medical teams had to spring into action. the emergency organization sent 100 rescue vehicles and mobile intensive care units south along with armored vests and helmets. i'm joined by the vice president in the southern region. what have the last 24 hours been like for you and your teams on the ground? >> well, it's been 48 hours plus and it's been the most terrifying. we've experienced here and i've been in ems now for 35 years, nothing has prepared us for an attack on this scale. and not with the numbers and not what's the word for it even? i don't know how to explan it. it must be one of the most difficult events we've ever responded to. >> what are the resources you
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need? do you need supplies? what do you need going forward? >> we're operating with 1500 em trks and doctors in areas that were struck by the terrorists and towns over 900 people were killed in and over 3,000 people were injured. we are using massive amounts of hemorrhage control, turner kits, bandages, advanced life support equipment and the ambulances and helicopters used to transport these patients. many of them civilians in the south and north part of the country. >> at this point, israeli government has said they have regained control over those villages and others, settlements there in southern israel. as far as you know, is that region now secure and under israeli control again? >> soo as far as we know,
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working with israeli skurs forces, yes, the vast majority of these towns and villages have been cleared and now they're in violation of recovery there taking out hundreds of bodies from these villages that were unaccessible in the past 48 hours. however, even during this operation, there's an alert saying there's a suspected terrorist and we are cleared out immediately for safety purposes while the security forces and idf do their operation in the village and we take the victims back out to medical attention. >> how concerned are you about reports that they also, when they came over, they took ambulances, police and security and military vehicles. they were on one of the military bases. so how secure is it where you are right now? >> well, we know for a fact we're in a secure zone. it's clear to us.
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however, the 1500 volunteers here and other 5,000 volunteers here throughout the country getting on rotations with us here are very devoted with this mission, understanding this is a war on protecting our home. we're treating our neighbors from our communities. many of the people injured. amongst them, are volunteers. some of the people taken hostage into gaza are our volunteers like one of those ambulance drivers that his ambulance was taken into gaza and he's been unaccounted for ever since. we've had volunteers killed and injured as well. it's dangerous. it's scary. but we understand that we need to help these people. there's no way to know how long this is going to last. you're now having to adjust to the sudden reality israel's at war. how do you manage that? >> israel is at war and we're looking at not only the southern region but also the possibility
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of the northern border. we're looking at a multifront conflict and looking at our resources trying to understand how we can divide and conquer as far as medical treatment, north, south, and west bank area. trying to understand how best we can utilize our resources and give the best attention. we know that this is going to be very difficult. we know that it's going to be days possibly even weeks. >> it has not fortunately so far at least, it has not come in any significant amount from the north from hezbollah in the north but that is the real threat right now that everyone is focused on. thank you. good luck to you. please stay safe. >> thank you very much. >> and despite backing hamas for years with arms and funding, iran's foreign ministry is denying accusations that iran played a significant role in the attack other than being the main source of military support to
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hamas for years and years. joining us now is peter baker and dennis vos who played a key role to advance peace in the middle east. helping to broker the peace treaty between israel and jordan in 1994. facilitating the 1997 war and now is a fellow at washington institute for mideast policy. thank you very much. ambassador ross, what should you make of statements from iran? do you think that iran's involvement was as "the wall street journal" reported and has been denied by the u.s., was more specifically to plan and direct this attack? >> it's inconceivable they didn't play a role. we know hamas leaders went to tehran. we know they organized meetings between hezbollah and hamas.
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we know they are providing materials and money. so they played a role whether they were instrumental in planning it. that's not clear. but what is clear is this doesn't happen without iranian support, inspiration and efforts. so yes, in my mind, they're part of this. i think what drove it is their fear, the hamas fear, there was going to be a saudi breakthrough and it was going to transform the area and also highlight those countries in the region that are essentially successful versus iran and its proxies who are really presiding over failed societies. >> was that partly also a mistake by the current coalition in not paying enough attention to the palestinian demands for some kind of land that would create a palestinian state? demands that go back that you
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helped negotiation. >> we can get into whether there should have been a different approach towards the palestinians. there will be plenty of time i think to sort of think about can you preserve a situation that's frozen? can you preserve a situation where you don't deal with palestinians and think there will never be a consequence. i think right now, one of the things to realize what i think produced this is that israel had large numbers of forces in the west bank to deal with increasing levels of violence and terror there. large forces on their border with lebanon because they anticipated that something might happen from hezbollah because hezbollah has been engaging in provocative actions for the last two months. and they had very limited forces down in the south because they assumed there was a limited chance of hamas doing anything like this. partly because israel was allowing 20,000 palestinians in
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gaza to work every day and hamas seemed quite interested in that. just had indirect negotiations with egyptians to stop demonstrations along the border in gaza and it was worked out in the last week. again to allow these workers to come in. so there was a false set of perceptions about hamas on the one hand and there were israel military forces built up in significant numbers in the west bank and in the north, leaving this border largely unattended. >> peter baker, from your reporting, do you think that was a deliberate strategy? >> i think there's going to be a lot of second guessing about how this came about and the signs that were missed. if there were signs. the egyptians are reported as saying they warned prime minister netanyahu's office.
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put out a statement saying no, that's not true. why there were more israeli attention to what was happening on the border will be debated. i think you know, this is such an extraordinary event, scale of which is so massive and unprecedented in a lot of ways certainly in the last 50 years that there's going to be a lot of second guessing about immediate issues, security, as well as deeper eshs about the conflict you just raised. i know we'll get to a rational debate in the immediate term while they're still fighting on the ground, still hostages being held by hamas and there's still people in danger now. really going to be in danger in gaza now as in israel. a lot of people who had nothing to do with this will be paying the price. >> peter, do you agree this could have been an iranian attempt to derail momentum towards that potential agreement
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between saudi arabia and israel to recognize israel? >> yeah, american officials will say it's too soon to make that conclusion but it's too hard not to look at the timing of it and think there may have been a role. the israels and saudis have signalled strongly in recent weeks they were making quite a momentum toward a deal by the biden administration. that had to have troubled and bothered and alarmed tehran. they had to have sparked thinking. this is a pretty extensive military style terrorist style operation here that was not pulled together in the last couple of days or weeks. there's some reporting that goes back a year. so you know, it's hard to make an explicit, direct link. that's the suspicious is that right now, certainly obviously
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anything between israel and saudi arabia is not likely in the near term. it's still possible down the road but it's had the effect of throwing a great deal of uncertainty into that process. >> as you know, i was interviewing a mother whose sons, teenage sons were taken. she's not heard from them since saturday. how can israel attacking and we see the ariel attacks going on, attacking gaza without potentially endangering the hostages being used as human shields? >> there's no doubt i think one of the reasons that hamas took the hostages or took large numbers of hostages, they thought this would deter the israelis from attacking. and it's a complete misreading. it's not that israel isn't concerned about the hostages and probably will try to carry out rescue operations.
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one of the israeli elite units was able to capture a deputy commander of hamas and no doubt that purpose was for intelligence reasons, but i think everyone needs to understand israel right now is not going to operate according to the old playbook. hamas basically has crossed every conceivable line. it has done this. it's not unusual for hamas to be attacking israel. even as israel withdrew from gaza in 2005, hamas continued to attack it. even attacking the crossing points immediately after the israeli withdrew. they have never given up what is their mission of attacking israelis, killing israelis. they've done it much more successfully this time. peter said correctly in an unprecedented way, first time israel has suffered these kind of fatalities and casualties in israel since 1948 in its war of independence. so the playbook that israel's
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going to use is going to be not one we've seen before. they want to get their hostages back but we're not going to see them acting in a way that is designed to avoid going after hamas. i don't even collude the possibility that israel will in fact end up reopening gaza. we should not exclude that. this is a different situation. the loss of a sense of security is immense and israel's going to act in a way that makes sure that hamas is never in a position again to be able to threaten it. >> can they accomplish that with the tunnels? >> it will be very difficult. the cost of doing what i just described will be very high. high for the israels. unfortunately, much higher for the palestinians who live in gaza. the reality is hamas, all of hamas and the tunnels, that's not where the palestinian public is. the palestinian public is in
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positions that are necessarily risky. israel has put out messages to leave seven areas in gaza and go to other areas in gaza for the public. but not all palestinians who are in a position to be mobile. so you know, we're looking at what is going to be a very high cost and the one who bears responsibility for it is hamas. once again, they've put the well-being of their own people as the lowest priority. >> thanks so much to both of you. and msnbc's special coverage of the war in israel continues in a moment with a look at how the chaos on capitol hill could impact the american response. >> tech: cracked windshield on your new car? bring it to safelite. my customer was enjoying her new car, when her windshield cracked. [gasp] >> customer: my car! >> tech vo: she didn't take it to the dealer. she scheduled with safelite. we have the latest technology for the newest vehicles. and we do more replacements and recalibrations than anyone else.
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so please call or go online to myaclu.org to become a guardian of liberty, today. reproshma. without a speaker and with both houses not back in session, congress is not able to play its part in responding immediately to the crisis. members of both houses have had unclassified briefings from the administration by phone but are not nerney secure locations for detailed intelligence. two sources familiar tells nbc news that house intelligence members will receiver a classified briefing tomorrow. senators aren't back until next week. a bipartisan pair of house lawmakers are introducing a legislation when the house returns tomorrow to hold hamas accountable and support additional security assistance to israel which, by the way, the
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administration has already announced they're doing with the launch of the carrier group to the region and also the pentagon has promised to le supply israel's military. joining me are the lawmakers leading that resolution. democratic congressman don davis in north carolina and republican congressman zach nunn of iowa. can the house take action on this resolution without a speaker? >> andrea, i think the most important thing is that we have a -- reflects -- don and i have always been in office for nine months. we're both military guys. we're focused to make sure we have a plan in place so we know israel is supported, that the white house knows that congress has a focus point to make sure that israel is protected. and equally important, that hamas knows that the u.s. is going to stand fully with israel which will be a clear indicator
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for hezbollah, syria and iran not to resupply this effort. we want to end this conflict now so it doesn't spill over into a regional conflict. >> congressman davis, should congress look into whether or not the u.s. had an intelligence failure? there was no warning at all here. >> i believe it's important for us to allow israel to, one, engage in what's taking place on the ground. two -- >> i think we may have had a computer glitch there, a zoom glitch. congressman, we'll try to re-establish with congressman davis. how much does the situation in israel raise the stakes for the speaker election? and have you decided whom you're supporting? >> andrea, i think don and i are in opposite parties but continually focused in that we have to have a functional house. we have to have a speaker who is able to pass budgets, move
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legislation and in crises like this -- let's not forget that the speaker is second in line to the commander-in-chief. as a pragmatic member of congress, i want the speaker election to happen immediately. i'm flying back shortly to washington, d.c. after just a few hours at home with my kids. let's get down to business of electing a presiding officer over the people's house. this is something the majority of republicans want to do. i believe we have the ability to get this done this week and we can immediately start helping those in need. as you're watching right now, israel is under attack. this is a powder keg about to explode -- provide deterrence in the region to make sure this doesn't turn into something much, much worse. >> we're seeing, by the way, in a split screen, more explosions inside gaza that's the noise if you don't have the video up.
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congressman, what about the lack of a speaker? can you even get a resolution on the floor, can the speaker pro tem, patrick mchenry do that? there's a big argument going on that he cannot? >> both don and i are military guys. i spent 20 years in counterintelligence. i understand that operations occur at realtime and they don't wait for politics to play out. i've been in contact with the speaker's office. patrick mchenry is a good friend. he recognizes this is important. i think we have a number of individuals who would like to become speaker. more important than that is that we have a mission focused on delivering things that are important. this resolution goes forward, even if it's not moved to the floor tomorrow, it's a clear indication with the number of bipartisan members who have cosigned this, that the house stands ready to defend israel, we're ready to work with the senate, with the white house. and in turn, that the white house is being accountable for
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the type of funds being released or additional aid to the palestinians does not happen during this -- [ explosion ] it's very important to send a clear signal to where the majority of house members are in making sure we hold hamas accountable. that's what this resolution does -- whether it's voted on today or three days is less important than the fact that we're moving forward with bipartisan support. >> congressman zach nunn, thank you. our thanks to congressman davis. our special coverage of the war in israel continues with new video of the strikes inside gaza. full coverage from the region coming up. we'll be right back right here on msnbc. be right back right hee on msnbc
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right now on our special coverage of the war in israel, unrelenting israeli forces bombarding gaza with air strikes, implementing a full siege of the strip, cutting off power, water and other supplies, hunting down hamas terrorists still inside southern israeli. a ground invasion complicated by a massive hostage situation, including americans. israel's ambassador to the united states will be joining me this hour. plus, the show of support with the pentagon repositioning a carrier strike group and