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vossoughian live for you here from msnbc headquarters. we are going to begin with some breaking news. as night falls in the middle east, here is what is new this hour. we just heard from the idf, big, breaking news. a statement releaseby them that idea forces,backed by an extensive logistical effort and by completing the reserve mobilization of hundreds of thousands of servicemen, are preparing to implement a wide range of offensive operative plans which include, among other things, and integrated and coordinated attack from the air, sea, and land.

we are going to get a live report from israel in a moment on what this all means. also some other headlines are happening this hour, as well. three hours past if you outlined for the evacuation of northern gaza. the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, telling his soldiers, quote, the next age is coming. and new report from nbc news saying u.s. officials privately low on israel to show restraint. and the u.n. saying humanitarian crisis and gaza is intensifying with no remaining drinking water for 2 million people there. israel's defense forces are pressing ahead with a retaliation against hamas against among the attacked. releasing this new video by fending off the attack by sea last saturday. prime minister netanyahu met with military saying the next

stage is coming. idf military forces are, in fact, ready. >> they are all around the gaza strip. and the south, in the center, and in the north. they are preparing themselves for whatever target they will get, whatever task. as i have said before, our aim is very clear, the and state of this war is we will dismantle hamas and its military capabilities. we will fundamentally change the situation so hamas never has the ability to inflict any damage on israeli civilians or soldiers. on israeli civilians or soldiers this is the scene from inside gaza, this israeli strike coming as paramedics were rescuing victims of a previous strike. here is part of a report nbc news chief correspondent,

richard engel. >> israel says it is offering palestinians safe passage from northern gaza to the south for the next several hours. israel isn't stopping its airstrikes. many, today, are focusing on southern gaza where israel has told palestinians to go. medical officials tell nbc news an israeli airstrike friday struck a convoy as it was trying to head south from gaza city, killing 70 palestinians and wounding 200. most of them, women and children. 1 million palestinians now face an impossible choice. stay in northern gaza, face a possible israeli incursion, or flee to the south as refugees, maybe get bombed on the way. >> turkey and egypt say they will not taken palestinian exiles thing this world. american citizens should be on standby for an opening on the egypt gaza border for their safe passage. these are the latest confirmed

numbers as of5 eastern today. 1300 killed in israel. 2269 people killed in gaza and the west bank, as well. we have reporters in place around the world for us from israel, to lebanon, back here in the united states, covering all of the day's developments. we want to begin with nbc's kelly cobiella who was on the ground for us in jerusalem. the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, saying the next stage is coming. we just got that indication from the idf with that legal statement. talk us through it, kelly. >> that is right. if you look at that statement in its entirety there is no specific timing for this large-scale assault on hamas. there is a reference to offensives about to be carried out, or planned, by air, sea, and land. there is talk of preparing the ground with logistics

preparations ahead of going in on the ground in gaza. no specifics in terms of timing. we have been talking about the potential for a ground offensive now for a good couple of days. still have not got any idea of when it might happen. the idf has now given civilians in gaza, in the north, two days, essentially, to get out of the way. to get to the south. we are talking about 1 million plus people trying to move south ahead of this ground invasion. still moving today. there was safe passage granted by the idf, they said, along to north out route for a period of about six hours. from ten until four in the afternoon. even after that people were still on the road, still trying to get out of the city. it is an extremely difficult situation inside of gaza for people who are still in the north. or for people throughout the

strip, actually. the water situation is dire. the u.n. says that there is no more water. they say that this is a life and death situation. they need fuel inside gaza in order to run the water sanitation plants and to get the water running again so that people have drinking water. on top of that a lot of people were not able to get out of the north. they are still there. in fact, the head of the largest hospital in gaza says that 35,000 people are taking shelter just in the hospital. the united nations estimates that hundreds of thousands of people have gotten out of northern gaza. there is no good count of how many people are still there. a very, very, dangerous situation for the people in gaza tonight. air attacks, airstrikes have continued, tonight. we have this message from the idea that they are prepared for

some sort of invasion by ground, see, and air, as they put it. you have been? >> 35,000 people hunkering down in the hospital with no resources, no portable drinking water, running out of food, i imagine, as well. under dire circumstances. what is happening in israel this evening, as well, from what you have been seeing? >> so, war planning continues. there has been no official announcementthe prime minister or any other political leaders here tonight. unclear if that would proceed the ground offensive or if it would start first and then we will have some sort of nation statement from benjamin netanyahu. chabot just wrapped up, it just ended a couple hours ago. it has been extremely quiet in jerusalem throughout the day. in the places we visited over

the past several days it has been the same mood throughout. very somber. people still very much in shock, very angry, as well. not only with their government but, also, because of the atrocities and because of the number of people who were slaughtered. a mix of a very somber mood here. a lot of anger. yasmin? >> kelly cobiella for. thank you. i want to bring in clint watts. former fbi special agent. and mitt nbc national security analyst, as well. i want to talk about this. we are getting the statement in from the idf. there was this assumption, especially from the fort we've been gettg the ground, with the lineup of tanks along with the israeli gaza border. they are preparing for this ground invasion. now getting the statement, onc again, i will read for folks and then have you react and give your expectations here. idea forces, backed by an expensive logistical effort and by completing theesve mobilization of hundreds o

thousands of divestment are preparing to implement a wide range of offensive operative plants which include, among other things, and integrated and coordinated tack from the air, sea, and land. what are your expectations from what you're hearing here, and what we have been seeing, of course, on the ground, as well? as to when this ground incursion would begin? >> i think a lot of these statements are multifaceted. one, they are saying they're ready. to, they are also putting pressure on the international community in many ways. the humanitarian situation in the south is going to be dire. water, electric, food. all of the things have been cut off. the gaza strip is under siege at this point. they are going to need help from outside a certain point. we are still looking at evacuating americans through the rafah. there were some confusion today. the u.s. has said to stand by. the u.s. has been, somewhat, quiet about what they are going to do. at the same point, the israelis don't want to get caught off guard by hamas in the north.

excuse me, hezbollah in the north. they want to focus their energy on hamas around gaza. the longer they wait, the more they hesitate, the more time hezbollah could be a spoiler in some ways. drying forces back to the north. they do not have much time. i imagine at this point they are probably well into their reconnaissance inside gaza, preparing for where they are going to go. trying to identify where the official footholds will be. how they will go about doing the breach operations. they are also, probably, still trying to rescue hostages. if they get any intelligence that is actionable, i'm sure they already moving on them at this point. >> you've mentioned a lot of really important things that i want to dig in on. you talk first about any intelligence that is actionable. i think much of the intelligence that is being gathered right now is being questioned. not just internally, in israel, because of what took place last saturday but globally, as well. especially with the cia report that was just released that there was some activity, possibly, happening. not to this extent, but there

did seem to be some activity happening in the days leading up to the attack on saturday. we know the mossad has a very intense surveillance on gaza, and yet they missed this. how reliant can they be before the ground invasion on the intelligence they are getting on a human intelligence they are getting from inside gaza to avoid both killing israeli hostages, along with killing innocent civilians, innocent palestinian civilians? >> i would imagine at this point, human intelligence, they probably relied on a very heavily the past few days to try to identify where hostages are. now you're talking about a situation with 1 million people moving down to the south. it is gonna be very difficult, i would imagine, for the israelis to keep any remaining human intelligence assets in place. the second part is they are also going to communication

blackouts. remember, cell tower, cell signals, all communication channels, when the power goes out those things start to dwindle. you have less and less ability to do that. i'm sure the air ground technical systems are top-notch. they have already deployed them in a very robust way. i would imagine they are scouring everything that is left in terms of a signal. no matter what they do, once they cross the fence line in the head in there, you're talking about a three level fight. up, on the ground, and downed. that is a sub turning conflict that is underneath of buildings. the remaining hamas militants will be waiting. it's going to be interesting to see how quickly they proceed. what the expectations they set for how long it will take him for them to clear out the hamas militants. >> and then about avoiding killing innocent civilians, innocent palestinians. i know the biden administration urging the prime minister to adhere to international laws of war. we are getting some reports in from the human rights watch on the use of phosphorus gas in gaza. the idf is denying that.

nonetheless, at this point does it seem as if we are reaching a stage in which the israelis are making the calculation, if you have not yet gotten out, you may in fact be killed. >> i think that that is what they've been trying to stress over the last 48 hours. move or you are putting yourself at risk. and that is the calculation that they have made and i think that there is some urgency. i think the hostages probably put some urgency into their plan. if you are in a situation where also billions had left and there were no hostages, they could probably refer to moors each type of warfare. you might remember about mario bowl with russians surrounding variable about a year and a half ago. they could secure something like that, but there is a sense of urgency. there is an amount of time in which they have to execute and the longer they sit and wait anybody in the gaza strip they know what is coming. they can see what is coming. there's no real sense of surprise. and so i'm sure for the idea,

they're really trying to take aggressive action to push forward as quickly as possible, not letting the adversary in this case hamas militants set up their defenses in a way that could be more successful or deeper and harder to penetrate. >> i will go to that in just a moment, clint, but before i do though i want to get your read on it. and you talked a little bit about this, obviously the threat from the north, that being hezbollah. hezbollah primarily funded and backed by iran. we know the iran's foreign minister was recently in beirut, made announcement earlier this morning. we will be hearing more about that from matt bradley on the ground there, but how worried are you about the threat of hezbollafrom the north. >> yeah, for the most part it has en quieter than i expected. there has been some exchange of fire. there's been some rockets going to the south. there have been airstrikes to the north and rocket strikes to the north. i think for the israelis, they've already deployed a lot of their force, and i just have to remind people, they've brought up over 300,000 reservists. this is a very small area, and

when you have that number of troops both active and 300,000 reservists, that is a sizeable military force. and hezbollah fought a war in 2006 with israel, they did not do well. the israelis handled them quite quickly. i think that they would have to decide how much they want to bite off in the situation. and then that brings in the possibility of escalation from iran. iran is a backer of both hamas and hezbollah. hezbollah is much stronger and more advanced terrorist group in the region. but still at the same point, i'm not seeing strong indications that hezbollah is racing to join in or it was really even coordinating with hamas. i would've expected that hamas was going to do this awful terrorist attack a week ago. you would've seen hezbollah moved in right away if they were coordinated together. if this is backed by iran. instead, it seemed like hezbollah was kind of caught off guard, did not react well strongly, and for those rocket attacks we've come across in effect so far they don't seem to be coordinated.

it does not mean that they won't lose their position. >> doesn't mean they won't change. >> it doesn't mean that it's a big northern front. >> okay, clint watts for us, thank you so much clint. want to talk to you, matt bradley is in lebanon for us on the border with israel. so talk to me matt about what i was just talking about with clint. i know iran's foreign minister met with the leader of hezbollah, we and spoke earlier today in beirut. >> he's not only spoke with hassan hezbollah, but he's also head back to beirut. and as we were talking about this in realtime. as mr. watts was saying, we are seeing it back and forth. we're seeing as hezbollah announced today that they fired some 50 more rounds at the farms, which is a dispute area between israel and lebanon that is partially occupied by the israelis. and then we have also been seeing rockets and artillery being fired by hezbollah into israeli territory and responses

coming back. kill the journalist yesterday for reuters and injured six other journalists. things are really heated up, but the fact is as mr. watts was just saying, there is a choreography here. there is in informal rules of engagement which are governing the interchange between israelis and hezbollah ever since 2006, and ever since 2000 when the israelis finally withdrew from here in southern lebanon, and so far despite the insane level of violence we've been seeing in israel in the gaza strip, we are not seeing it matching level of violence here, even if we are seeing a uptick in the violence. and so it is something that shows that both sides are still trying to restrain themselves, but with the iranian foreign minister making the rounds from different capitals, beirut to damascus, presumably back today bigger to get, it looks like we're trying to see that decision, the hamster wheel turning in realtime. we might get something coming out of beirut or of damascus, and we might get hezbollah

pushed into this war or not pushed into this war. all of that depends on what happens with israel, how they approach the gaza strip, and whether hezbollah and i've been speaking with analysts weather hezbollah is able to live up to what sounds like it's self styled station here as a deterrence against the israelis moving into the gaza strip. >> yeah, and wondering also, it's kind of an intimidation factor being marked by the iranian government there as they're meeting with hezbollah and other forces as well, that they continue to support. matt bradley for us, thank you sir. appreciate it. a group warning of a humanitarian catastrophe. who is helping the thousands of palestinians trying to escape and survive? we were back in just 60 seconds. seconds. this is american infrastructure, a prime target for cyberattacks. but the same ai-powered security that protects all of google also defends these services for everyone who lives here. ♪

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statement for you, saying that idf forces backed by it extensively just tickle effort and under the thousands of serviceman, they're preparing to implement a wide range of offensive operative plans which include among other things a integrating coordinated attack from the air, the sea, and the land. so all of this happening while you have thousands of palestinians who are evacuating to the southern half of gaza ahead of what appears to be an imminent ground offensive by israeli troops. the u.n. and in groups warning of a looming humanitarian catastrophe as palestinians are fleeing the violence, and desperately seeking food, they are seeking fuel, medical attention, and they don't even have drinking water at this point after a weeklong black aide. i want to bring in juliette -- director of communications for the united nations relief and works agency to talk about this. julia, thanks for joining us. if you can, and i just lay that in brief terms, laid out more intricately what palestinians are facing right now as they try to escape to the south with

this impending ground incursion. >> great, and thank you very much. water is running out, and it is running out fast and it has become a matter of life and death really in 2 million people in gaza do not have access to a drinking water, and the pipes are not working. the networks are not working. and so we call this morning to get in some fuel that is urgently needed for the conflict stations to start working. desalination as well. and so i do not dry of dehydration or worse. >> your agency has been affected as well. 30 students at you in the schools have been killed so far in gaza just in the last week. how are you keeping the others safe?

>> in fact, we lost additional two. so the number of staff who have been killed in the past week alone is now 13. this is what we know about. the number could be in the higher, and same for the children in our schools. our teams are terrified. they are frustrated. they are exhausted. many of them have moved, many of them have moved since the israeli authorities put out this horrendous call asking people to evacuate. so many of them have become displaced themselves. i was just on the phone there while i was waiting with a colleague who said, who was displaced himself, and he was saying to me, i keep myself busy because i am in the center. i just give assistance to people. so that is not his job.

he is in communications. so people have lost quite a lot, but they are still there. they are still doing what they can. they are our unsung heroes. >> move to where and how, juliette touma, where are they even able to go? to >> then within the northern part of gaza and gaza city and further south towards rafah close to the borders with egypt. >> juliette touma, police stay in touch with us as this war continues. we appreciate your voice. thank you. you might have noticed it where you live. there is more police presence everywhere. tighter security. coming up next, the impact of this crisis here in this country.

welcome back, everybody. yesterday, one of the former leaders of hamas was calling for a day of solidarity with palestinians. and asking for all to support

in protest for the palestinians. we are seeing one of the protests happening today in london. we are taking a live look at some of the images of this probe palestinian protest. when what i believe it's trafalgar square. we've been seeing that happen across the country and across the world in certain areas. we know the french president, emmanuel macron, essentially said that pro palestinian protests cannot happen there. if, in fact, he showed to a proposed in a protest he will be arrested. all of that happening while the israel-hamas war is creating new safety concerns here in the united states, putting the police on high alert. -- in new york city for us to talk more about this. george, have you noticed this increased police presence since you've been out? >> yes, yasmin. we certainly have. the nypd increasing their visibility. all officers who are not on special detail, or of recover, are in uniform. they've been outside of synagogues, jewish schools, and businesses.

some of these demonstrations we have seen throughout the last several days. the foot patrols we've actually seen drones, other means who may not be available to the public just to make sure that these demonstrations, while obviously tense, have remained peaceful. that is happening around the globe, frankly. these debates tree should keep capital. we mentioned the one in london. the metropolitan police they're saying they have thousands of oscars to make sure that things remain peaceful. they are saying as long as no one is showing any hamas imagery, and not covering their phase, these demonstrators will be allowed to go as planned. here at the synagogue on, temple emmanuel. we just witnessed a bar mitzvah. members of the congregation are aware of these high concerns. they still want to go to these events. they want to come to the temple and warship, especially under the backdrop of what has happened. they are not going to let fear keep them from living their lives.

not to say that some are a little more concerned. some wondering whether or not they will go out right now. as i mentioned, we were here outside the temple. we spoke to a number of the congregants. take a listen. >> i think that there is a very sad loss of life that is happening, extensively, throughout the middle east. it seems like it is poised to be a seminal event that could escalate quite seriously. i have not felt threatened. i understand from watching the news, looking at my phone, things are being said, and chanted. people have been experiencing negative things. >> yasmin, there e still some rallies scheduled for today. important to know that senior law enforcement has been monitoring a lot of online

atter about retaliatory attacks against israel. there has been nothing spefi or credible. other steps nypd is taking is obviously they will have more visibility. more resources to schools, houses of worship, and the office of counterterrorism and homeland security has also been activated. yasmin? >> george tell us there for us, thank. you israel asking for more hellfire missiles from the united states. how powerful these misses are and what they can do.

welcome back. israel is asking the u.s. to send more hellfire missiles. the u.s. has not approved this request, as of yet. it is coming after defense secretary lloyd austin visited israel to reaffirm israelis. joining us now and we's investigative reporter, dan lewis. dan, before we get to this i wanted you to quickly weigh in on the statement we got from the idf just in the last 30 minutes or so. talking about the readiness for

an attack on gaza by air, by land, and by sea. what more do you know? >> i think that statement is making it really clear what is going to happen, right? there is going to be a massive ground invasion into gaza. it is going to be a large offensive with a lot of firepower. that is the message the israeli military sending very publicly. this request for ammunition from the united states is part of that preparation. they are saying they are prepositioning troops and supplies at key locations to enable the offensive to happen. obviously the order to evacuate that we have been talking about for the past day was clearly aimed at preparing the conditions so they could try to get civilians out of the area. a huge number of civilians so they can go after hamas in gaza. >> talk to me, as, well about the hellfire missiles. the ask from israel, we know

the united states is not yet agreed upon that. what can they do? >> the hellfire missiles, very familiar to all of us if we followed the war against al-qaeda. that is about the u.s. drones would fire, often, at al-qaeda in afghanistan and elsewhere. they are effective because, for the israelis, they will probably use them with their helicopters. it means the helicopter is safe because they can stand from a distance and fired the missile at a target without being hovering right overhead and being vulnerable to being shot down. they have used those in the past in gaza. they are supposed to be very accurate, if the intelligence is accurate. the other thing they are already using and asking more of our precision guided bombs that can be dropped, really, to try to destroy the tunnels underneath that hamas uses to shield its forces, moving rockets, and possibly even hide hostages. the tunnels have really been a

tremendous problem for the israeli military over the years. they will be determined, i think, to try to take as many of those out from the air before the ground forces move in. >> it certainly shows the level to which it seems this for is rising too. i think you said something, dan, really important there. there are soon -- known to be very accurate if, in fact, the intelligence is accurate. as we have seen in previous conflicts in previous wars, when the intelligence is not accurate, the use of these hellfire missiles, innocent civilians do, in fact, lose their lives. dan dilutes for us. thank you, sir. i appreciated. i want to bring in democratic congresswoman from virginia. a -- nato parliamentary assembly. congressman, thank you so much for joining us. good to talk to you. i want to talk about this hold up. you are basically immobilized in the house. no speaker. you're on break this weekend

amidst a war that is being waged between israel and hamas. when will this be rectified? is this really a moment to take a break over the weekend versus having a vote this weekend to make sure that the house actually has some power to do something? >> >> given the gravity of the current situation, especially in the middle east, i think we should've stayed over the weekend. it is only one reason we didn't. that is because jim jordan does not have the votes to be elected speaker of the house. he is working frantically over the phone this weekend to try to correct that. we will see monday or tuesday if he has been able to do that. call me a skeptic. i think he is controversial enough and has alienated enough of his fellow republican colleagues that he is unlikely to get to the magic 217 to be elected speaker. >> i want to talk to you about this.

waiting of these supplemental funding request from the white house. expected to be a bundle that the white house is putting together. bundling together money for taiwan, border security, for ukraine, and israel, as well. we know the continuing resolution was passed. border security, along with ukraine, was stripped from that c arm. is there a possibility, now the money for if you could be tied into this funding quest, that he could actually get passage? >> i think there is a broad middle in the house. well over 200 votes, to support both. we need to support both. there is an existential crisis going on in ukraine and in europe right now. we have to stand shoulder to shoulder with brave ukrainians who are fighting for their lives, their sovereignty, and they're independents. meanwhile, we have the crisis that has broken open in israel. we have to stand by israel and

its right to exist and defend itself. we need to do both. we can do both. i think that there is a broad enough majority in the house to support that. >> has there been any conversations since this conflict began, this war began, between israel and hamas? that this only empowers russian president, vladimir putin. especially when we are talking about funding towards ukraine. the ice now off the ball of ukraine, giving him more freedom to do what he wants to do. >> nothing serves vladimir putin's purpose better than distracting and deflecting from the war in ukraine. and he miscued, any tragedy that he can support or others can support with his blessing around the world serves his purpose. the outbreak of terrorism by hamas in israel proper certainly was welcome in the kremlin.

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nightmare. as they killed or kidnapped everyone they can find. joining me now is one of the survivors from that music festival. nina, thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. how are you doing? >> thank you for having me. it's a difficult question. it's really hard, honestly. >> what is it like to see some of those images that i just showed, reminding you of what happened a week ago? >> i see it in my mind the whole time. it's the same. >> can you tell me what happened? >> of course. we went to the festival, they had fun. we were out dancing. it's 6:30 the music stopped, rockets started covering this guy. we didn't have shelter, we laid on the ground and started

running. everybody was really shocked. we decided it was best for us to get in the car and drive away. everyone was so helpless and scared. we started driving, we went one way but we hit so many terrorist shooting at us, we had to make a very quick u-turn. the other way we had more terrorist shooting at us. we ditch the car. we started running towards the fields. this is what you see on the screen right now. running like crazy. they were everywhere, cars, motorcycles, coming from the air shooting at us from every single direction. m everdid you lose friends? >> yes. we saw so many people falling down. i think everyone who went to

this party lost friends. people we met that and i, we became friends with. videos you have a people you dance with. you know that they are gone now, either kidnapped or dead. >> you talk about having to crouch in the bushes, holding hands with your friends and praying -- >> yes. yeah, after three hours of running we didn't have any more power. we realized we had to hide. they were surrounding us. we got under a little tree cover. we kept hearing the shooting and the rockets above us the whole time. we kept hearing the hamas talking to each other in arabic. hurting our friends. we pray that they would not get to us. we could not help anyone. >> when you realized you had

survived, what went through your mind? >> people were shocked. i was just -- my heart was still full with fear, and love. i am so grateful that i got to hug my family and friends, i am devastated because i know that this is not the face that a lot of my friends had. it is terrible. we can't really be happy, honestly. >> well life ever go back to normal for you? >> we all feel like we were reborn. like, people are asking me, who am i? what am i doing? every time i go to see a shrink

or whatever this past week, i don't know who i am anymore. >> how come? >> because nothing is relevant, i don't know who i am. i can't eat, i can't sleep. i can't stop crying and having panic attacks. i can't stop seeing what i was seeing and hearing what i heard. >> what do you want the world to know? >> that we are fighting for our lives. we are doing our best. there is so much fake news and misinformation. israel is being shown as this cruel, brutal, army. killing innocent people. honestly, it wasn't a war. they just attacked us out of nowhere. we are trying to defend ourselves right now. we are not occupying gaza, we

gave it back years ago. we wanted to welcome peace. we are devastated. we need the world to support us. i can only begin to understand why you feel the way you do. we are thankful that you are able to talk to us today and that you are safe. thank you. >> thank you. all right, 14 americans remain unaccounted for following the attacks in israel. what the white house is doing to help and whether anything else can be done. before your asthma got in the way? get back to the things you love... with fasenra. fasenra is an add-on treatment for eosinophilic asthma. having too many eosinophils, a type of white blood cell, can cause inflammation and asthma symptoms. fasenra is designed to target and remove eosinophils and helps prevent asthma attacks.

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deeply about what is happening, deeply. we have to communicate to the world, this is critical. this is not even human behavior. it's pure barbarism. we are gonna do everything in our power to get them home if we can. >> breaking news that we are following in the israel-hamas war. in just the last hour the idf is saying it is preparing for an operation from the air, the land, in the sea. in gaza as we await the beginning of an expected ground war, the president there in contact with family mem of the 14 unaccounted amics. on the ground, the united states is deploying special operations forces to assist israeli forces in their efforts to find some of those who are still missing. joining us now is robert gates, msnbc political analyst and former white house secretary under the obama menstruation. robert, as, always great to talk about the stuff. although it is not often we get to talk about something like this. this is a rare moment. something that i've been thinking about this week. it is a rare moment for this president. he could, potentially, become a

wartime president. depending on how this goes. the likelihood of that, i believe, is greater than it was when we talked about the beginnings of the russia-ukraine war. the potential for an all out war with iran is not necessarily off the table considering all the players in the situation. do you see this as the moment for this president? what's the importance of that concern and we are just outside of an election year? >> i definitely do see that. i think you have seen it on his face this week. you have heard it in his voice this week. i think he understands, just about more than anybody, what is at stake here. what the u.s. has to do what the u.s. has to project. who would have to help. what i have to do to support. every white house has moments like this. some uc, some new practice for,

some of the scenarios you talk through. can you meet that moment? can he rest that occasion? is that moment too big for you and your leadership? i think the white house and this president understands one of the steak. less though forehand and more so for the world. >> the president has urged the prime minister of israel to practice restraint. to abide by international rules of war. the international laws of war. you heard, i'm sure, the interview i just her and with the survivor of the attack at the music festival. she will be scarred for life. palestinians have to flee their homes who lost multiple family members are scarred for life. they may not live to see tomorrow. how does he derive home to

practice some restraint amongst what is happening inside of israel. the massive loss that they've. had knowing that, if they go so far as to kill hundreds of thousands of palestinians, there could be an about face. on the situation. that would not bode well for the israeli prime minister. >> -- i think the israelis understand this as well the cadence we've heard from the president this week and the messages he's had and the support for israel and also and making sure that innocent lives what is at stake and what is the target. you heard him in that 60 minutes put. if the target is the pure evil, that is not innocent palestinians hoping for a better life in gaza, or the west bank, or wherever. it is going to have the

president out front. you see him so much. you see him doing such a high-profile interview, as was recorded at the end of the week. what will play on sunday. i think there will have to be constant communication with allies throughout the region, as well as publication, not just to the american people but to our allies and others throughout the world. >> robert gibbs, i feel like you and i are gonna talk a lot in the coming weeks as this thing moves forward. i think no one really knows how, in fact, it is going to play out. we certainly hope for a swift and to whatever happens here. thank, you sir. appreciate it for now. so, inrael they are strangers bualso they are brothers andsisters. thousands attending funerals of people they never knew. there is one new sad fact that we've learned about the funerals. we will tell you about that ming out. also,why any attempt to