>> welcome back to our special coverage of the israel-hamas war. i'm jonathan capehart. >> and i'm katie phang. breaking news, three senior israeli military officers telling the new york times the israeli military is preparing to capture gaza city and destroy the current leadership.

saying they're invading the strip soon with tens of thousands of soldiers. >> the u.s. embassy in israel is offering of iq asian of americans and immediate relatives by sea, just cyprus on monday at 8 am local time. it is on a space limited basis. the embassy says chartered flights are also being arranged. >> meanwhile, the rafah crossing point between egypt and gaza remains closed this morning, as egyptian authorities continue their negotiations with israel and the united states over allowing u.s. citizens safe passage into egypt. secretary of state antony blinken will arrive in egypt today, and speak with that country's president later this morning. >> a second u.s. aircraft carrier is headed to the eastern mediterranean to help deter escalation in the region. it joins another carrier strike group that arrives earlier this week. >> and according to the israel defense forces, over 1400

people have been killed in israel since the fighting began, with the gaza health ministry reporting more than three years -- have guy -- joining me now is nbc news foreign correspondent kelly could be, oh live from tel aviv. kelly, good morning. thanks for joining us. what is the latest that you've heard on that imminent ground force offensive into gaza, that the israeli defense forces have announced are going to take place imminently? >> the idea of said this morning that they were still prepping for this next stage. they said that there will be no heads up for the media as to when this was going to begin. at the same time, they also said when the order comes from the government, they will be ready. they said that the design, the aims of the military operation are still being designed as we go forward. but the overall goal is to eliminate hamas all the way to the top. overnight, and also into today,

there have been more airstrikes on gaza, even as people continue to evacuate from northern gaza. more than 100 strikes on targets inside of the gaza strip, according to the idea. the idf also saying that they took out a key hamas commando, a man named boulal cadre, and they say that he was in charge of the naureen coutts last saturday. we are still hearing their warning sirens here, one sounded just a few seconds ago as we were preparing to go on air, and you can hear the intercepts overhead as well. a couple of booms. but nothing striking in the tel aviv area, anyway this morning. but clearly rock and still being fired from gaza, even as the israeli defense forces continue to hit targets there. even as gaza is evacuated, there are also evacuations in

israel in the town of sderot, it's a town to the south, close to the gaza border. a lot of community needs more of actuator from the south in the days after the unofficial terrorist attack by hamas. but sderot was not one of them. the israeli military now starting to bring people out of that town, trying to get a better idea of just how widespread that evacuation is, and the reasons for it. katie, jonathan? >> u.s. embassies offering to evacuate americans by sea on monday. do we know exactly how many people could be evacuated, and what that would look like? >> it's not clear how many people will fit on that ship. the state departmentasaid that this will be a first come first serve basis, in terms of how many people are able to evacuate in that way. this is basically what they told people. they need to be in haifa, which is a city in the north, by 8:00 in the morning.

no pets allowed, you have to show proof of citizenship or a green card, you have to be able to make passage or have a visa, be able to enter into the u.s.. they will then make a 10 to 12-hour boat ride to cyprus, at which point they will be responsible for taking care of themselves. they'll have to arrange their own housing, arrange their own outward travel to the united states to get back where they decide to go. the state department says this isn't the only option for americans. there is no clear number of state department says how many americans are dual citizens in israel and might want to leave. they're making this option available to those americans who do want to go. we know that flights are extremely restricted here, many airlines have canceled flights and have stopped flying here, including the major u.s. airlines. so this is yet another option for americans who want to leave. the state department also says that they will still make

charter flights available on an as the basis, but it's not clear when that might happen. for now, the option for americans here is to go by boat. that's from haifa, a city to the north, and is a 10 to 12-hour boat ride across the mediterranean to cyprus. katie, jonathan,? i >> think it's to you. >> joining me now is nbc news capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles. ryan, thank you for being here. as we well know, the house is paralyzed right now without a prominent speaker, which has implications for aid to israel and to ukraine, quite frankly. the house won't be in session until tomorrow evening. what can we expect from the week ahead, on capitol hill? >> well, jonathan, it's very likely that there's going to be a lot more chaos. republicans really don't have a very clear path forward. they're hoping that their new nominee for speaker of the house, jim jordan, will be able

to collect the 217 votes necessary on the house floor to get elected speaker. but that's no guarantee at this point. right now, he has around 55 members of the u.s. house that have said that they won't vote for him on the floor, so that is a very steep hill for him to climb. jordan, spending the weekend reaching out to some of these holdouts, trying to encourage them to vote for him on the floor, but there's the real possibility that at the beginning of early next week, that jordan forces this vote onto the floor and we could be in another round of speaker votes, after speaker votes. much like we saw in the beginning of the year. this would be an effort by jordan to try to smoke out some of these conservative members of the house, who aren't necessarily comfortable with him as speaker of the house. but, to put them on the record and make it difficult. still, there only needs to be for republicans or five republicans that say that they don't want jim jordan to be the next speaker, and that could derail the whole process. so while there is hope that there could be a speaker in the

near future, there also the possibility that we might have to continue to go through this process over and over again until republicans can find someone. >> and something viewers should know, there are about 34 or 33 calendar days. but when it comes to the house calendar, there are only 12 working days to get all of this done. including a budget, or a new continuing resolution. let's go to the other side of the capitol, and that is the senate. this morning, a bipartisan delegation of senators led by u.s. leader chuck schumer is headed to israel. and they're going there to meet with israel presidents isaac herzog. what can you tell us about that meeting? >> >> it's pretty significant, jonathan. significance both from a symbolic standpoint, and it's also significant in a tangible way. because it demonstrates that there is bipartisan support at least in the senate to try to move some sort of aid package to israel as soon as possible. but the symbolism is important

as well, because chuck schumer is the highest ranking jewish elected official in american history, as the senate majority leader. and schumer was so concerned about the situation that he was actually on a very important delegation meeting in asia, were they had just finished a meeting with president jean ping and he was expected to meet with other leaders in that region, and he cut that visit short in order to get back to the united states to deal with this crisis. he is on this trip with senators rosen, kelly, romney, and cassidy. so it is a bipartisan delegation, they're expected to meet with members of the unity government. and as you mentioned, they're going to have a press conference later today in israel where they're going to discuss what the two sides talked about. but there's no question that schumer's presence there is such a strong signal that there is members of congress, very powerful members of congress, that are prepared to act. of course, that doesn't happen until the speaker of the house is settles. >> nbc news capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles, thank you.

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promised yesterday to expand its aerial attack with an integrated and coordinated attack from the air, sea, and land. one of the key targets is an elaborate tunnel system in gaza city that includes bunkers, command centers, and weapons caches. hamas has been thought to be using the infrastructure in conceal weapons, fighters, and hostes. according to broadly bowman, the foundation for defense of democracie quote, a significant mber of hamas terrorists will likely be able to survive aitrikes by hiding

in the tunnels below gaza. its probably safe to assume that hamas has stop those tunnels with quantities of food, water, weapons, and ammunition. joining me now, senior fellow at the -- for international peace and former state department middle east negotiator, aaron david miller. erin, thank you very much for being with us this morning. how critical of a military objective is it for israel to dismantle hamas's ability to use that elaborate underground tunnel system? >> i think it's critical, because it's likely where hamas leaders are hiding. and, you know, i guess no one needs to be reminded of the densely populated nature of gaza city, 20,000 humans per mile. so the israelis have a big challenge, there are instruments that can be used to get to the tunnels. bunker buster toms, small diameter, bombs the u.s. is

providing conversion kits to allow bombs to be converted to smoke bombs to deal with the infrastructure. -- the random kilometers or miles of tunneling. originally constructed to smuggle things in from egypt. i think this is the big challenge the idf faces, and it does not help matters in the fact that you've got civilians and communities apartment buildings colocated with these tunnel structures. so this is not a matter of days. i suspect it's a matter of weeks. >> erin, i'm just curious. there is common knowledge, widespread knowledge of this tunnel system under gaza. i'm just wondering, does israel have either intelligence or maps of this tunnel system?

do they know exactly where the tunnels are, in a sense, the way new yorkers can go on a subway car and see a subway map? do the israelis, does the idf have a map of those tunnels? >> once they have a cache of documents that somehow through their human sources or their own intelligence agents in gaza have procured these. i suspect the answer is probably no. i think they have a pretty good idea where the tunnels starts and where they end, but the problem is going to be attacking these tunnels also dealing with hamas gunman, who have automatic weapons, rpgs, missiles, which are going to slow them down. so how good their intelligence is, i think one of the reasons or one of the advantages, if there are any advantages of

going into this ground campaign, is once they're on the ground they'll have a better idea of how to proceed, and how to identify these -- >> one of the things i mentioned in the introduction is in these tunnels it's possible that the hostages that were taken last week might be there. the head of israel's inosine made it clear in a press conference yesterday that, quote, israel will not have negotiations with hamas. so what does his comment tell you about how they're approaching the hostage crisis? >> i think this is the coolest thing that the israelis face. considering it's a terrorist rampage, the savagery and the brutality of the deaths of 1300 israelis, a commitment by the government of israel to change the reality in gaza and to somehow find a way, not to avenge those deaths, i think that's the wrong frame, but to basically reestablish and prevent this from happening again. that commitment to the dead has

to be reconciled to israel's long-standing primary mandate to retrieve the living. and by the living, i mean 150 hostages held by hamas. how do you reconcile, jonathan, that cruel dilemma that israel faces, i'm not sure there is a way to reconcile it i think the israelis made a commitment now, there will be no negotiations with hamas, no asymmetrical prisoner exchanges, where the israelis in 2011 -- traded -- taken by hamas in 2006. it took five years to that negotiation. i don't think that's what we're talking about right now. in fact, i may be the advisor, they say that they're not going to wait to negotiate, try to negotiate a return of these hostages before carrying out what is going to be a

fundamentally different campaign in gaza to eradicate hamas's military. and if you believe the israelis basically undermine its capacity, its sovereignty to govern in gaza. >> so then, aaron, on that point than, i'm going to ask you the same question i asked mark palmer alaa polis in the six hour. what next? because if israel's goal is to decapitate the leadership, the political leadership and the military leadership, what comes next in gaza? >> jonathan, i need to be clear about this. not even the famed oracle at delphi could be reading the best of coffee grounds and be able to give you a precise answer to that question. i could sketch out probably a scenario in a galaxy far far

away where the israelis basically create a post hamas reality. remember, this is not like the rotary club. hamas has a membership organization with identity cards, people show up and make contributions. it's a social movement. political, economic, religious movement. it basically -- since the early 80s. so it has deep roots in the community that are. again, a combination of elements. the arab states wake up to their responsibilities, and an arab security force creates a transitional mechanism. for the palestinian authority, weak and dysfunctional as it is, returns to gaza. the saudi -- billions of dollars and gaza, for the first time, maybe it won't be singapore in the mediterranean, but for the 2.3 million people who live there

and are now suffering tragically, the promise of a better life with security and in some measure prosperity, the international community is prepared to stand up and provide the will and resources to create, quote, a new reality there. but we're in a dark time, jonathan, and frankly i don't think anybody can predict what's on the other side. >> we are a long way away from the what next question. aaron david miller, thank you very much for coming to the show this morning. >> thank you, jonathan. >> next, as a ground invasion of gaza seems eminent by israeli forces, here in the united states the house of representatives remains without a leader. the latest on how this affects u.s. support for israel, ahead. stay with us, you're watching msnbc. stay with us, you're watchin msnbc. msnbc. when migraine strikes you're faced with a choice. ride it out with the tradeoffs of treating?

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breaking news coverage of the ongoing israel hamas war. three senior israeli military officers telling the new york times these really military is preparing to capture gaza city, and destroy the current leadership. saying they're invading the strip soon with tens of thousands of soldiers. meanwhile, the u.s. embassy in israel is offering americans and their immediate relatives evacuation by sea. into cyprus on monday morning at 8 am local time. the u.s. says chartered flights are also being arranged, but space is limited. secretary of state anthony blinken will arrive in egypt later this hour and is scheduled to speak with the egyptian president, as negotiations about allowing u.s. citizens to exit gaza through the crossing point continues. as of this morning, that border remains closed. back here in the united states, dysfunction within the republican party may hold up any possibility of providing any substantial aid to the

region. house judiciary chair jim jordan won -- a put that in quotes. his party's nomination on friday, but falls far short of the 217 votes he'd need to win the gavel and the floor vote. the host begins yet another week with no speaker, and america faces another government shutdown just weeks away. joining me now is molly john fast, host of the -- and special correspondent at vanity fair. molly, it's always good to see you and to have you on such, especially. republicans have chosen jim jordan -- you know, the action verbs are escaping me, because choosing him, all of those action verbs are not working here. let's talk about the numbers here. on a secret ballot, because you know we have to do secrecy with republicans. the second secret ballot, he only got 152 votes. 55 of which -- then he got 55 know, but steve scalise actually beat jim jordan before he -- jim thornton, nobody wants him. >> this is like the set

yourself on fire party is now setting itself on fire. right? the burn it all down caucus is now burning themselves down. and what happened here was we had -- scalise had more votes, and somehow jim jordan, and again, there's reporting about this today, which is really interesting. they went in and said you're going to just have to vote. you should just give this to jordan. so scalise bowed out, despite having more votes. and then you had jordan, who has all of these people in the caucus who are never jordan's. and now he's trying to get that, so now he would need to, over this weekend, he would've needed to flip 55 votes. >> which is not going to happen. number one. number two, when you do the floor vote, he is never going to answer the magic number of two 70, which leads me to my next question. which is, the republicans scream up and down no hakeem jeffries. and yet, i actually put this on twitter the other day. hashtag, just the five.

we just need five sane republicans too hot for hakeem jeffries or the country can move on. >> i want to point out also that voting for jim jordan itself is the kind of a vote, but there are 18 republicans in the house who won in biden districts. those are guys like mike waller, those are people that are in the plus three, d plus four, d plus six. those people having to vote for jim jordan, a man who ran against the 2020 election, who believes that the 2020 election was really the -- that trump won the election, to have to vote for that guy is the kind of thing you can run against a candidate for. so i do think it's interesting that i think about nancy pelosi never wanted vulnerable democrats to have to vote in a way that would hurt them in elections. meanwhile, jim jordan is making these people vote for him. in fact, what they're going to do this week is they're going to do open elections for speaker. so these vulnerable, 18 vulnerable republicans will

have to vote for jim jordan, which then you could be used to campaign against them. >> i don't want to import too much credit, or give too much credit to republicans. but there's a little inception thing going on here, because you've got crazy caucus, chaos caucus matt gaetz resulted in the motion to vacate that kevin mccarthy got historically booted. but then jim jordan, to your poin jim jordan is not just a sympathizer. on january 5th, the day before january 6th, he is texting mark meadows, then chief of staff to donald trump, saying here's some advice for a bike -- don't count those votes. just claimed that they're not valid, and basically delay the electoral vote count. jim jordan participated in the plans for this insurrection on january 6th. it's like, you don't -- you're mad at matt gaetz for resulting in this chaos, where there is no leadership in the house for the republicans, but then you're going to allow somebody who's just as bad as matt gaetz, if not worse, to end up being the speaker of the house? make it make sense, because it doesn't. >> it doesn't make sense, and

this is the burn it all down caucus. they want to burn it all down, but they're starting with themselves. i think that jim jordan at best is an insurrection hobbyist. there were all of these text messages, i mean, the man worked really hard to try -- he was involved in a number of different ways. i think they've got themselves in a real pickle. i think the question is, i wonder if they can't do it for a week or two weeks, then maybe there are five republicans who come out and say -- but right now, jim jordan's -- heat really have to, even if he had the votes, he'd then have to be a normal speaker. and he does not seem like a normal speaker. he seems very kind of agitated and angry, and he doesn't have -- the speakership job is raising money and getting votes. he seems uniquely unqualified for that job. >> he doesn't even have a sport coat to do the job. let's think seriously about the part of this. november 17th, that's not even

thanksgiving. that's another potential government shutdown. but then i had this amazing guy on last week, doctor bruce hoffer for the council for relations. the reason why i bring it up is because of this. he talked about how hamas, a terrorist organizations, one of the reasons that he thought the attack happened is because they were opportunists. terrorists are opportunists, and they were praying on the -- benjamin netanyahu and the government of israel. and that's what he said that terrorists to. they look for domestic disturbances in government so they can wreak the most havoc. if we don't have house leadership, if we don't have a house together, like bennie thomas has said last week, what risks do we have, seriously, for our country right now? >> it's also just ridiculous. like, this is pretty easy. electing a speaker, you never saw nancy pelosi lose speakership votes, you never saw her lose rule votes. part of this is that republicans can't do math. right? they keep saying they don't have the numbers, and then they

keep doing it anyway. i think it's bad for democracy, it's bad for republicans, it's even bad for just these americans who have the lowest faith they've ever had in their government. and this is why. >> and we can't get aid packages passed for israel, and for ukraine. let's be clear, not just for israel, but for ukraine. >> the good news is that democrats are not like this. democrats are -- >> it's because democrats are paralyzed right now. it's not like anybody is getting anything done. >> what the house was doing before they got rid of kevin mccarthy was trying to impeach biden, right? and hold hearings against gas stoves, worried about democrats trying to take away our gas stoves. and post offices. so this republican congress has been very dysfunctional. ands i'm going to say, this is a sort of natural progression of this dysfunction. >> not boding well. molly jong-fast, as always,

it's good to see. thank you for being here. >> ahead, breaking down the connection and long-standing ties between iran and hamas. you're watching special coverage of the israel hamas war on msnbc. war on msnbc. , this is american infrastructure, a prime target for cyberattacks. but the same ai-powered security that protects all of google also defends these services for everyone who lives here. ♪ oh... stuffed up again? so congested! you need sinex saline from vicks. just sinex, breathe, ahhhh! what is — wow! sinex. breathe. ahhhhhh! >> as the israel-hamas war

intensifies, there are growing fears that the conflict could expand within the region.

accordingo axios, iran is warning israel that it will intervene if its operation in gaza continues. meanwhile, secretary of state antony blinken told nbc news as lester holt there's, quote, no direct evidence that iran was involved in last weekend's attack, but iran has been one of hamas is key supporters over the years. joining me now, harley lippman, foreign affairs analyst and an expert in middle east affairs. harvey, thank you very much for being here this morning. do you think tehran played a role in hamas's attack last weekend? >> without question. it's just not conceivable that hamas could do something with this amount, to go into war with israel, without their main benefactor knowing. it also, hamas spokes person just recently told the bbc that iran did know about it and gave their blessings to launch this attack. >> so then, how concerned

should israel be at the prospect of iran becoming more involved in this conflict? >> this will be extremely challenging for israel. they could have multi front war's, and their small nation, and even though they pack a big punch in pound for pound, they have among the best military in the world, to have to have forces divided up in two or three places reduces their effectiveness. and israel probably may not be prepared to be able to take on hezbollah, iran, and hamas. so this is a great surprise for israel. even though i think most of the resources will be at a catastrophic price for everyone if they prevail. >> that leads to my next question, which is would iran getting involved guarantee that the united states would get involved directly? >> well, the united states may have to get involved directly. or is always terrible, it has to be avoided at all costs.

israel and the united states, they don't want war. but clearly, if iran is going to enter the fight, america has to be engaged to preserve peace. because this is the equivalent of notti germany. we try appeasement, the biden administration released money to iran, six billion dollars, they eased up on sanctions to iran, they sent all kinds of conciliatory messages to iran. but when someone doesn't care and just wants to destroy you, you have to react and defend yourself. it's extremely tragic and sad, but israel and the united states really have no other option. >> and to be clear, the six billion dollars you mentioned was for humanitarian purposes and it was announced, there was reporting a few days ago that that money continues to be on hold. but mr. lippman, what are the

capabilities? because we've been reporting that a second aircraft air is headed to the eastern mediterranean to join another strike group, american strike group in the area. what are the capabilities of those aircraft carriers, and this is a follow-up to the follow-up about potential direct american involvement? >> it would be better if the aircraft carrier was sent to -- not another one in the eastern mediterranean. because that sends a clear signal to iran. but the aircraft carrier is extremely lethal. we have fighter jets on it, we have the latest technology with these fighter jets and the weaponry, and it would create enormous damage to hush blood and if need be to attack iran enormous damage. so we are really well prepared to be very effective and inflict huge punishment on iran and hezbollah, should they open up another front against israel. >> so, the new york times has a

front page story about the intended goal of the idea, and that is to take out the political and military leadership of hamas. but, what does that look like? how would you defeat an enemy and that is so in meshed in gaza, without essentially destroying all of gaza in the process? >> well, this is where i'm an optimist. as strange as it sounds, given that it's receiving on tragedies, it's because i believe that the gazans are so tired of being bombed and bombed, they want a normal life. they want a better life. and i think that they are fed up with hamas. because hamas is exploiting their own people to be able to gain sympathy for them, so they get money from europe and other nations. think about it. why are there are no bomb shelters in gaza, or tunnels for the people? why didn't hamas put money into that? not at all.

their bombshell tours are only for hamas, their own people, that's who's hiding in these tunnels. because they don't care about them and i think the people in gaza, the palestinians, see this. so my hope is that they work with israel to create some new government. they don't have to like israel, but as long as they can live alongside israel, that would be a better outcome. the united states did this at the end of world war ii. we worked with i didn't our and we worked with many germans who were not not sees. so i am optimistic and hopeful that is real ought to be able to take out hamas the way the united states took out the 90s from germany, and work with normal palestinians and help them build a better society where everyone can live alongside each other. >> last question for you. what is the responsibility, if any, that the other arab states in the region have to help palestinians? and i'm bringing up this

question because there is this ongoing back and forth about egypt closing down its borders. so, folks, -- so palestinians can't evacuate their. >> it's a tragedy. you have these palestinians there, and you have to help them. egypt should open up the border. israel is wanting them and telling them to get out of their homes and apartments. something which not many militaries have ever done in the world. they're doing that and eliminating the benefits of surprise by warning the residents in their homes. but the arab nations ought to bring in the palestinians, and they need to put pressure on hamas to create a safety valve or a safe way for these palestinians to leave. the incredible cruelty of all of this is that hamas is not letting the palestinians leave. which just validates the strategy. they're exploiting their own people, using their own people so that the press and the world

turns against israel, as israel tries to root out hamas. but again, has to go house to house. many civilians will die. but sadly, it's hamas who's responsible for creating the circumstances that will produce so many deaths. >> ali lippman, thank you so much for coming to this program this morning. thank you. >> people of all faiths are coming to pray for peace amidst the israeli hamas war. next, -- joins us to discuss how to get understanding in the midst of this conflict. midst o this conflict. this conflict. sometimes jonah wrestles with falling asleep... ...so he takes zzzquil. the world's #1 sleep aid brand for a better night sleep. so now, he wakes up feeling like himself. the reigning family room middle-weight champion.

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injured. in a devastating in traumatic times like this, faith can take us a long way. rabbi very silver of the congregation -- joins me now. rabbi, it's always an honor to have you on the show. i'm sorry that were not together in person, but when this happens, one of the people i thought would be important to speak with is you, because you always have a very clear messages, like a clarion for those that are tuning in to listen. i want to get your thoughts on how faith can maybe bring us some hope. especially as we are facing such terribly traumatic times. >> thank you so much, katie. you always have guests, and you share your unique perspective on things. i appreciate you having me. you said that faith can take us a long way, and it can. it can also take us the wrong way. when people have faith, and in a bible that's written by god that instructs them to kill,

then you don't have to ask the question how can people do such heinous acts? you already know the answer. because if some people can convince you to believe in absurdity, they can get you to it commit an atrocity. if you believe that the quran, the christian structure, or the jewish holy book the torah was written by god, and you believe that god is instructing you to qanon believers, that is taking you the wrong way. i believe that we should transform spirituality and faith so that it's rational. so we no longer blindly accept the teachings of my own book, or anybody's book, where god is saying to kill the non believer. those words got transferred and transmitted into the hamas charter. it's now a blueprint for murder. a blueprint for genocide, which they call upon the killing of jews. because they are the chosen people. i believe that we need faith. faith in ideals, faith in love, faith in peace. faith in human nature, faith in the ability to resign.

hamas called for a day of rage, i said let's have a day of engage. on that day, when they tried to stare us, when they tried to -- i visited the local mosque, i visited the local church, i said hello to my friends, the mom, the pastor, and i said let's get together. and they said yes, let's counter this blind faith. let's counter this religion that is used to build walls of separation, and let's use it to build bridges of understanding. you know, the hamas children were taught from a very early age, you must kill the jewish people. the jewish people are interlopers. it's not their fault. they were brainwashed, they were hijacked. and we allowed this abuse to go on. i say to everyone, blind faith can no longer be acceptable. because, you might not care what kids are learning.

maybe people in new york didn't care what they were learning in afghanistan. but those children that are being taught to hate in those schools, they came back with a vengeance and people had no idea what they were learning until thousands of people were dead. human beings can no longer afford the luxury of allowing our children to be used as weapons of war. hamas, my friends, is like a cancer today. it's people gone bad, and we take no glee in excise-ing a cancer. sometimes you have to actually take out parts of your own body, you have to take out your lungs, part of your colon, or part of vital organs. but you have to do it in order to save the life of the body. jewish people hate to take lives. we cherish life. hamas is a cult of death. hamas actually means violence in hebrew. but it also means in spanish, -- and so i say

[speaking in a global language] if we are united, hamas will be defeated. it should not be up to israel alone to take out hamas. and i'm so glad to see that president biden, secretary blinken, eric adams, and so many people are coming together to say this is our battle. just like we do -- this is our fight. we must be united to get rid of this toxic cancer. so that the palestinian people can be free. they had an election in 2006, where they threw people off of buildings who disagreed. the palestinians are the biggest victims of hamas. we must unite as a world community, and say never. hamas, never again. that was the slogan of the -- it should be the slogan of terrorism. never again should the world allow our children to be subjected to this vicious indoctrination into hatred. let us approach religion

rationally. let us all unite. people of all faiths, all religions. let's unite around hope and love and peace, and using religion to build bridges of understanding. >> rabbi very silver, as i knew, you would come and you would share words of hope and words of, like i said, a clarion for people to listen into hopefully find that bridge of peace. rabbi very silver, thanks for being here. >> thank you. keep up the good work. thank you for the privilege. >> and keep it right here on msnbc as we continue our special breaking news coverage of the israel hamas war, with a live report at the top of the hour. that's next, stay with us. that's next, stay with us.

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special coverage of the israel-hamas war. and jonathan kaye part. >> i'm katie phang. here are the latest headlines. international spokesperson for the industrial defense forces is denying responsibility for the attack on three convoys of evacuees that killed 70 people. lieutenant cornell told sky news that it appears that hamas had the road booby trapped, and there were no strikes by the idea to the convoy. >> three senior israeli officers are telling the new york times that the israeli military is prepared to capture