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i'm natalie vossoughian. i'm joining you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york city. we want to begin with breaking news on the war between israel and hamas. here is what is new this hour. 160,000 israeli forces are of war against hamas.xt phas new york times reporting that israel's plan is to capture hamas leadership.en destroy secretary of state, anthony blinken, saying that israel's bring gay a took asma.en to then appeal to gaza for voluntary medical team to support hospitals. [sirens] >> also new today, sirens in tel aviv. as you can hear, sending u.s.

senators majority leader schumer and republican leader, mitt romney, and bomb shelters. schumer is saying that came under hamas rocket fire. israel also reporting that they are taking refine the southern city of surat. israeli strikes were unrelenting along the gaza strip. >> this new video showing an explosion join rescues following previous strikes on the jabalia refugee camp. desperate searches for were survivors following a strike on yet another refugee camp. strikes are sending hundreds to hospitals. the world health organization is saying that orders for hospitals to evacuate around gaza are a death sentence for

the sick and for the injured. more new video showing palestinians cooking with firewood as fuel supplies are running low, as well as energy minister saying that -- and turn the water back on for parts of southern gaza following talks between president biden and israeli prime minister, netanyahu. new update on the 70 people killed when three convoys of evacuees in gaza were killed by strikes. and idf spokesman telling our colleagues that sky news, israel, they did not strike the convoy. is it appears that hamas had the road booby trapped. here are the latest casual numbers. 1400 killed, 3500 wounded in israel. 2670 killed, 9000 wounded in gaza. 55 killed, 1200 wounded in the west bank. we have several reporters in place from israel to washington comfort these new developments. we want to go first to nbc's raf sanchez. on the israel gaza border,

where, off in the last hour or so you showed us that incredible cachet of hamas weapons. before we get into, that what can you tell us about the military activity at the border, especially over the last 12 hours or so. and the possibility of this ground invasion into gaza. >> well, yasmin, everything we are seeing here in southern israel indicates that the ground invasion is getting closer and closer. the highways here are absolutely full of israeli military vehicles, heavy trailers, carrying tanks, artillery. there are new are endless column of jeeps, trucks, moving infantry around. israel's defense minister was here in the south meeting with israeli troops earlier as well as the chief of staff ahead of the israeli military. every indication we could see from the conversations they were having was that they felt they were meeting troops very soon. they will be sending into harm's way, inside of gaza.

now the israeli military just wrapped up a briefing a few moments ago. they said, yasmin, 600,000 palestinian civilians from the northern half of gaza have now moved to the south. it is 600,000 out of the 1 million or so civilians who live in that area. a little more than half. that is, as you said, despite the absolute carnage we saw when that convoy was attacked, 70 people killed, many palestinians saying that even if they wanted to move to safety, they are terrified after seeing that scale of bloodshed. it remains unclear who is responsible for that explosion. the israeli military is denying they carried out the strike. hamas is saying that it was an israeli airstrike. we've seen in the past hamas records falling inside the gaza strip for some of its explosives going off. it remains unclear who was

responsible but what is obvious is that this is a perilous, perilous situation for palestinians inside of gaza. to say nothing about the humanitarian disaster that is unfolding in front of their eyes, despite the fact that the water has been put on. yasmin, i want to mention the situation that is going on in the north on israel's border with lebanon. that is heating up right now. earlier today, the powerful lebanese militant group hezbollah filed a missile into northern israel. it killed one civilian, that is the first civilian to be killed on the israeli side of the border. this is ana frequent basis, they're exchanging fire that it appears to be a ground evasion on the south. gaza joined by a very serious confrontation at the north. >> i think the question is

whether or not hezbollah is planning to pounce on what they see is all focus on the border with gaza that the, militants on the border with gaza, i think a lot of folks are wondering if that, in, fact will be in their future. rafah, won't to talk a little about that cachet of weapons that you took in the last hour. one, i like to know if you know the origin of that weapon, if you got a close look at them, and where it seems as if the mosque was getting the majority of their weapons from, and to how often are you seeing rocket fire overhead going in both directions? >> so, just to answer your second question, this rocket fire has decreased remarkably here in southern israel. israeli airstrikes are designed to stop the rocket fire out of gaza, it has been relatively quiet here, this was not the case a couple days ago. in terms of the tempo of israeli airstrikes, they are continuing.

it doesn't seem to be quite as intense as it was before. on those weapons, yasmin, it was really interesting, i asked the israeli military when you look at the stockpile of hamas weapons, does any of it indicate to you direct involvement by iran? they said, no. they said these are the weapons that you would expect hamas to have, it maybe these weapons were paid for by a wrong, but that they're not saying specifically iranian-made weapons inside of the gaza strip. a lot of them, expressly explosives -- >> that's exactly what i'm trying to get. i thank you for that,. rafael brigitte. it want to go now to our reporter in washington. i'm talking specifically about iran. as we often i were just talking about, along with the message that he is sending to israel with their impending ground invasion into gaza. they are going to have to intervene, as he puts it, at the israeli operation in gaza continues.

how our defense officials here are in this country interpreting that? >> well, yasmin, since hamas's attack, it happened in israel just over a week ago, secretary austin echoed the presidents warning when he was in tel aviv just a couple days ago, telling any country or group thinking about wanting this conflict, basically, don't do it. as you mentioned the eisenhower strike is heading towards the eastern mediterranean. the striker pet already been on a pre-schedule deployments and lost that secretary austin publicly announced that they joined the ford carrier strike. having to carrier strike group in the eastern mediterranean not only show solidarity with israel, but it is meant as a show of force to deter iran another proxy group efforts to think twice before trying to escalate further chaos in the region. yasmin. >> thank you. i want to bring in now, talking about u.s. defense officials and general, and this potential

ground invasion, what next steps will happen? what we can expect? but that's going to look like. i want to bring in u.s. lieutenant general to talk more about this, and former deputy commander. steph, thanks for joining us. appreciate it. you just heard emotion talking about the setup right now, right? you've got to carrier strike group's, in the mediterranean, kind of acting more as a deterrent than anything. we are waiting this impending ground invasion. you have israeli forces, idf, on the border. that could happen at any moment now. as you think about this ground invasion, and understand it all kind of the landscape of gaza and general, and many of the underground tunnels, is something that we talked about, a potential, as a potential invasion, potential russian forces. they were moving on the capital city and ukraine. this urban warfare, and who

exactly has the advantage here and understanding what their landscape is. what do you think are the advantages and disadvantages, first for the idf, with essential ground invasion? >> first of all, right off the bat, no matter how you look at this, hamas will have the advantage because they're playing home field advantage. it is their home, they know where the titles are located, they know where the small alleyways are located. they know where the hainan points are located. they know where the eye ease and other things they planted to recap ick on the idf, once they come through and attack the city, to include the extensive tunnel system that is hunter gaza, in terms of the idea of, what they have at their advantage is a highly professionalize force that will

fight. they may be and an away court, but with the firepower that they're going with, 360,000 troops, to bring to bear the problem. as well as the professionalism, and the weapon systems that they are bringing. they will eventually get this under control. it's going to cost a lot of casualties. both in the idf, and hamas. i hate to say this, whenever you are fighting in urban battles, that means civilians are on the battlefield. you're going to have civilian casualties. and this case, i think they're going to be significant. >> there's already a major humanitarian crisis taking place in gaza. i was taking place before this war began. it is taking place now. it is only going to get exasperated, staff. as you think about how the president has urged netanya who to practice restraint to abide by the laws, the international

laws of war. that means, minimize civilian casualties. how confident can we be that that will in fact happen, considering the intelligence failures that we have already seen by israel. >> yeah, what i think that you'll see here is the israeli forces. they will do all they can to get the population and the south. i think that is what's the holdup is. and the ground offensive is right now. as you know, you can always have a round of ricochet's off the building. you can also have a round that follows sort of its target. you can always have secondhand explosions occur when they hit ammunitions. that costs are things that are unforeseen, that call civilian casualties on the battlefield. >> i, mean yeah, sorry to cut you off. ricocheting off of buildings as

one thing, i, mean images right now that we are seeing in gaza's entire buildings be flown to oblivion with whole family is dying in the wake. innocent families and innocent children. . >> absolutely. those are the type of things where the israelis, they have to have restraints. they have to obey the rules of land warfare. and so it is my hope that we don't look at this in a revenge full way. that we stay in line with the laws of war, of land warfare. as they conduct this particular operation. >> talk to me about some of the things that you are most fearful of, and anxious of, thinking about this potential ground invasion. so you put that together with these two carrier strike group, in the united states has said, sitting in the mediterranean sea is really acting as a deterrent, more, for let's say, it iran more than anything.

you have this message coming out of iran, essentially, threatening the israeli government. needing both with hamas leaders and qatar, and hezbollah leader in beirut >> do not continue to do what you're doing in gaza. or we will have to do something about it. >> that is a serious situation as you know. at this point, this is a localized war, it is between it is between hamas and the israelis. what we don't want to happen is further instability and the region. if hezbollah gets into this fight, as you know, they are a proxy of iran, that could trigger, perhaps, the u.s. to get into this fight, and others to get in this fight. then it becomes not a localized fight, but save regionalized fights, and then further to the

region. that is what we don't want. >> lieutenant general, thank you so much, sir. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> my next guest covering the seizure of the gaza strip, and then thisadline, which serves a a statement and brings up an important question. we're going to examine both. back in just 60 seconds. back in just 60 seconds. back in just 60 seconds. this is spring semester at fairfield-suisun unified. they switched to google tools for education because there's never been a reported ransomware attack on a chromebook. now they're focused on learning knowing that their data is secure. ( ♪♪ ) conquer financial reports. conquer 2000-word essays. conquer a 6 course menu. rule over what you write with the smooth writing,

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the hezbollah organization is escalating in the northern border to challenge israeland the war in gaza. it does this with iranian backing and in dangerous 11 of. israel is prepared to fight on two fronts and even more. so far, over 200 wanted hamas members have been arrested in the west bank. i want to bring in a beirut based correspondent covering syria, lebanon, and the gulf in the washington post. her byline is on 14 separate articles. thanks for joining us on this. we appreciate it. first and foremost, if you can, dig in, especially because you have been reporting so extensively on this situation taking place right now both in israel and gaza, digging on the statement that we just got out from the idea. >> about the 600,000? >> yes. >> yeah, we have been seeing massive movement of people trying to move to the south. we're seeing a lot of people

who are trying to shelter in place to the extent that they can a shelter. there's a lot of distrust in the israeli government and a lot of people who believe that if they were to get on the road they would just be struck. we saw an airstrike convoy which was on the way. we were hearing different numbers of casualties. a doctor i spoke to said there were seven casualties brought into the hospital. we are seeing a lot of people move to the south. we are seeing a lot of large numbers stay. the border has not opened. it is starting to seem like the aim is mainly just to have a mass movement toward the south and not necessarily that the border will open anytime soon. >> you are talking specifically about many gazans and palestinians moving to the south in light of these

warnings from israel ahead of the ground invasion. the idf issued the statement when it comes to their focus on, as they are putting it, the abductees and the conduct that they have had with families. they reiterate families of 289 soldiers and 185 abductees have been returned. anything else you are learning on the? >> on the add up to issue, there is not that much information out there. hamas has been very numb about what is happening in regard to the hostages which makes sense. they are trying to hold their cards very close. they have said in the past that some have been moved to gaza. some have been taken into the tunnels that hamas infamously has, these deep tunnels underneath gaza and going to israel. the issue is a big topic. hamas has not even officially given a number of the abductees

because they are holding those cards very close. as a result, we are seeing the mass movement. for the last couple of days, people have received different phone calls. they have to leave immediately. >> i want to read a quote from one of the pieces you wrote a few days ago talking about life inside gaza rig n. you wrote this -- he was on his way to the hospital when an airstrike ripped through his neighborhood, destroying a building and a maet. the 29 year old daughter never made it to work. his wife, also a doctor, was at anotr hospital and survived as did their infant son who was with his grandparents, mily friend told the washington post. one in thefamily had much time for grief. his wife, mother, and brother ack to work. his father led prayers in the yard of the hospital on tuesday. his e wa full of anguish

as he looked down his son's swaddled ina white she. this seems to be a common story now in gaza. >> it is. it sadly has been for a very long time also. i think it is sometimes difficult to lose track of the fact that, even though we are used to seeing large numbers of deaths in gaza, it doesn't reduce the number of human casualties which are actually happening. i spoke to a family friend who said this is his favorite son. that's something that every parent -- maybe they don't want to know what that feels. when you see your offspring dead in front of you, nothing else matters. it has been very, very difficult on gazans, a lot of whom don't support hamas, a lot of whom just want to continue living a life with basic rights and dignity, a lot of these basic dignities are gone. i'm speaking to doctors who say we are treating patients on the

floor of the hospitals because there is no other alternative and no lights most of the time. another family member told one of our reporters on the ground that family members of a family that all dyed said that the mother of the family was found with their eight-month-old on her husband because it had left her body from the sheer force of the strike. no one, no matter on what side they live, should have gone through this, either side. >> he also authored a piece from a few days ago as well talking about the potential of the water conflict. i think that's kind of the question which is emerging now. will this extend beyond israel and hamas? we're already seeing evidence of that happening on the lebanese border. the title of the piece was, u.s. intel deemed wider conflict. any updated intelligence and

sourcing that you have on the story as this is all progressing? >> the leak that we had was earlier this year. it was basing it off of previous actions which they have seen on the border. it still remains very unclear what is going to happen, whether hezbollah and other groups are going to intervene. we have seen, whatever things happen between hamas and israel, whatever attacks happened on gaza, we always see the same patterns. we see syrian factions lobbing it israel. we see palestinian factions in 11 on. we see a tax happening in certain groups. we have seen that repeated. we've seen an escalation on the lebanese border. there was quite a bit of effort. that does not mean that they

will not partake in the fight later. right now, it looks like they have been de-escalating. they have been calling for an armed conflict which is telling for now on hezbollah. all of these assumptions that were made, practicing deterrence about the fact that they really tried to minimize the any escalations, we are seeing that now. >> thank you so much. we appreciate it. stay safe with your reporting. it is just one part of the tricky gaza puzzle that the u.s. is having. a report on that when we come back. ng a report on that when we com back back e, inconvenient, and disruptive to your life. posing a real threat to your comfort and safety. when the power goes out, you have no lights, no refrigeration, no heating or air conditioning. your well or sump pump won't work.

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out of the white house today, the biden administration is struggling to get anyone's u.s. citizens out of gaza before the invasion of the war torn country. and bcc allie raffa is at the white house for us. good to see you. what are you hearing from the administration, the president about some of the setbacks that they are facing right now? >> yeah, yes. national security adviser jake sullivan made the rounds on all of the sunday shows giving an update on u.s. efforts on the ground to not only save and rescue those american hostages in gaza but also more

specifically to open that rafah border crossing into egypt. take a listen to what sullivan had to say. >> so far, we have not been able to get american citizens through the border crossing. i'm not aware of anyone else being able to get out at this time the white cannot fully confirm that because it's a dynamic situation. like i said, we are trying to create the circumstances where american citizens who are in gaza and are looking to leave to get into egypt and ultimately to the united states or elsewhere, that they are able to do so. we are working on that as we speak. >> yes when, officials tell us that there is still no guarantee on when this border is going to open, how long it would stay open for, and whether hamas would play a role in palestinian americans's ability to access that border. sullivan acknowledged on one of these sunday shows that hamas has already tried to prevent the flow of people to that

border over the last few days. the state department is still directing the roughly 500 to 600 palestinian americans to this border to stay around it in case it does open up for a very brief period of time and they want to cross through it into egypt. another complicating factor in this whole situation is egypt's demand for humanitarian aid to go into gaza. secretary of state antony blinken said that was a main focus of his conversations with the egyptian president while he was in cairo today. he says that they both have the u.s. and egypt committed to sending that humanitarian aid. they are working on finding out a solution to the mechanism by which the aid will get into gaza and get into the right hands to the people who need it. the united states, jake sullivan talked about how finding those hostages among those 15 americans still unaccounted for, that this is still the number one priority

of the administration, yasmin. >> allie raffa, thank you. we appreciate it. so many questions remain since the hamas attack. why the bloodshed? why now? what was almost thinking? how long were they training for this? some of the answers we are getting, some we don't know. i'm going to speak with an analyst from a -- from the suifen group coming up next. from the suifen group coming u next next on a hard seltzer budget... wayfair's got just what you need! what... y'all this is nice. salad plates? kelly clarkson? i'm fancy now! i have always wanted statement lighting. get nice things at nice prices at wayfair! ♪ wayfair, you've got just what i need ♪ (sean) i wish for the amazing new iphone 15 pro! (jason) sean! do you mean this one - the one with titanium? switch to verizon, you can trade in any iphone, and get the new iphone 15 pro on them. (vo) it's your last chance to trade in any iphone

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goli, taste your goals. hill, just a short time ago, we learned new information about aid to israel after the fight remains. julie tsirkin has all of the details for us. if you will, walk us through what is happening this hour. >> yeah, yasmin. so, from multiple congressional sources and white house sources, they tell myself, my colleague allie raffa, that congressional leaders are preparing for a supplemental aid package to come from the white house to congress in the latter half of next week. officials to caution that the

timing could shift. no official decision has yet been made. as we are seeing u.s. officials, including senate majority leader chuck schumer, in israel attending meetings with their israeli counterparts, starting to define a scope or the contours of what israel actually needs as it defends itself and prepares to go into a ground invasion in gaza, schumer himself today said they specifically discussed ammunition needs from the israeli officials. they also talked about the humanitarian aid here. this is really important. we don't have details of what the supplemental package could potentially include. schumer was careful to say that they noted in their meetings with israeli officials that humanitarian assistance, the way that israel treats the civilians in gaza, is something that the u.s. government is going to be paying very close attention to. we also reported last week that this package could combine aid for ukraine, aid for israel, aid for taiwan, and border security assistance. some of the parameters are

still being discussed with the top relevant chairs of the committee and senate. comes on the heels of a white house meeting that officials have called with relevant lawmakers to discuss the scope of these plans. all of this comes, of course, against the backdrop of the house not having a speaker. they're functionally ungovernable. we know that a potential house floor vote on the speaker could happen on tuesday at noon. that doesn't mean, however, that jim jordan, the speaker designate that republicans have elected him behind closed doors, does have the 217 votes needed to get the gavel on the floor. regardless, though, the senate led by schumer says they will lead on this issue. that will hopefully, schumer said, put pressure on the house to act quickly and swiftly and elect a speaker to lead them. >> thank, you julie. we appreciate it. we also have new questions today on whether iran played a role in a's attack on the israeli music festival.

the foreign minister praised the incursion as a, quote, historic victory. joining me now is colleen clark. thank you for joining us on this. we appreciate it. i want to read for folks as we talk about some of the intelligence failures here dating back to last saturday, i want to read for them some of what you said in a piece that you recently wrote. you said this -- whether a result of hubris or something more mundane, almost real severely underestimated hamas operational capabilities and intentions. talk to me about what we know about the capabilities of hamas here and the planning that it would have taken to carry out an operation like they did. >> well, their capabilities have improved significantly from even four or five years ago. we see that. it's evident. an operation of this magnitude,

this scale, the scope and intensity is something that would have taken months to plan and would have had oversight by individuals -- potentially lebanese hezbollah and other parts of this terrorist syndicate run by iran. you know, extensive preparation and planning combined with a perfect storm of factors on the israeli side with domestic political dysfunction and the israelis becoming complacent about hamas's capability. israelis were thinking that hamas was content to enjoy economic benefits when they were planning this attack. >> there have been various reports coming out about when they knew it, starting back with iran being directly involved in the planning of this down to running in ways in

which they could actually penetrate and attack and carry of this attack in israel. they were totally caught off guard. they didn't know that was going to happen. as i mentioned earlier, they were in by route with the leader of hezbollah. they met in qatar with the leader of hamas. all of that together, what do you expect is the extent to which iran, the irgc, has been involved in this attack? what are you most worried about if this were to expand beyond the borders of gaza and israel? >> certainly, the iranians fingerprints are all over this in terms of financing, training, equipping, and mentoring hamas. it's one of the where examples that we see of sunni shia cooperation. even if iran were not micromanaging the attack, which i don't believe they were, they essentially give groups like hamas all the tools they need

to conduct these attacks and then leave it up to their proxies to, at a time of their choosing, to launch these attacks. certainly, you can see it over the last several days. the iranians almost are gloating about the quote unquote success of the attack lethality. i think the israelis will retaliate d that retaliation could take several forms. it's likely happening behind the scenes in thecyber realm. it could become more kinetic. >> retaliate against iran is what you are saying? >> correct. it could happen on iranian soil. if that happens, we are talking about a much different situation where you have a lebanese hezbollah potentially jumping into the fray even more forcefully than they have already. all bets are off. we are looking at the potential for a serious regional conflict. the united states has a carrier strike group which i know are on the way. this could get really ugly really quick. >> we've already seen the capacity to which israel can actually strike inside the borders of iran with the killing of iran's top general.

that was a few years ago. if you think about th and the possibilithis thing actually expanding, talk more about how you think israel may be working behind the scenes and if, in fact, the united states could be aware of this as well. >> well, to clarify, there was a u.s. strike and it took place in iraq. the iranian nuclear scientists have been targeted before by the israelis. there have been a number of iranian proxies who have been on the receiving end of the strikes and elsewhere. the israelis have extension will reach throughout the reason. there have been strikes in syria already. if they feel threatened by iranian arms transfers to hezbollah or other proxy groups, they won't hesitate to act. >> what do you make of the threat being made by the foreign minister as well from qatar, i believe it was yesterday, being reported by axios, specifically saying, if

you continue this attack on gaza? >> well, this is typical iranian rhetoric. the denials are typical. the tough talk on the back and is typical. if i were sitting inter on, i would be really worried. the israelis are the preeminent military force in the region. they've shown the ability and willingness to act. as benjamin netanyahu has said, we are only getting started here. gaza is step one. i don't expect the israelis to stop there. they are going to do everything they can to dismantle the hamas infrastructure. that will spread out into other countries including iran. >> i have one less thing. it doesn't seem like israel as much of a plan after dismantling hamas. >> it's a great point. i think the israelis are highly capable from a military perspective. nobody doubts their capabilities there. there has to be a planning for

the political process and what happens next. we're going to keep seeing this six months from now. unless there is a political solution, we are never going to see the end of what has been an off and on insurgency for the past several decades. it flares up and dies back, down flares up again. we're in a particularly hot moment. colin clark for, us thank you. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> coming up next, an american finds himself defending an unlikely place somewhere and something unimaginable just over a week ago. the where and why from the american himself. we will be rip. he american himself wweill be rip (sean) i wish for the amazing new iphone 15 pro! (jason) sean! do you mean this one - the one with titanium? switch to verizon, you can trade in any iphone,

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15 americans are also missing right now. also breaking, israel's finance minister says the government is taking responsibility for the devastating attack by hamas last week which killed hundreds of israeli citizens. the finance minister is a key partner of the prime minister, saying at a news conference today, quote, we have to admit honestly, painfully, and with a bout head that we, need the state leadership and the security establishment, have maintained the security of the citizens. we failed to implement the unwritten contractor, first of its kind between a state and its citizens, a contract that was written in blood and is now stained with blood. i'm joined now by an idea of reservist in ben stationed with israel at a coutts. we are not giving his precise name or location for security reasons. we appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> of course. you are actually from l.a. and you have been living in israel for the past six years or so.

what is your role in the fight right now? >> so, i am a reservist. i was with my host family because all of my family still lives in the states. we were celebrating the final holiday. when i woke up in the morning to the news of rockets and the invasion by hamas into the communities on the gaza border community as well as the other cities, i woke up and open my phone, seeing the terrorists walking around. the closest comparison evil for the videos of i.s.i.s. writing in the back of pickup trucks brandishing their ak-47s and rpgs through our cities. i woke up to these videos and

sites. i helped in my car and drove down and we immediately got to base. i am here in one of the communities along the gaza border. we are protecting the community, allowing one, first, press to come, allowing families who, most of these families, members of their families were butchered on saturday. their family and friends and pets, we are able to make sure that these families, that those families left are able to come back to the communities and get any remaining things that they might want, important things and the remaining members of their family being the pets. today, a group of goats and chickens and guinea pigs and dogs who are collected thanks to our unit being here.

it's clear of any remaining hamas terrorists. >> tell me about what you have heard from some of these families, how they are doing in the wake of this attack, being in the kibbutz, likely losing family members and friends. >> it's really, really hard. it's difficult even put into words some of the experiences that these family members are talking about. they are holding their loved ones and their children and their babies, holding their hands over their mouths so they can't make a noise from the crying to give their location away to the terrorists, shooting at the bomb shelter door. they are using the roof as a location point to then just be able to spray their machine guns and kill anybody who is running out of their house

trying to escape. at the same time, these families are so resilient. some of them have been able to come back just under a week after the terrible attacks took place here. it shows the resilience. i talked to them and a lot of these people are saying, you know, we can't wait to come back and rebuild this community. it is very difficult for me to understand. i have so much respect and so much pride in my country and in being an israeli here at this time, seeing and hearing that these families are so willing to come back to this community after the atrocities took place on saturday. >> just one last question. i'm not sure if you're going to be part of this ground invasion. do you know if you're going to be playing a role in this? >> i am ali a staff sergeant. i do what i am told. it's out of my authority even

if we are going to be doing any sort of ground invasion or not. i have no idea and i can't really speak to that. >> i just wanted to ask what type of mindset -- if you are involved, what kind of mindset would be going into that with? >> i have a mindset, the exact same mindset as everyone else here. we have seen the atrocities and the bloodstains in the children's beds, the rpgs in the backs of peoples cars as they tried to escape, the defenseless civilians butchered. we keep this in our minds. that is to make sure that hamas, never, ever has the ability to carry out this type of attack ever again against israelis, against any issues around the world, and that is our goal. that is the mindset we are going in with, a true family

and community here. none of us want to be here. we all have families here. my girlfriend and my dog, my job, none of us want to be here. we have to be here. we have to do this. my mindset going into this is to take care of business, make sure that hamas can do this again, and get home to my family as soon as possible, hug them, and hopefully never have to be part of this situation ever again. >> thank, you ben. she is their sunshine, their only sunshine, and she is still missing. the uncle of one woman who was abducted talks to me about their hopes and fears coming up next. bout their hopes and fears coming u next next which have become top targets for ransomware attacks. but there's never been a reported ransomware attack on a chromebook. which is why thousands of schools like the fairfield-suisun unified school district switched to google tools for education. so they can focus on teaching

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breaking news out of the white house. moments ago, a senior official responding to the statement made by iran's foreign minister out of qatar, nbc's gabe gutierrez is at the white house

for us. gabe, talk us through this. iran really is the outlier here, how they will get involved, if they will get involved. we've seen the foreign minister making the rounds, making a statement in beirut after meeting with the leader of hezbollah there and meeting with the leader of hamas into tar as well. what are we learning this afternoon coming out of the white house? >> hey there, yasmin. this is a very fine line that need the administration is trying to walk here, not trying to provoke iran but trying to deter iran. that's why the senior white house officials say the biden administration sent the two strike groups to the region. i want to read for you this statement from of the iranian foreign minister a little earlier today. quote, if t znist aggression is not stopped, the hands of all parties in the region will be on the trier. this white house official who i just spoke with said we haven't seen any specific indication that iran is trying to deepen or widen the conflict.

this official made the point that the relationship has been intense now for many years. the administration made it clear that they don't want to see other actors in the region, not just iran but also its proxy, hezbollah, trying to exploit the situation in israel. there are certainly a lot of eyes raising a lot of eyebrows this morning, yasmin. >> i'm curious as to how they are so confident that they don't see evidence or intelligence suggesting that iran is trying to widen the conflict considering -- the full will know this is going to make it worse. the ground invasion is coming. >> the white house has been trying now for several days

since the hamas attack happened a little over a week ago. iran may have greenlit this operation. the white house security council has been steadfast in saying that they don't see direct evidence of iran being specifically involved in the planning of the operation. you do hear white house officials say that they are broadly complicit, that's the word they have used, because iran has funded hamas for so long. certainly, the white house is trying to walk the fine line and try not to make more of these comments from the iranian foreign minister, not to make more of them than they need to, but at the same time, they are watching the situation closely. that's why they have sent more resources to the mediterranean that countries like iran or actors like hezbollah, they are warning them not to get involved as a trump try to

scramble to prevent the conflict from spiralling into a wider conflict across the middle east. >> in moments, new sounds from this crisis which will send a chill down your spine. hi everybody, i'm yasmin the. in our second hour starting right now. i'm joining you here from new york city, our headquarters at msnbc. if you just joining, us welcome. if you're sticking with, us we are thankful for that. we are going to begin with breaking news that we have been following on the israel-hamas war as we keep an eye on developments with a live look at gaza and tel aviv as well, this split screen moment as the threat of an israeli ground incursion is learning. a lot of new things happening this hour. and idf spokesperson says 600,000 people have evacuated to the south gaza, sang israel is making tremendous efforts regarding stes and is prepared to fight on two fronts. an urgt pe