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live pictures right now in tel aviv where any moment we expect to see the president. >> indeed, the president and also the secretary of state tony blinken who has been with the president on this trip. he's actually been criss-crossing the middle east for days now. the president is expected to speak any minute now. when he does, we will bring those words to you. >> he just met with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu this morning. he has been meeting with even the war cabinet there in israel as well as first responders and family members of victims of that horrific attack on october 7th, and those family members also wondering what's happening with members who are still missing. >> the president is now literally in a war zone thrown into fresh turmoil by the deadly blast at a gaza hospital. hundreds reportedly killed. hamas blames israel, israel blames another militant group, islamic jihad. >> protests erupting across the
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middle east, a large crowd of palestinian protesters gathering this morning outside the u.s. embassy in beirut. lebanon. and joining us now is josh lederman in tel aviv. we're monitoring all of these different locations. josh, as we await the president's remarks there in israel, obviously the stakes were already so high for president biden and this visit. how has that hospital blast further complicated or altered those stakes? >> reporter: well, it has completely upended the president's trip, as well as the already very precarious security situation here in the middle east. the president scheduled this trip hoping to come here to israel and then go on to jordan, focused on a few key priorities including dealing with the humanitarian crisis in the gaza strip, trying to get civilians who are trapped there out, and also to make progress on the hostage situation, instead all eyes have really been on how the
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u.s. and israel are responding to this explosion at the hospital and what the u.s. would say about who was behind it as israel and hamas and other groups in the gaza strip continue to trade accusations about who actually struck that hospital. we heard president biden shortly after he landed here in israel say that as far as what he has seen, he believes that it was the other team, referring to palestinian militant groups and not israel that was behind that strike, and then in just the last few minutes, we have heard from our pentagon correspondent, courtney kube that the u.s. now has an independent assessment that says that it was a palestinian, islamic jihad rocket that fell short and struck that hospital. and so we've seen the president, the u.s. clearly siding with the israeli version of events, and that has really been what has overshadowed what had intended to be an effort to make progress
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in calming the situation down, instead since the president has arrived here in israel, the situation has only gotten far more tense, ana. >> and josh, as we await the president -- and he is expected to speak literally any second now, we will of course go to him when he begins to speak -- but josh, it's important to just state how volatile the whole situation is. the fact that things didn't change until the president was literally in the air on air force one when this explosion occurred and just seconds after the explosion occurred, all kinds of attacks and counterattacks were already being thrown out as to who was behind it. >> reporter: yeah, that's right, jose. and the president was in the motorcade heading to joint base andrews to get on air force one when that planned summit he was supposed to attend in jordan was summarily canceled. i've never seen a presidential itinerary being upended
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literally while the president was boarding the plane to head overseas. that is the nature of what we've seen during the course of this trip, and it comes as the entire region is really on high alert at israeli embassies around the region, there are protests, at american embassies around the region there are protests. in lebanon, the u.s. government now urging americans not to travel there, while in the west bank we're starting to see unrest as well. and so a key priority right now not only for the u.s. and its allies is to see whether they can calm tensions, try to get this back to a somewhat stable place where they can begin to then once again make progress on all these other urgent priorities, such as the humanitarian crisis that is still ongoing at this hour in the gaza strip. >> josh, stay with us. i want to bring in raf sanchez now who is joining us in ashdod, israel, as we await the president's remarks as he continues his trip there in israel. a president joining another leader of a country that is at war right now, an unprecedented
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moment in history here, raf. what are you hearing, seeing, what's the reaction or reception of president biden's visit where you are? >> reporter: ana, it's pretty remarkable. we saw president biden go to kyiv, which is a city in a country at war. kyiv nowhere near as close to the front lines as tel aviv is to gaza. it's just about 40 minutes' drive between the two. i'll tell you what we have not seen, we have not seen intense rocket fire from gaza this morning towards tel aviv, which would have the potential to disrupt the president's visit. it could trigger the air raid si sirens, sending the president and his entourage to the bomb shelters. we don't know if that was a deliberate decision by hamas, that they do not want to interfere with the president's trip, or if they simply do not have the capacity to launch rockets at all hours at will. not only are there a lot of israeli aircraft in the air
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above gaza right now suppressing rocket fire, but the united states given that the president is in israel, very, very, very closely monitoring what is going on. so interesting those sirens haven't been going off, when secretary of state blinken was here, he was sent not once but twice to the bomb shelters, at one point literally standing there with prime minister netanyahu and israel's war cabinet. the president's trip so far not interrupted. he's just wrapping up a meeting with survivors and first responders. he's meeting, ana and jose a pretty incredible woman we met earlier -- >> the president of the united states out of tel aviv. >> i come to israel with a single message. you're not alone. you are not alone. as long as the united states stands and we will stand forever, we'll not let you ever be alone. most importantly, the -- i know the recent terrorist assault on the people of this nation has left a deep, deep wound.
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more than 1,300 innocent israelis killed including at least 31 american citizens by the terrorist group hamas. hundreds, hundreds of young people at a music festival, the festival was for peace. for peace. gunned down as they ran for their lives. scores of innocents from infants to elderly grandparents, israelis and americans, taken hostage. children slaughtered, babies slaughtered, entire families massacred. rape, beheadings, bodies burned alive. hamas committed atrocities that recall the worst ravages ofsis unleash, pure unadulterated evil upon the world. there's no rationalizing it, period. the brutality we saw would have cut deep anywhere in the world, but it cuts deeper here in
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israel. october 7th, which was sacred, a sacred jewish holiday became the deadliest day for the jewish people since the holocaust. it has brought to the surface painful memories and scars left by a millennia of anti-semitism and the genocide of the jewish people. the world watched then. it knew, and the world did nothing. we will not stand by and do nothing again, not today. not tomorrow. not ever. to those who are living in limbo learning desperately to learn the fate of a loved one, especially to the families of the hostages, you're not alone. we're working with partners throughout the region pursuing every avenue to bring home those who are being held captive by hamas. i can't speak publicly about all the details, but let me assure you, for me as the american president, there's no higher priority than the release and safe return of all these
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hostages. to those who are grieving a child, a parent, a spouse, a sibling, a friend, i know you feel like there's that black hole in the middle of your chest. you feel like you're being sucked into it. the survivors remorse, the anger, the questions of faith in your soul. staring at that empty chair, the first sabbath without them. they're the everyday things, the small things that you miss the most. the scent when you open the closet door, the morning coffee you shared together. the bend of his smile, the perfect picture of her laugh, the giggle of your little boy, the baby. for those who have lost loved ones, this is what i know. they'll never be truly gone. there's something that's never fully lost, your love for them, and their love for you, and i promise you you'll be walking along some days and say what would she or he want me to do?
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you smile when you pass a place that reminds you of them. that's when you know, when a smile comes to your lip before a tear to your eye. that's when you know you're going to fully make it. that's what will give you the fortitude to find light in the darkest hours, when terrorists believe they could bring down -- bring you down, bend your will, break your resolve, but they never did, and they never will. instead, we saw incredible stories of heroism and courage, israelis taking care of one another. neighbors forming watch groups to are protect their kibbutz. opening their homes to shelter survivors, retired soldiers running into danger once again. civilian medics flying across rescue -- flying rescue missions and off duty medics at the music festival caring for the wounded before becoming a victim themselves.
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volunteers retrieving bodies of the dead so families could bury their loved ones in accordance with jewish tradition. reservists leaving behind their families, their honeymoons, their studies abroad without hesitation, and so much more. the state of israel was born to be a safe place for the jewish people of the world. i've long said if israel didn't exist, we'd have to invent it. and while it may not feel that way today, israel must again be a safe place for the jewish people. i promise you we're going to do everything in our power to make sure that it will be. 75 years ago just 11 minutes after its founding, president harry s. truman and the united states of america became the first nation to recognize israel. we've stood by your side ever since, and we're going to stand by your side now.
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my administration was in close touch with their leadership in the first moments of this attack. and we're going to make sure you have what you need to protect your people, to defend your nation. for decades we've ensured israel's qualitative edge, and later this week i'm going to ask the united states congress for an unprecedented support package for israel's defense. we're going to keep iron dome fully supplied so we can continue standing sentinel over israeli skies, saving israeli lives. we move u.s. military assets to the region including positioning in the u.s.s. ford carrier strike group in the eastern mediterranean with the u.s.s. eisenhower on the way. to deter further aggression and to prevent this conflict from spreading. the world will know that israel is stronger than ever and my message to any state or any other hostile actor, thinking
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about attacking israel remains the same as it was a week ago. don't, don't, don't. since this terrorist attack took place, we've seen it described as israel's 9/11. for a nation the size of israel, it was like 15 9/11s. the scale may be different, but i'm sure those horrors have tapped into some kind of primal feeling in israel, just like it did and felt in the united states. shock, pain, rage, an all-consuming rage. i understand and many americans understand, you can't look at what has happened here to your mothers, your fathers, your grandparents, sons, daughters, children, even babies, and not scream out for justice. justice must be done. but i caution this while you
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feel that rage, don't be consumed by it. after 9/11, we were enraged in the united states. while we sought justice and got justice, we also made mistakes. i'm the first u.s. president to visit israel in time of war. i made wartime decisions. i know the choices are never clear or easy for the leadership. there's always cost, but it requires being deliberate. it requires asking very hard questions. it requires clarity about the objectives and an honest assessment about whether the path you're on will achieve those objectives. the vast majority of palestinians are not hamas. hamas does not represent the palestinian people. hamas uses innocent families in gaza as human shields putting their command centers, their weapons, their communications tunnels in residential areas.
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palestinian people are suffering greatly as well, we mourn the loss of innocent palestinian lives like the entire world. i was outraged and saddened by the enormous loss of life yesterday in a hospital in gaza. based on the information we've seen to date, it appears it's the result of an errant rocket fired by a terrorist group in gaza. the united states unequivocally stands for the protection of civilian life during conflict, and i grieve -- i truly grieve for the families who were killed or wounded by this tragedy, and the people of gaza need food, water, medicine, shelter. today i ask the israeli cabinet who i've met with for some time this morning to agree to the delivery of life saving humanitarian assistance to civilians in gaza based on the understanding that there will be inspections and the aid should got to civilians, not to hamas. it is agreed the humanitarian assistance can begin to move from egypt to gaza.
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but let me be clear, if hamas diverts or steals the assistance, they will have demonstrated once again that they have no concern for the welfare of the palestinian people, and it will end. as a practical matter, it will stop the international community from being able to provide this aid. working in close cooperation with the government of egypt, the united nations and its agencies like the world food program and other partners in the region to get trucks moving across the supports, today i'm also announcing $100 million in new u.s. funding for humanitarian assistance in both gaza and the west bank. this money will support more than 1 million displaced and
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conflict affected palestinians including emergency needs in gaza. you are a jewish state, you are a jewish state, but you're also a democracy, and like the united states, you don't live by the rules of terrorists. you live by the rule of law and when conflicts flare, you live by the law of wars. what sets us apart from the terrorists, is we believe in the fundamental dignity of every human life, israeli, palestinian, arab, jew, muslim, christian, everyone. you can't give up what makes you who you are. if you give that up, then the terrorists win, and we can never let them win. you know, israel's a miracle, a triumph of faith and resolve and resilience over impossible pain and loss. think about october 7th, a jewish holiday where you read about the death of moses, a
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tragic story of a profound loss to an entire nation, a death that could have left helpless, hopelessness in the hearts of an entire nation, but though moses died, his memory, his message, his lessons have lived on for generations of the jewish people as well as many others, and just as the memory of your loved ones will live on as well. after reading the story of moses' death, those who observe the holiday began reading the torah from the very beginning, the story of creation. it reminds us of two things, first, that when we get knocked down, we get back up again, and we begin anew. and second, when we're faced with tragedy and loss, we must go back to the beginning and remember who we are. we're all human beings created in the image of god with dignity, humanity, and purpose. in the darkness to be the light
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unto the world is what we're about. you inspire hope and light for so many around the world. that's what the terrorists seek to destroy. that's what they seek to destroy. but not you, not israel, nations of conscience like the united states and israel are not measured solely by the example of power, but were measured by the power of our example. that's why as hard as it is, we must keep pursuing peace. must keep pursuing a path so that israel and the palestinian people can both live safely in security and dignity and in peace. for me that means a two-state solution. we must keep working for israel's greater integration with its neighbors. these attacks only strengthen my commitment and determination and my will to get that done. i'm here to tell you that terrorists will not win. freedom will win.
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so let me end where i began, israel, you're not alone. united states stands with you. i told this story before and i'll tell it again of my first meeting with an israel prime minister 50 years ago as a young senator. i was sitting -- a guy who later became prime minister sitting next to me, just before the 1973 yom kippur war, and she flipped the maps up and down telling me how bad things were, and how terrible they were, all of a sudden she looked at me. she said, would you like a is -- i looked at her, she got up from her desk and walked out into that hallway, i think it's marble flooring. walked out in the hallway, there were a bunch of photographers standing in front of us. we were standing shoulder to shoulder without her looking at me she said to me knowing i'd hear her, why do you look so
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worried, senator biden? and i said worried, like of course i'm worried, and she looked at me and she didn't look, she said don't worry, senator, we israelis have a secret weapon. we have nowhere else to go. well, today i say to all of israel, the united states isn't going anywhere either. we're going to stand with you. we'll walk beside you in those dark days, and we'll walk beside you in the good days to come, and they will come. as you say in hebrew, which i'm not going to attempt to do because i'm such a terrible linguist, i'll say it in english, the people of israel live. the people of israel live. israel will be safe, secure, jewish and democratic state today, tomorrow, and forever. may god protect all those who work for peace. god save those who are still in
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harm's way. thank you very much. >> u.s. military involvement in this war -- >> mr. president, your team said you have tough questions. >> the president not taking any questions after his extraordinarily passionate defense of israel with so much empathy, clarity, solidarity. it was one of those speeches where it's very clear that there is no light between the united states and israel. >> he said i come here with a single message to israel, you are not alone. >> yeah. >> and he also said to those family members of hostages right now, you are not alone. he wants those folks and the broader region to know that america is standing with the israeli people in this increasingly volatile moment, especially following the attack yesterday in gaza, what was a blast that happened at a
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hospital and the search for facts and truth about where that blast originated. i want to bring in our monica alba who is in washington who covers the white house. and also back with us is raf sanchez from ashdod, israel. let me start with you, there in israel, raf, you were just listening to the president with us. what does this visit mean and this new information? he said the american assessment after looking at the intelligence here is that that rocket, as he called it, an errant rocket, originated in gaza by a militant group there? >> reporter: yeah, ana, all morning we have been talking about this back and forth between the israeli military and the palestinian terrorist group, palestinian islamic jihad about who was responsible for the explosion at the el ak wee hospital in gaza city. the president saying that an american assessment independent of israel is that it was an
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errant palestinian rocket, which caused that explosion. he says they are still seeking more information. but at this point, he says the united states is confirming israel's narrative of what happened here, that this was not an israeli air strike, that it was a palestinian rocket, which misfired and came down in that courtyard where so many families were seeking shelter. i agree with everything jose said earlier and you, ana, the president really making clear that he feels the pain that people in this country are going through right now. he underscored this is the darkest day for the jewish people since the holocaust. he spared no details about the rapes and the beheadings that hamas terrorists perpetrated, but he also added a note of caution for israel, and he said that he understands that this is a country that is consumed by rage right now over the atrocities that were committed, but he urged israel to learn from the example of the united
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states where the same rage was felt after 9/11, and he said the united states made mistakes in that period afterwards. he cautions the israelis that while he fully understands and supports the need to remove the hamas terrorist organization from gaza, that there needs to be hard questions asked about what comes next, who will govern the strip. how can this be done in a way that doesn't just not kill palestinian civilians today but plant the seeds for generations of conflict to come. i thought that was really interesting. he said he will ask the congress for additional aid, especially to replenish israel's iron dome missile defense systems, as we've been reporting, not clear how that's going to get through a congress that doesn't have a speaker right now. he also made a little bit of news saying that as he met with israel's war cabinet, he asked them to agree to allow humanitarian aid, food, medicine, water to flow through gaza, through the rafah
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crossing, flow from egypt through the rafah crossing into gaza. we have talked many times about it looking hopeful that the rafah crossing is going to open to let palestinians out, palestinian americans out to let aid in. the president saying he does now have a commitment from the israelis for that opening to happen for that aid to be delivered, but it is just a fiendishly complicated situation down there and you need agreement from israel from egypt, but also from hamas to make that happen. guys. >> ana, back in washington, d.c., what more can you tell us about the president and other -- and sources that we have, if there is an american independent -- that that rocket came from gaza. >> we understand there is an independent assessment. this is reporting from my colleague courtney kube who covers the pentagon. according to two u.s. senior officials who have come at least to that conclusion right now.
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as we know, this is an incredibly fluid situation that. is why the president has said that his national security team and u.s. officials will continue this investigation to see what else we can learn. we knew even before this trip really started in earnest just how volatile the situation was given that the second component to this trip that was going to take place in jordan was canceled effectively while the president was already on his way to tel aviv. he had expressed his deepest condolences for those who lost their lives in that hospital explosion in gaza but did not assign any kind of responsibility at that point. it wasn't until he did arrive in israel, and when the president was asked what gave him the confidence to be able to say that it wasn't caused by an israeli strike, the president said it was data that he was shown by his own department of defense. so all of this has been happening rapidly just over the course of the last couple of hours, there's still a lot more
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to learn. it's clear that the president here was able to secure at least a couple of assurances on some key points here, and really, it was secretary blinken who laid the groundwork for a lot of this over the last couple of days when it comes to the humanitarian assistance, something the u.s. has been pushing for, but the president, of course, who has dealt with so much personal loss in his own life was there today to offer this solidarity, this compassion, and this empathy to those in israel who have faced such atrocities and horror in the last couple of days, ana and jose. >> all right, monica alba in washington, thank you. raf sanchez in israel for us, thank you, and please stand by as we get new developments, we'll come back. joining us now to discuss all of this is former deputy assistant secretary of state joel rubin, he's also a democratic congressional candidate in maryland, and andrew borine, thanks so much for being with us. joel, to your thoughts after the
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president's remarks? >> president biden, he really spoke to the soul of the jewish people in this speech. he was speaking from a depth of empathy and understanding, understanding jewish history, and getting it directly as to why the israelis feel so deeply concerned and upset right now. i got to say he spoke in english about the jewish people live forever. that's been everywhere in the jewish world since the attacks october 7th. and that's because across the world jews are feeling nervous, scared, worried about the future and the state of israel. this speech went further than anyone could have ever hoped for in really providing assurance to israelis and jews around the world that the united states has israel's back. >> and you know, there is the possibility, the concern that maybe this will be spreading and what has been spreading throughout the region are a series of protests. we have some images just outside
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of -- this is in beirut. outsides u.s. embassy in beirut. this is happening, you know, as we speak. this was just a couple of minutes ago. there has been a back and forth between lebanese protesters and members of the armed forces that have been there to control the crowd, but it is an increasingly dangerous situation going out, right outside the embassy in beirut. so andrew, just wondering this and of course ramallah has also been seeing increased protests. andrew, this hospital blast completely changed the dynamic, including what the president was trying to accomplish on this trip. >> absolutely. and i think it's demonstrative of the fact that this war is going to be fought and won on many fronts, just as the war in ukraine is fought and will be won on many fronts. we have to take into account not only the immediate what we might call kinetic impact of things
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like the death of innocent civilians at that hospital, and as that forensic investigation gets disclosed to the public, there's a battle for perception that has to be taken into account because we're going to see a risk of diaspora violence both directions. you've already seen that there have been lone wolf terror attacks in europe, lone wolf violent attacks in the united states that is anti-semitic violence, it's also antiarab violence. there's a real risk of the immediate war bringing in engagement from other terrorist groups like hezbollah, palestinians, islamic jihad or other iran-backed terrorists. also what we have to think about is the prospect that adversaries of the free world, aversaies of the united states, israel, and even ukraine, like i said, other allies that are in struggles against really hostile authoritarian regimes or terrorists that we have to take into account the fact that the battle for perception takes
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place in cyberspace, and actors far removed from the front line of troops or from places where terrorist attacks are happening can also influence perception, heighten emotion, and, frankly, that is a thing that the whole community of the world and public safety officials worldwide have to take into account right now, especially after the horrific loss of life in the hospital in gaza. >> what we're looking at right now is video from earlier in the west bank near ramallah where people are taking to the streets. you can see they're setting things on fire. this is just an example of some of the emotion that is literally exploding across the region right now, and andrew, the president was quick to give the u.s. assessment in those remarks about what happened at that hospital, and there's a lot of details left to learn, but he did say that the u.s. has assessed it was an errant rocket fired by a terrorist group in
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gaza that caused that blast. do you think that will have any impact as we learn the facts, and how much transparency is needed in order to i guess, you know, put a button on that situation, or is it already too late? >> that is a really excellent point, ana, and i think, again, we have to take into account the perception, especially in a world that is completely connected through the internet in realtime, the truth might not have its pants on before the lie and the misinformation gets around the world, so we're already seeing, like i said, diaspora violence from multiple populations, not just in the middle east where you're showing a tragic demonstration in beirut, where we saw world leaders cancel a meeting with president biden, but also, again, individuals or groups elsewhere in global capitals or urban areas that might be incited to violence by threat
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actors, that's human beings that are on the internet, but here at flash point national security, what we do is we watch them in the dark web. we look for chatter that might be indicative of trying to activate people to commit violent acts. we look for people announcing that they may go commit a violent act in some of these urban areas, and we really have to take into account the fact this conflict in the middle east is not isolated to the middle east, and we have to really i think be thoughtful about how we present and communicate forensic evidence from a war zone, especially in light of the fact that we have seen how impactful propaganda, misinformation, disinformation can be when it targets free world audiences and information moves so freely, which we want to support, but we have to be informed. >> yeah, and you know, thoughtfulness seems to be at a premium in so many different ways, and in so many different contexts. joel, when it comes to, for
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example, focusing on the hostages, 199 plus,hen i comes to the rescuing them, a former u.s. official bn hostages aren't even being all heldy hamas. some are being helam jihad. others are held by quote, random gaza citizen opportunists, what do you think this means? >> reporter: well, the chaos of gaza is showing its full face there, and even with this horrible attack, horrible killing of civilians at the hospital in gaza done by palestinian islamist jihad's rocket misfiring, that's another faction inside gaza. and interestingly, hamas, while governing gaza for a number of years has not had full dominion over the military operations coming out of gaza from these different groups. so the opportunism is high. it makes it even harder to negotiate potentially to have some of these hostages released, and it really just adds another layer of chaos that is
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indicative of this dynamic right now in this war, which is really spiraling in multiple directions as andrew just described. >> joel rubin, and andrew borene, thank you both so much for being with us this morning. >> thank you. >> we'll have more coverage of this war later this hour, but when we're back in 60 seconds, the breaking news at home, the second house vote for speaker less than an hour away. >> has jim jordan made any progress securing votes since his failed first attempt, and if he fails again, what happens? stay with us. happens stay with us okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. yay - woo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. (♪♪)
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we're back with our breaking news out of washington this morning, the house expected to vote again for house speaker next hour. yesterday you'll recall republican jim jordan fell 17 votes short of the 217 he needed to secure the gavel. >> and let's go right to nbc's ali vitali on capitol hill. good morning. what can we expect today?
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>> reporter: it may get worse before it gets better for jim jordan in terms of improving his speaker's tally, jose. according to one of his close allies and the head of the freedom caucus here, scot perry, he just tweeted just so there's no surprises, jordan will likely have fewer votes today than yesterday, perry says, as i expected. but he urges people to stay strong in the fight for his ally jim jordan. now, jim jordan himself is sort of battling against several cross currents here, most of which are born of the fatigue of this party not having a leader, and this congress not having a speaker. people are starting to get frustrated. that's certainly nothing new, but there is some kind of a new push potentially between democrats and from republicans to empower the current temporary speaker patrick mchenry. now, it's a lot that's unprecedented here, but we have had speaker pro tems elevated in their powers in the past. in the past, it's been because some speakers say they're a bit tired and they need a vacation.
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in this case, of course, it's born out of much more dire needs. what actually happened is we'll go into this vote at 11:00. we will see what happened yesterday play out again today, which is they will open the floor at 11:00. they will do the prayer. they will do the pledge. they will do a quorum call to get a sense of who's actually in the chambers. jordan's goal is still to hit 217 votes if he wants to be speaker, but if that fails, then we could see someone try to push for this more consensusy candidate of mchenry. that's not for certain yet the, but it could be one of the things we see today if jordan falls short. >> we will continue our conversation. thanks for being with us. back to our breaking news now in the middle east. we're going to turn to the west bank where tensions are boiling over this morning. protests turning violent. our richard engel is there in ramallah in the west bank. richard, what's happening? >> reporter: so there have been some clashes here in the west bank. they've been relatively small, not very large numbers, but this
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is just one of many places where palestinians, arabs, muslims have come out to express their outrage after an explosion at a hospital inside gaza city last night, in which palestinian officials now say 470 people were killed. there are very disputed circumstances of what happened at that hospital, according to palestinians, according to hamas, according to medical officials, there was an israeli air strike on the hospital, and that is what many people here believe that people were sheltering in the hospital, thousands of them, when suddenly this air strike came in and killed people who were packed together trying to find safety. the israeli military, and according to president biden, the u.s. military has veriied that it was not an israeli air strike that killed those hundreds of people, that it was, in fact, a palestinian rocket that misfired, a rocket fired by a group called palestinian
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islamic jihad, which is arrival to hamas, but also operates in the gaza strip that the rocket went up, that something must have happened to it, it got damaged, and then came crashing down right on top of these people, and israel also -- it released video of what it claims is that rocket and also released some -- it also says it has audio intercepts of the -- of militants from hamas discussing the incident and confirming that they didn't fire it and that they believed it was fired by another group, this other group, palestinian, islamic jihad. so we're seeing anger nonetheless, despite the israeli denial and despite the evidence that it has presented evidence that the u.s. finds convincing, anger across the arab world. here like i said, relatively small clashes, but in beirut, we're seeing a much more volatile situation where people are gathered near the u.s.
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embassy. lebanese security forces brought in to try and disperse them. there have been clashes in other cities across the region, so we're seeing a moment of rage, and whenever you have rage from an incident like this, whoever was responsible, there is the danger that it could just encourage hamas. that it could encourage iran. it could encourage hezbollah to continue their -- continue their strikes against israel with the hope that it will gain their popularity and inflame the streets. >> so richard, you've been there for hours, and i'm just wondering if you could continue to paint a picture of what you have been seeing, what you have been witnessing, and what you are witnessing right now. those fires that are behind you, are they in a contained like thing? what are you seeing? >> so the way it works here, and it often plays out like this in the city of ramallah and in other parts of the west bank,
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you have palestinian young people covering their faces because they don't want the israelis to recognize them. in some cases they don't want their parents to recognize them. we had a young boy come up and say please don't shoot me, film me, because i don't want my mom to know that i'm here. so these are predominantly young, some quite young, they're coming out. they're using slingshots, and if you see on the hill top there, there's a line of concrete. there are israeli soldiers -- i don't know if you have enough zoom there -- but you can see the israeli troops sort of peeking their heads over. and then around this corner, there are israeli jeeps, and we've pulled back because those israeli soldiers in the jeep have been firing towards the protesters in the middle of the road, and we've seen three people carried away in ambulances. it seemed to be that they were hit by rubber coated bullets that can cause a lot of damage. they can kill you if they hit you in the head. the people we saw seemed to be mostly injured in the lower limbs, in the legs. so this is an expression of
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anger here in the west bank. this is how palestinians express their anger by throwing stones primarily. it's almost a symbol of the palestinian resistance movement and goes back to the intifada. hamas launches rockets, hamas ling and massacre spree and took hostages and now we're seeing anger being expressed in other ways in the arab world like those protests in beirut. >> richard, your thoughts on how quickly the disinformation and misinformation spread right after that rocket hit the parking lot right outside the hospital in gaza. it was instantaneous almost, the misinformation and disinformation. >> reporter: well, it may be misinformation or disinformation from hamas, but witnesses as well who believe that it was an israeli air strike because they saw something fall from the sky.
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they are in gaza city. they see dead bodies all around them, maybe they're injured t is not an impossible assumption to assume it came from israel since israel is carrying out air strikes throughout the gaza strip. even the israeli military said that it investigated to see if maybe it was one of its air strikes that it was an errant fire. some of it might be disinformation if hamas does, in fact, know that it was an errant fire by a different group, then it's clearly disinformation. the other campaign is just people who are in gaza under attack and believed that the israelis attacked them. >> richard engel, we know that you are sorting it all out for us. thank you for being there in person. obviously we want you to stay safe and our crew. thanks for continuing your courageous reporting. let's get to the facts on this because this is such a huge issue right now. stephanie gosk is here with us. you've been kind of
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collaborating with our teams to make sure we have what we know, and there's some evidence that has been revealed now related to this hospital attack or hospital blast, it wasn't even maybe a targeted attack, right? >> look, it's really important right away to say that we are not in gaza. nbc news is not in gaza, other media is not in gaza. we are prevented from going into gaza to be able to look at some of these allegations and confirm them with our own eyes. but we are being told a multitude of things right now from various sources. the department of defense according to two senior officials says an independent assess shows that it was actually an islamic jihad, that's a palestinian militant group, errant rocket or a rocket that fell short that was supposed to go to israel and instead landed not on the hospital but in a parking lot. and that you can tell by the type of damage that it was that
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rocket. now, that dovetails with what the idf has been saying this morning. in a very lengthy press conference, conducted in english laying out their argument. part of it were images that they showed, including images of that parking lot, and they say look at the damage. if it had been an israeli missile, it would have created peripheral damage in the buildings around that parking lot, which they say you don't see. on top of it, they say it would have been an enormous crater, anywhere according to them from 20 feet to 60 feet in diameter, and that's not there. having said that, some of the images that we have seen show that there i some kind of crater there. finally -- and thi goes back to what richard was saying earlier -- the israeli government says that they have audio evidence of hamas communication soon afterwards saying that they knew that it was an islamic jihad rocket, and that what they did after that
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was launch a kind of global media blitz to enrage people and tell them that it was the israelis that did that. we saw the product of that rage certainly in streets and capitals around the middle east. >> and so it's interesting because there's so many questions, right, and i think the most important thing to underline is that we can't go. we're not allowed in there to see with our own eyes and determine it. >> and one of the things too is that the israelis say that hamas and inside gaza they are inflating the number of casualties. we have no sense of whether or not that's the case. that is exactly the kind of information if you were on the ground you might be able to gather. >> and so that's why we're also being very careful to put a number on how many people, we see the videos and they're just heart breaking. too many innocent lives lost. stephanie gosk, thanks so much. >> more after the break on the humanitarian crisis in gaza. >> stay there. humanitarian crisis in gaza. >> stay there. is overwhelming. but i never just found my way; i made it. and did all i could to prevent recurrence.
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>> i mean, it is a very heart breaking moment right now to be honest. i've been emotional the whole day. and i appeal for everyone to cover the issue also with compassion to the palestinians in gaza right now who just have been through hell, you know? they have no food, no water, no medical care, no -- no electricity. the doctors are appealing for electricity and fuel just to care for the injured. the stories of women, usually what happens in war, particularly in gaza, is how do we get food to the kids, how do we get basic education going to the kids, just to distract the kids. right now even that is impossible in gaza. as you hear, there are lines and lines to get food, to get water, to let alone distract the kids. there are reports kids are crying nonstop, nonstop, because they're scared and they don't know what to do. so what we need right now is compassion in my opinion and we need the courage to be honest, not to put fuel on more war and this eye to eye, but we need to have the courage to create
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dialogue and understand what is the root cause of this issue and how do we get to solving it. and in my opinion, it is not about hamas, hamas, they are terrorist groups, but it is about the fundamental issues of what is happening to the palestinians and why this is happening and continues to happen for 75 years. i want to bring -- take the opportunity to bring the stories of two fathers, israeli father and palestinian father. the israeli father, whose daughter was killed, 13 years old, that child was killed, and he was a military man and he also called the palestinians animals as a lot of israeli soldiers are now calling them animals. and he said, i wanted to kill them all when my daughter -- >> the terrorists -- >> i'm talking about the israeli father who -- >> no, i'm saying -- >> and he decided, he said, instead of going and killing right now, let me take a breath and to understand why they hate us and he took a year to have
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dialogue, just understand what is happening to the palestinians. came out of that saying i understand, we are treating them like animals, let us actually heal the situation. and an organization with the palestinian father who san israeli soldier shot his 9-year-old daughter into the head for violating a curfew, 9-year-old child, and all the militias in palestinian territories, you have to take revenge, you have to do -- and he again, said, i will not do that because if i do that, i will perpetuate the violence and the killing and he found the israeli soldier and said to him, what you did is a crime to kill a child. the day you can actually understand that, come to me, i am her father, i will forgive you. now, that story of these two fathers, right, created a bereaved parents organization who are advocating for dialogue and reconciliation. we need to hear them. they are banned in israeli schools, these two fathers, this effort. we need to hear them today, not
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hear those who are saying let's put more missiles and more fire and more fuel and more -- because we need to address the fundamental root cause of this. and solve it. >> and you talk about who is being impacted now in gaza, and all the children who are there. we reported 40% or so of the population, the 2 million plus people who live there are children who are now trapped and without water, without food, without electricity, we know the doctors working to help them are without medical supplies. i'm not sure if you had a chance to hear what president biden said in his remarks in israel today, but he mentioned the humanitarian aid and he mentioned the u.s. committing an additional $100 million in humanitarian efforts to help those palestinian people who are also innocent victims in all of this. do you have hope that his visit will in some way get the ball rolling, to get that aid in or are you skeptical given what we
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have seen in the last ten plus days? >> i ask for president biden to have more courage, to be honest, to solve this issue rather than perpetuate more violence and more war. i appreciate the humanitarian tone he's trying to open. i don't have hope. i need president biden to have more courage to stop the fighting, not to perpetuate it more and to have compassion for both sides. and to force the leaders on both sides to address not hamas leaders,ike hamas, they're a terrorist organization, oppressive toward women and children. before hamas, in the '60s, there were the -- in the '70s, there were the socialists. in the '80s, there were nationalists. and today there are islamists and tomorrow there will be somebody else until the fundamentals that palestinians not only in gaza, but in the west bank, in the occupied territory, are treated not like animals, and this is israeli officials are saying that, but
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treated like human beings with dignity and freedom and this can be solved. >> the division, the separation between these groups, the the p important to always remember. although hamas is in control today of that area. and how do you react to a massacre of the 7th of october is a question that unfortunately the innocent are the ones that many times -- >> i would react, a, by giving space for those advocating for dialogue and for humanitarian -- >> but a lot of people who were massacred were for dialogue. a lot of the people massacred in the kibbutz were people who believed in that. >> 100%. there were people on both sides. >> absolutely. >> advocating for that and we need to hear them and we need to treat everyone with that dignity and respect. >> thank you so much. >> pleasure. >> thank you for offering your insights. in our next hour, we have more breaking news from capitol hill.
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