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machines. so the great warning from our medical coordinator, who just updated us is that people will die in the coming hours because of that lack of electricity and the lack of the life sustaining equipment. there's also this huge question of the water, which is making people sick. so any number of things are complicaing the meager and insufficient efforts being made by health professionals who find themselves volunteering here and there where they can where it's functioning but always knowing there are repeated warnings that the israeli officials are sending. the authorities saying this hospital, clear it out, evacuate immediately because there's a possibility of a strike, and sometimes that's not possible because people are not mobile. it's impossible for somebody who has mobility issues, elderly, a newborn to be able to evacuate as quickly as is being often requested. so we're really worried that the situation is catastrophic, and
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it only gets worse hour-by-hour. >> thank you very much, avril benoit of doctors without borders, and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." "chris jansing reports" starts right now. ♪♪ >> good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city, and we are following three big breaking news stories with far-reaching implications. the humanitarian catastrophe in gaza is spiraling deeper into devastation, desperate civilians clinging to hope because increasingly that's all they have left. with food, water, and medical supplies almost gone, packed trucks and 60 tons of aid are heartbreakingly close. just on the other side of the egyptian border, so why isn't it getting through? and the house is considering a new plan to break the deadlock on capitol hill that would let patrick mchenry keep the
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speaker's gavel. we'll get you caught up on all the head spinning developments. jim jordan out but only for now, possibly, and mchenry potentially in. how it might all take republicans and democrats to get it done. plus, that stunner in georgia where ex-trump lawyer sidney powell pleads guilty to criminal charges of election interference one day before her trial was set to get started. and that is where we begin. the question now is what will sidney powell say atal? who will she implicate in that sweeping election case against former president donald trump and his 18 co-defendants. today powell, again, trump's former attorney pleaded guilty as part of a deal with prosecutors. >> how do you plead to the six counts of conspiracy to commit intentional interference with performance of election dutys? >> guilty. >> do you understand that you may have a limited right to appeal, which i've gone over
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with you? >> yes. >> joining me now, nbc's ken dilanian, nbc's blayne alexander, and former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst, carol lam. thanks for all of you being here. ken, what more do we know about this deal? >> as you heard there, chris, she pled guilty to six misdemeanor counts, much reduced from the felony racketeering charges that she was facing and the sentence that's called for here in this plea agreement is six years of probation, a $6,000 fine, restitution of $2,700, and a letter of apology to the citizens of georgia and most importantly, that she's agreeing to testify truthfully in any of these trials in which she's required to testify, and of course that could spell real trouble for former president donald trump. she was in the room when they discussed making allegations of election fraud, and the implications are not just this georgia case, but they're implications for the jack smith federal election interference case because what she's doing by
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pleading guilty is implicating herself in election fraud conspiracy. she is an unindicted co-conspirator in the federal case, and there's every reason to think once she's cut a deal in this case, it makes sense for her to cut a deal with jack smith in the federal case, chris. >> so carol, sidney powell was the face of denialism on tv. she was, as we just heard from ken in many ways at the center of this case. so what must she be willing to say, who must she be willing to testify against for prosecutors to give her a deal that avoids prison. is it reasonable to assume she knows a lot about a lot of other people? >> it is reasonable to assume that, chris, but that's the big question here because the georgia indictment really talked about sidney powell's involvement in the voting machine scandal in coffee county. it was in the big scheme of things, fairly limited, and that's true of jack smith's case in washington, d.c., as well. although sidney powell had
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involvement in the much larger picture, there really wasn't that much in either indictment about those actual meetings. and there's a reason for that. that's because the attorney/client privilege is involved in all of this. so what remains to be seen here, what we're going to have to find out as time goes by is whether sidney powell has really, as we would say seen the light and whether she's really changed over her whole affect and view of things about the larger scheme and her role in it or whether she's going to be splitting hairs and sort of saying, well, yes, i did these things, but i can't talk about these other things, and whether she's going to throw hurdles up that prosecutors are going to have to get over in order to get testimony from her about her meetings with donald trump because it's important to point out that the attorney/client privilege does not belong to the attorney. it belongs to the client, and what that means is unless a judge finds that fraud or crime
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was actually involved, then it is the client who gets to waive the attorney/client privilege, not the lawyer. >> so let me make sure i understand for folks who aren't lawyers here. a deal was made. a deal was made that she was going to proffer certain information, right, potentially against certain people if she would somehow back off of that, not be as clear as she was when they were talking about potentially making a deal, they could pull that deal. so in other words, how much to the letter is she obligated to the deal that was made? >> well, that really depends on the specifics of what she's negotiated with the district attornfficin georgia. if they say you have to testify about evething we ask you about, she might say yes, but can only say yes to the extent the law permits her to talk about certain things, and there is that inconvenient attorney/client privilege in there that only a court can overcome, so she may be working with prosecutors to say, yes,
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this was a crime, and i'll tell a judge that this was a crime, but she may not be, and i think that's what remains to be seen. but ken is absolutely right with respect to her exposure on the federal side. she must be, i can't believe she's not talking to federal prosecutors right now because this is what defense attorneys are very, very concerned about. they don't to want plead their client guilty in one court and have them continue to be exposed to criminal charges in another court. so i think that's probably what's going on here. >> so powell was supposed to go to trial tomorrow and the chesebro case, do we know how this could impact that trial? >> reporter: chris, we know that tomorrow is going to move forward as planned. those 450 potential jurors are going to file into the fulton county courthouse and the jury selection process is going to get underway starting tomorrow. except we're just now going to
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have one person at the defendant's table instead of two. the d.a.'s office confirmed to me everything is still all systems go when it comes to the chesebro trial because as of right now he has not agreed with a plea deal. when i spoke with his attorney scott grubman a couple of weeks ago he told me at the time that nothing had been presented to them worth taking. now, certainly rather cagey as to whether or not they'd been presented at a d.c., but nothing that piqued their interest enough to take a deal. when we look at that, we do know that trial is still going to move forward. that jury selection is still going to move forward at this moment. when i reached out to chesebro's attorney, though, he told me that, yeah, this did catch him by surprise. he needed time to process this news and really didn't have much comment beyond that. as far as that trial goes, it's going to still be going on track. what's interesting here, chris, is that we've already seen the state's witness list as to who they plan to call in that trial.
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it will certainly be interesting to see whether or not sidney powell's name gets added to that list as a potential witness. >> that's going to be fascinating. carol, i'm wondering as we look at the list if this -- you know, we alr know that two people have decided that t gng to plead guilty, and there you see them there. would you expect more or -- and this isething that you and i have talked about in the past, there is a point at which prosecutors presumably don't need your testimony anymore, right? so would you expect this to be the first of maybe several more? is it impossible to say? >> i think there's a good possibility that sidney powell does not testify in this trial, and here's why. in ken chesebro's trial. the reason is they have been saying all along they had a motion to sever their trial saying we don't know each other. we have no idea what the other person did with respect to this conspiracy. now, the judge under the law i think properly rejected that argument because it was one large conspiracy, and the
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conspirators don't have to know each other or what they were doing, but from fani willis's point of view, does she really want to put on witnesses about events that permit the defendant to get up and say we have no idea what she's talking about. we had nothing to do with that. she doesn't have to prove up those particular allegations in ken chesebro's trial if she doesn't want to, and that raises this complication because the state cases are going to take a long time, jury selection may take months in ken chesebro's trial. we may not ever get to hear sidney powell's testimony about her involvement before jack smith has to go to trial. so there are all sorts of ways this could play out in the future. we're just going to have to see. >> carol lam, ken dilanian, blayne alexander, thank you all very much. up next, humanitarian aid is piling up on egypt's side of the rafah border crossing. what's being done to get it in
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everything is running out in gaza, food, water, fuel, medical supplies. you can see the desperation captured in these powerful images that are coming out of the gaza strip right now. for days badly needed aid has been stuck in egypt, but president biden announced on his flight home from israel that egypt has now agreed to let some supplies through a key border crossing. >> here's the deal, up to 20 trucks. this has been a very blunt negotiation that i've had, and so want to get as many of the trucks out as possible. >> and while that is definitely a start, the u.n. aid chief says the scale of the crisis in gaza is so great, they really need
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100 humanitarian aid trucks a day, so right now that total that the president just mentioned would only cover a fifth of the single day's needs. we'll hear more from the president tonight when he addresses the nation and the world about the need to get aid to both israel and ukraine, to push for opening the border for aid and keep the conflict from spreading, uk prime minister rishi sunak is the latest world leader to touch down in israel. and more pro-palestinian protests sweeping the globe overnight from the middle east to north africa. today new strikes in gaza are creating more heartbreaking images of catastrophe, like children being pulled from the rubble. as for the hostages also trapped in gaza, the idf now says 203 people are being held captive in the strip, even as more bodies are being recovered. and abby aun who was on the program yesterday, talking so lovingly about five family
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members being taken hostage, have now learned her they have found dead. here is part of the interview that will air tonight on "nightly news kwtsz. >> so your hope continues. >> yes, i think i want people to imagine what it would be like for someone from the military to come to your house and tell you that your daughter and mother were murdered by hamas. i don't know how this week gets worse, but it got worse. the nightmare got worse. now we have to grieve and fight for the three members of our family and the more than 190 other hostages to be released. we don't want any other family to have their hearts shattered the way that ours are. >> i want to bring in nbc's raf sanchez in ashdod, israel. the horrors just continue for so
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many israelis and people are waiting at the border suffering. do we know how long it could take for an aid convoy to make its way from egypt into gaza? >> chris, the white house is saying it hopes that a convoy will be in gaza over the next day or so, after that agreement secured by president biden between the israelis and the egyptians to open the rafah crossing. the hope also is that palestinian americans and others may be able to leave gaza to head into the relative safety of egypt, but chris, we have been here before where american optimism about getting the rafah crossing open has run headlong into the fiendishly complicated reality on the ground where you need buy-in from not just israel, not just egypt, but also from hamas. the white house is saying it is demanding that the aid which crosses over from egypt go to palestinian civilians and not be used to support hamas, but the reality is, chris, there's no real mechanism on the ground in gaza to make sure that that
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happens. >> and raf, the idf now says 203 people are being held captive in gaza, what more do we know about that? >> reporter: well, chris, we have been speaking to the families of these hostages all week, and their stories are just unbelievable. we met a woman earlier today. four members of her extended family are being held hostage in gaza. she believe believes that includes her little cousin ohad, he's 8 years old. he's going to turn 9 on monday. she told us a little bit about him. take a listen. >> ohad is only a child. he wears glasses. he cannot manage without his glasses, and we don't know if he is with his glasses or not. this is something that weighs a lot on his father that he always talks about what about ohad's
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glasses. i hope that they let him keep it. >> reporter: and chris, with all the horror we have seen, all the horror we have heard over the last two weeks, there's something about that that really jumped out at me, that there is a little boy in gaza tonight who's afraid, who doesn't have his glasses who may not be able to see. he may not understand what's going on around him. osnat told us time is running out for her family, for the other hostages that every single back channel negotiation, every line of dialogue needs to be open to get these people out because time is running out for them, chris. >> that beautiful little boy is not the only one who doesn't understand, that is for sure. we hope he's okay and we hear something soon. raf sanchez, thank you for bringing that interview to us. thank you. just two hours ago the state department sent out a worldwide warning to americans urging caution because of the risk of terrorist attacks.
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demonstrations or violent actions against u.s. citizens or interest is the concern here and that alert comes as we're witnessing sweeping protests spurred by the deadly hospital explosion in gaza city where the palestinian health ministry now puts the death toll at 3,785. in germany's capital, authorities arrested 174 people overnight saying 65 officers have been injured. hours before those protests, someone attacked a berlin synagogue with molotov cocktails. >> we feel a little bit shocked, i've lived in this area since 2002. all our neighbors, we feel very -- we felt still today very safe here. >> we have seen the biggest crowds and the heaviest police clashes across the middle east. images of protesters throwing rocks and authorities using tear gas, flash bangs and water cannons, including at this massive demonstration outside the israeli embassy in amman,
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jordan, that took place just hours ago. nbc's matt bradley is in lebanon for us. talk about the protests you have seen in the last day and what the feeling on the ground there is. >> reporter: yeah, chris, while we were at the embassy in beirut where there were violent protests -- and this was broadcast all around -- violent protests where protesters were trying to break into it looked like the u.s. embassy and police and the military frustrated them. we were there just at the end, you could still smell the tear gas in the air. the interesting thing, we were at a hezbollah-led protest earlier yesterday, and that's where we saw what looked like thousands of people protesting against the united states and israel. again, these were people who saw the united states and israel as the same. they spoke about them in the same terms with the same condemnation. biden and benjamin netanyahu, the israeli prime minister used in the same breath with the same disparaging terms, but you know, we see these images of rage throughout the arab and muslim
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world. i was speaking with some people and they were describing how this isn't necessarily just about this hospital explosion. of course the circumstances around that now very much disputed, but they said, this is not just about that. this is about outrage that has been going on for generations at the hands of israel and, again, the united states. i spoke with one woman, and here's what she told me. >> the israelis have left us as arab people no other chance or no other choice but to resist and resistance means that you have to resist with whatever means you've got including armed resistance. >> reporter: and again, this woman not a palestinian woman, she's lebanese. she's an adherent or a follower of hezbollah, which is not a palestinian group. but like hamas, it's backed by iran. so the question is for everyone in the region, not just those here in lebanon, is will this depth of anger, this outrage
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that we've seen blossoming throughout the whole arab world, will that drag groups like hezbollah and other nations like lebanon or iran into this conflict just as the israelis muster all of their troops outside the gaza strip and prepare for what many worry could be a ground invasion that will heap further outrage and blood upon an already deeply unsettling situation that's already upended the middle east. chris. >> matt bradley, thank you. and up next, the chaos continues on capitol hill, inside the new republican strategy to empower temporary speaker patrick mchenry, and the looming fallout from the party's far right faction. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. hi, my name is damion clark. if you have both medicare and medicaid, i have some really encouraging news that you'll definitely want to hear. depending on the plans available in your area, you may be eligible to get extra benefits with a humana medicare advantage dual-eligible special needs plan. all of
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floor of the house. with jim jordan unable to get the votes needed to become speaker and no other viable candidate readily apparent, house republicans are now trying something brand new, giving the temporary speaker patrick mchenry the power to do the job for the next few months. but there are a lot of questions that would come with that, and so far not a lot of answers. for example, what kind of power would he actually have? are democrats on board? is the move even constitutional? and while some republican house leaders including jordan support the plan, it's clear many of their members absolutely hate it. >> the republicans gave us the majority to fight back against the democrat agenda. we're handing our majority back over to the democrats by going along with a power sharing
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agreement, it's absurd. it's the biggest eff you to republican voters. over half the republicans are going to go to the floor and vote against it. it's going to take democrats to make it happen, and that is a historic betrayal to our republican voters if we go along with it. >> i want to bring in nbc's ali vitali on capitol hill, brendan buck was an aid to former republican speakers paul ryan and john boehner, and he's also an msnbc political analyst, and fred upton recently retired after serving more than 35 years in the house as a republican congressman from michigan. good to have all of you here. what the heck is going on, ali? >> reporter: you know, confusion reigns supreme here on capitol hill, chris. republicans are still huddled in their closed-door meeting. they took a 15-minute break. mchenry went up to the floor to open it is and put it back into recess. i caught up with him just asking some basic questions like who were you talking to, and what's the goal here? watch part of that conversation.
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>> are you talking with hakeem jeffries or any democrats right now? >> no. >> do you know of any members within your conference who are? >> i'm focused on electing jim jordan as speaker. that's my goal, and that's my focus. >> reporter: so mchenry is over on earth a saying that his only goal is to put jim jordan in the speakership. on earth b within the house republican conference, jim jordan himself backed the idea of empowering mchenry in a short-term capacity, staying speaker designee, and using the time in the interim to let government function, let the house move along on pieces of legislation like avoiding a government shutdown and condemning hamas and other israel-related resolutions and pieces of policy, but jordan would also use those intervening weeks and months to continue trying to cobble together support. in my conversations with
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sources, republicans haven't seen the text of this resolution that is theoretically done by ohio's dave joyce. there are a lot of questions about what's in it, like what the date of expiration is for the speaker pro tem, is it the 17th of november, is it the 20th, january 3rd of next year. all of that's important. republicans don't want to put this resolution forward on the floor until they know that it can pass. you're right to point out that most republicans i've spoken to and that we've talked to are not on board with this. they need democrats. democrats say we're open to that. we're not willing to tell you all of us will go along to get along until we read, republicans won't show it until democrat says it's going to vote for it. it's immensely confusing and part of why we're at such a confusing stalemate here. >> here you have a situation, brendan where -- and she mentioned congressman joyce, he's a moderate, right? he's one of the moderates who are part of this republican governance group, but they don't
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seem to have the votes to do it. then you have the person who's at the center of it, congressman mchenry who makes it sound like he doesn't want anything to do with this. where is this going? >> yeah, he may not -- i assure you he doesn't want anything to do with it. i don't think he wants this job at all, which may end up being why he gets it. i think david joyce a moderate. he's also one of the members that lives in reality. a lot of conservatives are refusing to accept reality. they don't think we've hit rock bottom yet. it seems very obvious to everybody -- >> if this isn't rock bottom, what is? i guess we have a government shutdown in less than a month. >> we may find out. jim jordan realizes jim jordan can't get the votes right now. they have to insist they have to keep going until he figures out how. right now you're seeing them dealing with stages of grief, not wanting to accept that this has actually happened and they're venting. what is being proposed here is some kind of power sharing
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agreement has never really happened and certainly not in any of our life times. they are going to have to cede some level of control. i think it's literally just we're going to open back up and start doing things. it's such a tectonic shift from what that house republican conference is like. kevin mccarthy got removed for working with democrats to fund the government for 45 days. that was a fireable defense. what we're talking about is relying on them to empower a speaker. it's not surprising that members are losing their minds, whether or not they're able to cool off and allow this to move forward, i don't know. i think there needs to be more time. this should feel very urgent. it doesn't feel urgent to these people yet. they don't have an israel resolution sitting on their lap. eventually they'll realize this has to happen. >> congressman, after 35 years, you know all of these players, and you know them well. you've worked with them. what do you see right now, and where do you see this going? >> well, look, the house now --
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house republicans have had almost -- we're into our third week, and they can't get 217. jordan finally realized that late last night or early this morning. they allow him to save some face by saying, look, we'll let you have another chance. we'll let patrick mchenry maybe do this until january 3rd. then we'll have another vote for speaker. you can use the next number of months to try and see if you can get 217. he's not going to get them. the 22 republicans that voted against him yesterday, they're not going to budge, and in fact, that number is going to only increase. so in the meantime, the world's afire. we've got these issues. i think what the democrats are literally asking for is they want a democracy. they want the house to function. let's bring up these votes, and let's see where the votes are. are we going to pass ukraine? they will probably on a 3-1 basis. are they going to pass aid to israel? they sure better. i think that will pass close to
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400 votes. are we going to avoid a shutdown, i sure hope that can happen. they'll do some essential governmental roles in a bipartisan way and rather than just require 217 republicans of which they can't get, which is what kevin mccarthy found out not only on the debt ceiling agreement last june, but keeping the government open on september 30th as well. he had to have democrat votes to win. he got them. he saved the country in a credit to him for doing it, but the folk who is like to vote no and, you know, get 100% of the loaf, they're sore losers, and they don't like this deal allowing mchenry to have it a little while. give it a little time and see if it can't gel. at the end of the day, for this to happen with mchenry, yes, he's going to have to have some democratic votes and a good number of republican votes as well. >> jim banks said this would be
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a betrayal, if you let democrats in, it's a betrayal to republican voters. do you understand that argument, and do you think that he's right, that there's at least half of this conference, this caucus who will not go along with this on the republican side? >> well, look, he's running for senate in indiana. he needs that hardcore republican base, and he's got it, and so he's not going to shift his position. he's very much like jim jordan. he's voted against all these proposals pretty much all of his days just like jim jordan did. you got to find that sweet spot in the middle. you've got to find the thoughtful republicans willing to say let's put the country first along with democrats that will be able to provide a majority, and you'll leave both the right and the left wings arguing among themselves. >> so we act as though this is going to take care of stuff or
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at least some people think it will, as you say, at least get the basics done. not everybody's even convinced of that, mike lawler said, yeah , this is a step, but it's hardly an answer. let's listen to what he said a little while ago. >> if we don't get everybody in the room to hash out the path forward, it doesn't matter who the speaker is, all right? we can elect a new speaker but we still need 218 votes on the floor to pass our appropriation bills, to deal with aid to israel, to deal with the crisis in ukraine, to deal with our border. if we can't compromise within the conference -- forget about the democrats -- within the conference, we're not going to be able to govern, that is the fundamental problem here. >> is he right? and let's say that this happens, you know mchenry well, is he a guy who can get some stuff done? >> he's proven he's a guy who can get stuff done. i could not agree more what he said. putting patrick mchenry in that position does not solve 90% of
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republicans' problems. the problems are so deep seeded, a refusal to govern, a refusal to accept the realities of funding the government, working with the president of another party, as long as we continue to say those things are out of bounds, none of this matters whatever powers patrick mchenry has are only as powerful as 218 votes for it. are they 218 republican votes or are they a bipartisan vote? that could be very difficult. the task ahead is almost impossible for anybody. i think it's one of the reasons why patrick mchenry is refusing. he knows as well as anybody, he's been around the block, how difficult this would be. he'll probably get run over in this process but he's the type of person who could do it. he's a person of great integrity, a person of real candor, and he's built respect. nobody's taking shots a the patrick mchenry. you notice that. they know he's one of the very few people who could meet this moment. it's still an impossible task. the speaker of a republican conference is an almost impossible job, even harder in
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this circumstance. >> i can only imagine, brendan, that you and the former congressman are so sad that you're not on capitol hill anymore. we thank you for being here with us instead. ali vitali, sorry, we need you there. that's going to do it for this, but we're going to come back in the next hour. we'll keep you updated and see if they land anywhere today. all right, still to come here on msnbc, president biden preparing for a prime time address to the nation just hours from now. we'll dig into the early details on a massive aid package that he's going to pitch to congress for ukraine and israel. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. on msnbc ♪ tourists tourists that turn into scientists. tourists photographing thousands of miles of remote coral reefs. that can be analyzed by ai in real time. ♪ so researchers can identify which areas are at risk.
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just hours after returning from a dangerous and politically risky trip to israel, president biden will speak to the nation tonight delivering a prime time oval office address that's expected to include a major funding request for israel and other hot spots. the large protest we saw at the capital yesterday is just one example of how the crisis in the middle east has activated a huge swath of americans, and in such a politically fractured time, it's unclear whether congress will agree to the request from the president. nbc's allie raffa is at the white house for us, peter baker is chief white house correspondent for "the new york times" and an msnbc political
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analyst. allie, what more do we know about the president's speech tonight? >> reporter: a senior white house official is telling us that the president has been working on this speech over the last week, including on his trip back to washington on air force one from that marathon trip to israel yesterday, and they say he's making some finishing touches to this speech today, but really, chris, we've seen the diplomatic demands of this president since october 1st really test his ability to rally foreign leaders around u.s. support for israel. this address we expect to test the president's ability to unite americans around not just support for israel amid this war against hamas, but also for ukraine as its war against russia rages on, and that's a tall order considering what you played at the top there, the divisions and the anger and frustration that we've seen not just in the middle east, but also here domestically in the u.s., but a senior white house
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official tells us that the president feels it's important to make this direct appeal to americans to remind them of what's at stake during these wars happening half a world away. and we also expect the president to talk about that roughly $100 billion aid package that we expect the white house to send to capitol hill by the end of the week. that's going to include aid not just for israel, but also ukraine, taiwan, and funding for the u.s./mexico border. of course you've seen from the marathon coverage of our capitol hill team, none of that money can go anywhere until a speaker of the house is elected, so expect the president to put some pressure on congress to be able to do that, chris. >> peter, you traveled with president biden to israel. talk about the resolve that you've seen from this president but also was yesterday's emotional speech before he left a sign, you think, of what we can expect to hear tonight? >> yeah, i think we'll hear a lot tonight that we heard yesterday in israel.
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he was going to israel in effect to give them a big hug and to hug both the prime minister and the people who have suffered so much from the hamas attack on october 7th, but also to give them a little friendly, gentle advice, which is to be careful about going too far. it made a rather direct comparison to 9/11 that i thought was really striking when he said it there. he said we too felt that same all consuming rage. we too felt, you know, the righteous anger over the slaughter of civilians. we made a mistake, he said, and we want, in effect, israel to learn from our lessons. he didn't say what the mistake was. clearly he was referring to the iraq war. it was meant to be a show of solidarity. i think it went over very well with the israelis. he's done something that no american president has ever done which is to go to israel at a time of war and to be as strongly worded in his expressions of support as any
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american has ever been. >> i'm hearing that tonight the president won't go into deep details about what exactly is involved in this funding request, which is probably to be expected. having said that, is the white house gearing up far fight or are they feeling confident that they're going to get this? >> well, this seems to be, you know, sort of the perfect storm in the sense of being able to marry something that they were really at logger heads to get passed, the ukraine aid, which has been blocked by conservative house republicans to something that almost everybody on the hill wants which is to provide more money to israel. the money for taiwan and the border would go a long way toward a lot of republican priorities. mix it all together and find enough sweeteners. $100 billion is going to draw some concern on the parts of some lawmakers at a time when the deficit is going up. you're going to hear from some republicans saying it's a lot of money that's been a running theme of some on the right.
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but at the moment, they think that they can pull together a bipartisan coalition for this you heard in the senate, both republicans and democrat talk about the need for this today. >> recent polling shows the president's approval rating continue to be low, but some republican voters we talked to who supported donald trump in the last election are, in fact, giving the president high marks on how he's been handling all of this. let's take a listen. >> i think he's doing the right thing by supporting israel. >> recently in the last few days, he's done an admirable job. >> biden has done a good job in ukraine, and so far in the mideast conflict, i think he's done the right things. i think we need candidates who are experienced in the nuances of foreign policy. >> i find that really fascinating among republicans who voted for donald trump, and the white house and biden himself are, in fact, of course leaning into his long foreign policy experience, but from a political perspective, peter, could this help the president
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who, as i said, last two, three, four polls have shown him really mired in low approval ratings. >> he's done something, which is outflank donald trump in terms of support for israel. trump as president had given israel through bibi netanyahu a lot of what israel wanted over the years, recognition of jerusalem as the israeli capital, recognition of their sovereignty over the golan heights and so on and so forth. it looked like trump had locked up sort of the, you know, a lot of the evangelicals and other israel supporters who appreciate that had on his part. biden, on the other hand, has now basically shown what happens in a crisis, that he has a long relationship with israel. he has been a long supporter of israel, and meanwhile, donald trump is out there talking about hezbollah is smart and criticizing bibi netanyahu. i think you're right to wonder whether or not respect for his
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foreign policy credentials translates into political support at home. that's something the white house understands is not necessarily a given. many americans, of course, may respect how he's handling ukraine and israel may support it, but at the same time they're looking at their own pocketbook issues. they're looking at inflation, they're looking at jobs. he wants to continue talking to them about those issues, just last week in the middle of this israel conflict, he did an event about jung fees and how he's trying to get rid of those. they're trying to keep their mind and attention focused at least in part of the economic issues they think matter the most in the election even as the president is spending most of his time thinking about foreign policy right now. >> peter baker, always great to see you, thank you so much. and coming up, the agonizing wait for answers: i'll talk to an israeli man whose brother and nephews were abducted by hamas. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. rts" onlc
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. breaking news just moments ago at the briefing you're watching right now with matt miller at the state department. 32 americans are now confirmed dead in the israel-hamas war. that's one more than we previously thought. in addition, we just learned that 11 remain unaccounted for, so there were 12. now there are 11. that person is confirmed to have died, and of course there are many americans who are still stuck in gaza to which matt miller said of course if the gate is open, we will try to
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allow american citizens in gaza to leave and on that border crossing to get aid, desperately needed aid, he said we want to see sustained humanitarian assistance going to gaza, and of course they do hope that still happens. in the meantime, the israeli military says the number of confirmed hostages taken by hamas continues to climb. over 200, more than a week after the invasion. among those captured, a family of four, including two children ages 12 and 16 taken from a kibbutz in southern israel near the gaza border. joining me is yaniv, his brother, brother's girlfriend and two nephews are among the hostages. first of all, i'm so sorry for what you and your family are having to endure. what do you know about their abduction, and have you gotten any word at all about how they're doing? >> well, i know -- thank you for
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having me, first. thank you for letting me tell the story of what happened here. we know they were abducted because hamas used propaganda to show how they kidnapped them, my brother and his girlfriend, and also we know that their mom was in a hole with the little children, 10 and 12, like you said, while the terrorists took them. and the little boy cried, please don't take me, i'm too young. so for sure we know they were abducted. for sure we know they were kidnapped, and they are being held over there but since that moment, we don't have any sign from them. we don't have any information about them, are they okay, are they healthy? are they being fed? are they being taken care of, their wounds, if they're
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wounded, we don't know anything. we want, you know, we want them back home out of this situation. we want to bring all the civilians that shouldn't be part of this situation back to us. it's so frustrating that we cannot even know what's their status. we've asked for it so many times. just bring us a sign about it, and tell us what are they doing right now? are they in a safe place? are they okay? we don't have a clue. >> i can't begin to imagine what you and your family are going through. please tell us about those family members. we were looking at the photos you were kind enough to send us and those two beautiful boys. what would you want everyone to know about them? >> i want everyone to know that those kids are like everyone's kids. and i want everyone to think and
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to try to imagine because you cannot. even me that i'm in this situation cannot even try to explain how to imagine someone taken from their own home. home is the safest place that you can be. those two boys are so funny. they are so living and they bring happiness wherever they are. think about the children of your own when you think of the situation. there's no way we can even think about or leave in a situation that our house is not safe. our place where we sleep at is not safe. they've taken them from their house when they were alone. this is so hard to imagine what was going on over there and how
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they feel right now. >> it seems wholly inadequate, but so many people are thinking about you and your family, are sending good thoughts, prayers, hoping that everything turns out that you get your family back to you soon, yaniv yakov, we'll hope to have good news and you can come on and tell us that soon. thank you for the time. we appreciate it. >> thank you so much for having me, and bring them back home. more on the israel-hamas war in the next hour, including the latest on the trucks of humanitarian aid amassing on egypt's side of the border with gaza. the unexpected infrastructure problems that is holding up some help. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. you're watinchg "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc healthcare should evolve this is spring semester at fairfield-suisun unified. they switched to google tools for education
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