and i do think that's notable. he didn't give any other names specifically, but i do think that there are other names that are in the mix on this. mchenry is certainly not the only one, but i think it's also important to listen when democrats say they had two goals here, the first was to make sure that someone like jim jordan who continues to say there were problems when there were none with the 2020 election results, that he did not become speaker and then trying to move on to something that could allow the house, to, a, function and, b, function in somewhat bipartisan fashion. that's notable, but doesn't mean it's any closer to happening. >> nbc's ali vitali, good job getting those questions in. we appreciate it. our coverage continues right now with ana cabrera and josé diaz-balart. right now on special coverage, the house back in session in moments preparing to hold a third vote for house speaker. jim jordan made a last ditch effort today trying to convince his party holdouts.

did he change any minds? also ahead, president biden's prime time address to the nation. his message with israel on the version of a ground invasion of gaza. plus, the desperately needed humanitarian aid ready and waiting at gaza's border. will that border ever open to let it through? good morning, happy friday, it's 10:00 eastern. i'm ana cabrera reporting alongside my colleague and friend josé diaz-balart for more continuing special coverage. and we begin with some breaking news from capitol hill. the house about to gavel into session preparing to hold a third vote for speaker. >> so republican jim jordan is struggling to save his bid for the gavel, holding a news conference just hours ahead of this vote. >> i think the american people are thirsty for change. i think they are hungry for leadership, and frankly, they know that the white house can't provide it. >> we have our capitol hill reporters gathering the latest

information, our steve kornacki is standing by at the big board. also with us is republican strategist and msnbc political analyst susan del percio and former democratic congressman max rose of new york. >> so steve, let's go over the numbers. what are the numbers telling you about jordan's chances in this third vote? anything could change for him? >> yeah, i mean, look, i think the expectation is it's going to go from bad to worse for jim jordan on this third ballot. the question would be how much worse and then what would happen as a result of that? put this in some perspective, what you're looking at here, these are all of the republicans who voted against jim jordan on the last ballot, on the second ballot. the total number here is 22. so there were 22 republicans who voted against jim jordan. it meant that he got a total of 199 votes to be speaker of the house. assuming that everybody is there and voting, the magic number is going to be 217. so he was significantly short of that. it means he would need to win

over the vast majority of these folks who voted no here, and the problem that jordan had is on that last ballot, there were four new no votes. four republicans who voted for him on the first ballot who then switched and voted against him on the second ballot. drew ferguson from georgia was one of them, marionette miller meeks from iowa, pete stauber, that was the question on the third ballot. we're going to track it here, how many new no votes are there? how many republicans who have voted for jordan on the first two ballots say enough is enough and vote for somebody else in the third. we've gotten some indications from public statements from some republicans. for instance, david val day owe , he's had close re-election races. he was for jordan on the first and second ballot. after the second ballot he was

one of those republicans who put out a statement saying, enough, let's move on. let's try to find a way to get patrick mchenry in there short-term. that's off the table right now. mark momolnaro from new york pu out a similar statement, brian fitzpatrick from the philadelphia suburbs put out a similar statement. a lot of republicans in the last two days were putting out statements trying to get a movement going to move away from jordan and move towards that idea of patrick mchenry as an extended interim speak e. that idea seemed to blow up in the republican conference yesterday. how many of those republicans are now just going to be no votes on jim jordan. so again, there were 22 total republicans who voted against him last time around. he only had a total of 199 to be speaker. is that number going to get close to 30, the number of republicans against him on this next ballot?

is it going to go over 30? how much frustration is there on the republican side that jordan continues to push forward with this? how much frustration is there that that idea of putting mchenry in there for an extended period kind of blew up in the conference yesterday. is that frustration going to be reflected in the votes we're about to see? is there a group of republicans who want to send a message to jordan of enough is enough? so that's really the question here. has he won over any of these previous no votes? all indications yesterday he met with them was no. how many new no votes, that's the open question on this next ballot, and if it's a significant number, what would he do then? >> so we're seeing the house just gathering, and they gavelled in. they'll have a prayer, then the pledge of allegiance followed by a quorum vote that's just a roll call, saying who's present, who's going to be participating in this speaker vote. we'll continue to keep an eye on

what's happening there on the floor. we also anticipate some speeches, some nominating speeches that also comes before the big vote. our ali vitali is there on capitol hill tracking all the fast-moving developments this morning. ali, we heard from jim jordan. he spoke to his republican caucus trying to rally the votes, trying to win over the holdouts. did he change anyone's minds? >> reporter: it doesn't appear he did. you got to imagine if jim jordan were going into this vote with any more new support, he would have announced it this morning around 8:00 a.m. when he held forth with reporters. what we it get was a lesson on the wright brothers and the idea that the house does need to elect a speaker. i'm not going into this vote anticipating that jordan is going to have any new ground swell of support. that would be welcome news for jordan allies. at the same time, when we listen to them do effectively their home room attendance roll call, it will look one number different we expect because

there is one member that we think might not be present today. we'll wait to see when his name comes up in the roll call to be sure. it is someone if we're right is a jordan backer, which would mean jordan is down one yes vote today. we'll be playing the numbers game again, not in a significant way, but still notable as we're in a position where every vote does count. i will say as we see patrick mchenry on the screen, i ran into him as he was walking into the building this morning with his usual quick pace. i asked him if he thought there was any reason to believe jordan's vote totals would have significantly changed. he said i'd have to ask jordan. if republicans thought they were getting closer to electing a speaker, i think we'd be seeing a lot more joy from within their ranks. instead what we're seeing and the conversation i just finished having was with the top three democrats urging republicans to still come back to a bipartisan solution that seemingly was abandoned yesterday. here's some of hakeem jeffries, the top democrat in the house talking to us reporters just in the last few minutes.

>> there are still reasonable republicans over on the other side of the aisle, as i've repeatedly said, good men and women who want the house reopened, who want the congress to function, and what we've said is we just want a house that allows for bipartisan bills that benefit the american people. >> and that was jeffries responding to my question about it seems like this bipartisan idea of empowering mchenry or someone who's not jim jordan seemed dead yesterday. i asked jeffries why he thought it could be revived. that's the answer he gave me. i do also think it was notable because in my conversations with democrats, they keep leaving the door open, when i say would you empower mchenry. jeffreys and others have continued to say this is not about any one individual for them. they do have the goal on the specific the front of making sure jim jordan is nowhere near the speakership because they call him an insurrectionist, and noting even as early this morning, he still says he thinks

there were problems with the 2020 election. for democrats as long as it's not jordan, there are other options, and when i asked congressman jeffries who those other options were, i pose some names like steve womack who's a veteran republican lawmaker here who's often in the chair because he runs votes so efficiently. jeffries didn't weigh in specifically on womack. i think it's important for us to widen our aperture a little bit. the conversation is around the current pro tem speaker mchenry. that might not be the only conversation. i do think that's a very back burner one, though, because republicans by and large balked at the idea. >> how about coming together on anything whether it's with democrats or within their own party. it just seems like there is nothing, susan, that is coming out of this. i'm wondering the difference between what happened to the former speaker and the many votes that he carried out in order to get speakership. this is round three, it's probably going to be strike

three. is the mchenry option over, and if it is, is there any path forward for republicans? >> well, the reason why this is probably going to be over on round three for jordan versus 15 rounds with mccarthy is no one wants to trade anything within the republican party. there's no trading to get jordan up there. plus, jordan's not one to negotiate or trade. >> because mccarthy was giving away the sessions and winning new votes each round! even matt gaetz i think said at the end, there's nothing else to get. he gave away everything. also, jordan's a bully. we've heard a lot of reports of congress members and their families being threatened because of the rhetoric going around. some push by jordan himself, so they are literally almost coming to blows in conference. but now the question about mchenry is i think interesting

because i don't know if he will be the answer, but if you're willing to create the votes to give mchenry the power, why not think about creating the votes to give someone else temporary power for maybe three months, you know, as they were talking. >> can they get to anybody. >> that's the question. it will be a minority of both parties having to come together to put forward a solution. it may be 105 and 115 democrats and republicans having to come together to negotiate that back door because the no votes that we see that steve went over, they are very different types of republicans out there, but the one thing they all have in common is that they want to govern, so now you're looking at 22 that want to govern. i'm sure there's a lot more in that conference who want to side with that! so you mentioned some threats, just the tactics that we're

seeing, not necessarily from jordan himself but certainly supporters of jordan, what we're hearing from these other members of congress who didn't vote for jordan the first time is very much like what we're hearing from ken buck, take a listen. >> so far i've had four death threats. i've been evicted from my office in the -- in colorado. i have notice of an eviction because the landlord is mad with my voting record on the speaker issue, and everybody in the conference is getting this. >> congressman, how did a speaker vote turn to? >> look, there's always going to be some level of bullying when it comes to congressional politics. the level to which congressman buck is talking about is completely horrifying. but anytime that you're doing -- >> and he's not the only one. >> no, of course not. anytime you're doing a speaker's race -- and i've been on the receiving end of some of these phone calls. you have donors calling, other party leaders calling say, hey,

you better do this. there's activity in the base, this and that. anytime it gets to threatening someone's life, their family's life, their economic life, obviously unacceptable and extraordinarily scary. but let's bring this back to jim jordan. jim jordan's cooked, all right? no shot, dead on arrival. he just has an alphabet problem at this point. these votes happen in alphabet -- he's already done. >> he doesn't have any momentum. >> and then you're going to see guys like fitzpatrick, molinaro saying you already don't have it. i got to think about my swing voters. he's going to lose 30, 40 votes. mchenry on the same hand is done because that requires democratic votes and rightfully so, leader jeffries is saying you guys are unfit to lead. you can't get the job done on your own, so if you want to work with us, it has to be as equals.

equal members of the rules committee. >> as it should be. >> but at the same time, republicans would argue voters put them in charge, so why should -- >> what about the districts in new york that have more democrats than republicans in them, and they elected a republican. it's not about the republican voter, when they say that what they're saying is we care about a primary. that's it. >> but sharing power is something that no party in power likes -- >> you know who did it for two years successfully and it led to joe biden getting a lot of legislation through? the senate. the first two years of joe biden's administration the senate was technically majority with harris being a deciding vote. however, when they had to get even to certain other numbers for certain things to pass, it was they had a shared government, shared committees. yes, there was always a democrat who was the head of it, but

there were equal numbers of republicans and democrats on every committee. why can't that be something the republicans are willing to give, even temporarily. >> you can't take the politics out of politics, okay? the republicans were, yes, elected to lead the house and each and every day they're showing the american people they are unfit to serve, unfit to leave and are abjectly incompetent. this at a moment where the world is in turmoil and is demanding american leadership, unified american leadership. so if the republican party continues to be incompetent, they have no right to come to the democratic party and assert any type of authority over them. come to the table as equals and you can govern as equals delivering bipartisan solutions that the american people rightfully need right now. >> what i don't understand, though, is why they're even taking this vote, if everybody seems to agree, jordan doesn't have a path forward, why do you think he's going through this?

susan. >> i think to get some people on the record and put some people in a behind. >> he's already done that. >> it's one more time. he'll go through it. he'll end it and he also -- don't forget, politicians at times when they're in that situation, they can think maybe, just maybe that's what a lot of elected officials -- sorry, max, but i've seen the hopeful, the maybe enough, but otherwise he also is just a vindictive maniacal man who just wants to go after people. >> you know, max, i've been thinking, and i presume that it has a lot to do with 2016. why has it gotten to be like this, that the concept of bipartisanship doesn't exist on capitol hill. the atmosphere is one where people within their own political party are getting death threats and pressures. max, what happened? >> well, let's not go too far with that proposition. of course, under democratic

leadership in the house of representatives under nancy pelosi's leadership as well , they were able to pass a whole series of bipartisan measures that are still delivering for the american people, but that is difficult. remember, when the democrats held the house of representatives, they had a smaller majority than what the republicans are dealing with right now, and they were able to deliver chips act, infrastructure act, unprecedented gun violence protection legislation, and they almost made it look too easy. and now you see this -- >> so what happened? >> i'll tell you what happened, the republicans don't know what they're doing. this is abject incompetence before our eyes each and every day. so yes, of course they're calling vote after vote after vote right now. i'll tell you why because what they care about are the whims of their extremist base right now. not the desires of the majority of the american people who want us to get to work, who want this bold and nonetheless bipartisan legislation.

but they're not listening to them. they're listening to this very small extremist minority that is not representative of these swing voters and the vast majority of the american people but who want perpetual political combat. that's who jim jordan is listening to. >> a lot of people who have been elected since i'd go back to 2014, 2012, they are there to be no. they don't to want govern. the amount of those people over time has grown. you have a lot of republicans -- or i should say it is a minority, and you are right, max st a minority of the majority and they're very loud. they don't want to govern. they believe if i don't get 100% and i win 100%, then no one should get anything. they won't take 60%, so they don't want to govern, and that's what's happened is you have a bunch of republicans there who have no interest in getting anything done. >> okay, everybody stay with us. ali vitali, steve kornacki, former congressman max rose,

susan del percio, much more to come. we're continuing to follow what's happening there in the house. you can see in the capitol right now they are doing that quorum call, making sure everybody's present for the speaker vote to come. we're going to keep our eyes on that and hop back as it develops. >> it develops with those nominating speeches and the vote, right? hopefully that will happen in the next hour. >> we'll see. >> we'll see. >> that's the plan, but anything can happen! that's true. we'll also have the latest on the israel-hamas war including the presidential plea last night, president biden's message to the world as tensions boil over in the middle east. plus, if israel does launch this ground invasion as expected, what does that mean for getting humanitarian aid into gaza? we're back in just a minute. we're back in just a minute. choosing a treatment for your chronic migraine - 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more - can be overwhelming. so, ask your doctor about botox®. botox® prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine before they even start. it's the #1 prescribed branded chronic migraine treatment. so far, more than 5 million botox® treatments

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israel's defense minister saying troops will soon see gaza, quote, from the inside. right now in gaza, the humanitarian situation is growing even more dire. >> and those aid trucks remain lined up along the egypt-gaza border. take a look at these pictures. there are literally dozens of them. it's not clear when or if they will be able to cross. let's bring in raf sanchez in ashdod, israel, and aaron gilchrist at the white house. this morning the idf said the majority of the hostages in gaza are alive. what more do you have on this, and what's the current state of the war? >> reporter: yeah, jose, well, the idf giving us a more granular look at the situation with the hostages. they say there are around 200 in total. they say about 10% of them are children under the age of 18. we spoke yesterday with the family of an 8-year-old boy. his name is ohad. he turns 9 on monday. he is one of those kids being

held by hamas in gaza right now, but as you said, the really significant line in this statement from the idf is that the majority of the hostages are alive. the reason that matters is hamas has a long track record of the holding the bodies of dead israelis, but claiming to be holding live hostages, basically to increase their value as human bargaining chips. the israelis are saying they believe the majority of those 200 hostages are still alive. they say there are another 100 to 200 people unaccounted for, which may mean that the number of hostages may go up. the number of people killed may go up or possibly both, guys. >> and so raf, we're learning about this greek orthodox church that was hit in a strike in gaza. what do you know about that? >> reporter: yeah, so the greek orthodox church saying one of its churches overnight was hit by an israeli air strike. they are not giving any death toll themselves, but they say

about 500 people, both christian and muslim were sheltering in the church. families all over gaza have been going to churches, to hospitals, to u.n. buildings, anywhere they think will be safe. the church not giving a death toll. the palestinian health ministry, which is run by hamas says 16 people were killed. the israeli military is confirming they did carry out that strike. they say they were not targeting the church. they were targeting a hamas command center next door but that the impact of the explosion did hit the church. >> how is the president and the white house reacting to the issues of protecting civilians and getting aid into gaza, especially after his trip this week to israel when he announce that had there had been an agreement reached. >>. >> reporter: i think the white house has been realistic about the fragility of the situation. the aid obviously needs to get in. at the same time, they want to make sure that civilians are not harmed and anything else that

happens on the ground in israel and gaza. the state department taking the lead on this, and what we've heard from that agency is that the agreement, the aid agreement here that's going to be coming, will be coming in the coming days. really that's all they said in terms of a time line. we know there are about 20 truckloads of aid that are sitting, waiting to cross from egypt into gaza. right now we understand that the leadership there, u.s., israeli and egyptian are all working through the details of how that aid is going to be delivered, when exactly it will move through the rafah crossing, and then to try to create some safe zones for civilians to be able to receive that aid, the food, the water, the medicine, and not find themselves in harm's way as best as possible as the conflict continues on. we also know that there will be an effort when this crossing opens, when this agreement is implemented, there will be an effort by the u.s., anyway, to get americans out of gaza. those who want to leave gaza. is a special envoy who's been appointed to deal with this

issue, a u.s. special envoy to deal with the humanitarian issue, and as we understand it, that's the person who's really working around the clock to get this deal put in place so that it can be executed. at the same time, there's we know a coming request from the white house for more funding for humanitarian aid to help israel, also to help ukraine, and of course to see that part of this aid question answered is going to take an action by congress, and we know that the house right now, guys, is stuck. >> aaron gilchrist and raf sanchez, thank you both very much. let's bring in former nato -- admiral james stavridis. thanks for being with us. the civilian casualties in gaza are mounting. the humanitarian situation is increasingly more and more dire. if israel invades this ground incursion we've been talking about, this could all get

enworse. what are the stakes for israel at this moment? >> enormous. the good news for israel is i see no scenario in which there is an existential threat for israel. it is not yom kippur war, it's not 1967, but israel's economy, its standing in the world, its diplomatic relations are going to be hinged upon the degree to which the israeli military can minimize civilian casualties when -- and i think it's inevitable, when they go into gaza, ana, and back to the humanitarian piece. i think the israelis are well aware how important it is to get that aid flowing as well. that helps their narrative as they move civilians out of the north part of gaza where they intend to go in, but they also need to work with the egyptians to get that aid flowing north from egypt as soon as possible.

>> saying that the majority of hostages in gaza are alive? that's an important statement, and i'm sure that's such great news within all the -- >> for the families. >> the difficulty, but i'm just wondering, so does that show that they have some intelligence inside, even underground in gaza? and what's the next step to finding those hostages and bringing them back to safety? >> certainly is full of israeli special forces, israeli naval commandos, israelis who are conducting real espionage against hamas, israel has been preparing for this moment for a decade and a half since they effectively left governing gaza. so, yes, they have quite good intelligence to include in and around those 300 miles of underground passageways. i think it's very good news and

the reason they're sharing it is also to put pressure on hamas not to harm further individuals, hostages, and to answer the question what to do about it now, the israeli military is trying to fix the position of those hostages, do everything they can to further gather that intelligence, and then they will attempt to rescue them. they're very good at this, even the israelis, however, had failures. munich was a failure. i think israel will go above all for those hostages at the start of the ground incursion. >> we are looking at these live images in gaza this morning, and over the course of the last several days this hour we were seeing a lot of smoke rising from buildings after air strikes. right now surprisingly it feels eerily quiet. it looks calm, although we know it cannot be calm internally.

we're of course continuing to track all of the aid trucks lining up at the gaza/egypt border. i want to circle back to the humanitarian situation right now because, again, president biden said two days ago he had worked out a deal with egypt to open up the rafah border. that isn't happening yet, and i just wonder once this ground invasion begins, admiral, what does that mean for any aid getting in? >> well, let us hope, anna that these two event streams, if you will, the aid flowing to the north and the israeli ground incursion, let's hope they can be kept separate. that will be challenging because there will be those in the arab world who will say kind of counterintuitively, don't allow the aid to flow and the reason is because they'll to want make israel look as bad as possible. however, i think there is an inevitability to this aid flowing.

i've seen this again and again this these humanitarian crises. the first couple of loads are the hardest ones. that establishes the procedures. that means the diplomacy has been worked out. once it opens, it will be many more than 20 trucks. that's the good news here. think about ukraine, the grain shipments. ukraine had to work out extraordinarily detailed plans to get grain out, that's now flowing fairly smoothly. i think that will be the same here, but as you and jose have said so many times, it's unpredictable at this moment. >> admiral, al qaeda was successfully destroyed for the most part. isis was successfully destroyed for the most part. can hamas be successfully destroyed for the most part, do you think? >> i think it can be in its current incarnation of this evil creature created by iran that has dominated a significant

element, 2 million of the palestinian people. i think it is correct that hamas, the terrorist organization hamas is distinct from the broad sweep of the people of palestine, particularly those in gaza. i think it can be rooted out, much as islamic state, as much as al qaeda was broken by finding, incarcerating or killing the leadership, working with the populations to show them alternatives. this is the real use of what sometimes, jose and ana, is called soft power providing alternatives to hamas. i think that is going to be a significant and important part of destroying hamas. not just finding and killing the leaders but winning over the people of palestine away from hamas. >> and that seems to be a very, very big challenge in this moment. thank you so much for providing

your guidance and your expertise, admiral stavridis, great to have you here. back to the breaking news on capitol hill this morning, the house set to vote for a third time on republican jim jordan's bid to be the next house speaker. >> let's go right to the hill and nbc's julie tsirkin and also with us, republican strategist mike ricci and former congressman mike israel, a democrat from new york. >> reporter: we're at the stage of this where members are being bribed by candy and gum to get through this day and potentially through this weekend because they are expected to go into a third ballot for jim jordan's attempt at the speaker gavel. we don't anticipate that much of the votes for him, though, would change. i was at the press conference this morning that he had held with some of his allies in the room. he said he is not giving up. he'll keep going. one of his allies told me there's plenty of time until november 17th when that next government funding deadline hits. that they have time to get jordan to switch some of those holdouts.

right now we're told that former speaker kevin mccarthy is actually going to give that nominating speech for jordan on the floor. that's obviously very notable for many reasons, but obviously mccarthy has said many times that he's standing behind jordan despite jordan of course now running for the seat that mccarthy was ousted from. but right now there's basically a quorum call going on on the floor. they're trying to get all members into the chamber filing in so they can begin this ballot and begin this vote. as we've been tracking this whole time, this is really all about numbers, right? jordan lost 20 votes on that first ballot, 22 on that second. yesterday he was here well into the night trying to meet with some of those holdouts, particularly those moderate vulnerable members from new york, some of those in districts that president biden had won in 2020 trying to get them over to his side. right now there really is no path forward for jordan to get to 217. in the words of thomas massie, there isn't a path necessarily

for others to get to that 217 number. as you heard from our white house colleagues with the supplemental potentially coming over today, with pressure being place on the house to have a speaker, it's really not a good look as they continue into the weekend now without any path forward to unlock the gridlock that we've seen in the house of representatives. >> mike, jordan spent the day yesterday meeting with house republicans in the last round as julie was saying, he actually lost a vote. which direction do you think things will go today, and is this a situation where we may be seeing what the last speaker tried to do, vote after vote after vote? >> well, i think in the case of kevin mccarthy, the vote was going -- he was being -- he was able to put it down in chunks back to single digits and show momentum. here it's the opposite. look, i've been around leadership elections now for 20 years, and i've never seen this kind of slow motion combustion that we're seeing. jim jordan held a press conference this morning. he sounded defeated.

he was quoting the bible. folks on the hill in realtime thought he was dropping out. instead he said his message was to open the house. it was just pitiful. he should have come into the week setting a more unifying tone, making a big, bold offer to the moderates. in the of using the bully pulpit, he's just been trying to bully people. you hear julie talking about getting gum, candy, there's no food, champagne, caviar, there are no rabbits in this hat. this is going in the wrong direction for him. he's doing the exact opposite of what speakers are supposed to do. he's making his members take tougher votes and plunging the house further and further into chaos. it's a clinic on whatnot to do in this situation. >> congressman, yesterday democrats seemed to be warming to the idea of empowering mchenry, the current speaker pro tem to get this hill up and running giving him more powers. that obviously fell through. what is the path forward, do you think, for democrat right now? >> hakeem jeffries has said

consistently he will entertain an enlightened bipartisan path forward. you've got to have somebody to negotiate that path with. right now democrats do not have somebody to negotiate with. i served with jim jordan for many years when i was in the house of representatives. i think i understand him, fundamentally jim jordan is a wrestler. he's a wrestling coach. he has no problem putting his colleagues in an endless chokehold. one of his key allies congressman davidson from ohio said this morning, if we can do it today, we'll do it today. jim jordan's calculation is to keep the house in a chokehold, to keep washington in a chokehold, to keep the country in a chokehold until somebody pounds the mat and taps out, and i don't see that happening. >> yeah, i mean, i'm wondering who would pound that mat. jordan made things extremely difficult for ryan with the freedom caucus back then.

how does jordan's history complicate his bid? to use the congressman's terms, this is a chokehold that may or may not work. >> yeah, these members of congress, these house members, they have the longest memories. they remember every slight, everything that happened. bad blood doesn't even begin to describe it. so you know, thinking about these conservatives, you know, they always want power. they want gavels. they want a do-over site, but when the time comes, they don't know how to wield power. you know, you talked ability some of the speakers in the past. john boehner, one of the longest serving republican speakers in modern history. six years. jim jordan can't even get off the floor. and there's just no, you know, when boehner was speaker and congressman israel will remember, you don't want to keep members together too long. this isn't like a jury where you keep them in the room until they figure out. the longer they're together, the more they get on each other's nerves. it's not like we're going to

have a weekend retreat and figure it out, it's the wrong tactic to keep them together. >> we are continuing to show that live image inside the house chamber where it appears time has run out when it comes to that quorum call. we saw this last time too, there was a delay between the quorum call and nominating speeches. the former speaker, kevin mccarthy will be giving the nominating speech for jim jordan's speakership today. again, will that make a difference is the big question. congressman, before all this voting gets going, you have described the potential of a jordan speakership as, quote, putting a fox in charge of the hen house and then blowing up the hen house. where to you stand now after watching several days of voting? >> well, i stand where i was. look, jim jordan came to congress with many others not to govern, but to help bring the institutions down. he is a reflection of members of

congress who came after the tea party with an agenda, not for what we call regular order as mike knows, the functioning of the house, but constant disorder, a congress of chronic chaos. and having him in charge of that institution would completely blow it up as i have said. he will have no interest in truly negotiating with the white house, with the democratic majority in the senate, his only interest will be to advance an agenda that includes impeaching president biden on the most frivolous charges, denying the results of the last election, and if he's speaker in 2025, does anybody believe that he would certify a democrat as the winner of the election no matter what the numbers were? that's the agenda that this speaker of the house will pursue. and it is very dangerous for the american people. >> yep, from regular order to irregular disorder maybe. julie tsirkin, matt richie, and former congressman steve israel,

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welcome back. we turn now to the humanitarian crisis inside gaza and the aid that's still stalled at its border with egypt. trucks are lined up there at that rafah border crossing waiting for the signal to move in with that desperately needed food, water, medicine. that was all supposed to happen today, but still no movement. >> nbc news correspondent meagan fitzgerald is in cairo, egypt. megan, good morning. president biden announced a deal for the aid over that border crossing two days ago. what's happened? >> reporter: yeah, you're absolutely right. so a deal has been reached that we know, and according to officials, we could see this border crossing opening as early as tomorrow. yes, there's a deal, but

according to u.n. officials there's still some more details that need to be worked out and ironed out, for example, with a limited amount of resources and supplies going in each day, there could be concerns for crowd safety with this perception thinking that that's all there is to come, creating a dangerous situation. now, earlier today we heard from the u.n. secretary general antonio guterres who talked very passionately about the need to get this aid across the border as soon as possible. we're talking about more than 150 truckloads of supplies, nearly a dozen planes filled with needed resources that need to get to the other side. he talked about how time is running out. he also made pleas for this humanitarian cease fire so that they can safely get that aid across the border to those who desperately need it. i want you to listen to a little bit of what he had to say. >> these trucks are not just trucks.

they are a lifeline. they are the difference between life and death for so many people in gaza. what we need is to make them move, to make them move to the other side of this wall. >> reporter: he also went on to talk about the need to get fuel across the border as well to be able to refuel those trucks that are going to be delivering that aid to the people who desperately need it, guys. >> and meghan, you are there in egypt, we've been keeping an eye on protests all across the middle east, it's, you know, a friday going into a weekend. should we expect the wave of demonstrations to grow. >> reporter: you know, ana, it's a great question, and it certainly appears to be the case. we're now looking at three days of protests from lebanon to tunisia where thousands of people gathered outside of the israeli embassy, to jordan where

protests continue today, and here in egypt where we've seen protests all across the country. keep in mind, demonstrations are not typically allowed here, but there is this frustration, this anger from the top down, and we are seeing that spill out into the streets. people tired and angry of watching how innocent civilians, men, women, especially children ing killed every single day, and they're calling for that violence to stop, guys. >> meagan fitzgerald in just a minute for us this morning here local, thank you very much. two weeks tomorrow since the massacre and today we're still hearing new horror stories of what happened, two weeks ago today. coming up next, we're continuing to track the speaker vote on capitol hill, the latest when we come back after a short break. >> you're watching special coverage on msnbc. verage on msn. conquer 2000-word essays.

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morning, jury selection beginning in the first trial of the fulton county election interference case. >> former trump attorney kenneth chesebro will be the first go to trial. the 19 charged to two have pled guilty including former trump lawyer sidney powell who reached a last minute plea deal yesterday. >> let's bring in the host of msnbc's katie phang show and our legal contributor katie phang. set the scene, what do we expect to happen in court today? especially after that bombshell announcement of the plea deal yesterday with sidney powell. >> yeah, so a lot of behind the scenes action going on, meaning we actually don't have anything televised at this point, but 450 prospective jurors arrived at the fulton county courthouse this morning. they proceeded to the jury room on the seventh floor. after receiving preliminary instructions from judge scott mcafee proceeded to complete or are in the process of completing a written questionnaire vetted

by both sides by the state of georgia as well as defense counsel for kenneth cheese cheeseboro. they'll turn in the questionnaires to the jury clerk and return on monday to go through individual questioning through panels of 14, through groups of 14. in the meantime, kenneth chesebro was in the courthouse somewhere. we have people inside the courthouse. they've been looking for him. they haven't seen him inside the courtroom. however, we do know that kenneth chesebro was taken aback by the fact that his co-defendant that was supposed to go to trial with him, sidney powell took a plea at the last minute yesterday. now, the terms of that plea deal are probation, but the critical term is the fact that sidney powell must testify truthfully when called upon by the state of georgia. does that mean that she'll be testifying against kenneth chesebro? that's left to be seen. for a little bit of clor. there was back and forth between the state and defense in the judge's chambers. maybe there was a plea deal,

maybe not. >> there's also news in trump's civil case? >> yeah, so in the new york a.g.'s civil fraud case, judge engoren is angry because donald trump's campaign website kept up an attack against the clerk of judge engoron, and as a result of that, he was demanding some type of sanctions against -- >> katie, so sorry to interrupt you, let's go to the house floor, we have kevin mccarthy now speaking giving the nominating speech for jim jordan. >> now, i've listened to the speeches this week, and i can already tell you what my friends on the other side will on the other side will tell you using their poll-tested phrases. let me correct the record. jim jordan is an effective legislator. [ applause ]

to legislate is about more than the name on the bill. it is about reaching compromise and working long hours behind the scenes to get the job done. >> the house will come to order. the gentleman may resume. >> when you are the chairman of a committee, you're responsible for dozens of bills passing the house, and being signed into law. so let me tell you a few facts that don't commend the polls. as the leader of the judiciary committee, jim has passed more bills through the house in just three years than an entire democrat leadership team that has a collective 28 years in congress. [ applause ]

mr. aguilar has a whopping one whole bill signed into law, a post office in san bernardino. i guess that's good enough to be caucus chair. jim jordan on the other hand has a hand in drafting bills like the raines act to curb unaccountable bureaucrats. he helped negotiate and pass hr-2, the strongest border security bill this house has ever passed. [ applause ] and many of you know, because you were in the room, watching jim find compromise, watching jim listen to your positions,

and finding a bill that can pass, and let's put this in reality. we have had large majorities, but we never could pass a border security bill. that takes leadership. now, they're going to get upset by it. why? because every single democrat voted against securing our border. democrats are attacking jim because they don't want the american people to remember that they voted against securing and keeping a wide open border. they may not want the american public to know the number of people we catch on the terrorist watch list. they may not want people to know what the future holds in the security for our nation, based upon their policies. name me one bill democrats passed that would secure our border? i'm waiting. you can't. because they haven't.

mr. speaker, the truth is if we measure lawmakers by how many bills have their name on it, we are using the wrong measuring stick. some of my members, i know, with the most bills to their name are the most selfish. jim jordan on the other hand is one of the most selfless members i've met. [ applause ] i've known jim a long time, so i want to do something different. i actually called the freshman members on his committee and asked them, what do you think of your chairman? here's just a few. i quote, jim empowers every member of judiciary to pursue what interests them. a quote by another, he lets each of us take the lead on the

issues that are important to us, even letting freshmen and junior members take important roles. another one, he trusts our judgment on how we handle issues and witnesses, and always seeks our input on key issues. another, as a freshman, he had me lead off a hearing that related to my subject matter expertise and he goes out of his way to highlight member successes. he is straightforward, honest and reliable. that is who jim jordan is and that's what being a speaker is all about. [ applause ] now, some of you might not know this, but jim and i have a long history.

we take our jobs serious. i first met jim as a candidate, i traveled to ohio, i remember pulling up for breakfast at a bob evans in ohio. there was jim, having a meeting, listening to constituents. i traveled with him throughout the day from rotary to farm bureau to just listening to people who had concerns and i watched them the same jim jordan i see today. he was a leader, a listener, and a fighter. we were actually elected to congress that same year and became close friends. it was a small class. there was only 13 of us, one of the smallest republican classes in modern history. over time, we took different routes. jim actually ran against me for leader in 2018.

it was a hard fought battle. but i never once questioned his skills or commitment to this conference or this country. after the race i became leader and we had an opening for the ranking member on house oversight. jim didn't even apply for the job. i walked into steering, didn't tell steering, i walked in to the other room, and i picked up the phone and i called jim. i said i know you're not running for the job, but i believe in what jim collins says in the book "good to great," you put the right people in the right seats on the bus. and, jim, you and i may have challenged one another, but you were the right person for that seat. and it was right when he took that job. it was right again when i asked

jim to step up and join the intel committee when democrats put politics over people, and turned the intel committee into an impeachment committee. it was right again when we asked jim to step up and be the right person to lead judiciary committee as chairman. and jim is the right person to take that seat behind me to be our next speaker of the house. [ applause ] mr. speaker, we have an important job to do. the american people expect us to focus on the most pressing issues. we have watched what a democrat majority has done and brought inflation like we haven't seen since the '70s.

and now we have a war in israel. this country is too great for small visions. trust me, being speaker is not an easy job, especially in this conference. but i've seen jim spend his entire career fighting for freedom, no matter what, no matter the odds, and i know he's ready for the job. and so it is my honor to say as a member of the republican conference i'm directed by the vote of that conference to present for the election to the office of speaker of the house of representatives the name of my friend, the honorable jim jordan, a representative from the state of ohio. i yield back. [ applause ]

>> the chair now recognizes the gentlewoman from massachusetts, miss clark. >> thank you, mr. chair. 212, it is a new york area code. and it is our call for a speaker of integrity, intelligence, and inclusion. 212 is our call for a speaker who will protect our children, our veterans, our planet. 212 is our call for a speaker who will grow the middle class, lower costs, create good paying jobs, and make healthcare affordable. 212 is our call for a speaker who will secure liberty, justice, and opportunity for everyone. well,