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the multiple red flags. >> keep an eye on him. he's got a firearm on him. >> he is armed with more than one handgun. >> an ar-15 with him. a shotgun. >> to see a cold blood is not really what captured there and that driveway. >> josh and amber were there. i was like oh my god no. >> sounds like it was premeditated. >> they had no idea it was coming their way. >> there were experiences in the door. they blocked the door. >> it sounds like a commando operation. >> straight out of the military. >> it still feels like -- . >> i blame myself for everything. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> the story about young couples and their children, their tangled relationships is so disturbing you might

question what kind of creatures where you humans are. you've been forewarned. >> we have a lot of strange cases in the course of day one. but this one has a chilliness to it that is just unmatched. >> it's something you don't usually hear about. >> the trip into the darkness actually begins on a sunny fall day. october 27th, 2018. and the sleepy town of sodus, and way upstate new york. tiffany fare was headed out to the grocery when her two years old got fussy about what they were eating. >> we went to the kitchen to grab gummy bears. some neighbor talking with a gentleman outside. didn't think any of it thing of it. >> her neighbor josh, leaving against his truck seemed in deep conversation with someone she did not recognize. josh's girlfriend, amber, pulled into the driveway. tiffany reach for the gummy bears. and that's what he heard it. a gunshot. >> i turned back out my kitchen wendell and i say josh grabbed

his chest. and amber at that point had the g. a. r. in reverse. and right as she was going past the shooter, he turned and shot a right in the head. >> tiffany threw herself on top of her child, carl to her front door and bolted the lock. more shots followed. pop pop pop. too many to count. >> shots just kept ringing out. it was crazy. she called 9-1-1. >> as it turned out, the county surgeon sheriff matt car was supervising just a few hours away. he was dispatched to the scene. >> immediately, i had people coming at me. >> and these are neighbors. these are not? >> at that time, i'm hoping their neighbors. i'm not really sure who people are. >> it took the sergeant a moments to get his bearings. but for him, those images would be seared in forever. there was the homeowner, the victim, josh. half under the truck where he tried to take cover. he had been shot multiple times. amber, his girlfriend, was dead,

draped over the center console of her car. which had come to rest in the driveway across the street. >> this is a gruesome thing you've come upon? >> absolutely. >> you have two dead and a pretty quiet neighborhood. >> absolutely. one of the worst things i've ever seen. >> as the sergeant approached -- car, he found something as unexpected as it was cruel. poised in a car seat, right behind the murder mom was a child. very much alive. josh and embers four year old son. >> i can honestly say i still see the child in the backseat, rubbing his four-piece chicken mcnuggets. i can see it vividly. >> academy in the streets don't really prepare you for that kind of a? mitch >> know it does. not >> to sergeant did the best to comfort the boy as he waited for his fellow officers to respond. the neighbors, witnesses now, we're telling the officers that they had seen the shooter. black sweatshirt, green hat. stripping away through backyards. >> police officer, anyone in there. come out now. open up. >> a manhunt was underway for an apparently, stone cold

killer. >> -- >> robert was aside as the lead detective on the case. >> we had no idea, immediately, where that person had gone. we had a general direction. when the calls first coming out and i parts of the operation was to shut down the school, which was nearby. so the central school district was immediately put into lockdown. >> so you're hoping this is all there is. you don't want it but who knows? >> right. >> do you look down the neighborhood? is that possible? >> we had made some phone calls to the neighborhood, to reverse 9-1-1. or and they -- revel aren't. and neighborhood calls are made to the prize people, to shelter in their homes. >> here comes the canine. anybody inside should be coming out. you will get a bit. >> canines who are brought in for the street to street search. police set up ahead of qatar. >> we were checking houses, barnes, sheds. houses that people alerted us

to. they wanted them checked. >> you didn't see anyone run through here at all? >> in the command center, early on. what was the theory that they had here? >> we thought we had still somebody contained inside the perimeter as it was expanded. >> you thought the shooter was on the ground there? >> yes. maybe hold up in a building or a car. or outbuilding. something like that. >> anybody running through here? >> meanwhile, news of the shooting was already out there on social media. josh's sister, nicole, first learned about it on facebook. her spirits slumped when she saw the name of the street where it happened. >> i called 9-1-1 and said, that's near my brother's house! and the operators said, well what your brother's name? she said the josh. but she said that i have no information frio, but a couple get a hold of. you >> know good? >> now my head sank. >> the police did call, but they reach josh's parents first. his mom, bob narwhals. >> she goes, there's been a

shooting and it involves your son. i think she said he passed away or something. and i just broke down. i kept saying no, not my josh. can't be my josh! what about amber? and she said, she is gone too. and i was like, oh my god no! and i lost it. >> she then had to tell her or other children. josh's two brothers, and his younger sister amanda. >> my mom was calling me. and instantly i knew something was not right. just from her cry. it was almost like a scream. and i kept yelling at her, mom, what? what? and she was like josh, it was josh. and she was like, amber too. josh an amber. they are dead. so, i wanted to do something. i tried to leave, iran out of the house. i want to go save them. but i can't. >> as josh and embers families

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amber sister, angel lynn, got the voice mail from their dad. >> he said, call me. i have some really hard news. and the urgency, and the pain in his voice. was just, it was just the most difficult thing to hear. i know at that point what had happened. and i'm still thinking, i'm, like you know. maybe she still alive. maybe they are still alive. and, my brains going. but there was two people dead. you know. >> amber's parents, christened marcia, had not only lost their daughter. but we're now worried about. just bruner. their grandson who had witnessed the shooting. >> obviously the first thing is where is my grandson? where was he? because he knew the time. around 2:00 we knew that was when she would be getting home with him from school. you know, they told us that he was in the backseat of the car. but he was okay. >> okay physically but presumably in shock. and otherwise unable to shed light on the crime. four year old josh junior had been diagnosed with autism in his nonverbal. >> he's right in the backseat in his kid seat right? >> yes.

he's done everything we know he did. >> there's a gun coming through the window. >> see anything at all? >> as the manhunt continued in sodas, they puzzled over the killings. they could not figure out who would want to harm josh and the innocent amber. >> i had no clue whatsoever. you know thoughts. no suspicions. i was completely clueless. >> it didn't appear to be a home invasion gone wrong or anything like that? >> now. no. but it sounded like it was premeditated. from the little bits and pieces that we could gather for the first couple of days. >> 24 year old amber, with her love of gardening, and professional bakery job. seemed an unlikely target. >> she was as such a sweet old soul. she was kind, she was easy to get along with. everyone liked her. >> josh's parents, jane and barb. thought the same thing about their son. josh had no enemies that they knew of.

his family says that he was just a hardworking guy with a player for cooking. he picked up a few things at his dad's restaurant growing up. >> we brought him under our wing and he became a right-hand man. >> and he was around the kitchen by the end of things? >> he was great. >> in fact, josh had been putting a nice life together for himself. and her business was taking off. and just that week, he told his mom that he and amber were thinking about making it official. >> he says yeah, we're thinking about finally getting their. and i'm like joshua? >> they were doing pretty well there. >> wonderful. brought a new house. getting their lives started. he had a long care business that he was starting up. >> they were on their own. >> everything is going? up >> everything is going up. >> josh and amber were especially devoted parents to. his mom remembers with affection, the lighthearted way that he had told her that josh junior was on the way. >> i got up to make my coffee. like i always do. and there's an envelope right in front of my coffee. and it says mom, dad. so i take it down, and i open

it up and there is an ultrasound picture and a baby bib and some, boys are from heaven. or something. and i went, what? >> major grandson? >> yeah. yeah. so i texted him, do you have something to tell me? >> maybe it came with some difficulties. would've been a challenge for some parents. >> he was probably a year and a half, two years old before we realized. >> he was on the spectrum. >> artistic? >> yeah. >> how did they deal with? it >> made the doubt very well. >> i didn't know how my brother would react to having a special needs. it didn't faze him. he is a normal kid to him. an amber was wonderful with him. carefree with him. he could have a fifth, and she would just giggle and go about her business like it didn't

upset her or anything. >> but josh junior wasn't the only child in their lives. josh and amber were also loving parents to two children from josh's previous relationship. because of the agreement had given josh an amber the summer months to care for them. >> did it matter to your sister that the new boyfriend, josh, came with kids already? that he had a long term relationship? >> no. amber always loved kids. she did fantastic with mike heads. and she wore it well. >> josh's ex girlfriend, and mother to the children. is a woman named charlene childers. she gave amber the stamp of approval for being such a loving second mom. >> were you okay with her being around your children? >> yeah. i was actually pretty, i was fined with amber being around my kids because she took them in as, they were her own. and, she loved my children. >> charlene lived in texas, some 1600 miles away. >> how do you find out? >> i got home from work on monday the 22nd of october. and i start looking at facebook, and i saw the news articles of shootings in sodus. she wanted news of her children. >> in that moment, they were in new york with josh and amber. luckily, they were in school.

out of harm's way. she called josh's mom. >> charles leans on the phone? >> yeah. she called me. she said she heard. and, i just told her. somebody killed josh! ♪ ♪ ♪ >> charlene hit the road from texas, as the detective was trying to get a handle on the crime scene. he was shocked by the sheer awfulness of it. with a wounded, but still alive charge have to witness his girlfriend's execution. >> so even though josh's shot. he is aware that his girlfriend is in peril here? >> yes. >> probably seize her get shot? >> yes he does. i had witness accounts tell us he was yelling for her. >> and then multiple shots as he tries to crowd recover under vehicle and doesn't make? it >> correct. >> this is a horrible crime? >> yes. it was perhaps the one of the worst i've ever seen. >> when you say cold blood, it doesn't really capture what

happened in their driveway? >> now. >> from everything the detective was saying, it was a very personal crime. >> there was several casings on the ground that told us that whoever wanted him dead was to make sure there was no chance that he was going to win. >> josh had been shot ten times. a message killing, but one delivered by home? coming up. >> we were afraid for our families. we don't know the reason. we don't know who did this. >> a mysterious figure. >> there's a couple of different videos of a person, matching the description of what the witnesses had seen. walking down the sidewalk towards josh and amber's home. >> a mask on the ground. >> did you worry then, we've got a hoodie wearing gunman in the neighborhood killing people? >> i was scared to just be home. just me in the kids. it was scary. >> when dateline continues!

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the scene. >> we tracked into a parking lot. >> that makes sense right? this is probably where the shooter judge the car? >> ice himself. yes. >> schools -- residents were told it was safe to go outside again. nonetheless, caution embers loved ones remained paralyzed with fear. >> we were afraid for our families. because we don't know the reason. we don't know who did this. we are just constantly being vigilant. looking around. >> the tentacles of this go out in some way that we have no idea? >> right. who knows. >> a slower paced, more tedious shoe investigation became the order of the day. >> knocked on every door. knocked on every neighbor's door. we. >> did you get in the nuggets? anything? >> a little bit. with certain, home surveillance systems. that other people out have their. we are able to get people of interest on video. >> so a person appears before the time of the shooting i believe right? >> that's correct. there's a couple different videos of a person, matching

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-- . >> would it come up with dna? meanwhile, investigators reveal the statement the neighbor had given them about what she had seen at the kitchen window. she said that based on body language, charge seem to know his killer. >> the gentleman was standing at a picnic table. and josh, for some reason, had pulled his truck up next to the picnic table. and he was leading up against the tail end of his truck. just nonchalantly, sitting there talking. >> detectives needed to do a little bit more digging into the life of josh niles. they conducted an interview with his family. >> we were at nichols, the police came to see as personally there. >> did you have anything for them? >> i had no idea at first. i couldn't even imagine who would want to do this to him. >> josh's sister amanda thought, it must be a burglary. >> maybe someone did try to rob him or, wrong time. >> did you worry then, we have gotta herding wearing gunman in the neighborhood killing

everyone? >> yes. i was terrified to be home. with me in the kids. watch out the window. a little scary. >> is that wondered if it was a case of mistaken identity. >> we thought maybe, he is a new homeowner. maybe someone thought, this guy that was bad. that lived there before. josh. let's go do something. >> nothing -- >> no. not at all. >> i couldn't think of anyone who wanted to kill my son. and his beautiful girlfriend. it just didn't even seem real. >> detectives also wanted to speak to josh's acts, charlene childers. they first reach the mother of two of the children as she had been driving in from texas into the city. >> this is what you hear on the. for >> what do you think? >> i think i've got a quiet little southern belle is while she put herself on the phone.

>> to mirror? >> very dim air. very cooperative. >> but she had an unladylike venting to do for josh. >> she had given us a little bit of information that she had had a problem with josh in the past. that there were several police reports. >> charlene told us some of what she shared with the police. she said that despite charges sunny demeanor, and covert here could be a terror. he masked his anger issues with drugs. >> he was fine as long as he had as part, as long as he had as mayor wanted to smoke. other than that? >> he was tranquil. >> yeah. if he didn't, things got bad if things didn't go's way, the things he wanted them to. things got bad. and when i said bad, i mean for me. >> she claims that judge that violence on more than one occasion. >> he threw a bar stool past arm nine month old daughter's head. >> this is like thrown a switch? all of a sudden he's a different guy? >> yeah. and you don't know what's gonna trigger him. and, it just, it went on. that entire day. he beat the crap out of me. and, the cops came. >> and you stayed? >> yes. >> is there a point where you're saying this isn't working out?

i like you, but it's not working out for the two of us. we're not meant to be together. >> there was. and i had left. and then, for some reason, i fell back into it. and, we ended up having another child. and then, about a year after that is when i just said i can't do it. >> according to police, charlene called the cops on josh several times. in one incident, he was arrested and pleaded guilty to unlawful imprisonment after charlene said that she tried to choke her. she said she was fired by the relationship, she went so far as the warren amber, his current girlfriend. >> unfortunately, i had to warn her and i was like. >> did you take her side and say look after this guy? >> yeah. i said be careful. >> about what? >> be very careful. he does have a temper, and i want you to get hurt like i did. >> anger, drugs, and a warning from the x. if what darlene was saying was true. it casts josh and his

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josh's acts, demanding justice as the news cameras rolled. >> whoever did it. has now made it to where my kids were all affected. and that's nothing that a kid should ever have to do. that's not something you ever want to find out. the most i have to say the y'all is that justice needs to be served. my kids need that closure. >> josh's family haven't seen much of charlene since the breakup. and truth be told, they hadn't missed her much. his sister amanda. >> what did you think of her amanda? >> at first i like her. she was nice, and, always smiley. seemed to make him happy. but as the years went on, you could see he was a very unhealthy relationship. >> when you say that, what are you talking about? >> they would always fight and back. are not getting along. >> the truth was told that sometimes she would call the cops on him? >> all the time. and she would call me and say charlene call the cops on me again. >> josh's sister said that charlene, not the brother, was the hothead in the relationship. an instigator with 9-1-1 on

speed dial. >> did anyone -- >> we've always pulled him aside and said, this is in a relationship. this is not how our relationship is supposed to be. you need to break it off. >> those two were like fire and water. they just couldn't be together. >> who got in his face? >> they were both good at it. but she like to pick up him. it was almost like she wasn't happy unless he was mad. >> doesn't sound like any way to get out a bed and go to work? >> no. >> everyone agreed that josh and charlene where better apart. and in recent years, with more than 1000 miles between them. he agreed on co-parenting apology into work. >> i have them during the school year, and he got it -- and every other christmas. >> still, the history of tension between them put charlene in the investigators crosshairs. >> while, we were very interested in charlene. and i had asked her to calm in when she got settled. to come in, and help us figure it out who had done this to her ex.

the father of her children. >> and very quickly, they were able to conclude one thing for sure. >> detective, were you able to rule out right away that she was not anywhere near the driveway that day? >> i believe, because of phone conversations that i had had with her. she was in fact, in texas on the day of the murders. >> so charlene wasn't the shooter. wasn't in new york on the day of the murder. but it turns out, she did have close ties to sodus new york. close ties there to a local guy. >> she also mentioned that on one of the phone calls, that she wanted her current boyfriend to come pick up the children. >> his name was casey. he lived in the town near sodus. josh and embers family members even remember him consoling her after the murders. all this though, unofficial murder. >> he was there the whole time we were doing vigils for my brother. and having getting togethers at our house. >> so here is a theory.

if charlene did in fact have this explosive relationship with josh. maybe her current boyfriend, this casey, had even the score by killing josh as a demented lovers gift. >> what role does he play in this? >> he plays a pity her vital role. >> police say that casey was a person of interest. he also had a scrape with the law. he and charlene dated when she was just 14 and he 19. >> they had known each other in the past. casey had actually been arrested in the past for having a relationship with charlene when she was under age. >> casey was on the list. someone detectives wanted to speak to and right away. >> we reached out to him, and brought him in for an interview. which he complied, 100%. and told us that he was just the boyfriend of charlie. and he didn't know anything about the shooting. >> but this was weird. after he left the sheriff's department. why was he bragging to his buddies about being investigated in a double homicide? >> we found out through some other people that he saw himself as celebrity status.

>> he was quite taken with the fact that he was what he called a suspect. we were just trying to put pieces of the case together. he called himself a suspect, and reach out to people who he hadn't talked to in years. to tell them that he was being a suspect. >> also unsettling. detective learned that casey was trying to off-load again. >> i'm guessing this guy is talking himself into a jam? >> he's talking himself into getting questioned again. that's for sure. >> and that happened? >> oh yes it did. >> coming up! >> police uncover new information about casey miller. >> he was actually trying to get rid of a gun. >> and they have a new question for charlie. how many men's too many men? >> well, there's casey miller. and then we find out, there is a husband, tim dean. >> and who is tim dean? >> tim dean is a former chief of police of sun ray texas. >> tim is your husband? casey's or boyfriend? you've got a complicated life.

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gunned down in their driveway, and laid to rest. now detectives working the murders were talking to a local guy who lived not far from the scene. casey, charlene's boyfriend. detectives learned something sketchy about him. >> he was actually trying to get rid of a gun. >> the gun in question was a glock, nine millimeter, semiautomatic pistol. thank and color. and cops knew it was the same caliber gun that killed josh and amber. and when detectives called casey back for more details about the handgun. he explained the weapons that story. his girlfriend, shortly, and who had been so quick to act mouth josh. he owned the pink lock. >> and charlene worked and private security? is that right? >> correct. she brought a handgun to new

york. >> but casey said it was all totally incident. she had a permit to kill the permit in texas, but not in new york state. and i hate to get up to sodas after the murders, she said she forgot to leave the gun at home. >> casey reached out to some of the people that he knew. and tried to get those who had permits to take care of that weapon for her. >> did the story of the peak gun sound a little fishy? maybe. but a ballistics test ruled out that block as the one who killed the couple. and casey had an alibi that checked out. he was at work when the shooting happened. >> he had a right to work on time. he was at work on the day of the shooting. >> but detectives weren't quite done with poking around in the life of josh's ex girlfriend, charlene. and they found out something quite curious. case we was her local boyfriend, but not the only man in her life. there was tim.

down in texas. >> well, there is casey miller. but then we find out there is the husband. tim dean. >> who's tim dean? >> tim dean is the former chief of police of summer, in texas. >> tim is your husband? >> yes. >> casey's or boyfriend? >> yes. >> you don't need me to tell you of a complicated life charlene? >> no. i know it. >> a complicated life that was of keen in stressed to investigators. it went like this. long after charlene broke up with josh, she met husband, tim. this was when they both worked for the texas police department. charlene was the animal control officer there. and tim, a sergeant. charlene says she foul for terms are shots demeanor. >> he was a cowboy. he wore the cowboy hat. he had the cowboy boots. he had the old-school manners. >> why did that work for you? why at that point in your life? >> because. that's how i was raised. he reminded me of my dad. he played the guitar, just like my dad did. >> but not long after they got married. it all took a turn for the worst. tim dean had a three year old daughter from a previous marriage. he got in serious trouble after

he was videoed slapping the child across the face. >> so what was the incident? >> he was accused of abusing his three year old daughter. >> his own daughter? >> his own daughter. >> and charlene is recorded-ing it on the phone or something? >> charlene recorded the incident on the phone. and that ends of getting out to show of her friends. and. that is forwarded to the authorities. and they conduct an investigation in texas. >> as a result, police chief been lost custody of the young girl. and because he was living in the same house was darlene's two kids, with josh. child protective services in texas alerted josh. turns out, he was already on his way to texas to pick up his kids for the summer. >> they got a call from cvs. >> child protective services? >> the agency in texas. >> you have to go get your

kids. they said, i'm on the way to get the kids. what's going on? they said i'll tell you when you get here. >> what was the -- >> i think he was scared for his children because he did not know what was going on. >> so josh took to get to the summer as planned. and decides to file for for custody. before the summer was over, a judge in new york ruled in his favor. that the kid should stay with him. and not go back to charlene and him in texas. this was just a few months before the murders. charlene had lost her kids, and it hit her hard. >> this is a huge setback for you though charlie? you've lost the kids. >> yes it is. it angers me. and frustrates me. and. >> is it angered of directed at the state? is it aimed at josh? is it aimed at him? who in a way got you into all of this? >> honestly. it seems that everybody. >> but she had a plan, convince the family courts that she was

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this. who lives here? what goes on here? >> small town america. farming is predominantly. except for up here, they have the oil refinery. >> i saw refineries. i saw pump jacks coming in. >> pump jacks. >> and wind farm? >> when pharmacists. taking over. >> the reason we went four to sun ray's because it's the town where charlene's husband served as the chief of police. the department had just three officers. >> what's the mission of being a small police of this are in a town like this? >> narcotics are a haven for small town america. >> really? >> so that's your chronic pain problem? >> theft. and narcotics. >> -- new charlene's husband quite well. he'd hired him years earlier, and was happy to talk when new york police called asking about his history. >> tell me about his guy. who did you meet?

>> tim came in. he appeared to be a train-able individual. that's what we were looking for. >> did he have a fire in his belly for law enforcement? thinking about it since he was a kid? >> he was working in a police update department with the academy. did not work out for him. so he applied to do miss. >> a few years later, dean got the top job. but that uniform job ended as quickly as a slap to the face of his three year old dollar. the rangers looked at that smartphone incident taken by his wife, and promptly arrested him. tim resigned his position with the police. >> goodbye police chief job? >> for him. yes. >> that's gotta be a shocker right away. police chief is arrested, is out of office, because of child abuse allegations? >> yes. yes. at that point, things start going south for him. >> with his job gone. the state taking away his daughter. and charlene's two kids as well. plus a pending divorce. tim dean's life was in a

tailspin. >> he actually had to move out and move to a house. >> he's out of his job, away from his kid. out of the house? >> yes. >> and now, new york investigators were wondering if that tailspin had led to a very dark act. a double homicide. >> it was kind of a shock. why are we thinking? this why are we thinking tim? >> here is why it is just a theory. if losing custody was the reason that charlene was divorcing him. maybe tim dean had a reason to what and josh and amber dead. maybe he could save his marriage, if he helped charlene get his kids back. one way to do that? kill their dad, josh. courts would have no choice but to return the kids to the mom in texas. >> their question, is this guy, timothy dean, our guy in the driver with a gun? >> exactly. >> is this it? >> exactly. so we try to piece it together. >> they obtained a warrant for the cell phone records. squirrel through, it found something intriguing. two days before the murders. tim dean wasn't at home in texas. he was 400 miles away in

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>> yeah. try to turn around out here. >> you just made a big flip around? >> yeah. we don't really do that around here. as you see why. >> yeah. >> the deputy requested a tow. then asked him where he was headed. >> honestly man, i was just driving. my whole life is kind of gone to -- lately. more or less living out of my car. >> but you had money to get a rental? >> yeah. i still work. just off this weekend. >> you don't want to take your car? >> my car, the starter is acting up on it. >> oh. >> cops like asking questions. and tim dean apparently liked answering them. >> so you're just driving around kansas from texas her? >> yeah. >> the body cam was still rolling as they chatted in the patrol car. it started to sound like dr. phil. >> so where is your wife? >> she's at home. >> that you said you didn't have a home. >> well, when you have a pending divorce and all that fun stuff. yeah that's mine.

>> pending divorce,? is that why you are out driving around instead of at home? >> yes sir. >> that bad? >> yeah. like i said, it's all gone to -- . >> he told the officer about losing not just his wife. but also his job. >> i work for frito-lay now. used to be a cop. >> where were you a cop? >> you must first. and then sunday. >> why do -- >> well it has not the da. >> that can happen. >> i was, tackling some pretty big public corruption cases. ended up with a target on my back. and, got arrested by the texas rangers on a -- charge. >> the officer did not know that this conversation would be looked at again later. he just knew that he was getting a weird vibe. >> that point that i was like, okay. this guy just said he had recently been arrested. after being a cop for ten years. why is he and kansas? what is going on? >> all right. if you would stay here. i've gotta take some pictures of the vehicle and stuff.

especially since it's insurance. they want more pictures than normal. is there anything in there and need to know about? >> no. i've got a shotgun in there but. nothing illegal. >> no drugs? or >> no. no. >> stolen guns or anything? right >> now. >> we'll hang tight here. i'll be right back. >> tim dean story was making the deputy twitch. he passed on his concerns to the backup officer, ron. >> keep an eye on him. he's got a firearm on him. he's got a concealed carry. getting a divorce from texas. just out driving around. >> from texas? >> yeah. >> the how is he doing here? >> well. that's what a minister pocono round the vehicle a little bit. >> at that point, i was like there was more than meets the eye here. but, i did not know what. >> this is my personal. >> soon they would learn a lot more about this disgraced police chief in the roadside ditch in kansas. in the middle of the night. >> coming up! >> -- >> we should have videos in the shop. >> they had video.

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