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>> that is it for this hour. i'm alicia menendez. i want to thank you for spending part of your sunday with. us be sure to follow the show across social media. our handle everywhere is at alicia on msnbc. i'll see here tomorrow for more american voices. for now, a hand it over to my colleague, ayman mohyeldin. hello. >> hey, alicia. thanks so much. good evening and welcome to ayman. tonight, some breaking developments in the israel-hamas war.
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some trucks carrying survive -- supplies have finally entered gaza. but -- it's not enough. palestinians are failing a country at a critical moment. they're disastrous handling of the speakership just let them back to the drawing board yet again. plus, flipped. two key trump allies have pleaded guilty in that georgia election case. now they're both cooperating with prosecutors. i'm ayman mohyeldin, let's get started. >> tonight, new developments in the israel-hamas war. this morning, 28 long-awaited humanitarian aid trucks finally entered the gaza strip. israel agreed to allow and the convoys carrying food, water, and medicine after intense pressure from the united states and other countries. it is a narrow lifeline for more than 2 million people trapped inside gaza. under constant bombardment from the israeli military forwo straight.
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weeks the gaza health ministry says, the convoy contains just 3% of what civilians need on a daily basis, and noting that el needed to run hospitals was not even included in today's deliveries. justice, not hamas released an american mother and her daughter, held hostage, which signaled that the militant group could be ready for negotiations. but today, hamas spokesperson -- said exchanging more captives would not be addressed until israel and its progression on gaza. today in israel, crowds of protesters including the loved ones of some hostages held up signs and chanted, demanding a cease-fire and the return of their family members. this was the scene just hours ago, in tel aviv outside israel's defense ministry. but that is in stark contrast to the focus of the israeli military, which said today plans have been approved to,
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quote, expand operational activities. this, after weeks of threatening a ground invasion. now as that ground invasion draws closer to reality, reaction from world leaders has been mixed, to say the least. today, jordan's king abdullah the second call the continued israeli bombing and gaza, quote, cruel and unconscionable on every level. this, week that u. n. security council failed to adopt that resolution that would have called for a cease-fire and goes up because of a veto from the united states. china's president xi jinping has called for a cease-fire and gaza. putin and xi meet days ago, seemingly to discuss their anti american alliance at this critical juncture. and back at home, president biden continued to show his unwavering support for israel. >> american leadership kept the whole world together. american alliances keep us safe. american values make us what american -- of our nations one work. with all that is at risk if we
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will get away from ukraine and her about what israel. it's just not worth it. >> biden's speech preceded of white house request for more than 105 billion dollars from congress, mostly for aid to ukraine and israel. and the president weaving an elaborate sieve -- the two countries are now at war. it's important to take a step back for a moment and acknowledge that under international law, israel occupies the palestinian territories, just as russia occupies parts of and sadly that israel-hamas war has already led to much more bloodshed, infect according to numbers from the office of the u. n. high commissioner for human rights, more palestinian children have been killed in the first week of the israeli hamas war than in the entire first year of russia's war in ukraine. nbc news correspondent ellison barber starts us off this hour, joining us live from the israel gaza border.
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great to have you with us. tell us a little bit about what you've been seeing and hearing. civilians and gaza have faced a tremendous amount of losses. israeli airstrikes continue, and this possible grand conviction element even closer. >> yeah, and as we've been standing here at the last couple of hours, ayman, we've seen that gaza skyline behind us light up orange at different points. we've heard artillery fire in the direction of gaza. we know throughout the day today, there were it right sirens in central and southern israel, as rockets were fired from gaza in the direction of those areas. at the same time, we know a number of missiles have been launched inside of gaza. one striking an area in a refugee camp about 6:00 in the morning. there was at least one home veer that was badly, badly damaged. our team inside gaza got video of the moments after that missile struck.
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people on the ground, they say it was and is really eerie strike. the idf has not commented, but at least one of the homes in that area that was hit hit a number of civilians inside. there was one woman, she came to this site as rescuers were searching through the rubble, hoping to find any signs of life. she waited in that area, because she knew one of those homes's were a lot of her family lived. she ultimately walked some two miles to a hospital, and there she found out that her mother, her father, her brother, her sister in law, and five nieces and nephews had died in that era strike. our team caught the moment she found all of this out. the devastation as she cried, screaming towards the sky, asking, what would you do this. i want you to hear some of that. and listen, this is something happening every single day like clockwork inside of gaza.
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this was the moment she found out she lost her entire family. listen. >> [speaking in a global language] [crying] [crying] >> we expect that grunt offensive into gaza took place any day. it military leaders have been saying it's been known for quite awhile. but the two have everything in position to laun t assault on the northern part of gaza. they've said they will focus their efforts and that north and on kansas city, just a couple of days ago ayman we
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heard israel's defense minister speaking to an infantry troops have gathered along the israel gaza border, telling them, we have seen gaza from the outside, soon you will see it from the inside. a man? >> nbc's ellison barber starting us off this evening. thank. you join me now are daniel levy, president of the u. s. middle east project and aaron david miller, senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace. daniel, i'll start with you. we have been saying this for now for several days, eminent. you just tell my colleague they're saying it. but i juxtapose that with what is happening beyond israel's borders. that release of two american hostages, the delivery of not enough aid but nonetheless aid into gaza today. and this caro peace summit. is there any reason to believe that maybe something is happening behind the scenes? not so transparently that could perhaps delay this? >> i think -- should not be
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overly focused on whether or not they will be a ground invasion because we just saw the heartbreaking scenes of palestinian family and gaza, on top of the heartbreaking scenes of what happened on october 7th. but every day, there is this terrible loss and destruction now in gaza. and that's going on without a crime invasion. in fact, a grant invasion my will complicate israel's military mission. and lead to is really losses. the way i think the ground invasion could really matter is, could that have the impact of a broader escalation, not only in the palestinian arena, in the west bank, where over 80 palestinians killed, more than 1000 arrested -- also more regionally. with perhaps something happening with hezbollah. it's important to keep went eyes on, that but not to lose focus on what's happening already. yes, eight trucks went in but that was just over 20.
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normally there would be 850 a day. that's only 2. 5% off the needs of gazans. and this interesting release of two americans being held in gaza last night, i think that has impacted the calculation, impacted the israeli room for movie, because it shows there is an opportunity to get these people out and it's starting at little to shape the public pandemic. it's something to work with here. something to work with on the humanitarian, personalities. but we've got the deltas down and get a cease-fire. >> interesting point, you took a bit of pressure putting up. aaron, i think you know this better than others. i want to share with you some of the reporting from axios. president biden is taking this dual approach, if you will, to the gaza crisis. publicly he is standing strongly and firmly behind prime ministernetanyahu. he's embraced him in every sense of that word and what israel's doing.
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in public, or rather, excuse, me and private the, it seems according to this reporting, he's signaling more constrained approach, at least, that's what the reporting suggests. and i want to get your thoughts. is that the right approach to try to do it with israel? or should there be a more forceful, public approach from the u. s. to restrain israel, given what we're seeing play out over the past two weeks? >> the frame the president sit initially in his october 10th speech seemed to send that message, the is -- administration was prepared to give israelis the time, and support to do what they needed to do in gaza. that uncertain at this point. since that, time in the last ten days or so, i think the messaging from washington both and respect to an adherence to international humanitarian -- proportionality -- casualties -- has added that to the public frame. and i also believe, if the
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reporting is to be believed, and i suspect it, is that the president is urging restraint, caution, and perhaps if the reports tonight are to be believed, delay, the imminence of the ground campaign. i think, in part, it's to test the proposition that, in fact, there may be additional time to negotiate for or to release hostages. let's be clear, hamas is playing a very cruel game here. there are under tremendous pressure qatar, as you know, hosts hamas leadership in doha and his subsidize them for the past several years, anywhere from three to $10 million a month to keep calm and stability and gaza. when to speak, hamas at least has to take that and to account. so i think hamas is under pressure to change the frame of her image, following this savage and brutal 24 hours
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following october 7th. but i also think that they are playing. maybe he'll buy time, but in some respects psychological warfare. you know, the issue of separating the americans from the israelis is reminiscent, in the minds of many israelis, of what happened in -- when the pflp and german rascals separated the jews and israelis from the other foreign nationals on the difference -- so i think it's pressure. and propaganda. whether it's going to pay any real divisions to me is unclear. >> let me, just because president biden invoked both ukraine and israel in his prime time speech this country. i want to take a moment to play for you a soundbite from the president of the european commission regarding the
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ukraine russian war. take a listen to this. >> targeted attacks on civilian infrastructure with a clear aim to cut off man, woman, children, of water, electricity, and heating, with the winter coming, these are acts of pure terror. and we have to call it as such. >> aaron, i'll start with you. is it difficult for the world to listen to the europeans and americans, trying to galvanize support for israel when you have had such a force -- forceful condemnation about that. but what israel does at war of the palestinians, it's crickets on that front, two weeks on. nothing is forceful as a statement. >> the frame, look, let's be clear. we have a special relationship with the state of israel. we make allowances, excuses, justification's on any number of issues when it comes israel. i don't buy, i mean, i understand the power and logic
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of ukraine versus russian occupation, -- i just don't buy it. russian aggression against ukraine's, willful intentional, aggrandizement, willful kill, and purposeful killing of civilians, taking hundreds of children, kidnapping them, taking them hostage, broke needn't back to russia. genocide has been used as well and from the ukrainian perspective, the idea of stifling and -- ukraine as a coherent policy is cultural genocide and many respects. but, you might not like it or whatever you do, the israelis have been a close ally of the u. s. for a long time. u. s. and israeli interests do not coincide these days. on many interests. and the value proposition is uniting israel and united states is a consequence of that netanyahu government efforts to
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essentially erode and undermine israeli democracy in israel. i understand the problems of the occupation and contradictions opposes. but i'm not sure of his much to compare. certainly in this case. hamas launches us average, brutal attack, borrowing a page out of the islamic state. indiscriminate killing, torture, rape, willful taking of hostages boasted and alive, i might, add in order to trade him for palestinian prisoners and israel's. there are many contradictions -- many anomalies and perhaps a lot of hypocrisy. but on this particular issue, i don't see the comparison. >> anthony, i want to give you a chance to respond to that, and how that impacts their reaction from the arab world. on one hand, the arab world has looked to the way the united states has galvanized support for ukraine, and this has become, i would argue, just based on this last week, a touch point between the global north and the global south.
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that is playing out in this conflict. >> well, i think that it is important that this is not just about the arab world. as you said, no two situations are identical. but when people look at israel 's systematic violation of international law and international humanitarian corps, which didn't begin as a response to something horrendous that happened on october 7th, it is not just the crimes being committed against the civilian population in gaza, it is not good enough to say anything that happens to palestinians in gaza happens because of what hamas didn't know, the israeli bombs, it is israel that is closed off the supply of water, fuel, food, electricity. but it is what proceeded that. the decades, and decades of occupation, of palestinians living without rights. living under an occupation that itself violates international law.
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the illegal settler population. no equality. so here, we have a situation, the world looks at this and, it is important to listen to those features that were given in cairo today. and the cost america, with america's allies, someone who seems very credible in america, in israel, the king of jordan says you applied one standard of immediate, unequivocal accountability, in one situation, referring to ukraine quite clearly, and not in the situation. everyone should go and listen to this speech of the jordanian king, when america has to deploy its veto. it chooses to deploy its veto, but the u. n. security council, i think the rest of the world has been listening to an america that has been wrapped in this self righteous narrative of rules based order for the last year and a half, on that podium, and they see america today, and it really reaffirms the suspicions that they had all along.
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so i think that this is costly to america, and i just hope that we do not return to ignoring those root causes because anyone who believes that you can militarily -- and live in security is not doing a service to israel, and of course, not the palestinians. >> we are going to talk a little bit more about that speech that took place in cairo today, daniel levy, aaron david miller, thank you to the both of you. greatly appreciated as always. coming, up we will switch gears, a look at politics and the u.s. at the moment. republicans, an absolute disarray after nearly three weeks, the house still does not have a speaker, and jim jordan has no end to blame that himself.
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>> so, the third time was not exactly a charm for jim jordan, nbc news has now learned that the conservative demagogue is no longer the speaker doesn't need following a secret republican ballot that was held behind closed doors on friday. this came just hours after opposition to jordan speaker bid, effectively grew during a third failed vote, and since then, several other candidates have now thrown their hats into the ring. members tell nbc news that candidates must submit their intention to run for speaker by sunday night, ahead of a candidate form on monday, and a possible vote osuna's tuesday. jordan's disastrous run could
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act as a guide of what not to do for this new crop of candidates over the last week, the ohio congressman's hardball pressure campaign on his gop colleagues, it seemed to backfire spectacularly. congressman steve will not accept that his staffers have been accused, or rather cussed out in phone calls from rdon supporters. and the wife of the congressman said that she received anonymous threatening texts pressuring her to persuade her husband to support jordan. but wait, it actually gets worse, congressman mariannette miller said that she received,, quote credible death threats, and a barrage of threatening calls after switching her vote to anotherepublican in the second round of voting. and despite those threats, miller, meeks, they all refused to back down. they stood their ground. since donald trump's rise bullying and intimidation tactics have become the hallmarks of the maga republican playbook, these members displayed something exceedingly rare within the republican party, at least for
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now, it seems like they have a backbone. here to discuss this, the chief strategist for the bush, cheney presidential campaign and now an msnbc political analyst. i want to get your reaction to both this caucus decision to ditch jim jordan, and the crop of candidates that have emerged since. nothing very promising, i have to say. >> it does not surprise me at all, because you have a caucus that is filled with performance artists who have no interest in governance. so, when you go in search of leadership, it is a bunch of people that wants to post things on twitter, want to say outrageous things, but have no interest in leaving or governing. so, when you look forward, it is a team looking for a quarterback, and they have no system with quarterbacks and it. we have no farm system with real quarterbacks, and they
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have no farm system that people interested in governing, so they end up where they are. >> for me, it is not about the candidates, per se, it is about the ideological divides. because you will have these same camps produced different candidates, but still, represent these ideological divides that seem to be,, now irreconcilable within the republican party. is that a wrong assessment? that it doesn't matter if it is jim jordan, matt gaetz, there's just not going to be somebody from that ideological, maga wing of the party. or that extreme maga win of the party who will win some of these. >> i agree with that if you define ideology, not in terms of stands on issues but in terms of whether or not you have the capacity or want to govern, and whether or not you believe in actually the benefits of government. and i think that that is the real divide. there is a small, tiny segment that seems, in the gop caucus, that is still interested in why they got elected, which is to govern. but the majority of the caucus has no interest in governing. and that is the real ideological divide, it is people that don't believe in
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democracy, which is the majority of the gop caucus, who do not believe in governance, and a tiny, tiny group that still believes in those things, and that is why you end up here. so, the ideology is not based on issues as we normally understand them. it is based on broad global things -- like just the capacity to govern. >> it couldn't even get them to acknowledge that the election in 2020 was not stolen. that joe biden actually won. it let me play for you, ken buck describing the price you had to pay for his no votes against jim jordan. >> so far i had for death threats, have been evicted from my office in the -- in colorado, i had a notice of eviction because the landlord is mad with my voting record on the speaker issue. and everybody in the conference is getting this. so, it is natural. family members have been approached and threatened. >> i mean, i've gotta say, i mean, i'm not a communication
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expert here, you certainly are, you have done the messaging, you are the chief strategist for the presidential campaign. i've gotta say, aggressive messaging and death threats, probably not a good way to shore through support. >> well, eamonn, it has become the standard in the republican party since the arrival of donald trump. in the midst, i mean, just look at what we have had. it does not surprise me that we have ended up in this place, where members of the gop house are getting death threats and under threat of violence in the course of this. and all of the things that they are suffering just because they are standing on the ground. this is a party that seemed to encourage or even facilitate an insurrection at the capitol. and so, when you have a party where this virus of violence and hate seems to have just steeped in and gone all over the place, this is the result of. it and really, it is the result that i think came on the same time with donald trump. i can tell you, when i started criticizing donald trump in 2016 and 2017, i received death threats. i was contacted by the fbi in the midst of all of that stuff. so, unfortunately, and
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disgustingly, this seems to be where we are as a country. and the republicans are receiving it, i feel for them, but i also think that part of them enabled this to get to this point and now we are suffering the repercussions of it. >> matthew, please stick around, we will talk to you just after the break but we will discuss this double plea deal in georgia and the specifics of the election case and how they could impact donald trump, stay with us. ♪ i'm gonna hold you forever... ♪ ♪ i'll be there... ♪ ♪ you don't... ♪ ♪ you don't have to worry... ♪ it ain't my dad's razor, dad. ay watch it! it's from gillettelabs. this green bar releases trapped hairs from my face... gamechanga! ...while the flexdisc contours to it. so the five blades can get virtually every hair in one stroke. for the ultimate gillette shaving experience. the best a man can get is gillettelabs. >> tech: when you have auto glass damage, trust safelite.
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trump's loss in georgia. and the move came just hours after jury selection began in his scheduled trial. chesbrough is one of the architects of the fake electors plot, claiming that mike pence could reject state electors during the certification process on january the 6th. chesbrough's guilty plea came just one day after former trump attorney, sydney powell, also pleaded guilty. she pleaded guilty to six misdemeanor counts of conspiracy to commit election interference. according to the january 6th committee, paul was part of a now infamous december 2020 oval office meeting where she suggested that donald trump could use the u.s. military to seize voting machines across the country. of course, powell threatened to then release the kraken on voter fraud, only to find a bunch of frivolous lawsuits that did absolutely nothing to change the outcome of the election. joining me now is jessica levinson, msnbc columnist and loyola law school professor, matthew dowd is back with us. jessica, i will start with you. let me play for you what sydney powell told the judge when she pleaded guilty.
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take a listen. >> are you pleading guilty today because you agree that there is a sufficient factual basis? >> i did. >> two words. very simple. i do in regards of the evidence to support the facts of this case. it's got to be pretty damaging for anyone to, here especially donald trump, is this the most damaging thing that we have heard from anyone in this case so far? that there is evidence to prove that what they are alleging is in fact true? >> we have heard a lot of damaging things, i mean, the complaint, let's be honest, was pretty damaging. and what is already in the public record, what we have already seen with our own eyes, you mentioned all of this frivolous lawsuits and the fake elector scheme, there's a lot of damaging information here. but i think that you're exactly right to zero in on sydney powell, the fact that she has now pled guilty and that as part of this plea deal, she will testify against the other codefendants. or she will testify in those, presumably against them, so for the former president, i think that there is no way to spin this other than it being bad
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news. because you have somebody who advised him, who will now say i engaged in criminal conduct, and she was there as you mentioned, for a white house meeting. she can also speak to what she heard from the former president, what she said to him, the only way that i think that this is potentially a win for the former president is that he's not going to see a preview. i think he wanted to see a preview of fani willis's case and now he will not see this as a result of the plea deals. but overall not good news for him. >> so, matthew, chesbrough, and powell make the -- they round out the other one. the bill bondsman, scott, who makes three now individuals who have flipped on the president. how do you think trump is handling this news that someone who, in the past, has hated anyone flipping, and has said that flipping should be illegal? >> yeah, they usually don't like people to flip, that is usually the case and this.
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i think that donald trump is like if you think about this like tony soprano, he has held up somewhere, and now many of his underlings have flipped in there are about to testify in the case, as jessica said, likely against him in the course of this. they've already admitted to certain facts sets in this that they had, there was enough facts and evidence -- to take a plea bargain in the course of this. so my guess is, when he's got former people that were lawyers, rolling up on folly willis's side on this, he is a nervous, nervous person, and it is a classic case, in my view, classic case, of when you do these massive conspiracy cases, to get the underlines and under bosses to roll up, it is only pointing in one direction. to donald trump.
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>> jessica, how much do these plea deals affect the landscape of this georgia trial for the remaining 15 co-defendants, these are people in the network of the picture, if you will, that they were trying to paint on trump's big lie in his inner circle. how do you think it affects the others? perhaps the more less known individuals that were indicted? >> i think that it is effected deeply. as matt said, this is one of those cases where everything about this case is not typical in the sense that we are talking about a former president of the united states. but we have seen cases that involve r. i. c. o. charges, for instance, and what you do see, it's what we are seeing here. the guilty pleas start, and then, the dam breaks. and you see more people who feel like they're under more pressure, and they are looking to the prosecution, and they are saying what is my deal? so, you ask about lesser known people, but i cannot stop thinking about people like rudy giuliani, or mark meadows, and let's remember that this case, this georgia case, it is very similar in some respects.
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at least factually, to the federal case involving election interference. so these are people who could help provide documents, and testimony to federal prosecutors as well. you said how does the legal landscape change? i think that it looks a lot worse for the former president today than it did if we were having this conversation last week at this time. >> and it might even change more so depending on how others consider their future now that these two have flipped. matthew dowd, thank you so much, jessica levinson, please stick around, we will talk to you in our second hour coming up. but we are going to switch gears and pivot back to the israel-hamas war, to mothers share their struggles to protect their children. protect their children. you only turn 30 once. and jen z? her credit's golden.
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civilians caught in the crosshairs of the israeli hamas war. many of them children. we have the stories of two mothers trying to protect their own. >> she looks like any other mom on the playground but her and her two little sons have been through more than most.
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>> i had no way to tell anyone we were alive. everybody thought we were dead. >> when hamas burst through the gaza border, the village was one of their first targets. >> it was really a lot of bombs, and then we heard voices of terrorists, and gunshots, and then we understand, we understood that we have a terrorist. >> her family fled behind the steel door of their safe room. >> my husband held the handle 27 hours. >> unable to get inside, terrorists set fire to the house. >> we had water because i was breastfeeding him, and they didn't have milk because i didn't eat from the stress. and i didn't know what to do, because if i opened the door, we are all dying. if i don't open, just him. >> the family was rescued by israeli troops. their home, burned to ashes around them. >> they were shocked. they couldn't believe that anybody was alive in the house.
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>> just over the border in gaza, the endless thunder of israeli airstrikes. parents desperately trying to shield their children, but unsure where to run. >> we came to the east of gaza, and we didn't know where to go. >> her daughter, sophia, turned to in the first week of the war. this video from happier times. >> and guilty because she's living such a situation, and i can't even celebrate her birthday. >> the family fled their home
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in gaza city. >> there is no electricity, there is no food, there is no water, there's no medicine, there is no houses, the situation is getting harder, and harder, and harder every day. we are losing our lives. >> every day of war, snatching at her baby's innocence. >> sophia is always screaming because of the sounds of explosions. >> when the bombs are falling, what do you tell your daughter? >> big car. that is all i can reply to her. but she can recognize the sound. >> she is also making up a story for her son to explain the gunfire. >> we told him that we have a storm outside. so we can't go out. >> and also, noticing changes in her children. >> the oldest one is different, he's crying, and he is very sensitive, and he's always --
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you can see he told his friend that his house got destroyed. they ask him, your house is destroyed as well? >> on both sides of this war, moms just trying to keep their kids safe. >> our thanks to nbc's raf sanchez for that report. up next, the humanitarian crisis and aid as it has finally now entered gaza. groups on the ground saying that it is not enough. i will speak to the director of a u. n. agency overseeing refugee assistance.
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biktarvy can go with you. talk to your healthcare provider today. >> hours ago, u.n. agencies ordered a joint statement calling for a cease-fire in the israel, hamas war. and immediate unrestricted humanitarian access throughout gaza. this comes as united nations relief and works agency for palestine refugees in the near east released a new report saying more than 500,000 people in gaza are internally displaced, and taking shelter at facilities according to the palestinian minister of health, more than 4000 people have been killed in gaza since the start of the war. that was just two weeks ago. at least 17 personnel are among those killed. all of this comes after a small number of trucks carrying humanitarian aid finally arrived in gaza today, carrying food and medical supplies, but no fuel. joining me now to discuss, this is the director of philanthropy for the united nations relief and works agency usa.
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a group that serves palestinian refugees in the near east. it is good to have you with us. as i mentioned, you are in the united states, but your parents, your relatives, they are inside gaza, earlier this week you wrote that since october seven, everything that you hear, you see, and you dream, you feel, what is happening in gaza. just expand on those feelings for us for a moment? >> thank you for having me. there are dark clouds over our hearts and minds right now as we worry about our families. the tragedies, my wife's family also. and doing two different things -- my family is in the heart of the evacuation zone. and they are unable to leave. my in laws have moved to the south but regret that decision because of what is going around them, and the bombing, it is heartbreaking because as parents, we have to also monitor our emotions around our
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kids, and these are sensitive times. you know, it is very difficult to connect with family and, for example, i woke up to my phone buzzing and it is my mom telling me that they can't find my dad, because the market was bombed. five minutes later, she says okay, we found, him he is alive, but your sister in law, lost 12 members of her family, the whole household, the bloodline is gone. so there's a lot of those people, moments where we feel like every day it is getting closer, it is getting closer, and it is -- it doesn't make it any easier. you know, i work in philanthropy and try to generate some support for palestine and i try to support my colleagues who are really running for their lives trying to save palestine refugees, provide shelter, hygiene, but it has been difficult because in a way, many of us see ourselves as full-time palestinians. you know i, am a palestinian american, trying to raise my kids here but also my families under the fire, and the
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evacuation zone, and they cannot go anywhere says we don't have any properties, i have a sister right now who is in the hospital up north. she's only able to go there because they have electricity, and water. my sister up in the middle area, for some reason, she managed to go there and she is sending me these low quality images of cans of tuna they received today in gaza, which brings it back to the 20 food trucks they allowed in today. so it is really horrible, and i told my wife, this time i said this is the time that i see it. many, many times, this is the fifth or sixth the war right now, and i worry that, you know, we are going to lose somebody that we deeply love and care for. >> i can't even begin to imagine what you and others are going through but on top of that, as you mentioned, you are also trying to help. not only do you have to worry about your own family and your wife's family, but you're also trying to help.
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as we said, there are aid groups who have made it clear that these 20 trucks that crossed into gaza today, they are barely going to make an impact. i think it is something like 22, 000 bottles of water for 2 million people. just describe for us what is at stake here. how much time do we have left? >> this is exactly about 5% of what gaza needs right now. this is about 50 tons of material. and there is about 1000 more tons of food, supplies, water, flour, pasta, you know, canned beans, the important items that gaza needs right now, very few things, sadly are coming in, and the good news is that they are trying to give flower for free to the bakeries and help them to make sure that they could make bread at a low cost for the local community. obviously some people have whatever we have, but it is not
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looking good. i don't to make it sound like everybody is taking care, you know, obviously you want the bombs to stop. but also, you want to make sure that they receive health care that they need. my mom has hypertension and diabetes, you know? somebody has to find those medications for her. she has to go to another home, you know, always take everything with you. so we really want more supplies, and if you follow the news closely, one of the items that was shocking to me that gaza needed is burial cloth. there's a lot of shortages in gaza were hospitals were burying kids and families in plastic bags, and this is one item that it feels like, wow, you don't understand how major, how many civilians have been lost in this war, and those are the items that we need. we talked about two trucks of water, two trucks of tuna, and beans, and pasta, and 13 trucks of medical supplies. it has been depleted.
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the hospitals on the brink of collapse in gaza. and i don't know if that is in the interest of anybody. >> let me ask you really quickly, we have 30 seconds, your message to the world? the statement that president biden made this week, what do you think is missing, what do you think needs to be said? >> as a palestinian american -- we have not talked about civil rights, or the determination for the palestinians, and how we are working hard to prove our humanity. 50% of the population are under the age of 19 in gaza. those folks have not continued with anything, and yet the majority of the victims in that group, we need the war to stop, cease-fire is important. but we also need to bring in humanitarian aid in the absence of a political solution, we want to make sure that people have the medicine. we are not talking about, you know, hey, we want to have a computer, anything like that, we need water, flour, we need
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input to make sure that they eat so the risk of starvation is not -- it should not be on anybody's conscience right now. those are major crimes. >> thank you so much. i greatly appreciate it. i know how difficult it is for you and your family. i greatly appreciate your time and your
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