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♪ ♪ ♪ >> tonight, the house of representatives is entering week three without a speaker. eight candidates are now vying for the job, after one dropped out in the last hour. and right now, as we speak, republicans are meeting behind closed doors to figure out some kind of a path forward before an internal vote tomorrow. gotta hold your breath. after all the reports of screaming and cursing, some physical altercations in previous meetings, you can't really imagine what's going on in that room right now. we're gonna talk to some people who do know in just a moment. but if you are wondering out there why this matters and why we are still talking about this circus, well, the thing is, nothing can happen in congress. no new money for israel, no new money for humanitarian efforts in gaza, nothing without a speaker. now is the time when we really actually need government to function. and you will never guess who is

involved in all of this dysfunction behind the scenes, or maybe you will get. look, donald trump's support may not have propelled jim jordan, but it came pretty close to getting an election denying defender of the january 6th insurrectionists, that is jim jordan, into the job that is second in line for the presidency. and trump's fingerprints are all over this latest round number two because six of the remaining eight republicans running voted to overturn the 2020 presidential election results. but one of those leading candidates is someone who at least didn't try to overturn the will of the people at that time, a guy named tom emmer. you might not know him if you walked up to him in the street, but here he is. and don't get me wrong, he's a very conservative and very trumpy on just about every issue. but maybe he's a viable option, maybe he's got some little momentum, it seems, except for one thing, donald trump doesn't seem to like him very much, despite saying that he's trying to stay out of the speakers race as much as possible, and

that emmer called him over the weekend, which emmer confirmed too, politico is reporting that trump allies have been working behind the scenes to destroy's candidacy. now, you might be wondering, why is that? is it because of the irreconcilable policy differences? of course not. it is apparently because emmer has not forcefully defended trump against the indictments he is facing, and because he criticized him after january 6th. save the context over all of this, this is what emmer said on january 6th. he said, quote, today's events in washington were an unacceptable display of violence that runs counter to everything we stand for as a country. there is no excuse for reasonable debate and discourse to be replaced by destruction and chaos. now, before we start giving out profiles and encouraging words to emmer or anyone else, you should know that emmer also signed on to a texas lawsuit in 2020, asking the supreme court to invalidate biden's win. so, basically, his election denier street when credentials is actually really good, if you care about that sort of thing.

just not good enough for trump. so at a time when we desperately need the house of representatives to function, donald trump and his allies appear to be working behind the scenes to torpedo a plausible candidate for the speakership because two years ago, that candidate accurately described the attack on the capitol as an acceptable display of violence. it's basically where we are right now. now, obviously, this sort of mind bending self involved pettiness is not really something new. it was just a couple of weeks ago in the immediate aftermath of the terrorist attack by hamas when trump publicly attacked israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, who he still holds a grudge against four congratulating joe biden on his victory in 2020, that's what the coaches about. it doesn't matter if you are prime minister of a close ally reeling from 9/11, it doesn't matter if you are a conservative, almost trumpy, pretty trumpy republican running for speaker. and of course, it doesn't matter how minor this was, donald trump will try and exact revenge no matter the

circumstances, and no matter the stakes. now, trump's support for jim jordan was not enough to get him elected. he's not speaker of the house right now. it is entirely possible it won't be to sink him either. but it does seem like a complicating factor at a moment when the house republican conference desperately needs to get its act together for the good of the country. i want to begin our coverage tonight on capitol hill. jake sherman is the cofounder of punchbowl news. and he joins me now. check, if anyone knows what's happening in that room, it's not a room, i think it's probably you, what are you hearing? what is going on behind closed doors right now? >> well, jen, this is a little bit of a boring of sorts, so to speak, in the sense that it's not very boring. but what is happening is the nine candidates, now eight candidates, because dan meuser of pennsylvania dropped out, they're just basically reciting what they would do for the conference, which in some cases is tethered to reality and in some cases is not. now, the big moment is when people leave the room and start

talking about who they will or will not support, what republicans have going for them right now is that they are exhausted, to be honest with you. we've had no speaker now for three weeks. there is, there are critical things that need to get passed, aid to israel, and potentially aid to ukraine, government runs out of money in just a couple of weeks here. so, they realize they have to get on this, and more importantly, or more immediately is that if they don't get a speaker this week, some republican or democrat, but i would assume republican, it's gonna take it into their own hands and try to make patrick mchenry, who is sitting in that city temporarily, try to put him permanently in that seat. so, there's a lot of pressure right now. i don't know, and this is probably your next question, whether any of these candidates can get 217 votes. i don't know at this point. it's far from clear. to me, these are a group of inexperienced and relatively

new members to the leadership circles, if they are even in the leadership circles. so, remember, this is like the fourth choice for many house republicans. so, we are digging pretty deep into the woods here. >> it's like many of us couldn't have picked many of them out from a lineup before yesterday. jake, the patrick mchenry thing, it sounds like that's still alive. we can talk about that, we're gonna talk about that even in a couple of days. also, you've been on the hill all day reporting. you are probably tired too. is there buzz on any of these candidates? they have this closed-door meeting tomorrow at nine a.m., so going into tonight, was their buzz around one or two over a few others. >> i would say tom emmer, the house majority whip, is probably the favorite right now because he has a large operation. he is in the leadership. he could raise money. he has all the makings, and we said this about steve scalise and jim jordan as well, he has all the makings for somebody who should be able to climb up the leadership ladder. probably in the second position

is byron donalds, the florida republican who has at least until recently designs on being governor of the sunshine state at some point. he is a relatively new member of congress, very good on television, gets along with a lot of members of the house republican conference. but again, very little experience in legislating, especially washington. and then, you have two other conservatives who are probably in the mix, but we would call lesser candidates, that is kevin hern of oklahoma, who made a fortune being a mcdonald's franchiser, and mike jackson of louisiana who was already in the leadership in a pretty low slop. but remember, jen, the important thing to think about here is that these are gonna be the people this -- is gonna be the person representing house republicans in negotiations against joe biden, chuck schumer, mitch mcconnell, hakeem jeffries, who have a combined 140 years, and i'm just calculating this, so i know, of experience in washington. this is gonna be an unfair

matchup for house republicans if they ever get out of this mess. >> it is very important job, second to the presidency. take, we will be here until night. if you learn anything new, please come back. we would love to get any update from you. thank you so much for joining me this evening. and joining me now is the second highest ranking democrat in the house, democratic jen congresswoman katherine clark. congresswoman, thank you so much for joining me. my bet is that your caucus meetings are quite different from this one. but of course, we are now in the third week with no speaker, no win in sight. the government could shut down in a month. you can't pass assistance to israel or help address the humanitarian crisis in gaza. those are the things we've been talking about. what are we missing? what are the other impacts of not having a speaker? >> well, jen, thank you for having me. and you are exactly right. we are 25 days from the next shut down, three weeks of chaos and dysfunction. and there still is one clear path forward.

and that is work with democrats on behalf of the american people. and that has been our offer and continues to be our offer. let's get back to doing the work that we were sent to congress to do. and you have lifted the things that are so important, avoid a shutdown, address our national security and the needs of our allies, continue the democrats work of lowering costs for the american people. and finally, elect a speaker who is going to defend democracy, not degrade it. and what we have seen so far, if we just look at last week, all of that was rejected to pursue a speakership of jim jordan. so, we are in a very dangerous and extreme place with the house gop. >> jim jordan, such a good example. i mean, he is an election

denier, somebody who defended the insurrectionists. i could go on, as i am sure you could. and leader jeffries obviously spoke about he was not -- he shouldn't be. but there were men and women who were. are you all discussing privately on these candidates or others, is there a republican candidate that you could work with, or you would be comfortable working with? >> i think there are many different candidates that we could work with because it's not about a single person, it is about who is going to end the civil war and get back to work for the american people. who is going to work with us on the deal that we already made and voted for back in june that set budget levels, that set, we agreed not to have any of these poison pills added into those bills. what we are seeing is a republican party that has rolled back that agreement and put national abortion bans in

everything from defense to agriculture bills. i mean, their full, wholehearted adoption of the most maga extreme parts of their caucus is a rejection of what the american people are asking us to do, come together, put them first, and get back to the real work we have to do on their behalf. >> so, you don't have to tell me who, because it might take their candidacy. but of the eight candidates, is there anyone on that list, or more than one person on that list, that you could see it yourself working with, as members of democratic leadership? >> you know, again, we have been having this discussion, send us somebody who's gonna give us the tools to work in a bipartisan way to get back to work on all the things we need to do. and, you know, we were having these discussions last week,

when we saw 90% of their caucus reject working with democrats, reject getting reopening the house, in favor of electing jim jordan speaker of the house, someone who has plotted to overturn our elections, who is the author of the bill on a national abortion ban, who has never voted to feed hungry children in this country. i mean, he is so extreme in every way, a true threat to our democracy. but somehow, in the civil war, that was a better option than, saying let's go back to the agreements we've already made. let's work with a republican speaker to move our country forward. >> it was hard to believe that jim jordan emerged as he did for the time being, for that period of time. now, there is still, and jake sherman was just telling me about this -- there is still

this buzz among many republicans that the speaker pro tem, patrick mchenry, it kind of came and went, but it can come back to empower him with the ability needed to be speaker. is that something that you think democrats can get behind if that is where republicans land by the end of this week? >> you know, since january, and that 15 rounds it took to elect govern mccarthy, the democratic caucus has been extending our hand in bipartisanship. we have been saying, we understand you are in the majority, you are gonna have a republican speaker. but let's have somebody who brings the bills that are important to the american people to the floor, just like we did in the majority. we were able to pass a bipartisan infrastructure bill that is making key investments right now in communities that are paying off, whether that's roads, bridges, or broadband, or expanding infrastructure,

key things, getting pipes to our communities that i hear from constituents and people across this country is making a difference in their lives. when we were in the majority with the exact same thin majority, we were able to do amazing things because we were willing to work on what the american people sent us there to do, not a partisan extreme agenda. so, i hope that they will come out of this next round of them trying to find a candidate for speaker with that goal in mind. let's go back and look at what we were able to do, infrastructure, increasing american manufacturing, lowering the cost of insulin, investing in green technologies. these are positive things for the american people that we put before them and encouraged

bipartisanship. so, we need to get back to what people are talking about around their kitchen tables, and have the republican party stop the civil war, stop this march towards extremism, and get back to work. >> well, we will see what emerges tonight if we are still in the middle of chaos. congresswoman katherine clark, the whip, democratic whip, thank you so much for joining me this evening. coming up, it was only friday that the new york judge threatened to throw donald trump in jail for violating a gag order, so why is the quadruplet indicted ex president think now is a good time to attack the special counsel overseeing his d.c. and florida cases. plus, eight trucks have entered gaza, but as the humanitarian situation in the region continues to deteriorate, chef jose andrés tells me how his organization is providing food to both israelis and palestinians. but, first, as hamas witnesses to more hostages from gaza, michigan congresswoman elissa slotkin joins me on the state

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daughter. but more than 220 people are still being held hostage, some of them americans. and hundreds of americans are stuck inside gaza, unable to move through the rafah crossing into egypt, even as preparations for a ground invasion pick up at the border, the biden administration has also privately urged israel to delay its ground offensive into israel in an effort to buy more time for hostage negotiations and for additional aid to be delivered. the white house also confirmed this afternoon that iran is actively facilitating some of the proxy group attacks on u.s. bases in the middle east. and president biden has directed the defense department to plan or prepare for more, adding more fuel to the fears of the possibility of a larger war in the middle east. joining me now is democratic congresswoman elissa slotkin. she's a former cia analyst who served in iraq, and she's been in the room since these hard conversations are happening. she previously worked in both the department of defense and on the national security council. and she's a candidate for senate. you have a lot on your plate. i want to start with the news

that iran is actively facilitating some of the proxy attacks on u.s. bases in the middle east. and the confirmation from the white house today, because i think one of the pieces that hasn't received probably nearly enough attention is the possibility of a broader war here. how concerned are you about those reports and what you've seen over the past couple weeks? >> i am very concerned. and you can see it both with the administration, and saying american citizens and lebanon the part, or dependence or citizens in iraq depart. but you can also see it with what the iranians are saying or not saying, right? we haven't seen anything from the grand ayatollah that said don't get involved, don't attack, wait. we are seeing quite the opposite. we are seeing iranian state news talking about, if this did become a regional war, here are places iran could really become more engaged with u.s. forces. so, i think we have to prepare ourselves that this is a distinct possibility to regionalization. and we have brought in a lot of military equipment into the

region, right? carrier strike group, more planes, to deter iran, to send a message, like, don't do this. but i think we should all start to think through scenarios of if they do start to engage and hit israel from a bunch of fronts, hit u.s. forces from a bunch of fronts, what is our proportional response? what is, you know, our preparedness to get involved tonight? i think that's why many of us who have middle east backgrounds are so stressed about what's going on right now. >> you've been in these rooms and the defense department, national security council, you've been in the briefings on the hill, is there anything that you would like to see that was ration doing that they're not doing now? what do you think they should be doing? >> well, i think, you know, the biden administration is trying to thread this needle, right? of their public support of israel, israel was egregiously attacked and has the right to respond. but also, privately using those conversations and those levers to really make sure that, frankly, israel learns the mistakes that the united states

made in places like iraq and afghanistan. i served three tours in iraq with the cia. i know up close and personal what means when you don't have a clear strategy, when you don't know what your endgame is. and i think it is so important right now that we just take a breath, particularly on the ground operation, and think through how it's gonna go, and then what the end goals are. you know, i served in ramadi. i served in places that are urban warfare in the middle east, in some of the most deadly conflicts you can get into. and we just want everyone, i mean, for the israelis, for civilians in gaza, everyone to just take a breath and think through, and not make the mistakes that we made, frankly. >> this weekend, a woman you noel, who worked for, youth was tragically murdered, samantha walls, a synagogue president and community leader. the news has been completely shocking, i can only imagine. there was a press conference from the detroit police chief today, and obviously, there's not more that we know about the

motive or the person involved. i wanted to ask you about her personally and what she was like, and what people should really know about her? >> yeah, sam was well-known to a lot of people. she worked for me for two years, help me set up my congressional office, an amazing woman, a proud jewish woman, but someone who believed to her court in interfaith dialogue. that's what she did for my office, that's what she's done for a lot of leaders in michigan. and it was just, you know, her funeral was yesterday. and you could see that work in who showed up to her funeral. it was just a completely mixed picture of every faith and religion, every creed, because that's what she believed. and we don't know the circumstances of how she died, but we know how she lived. and for a place like michigan, which has such a big middle eastern population, a big jewish population, people who feel so raw right now, the -- what i am trying to take out of her short life is further that

message of coexistence, that we go forward together, and we are all on this ship together. we have to figure out a way forward. and that, to me, is her biggest blessing for what she left for us. >> i mean, as you just mentioned, i mean, michigan has such a large american population, large jewish american population, and this is not being investigated, i should note, as a hate crime. but there's a lot of fear in people understandably. how are you talking to your constituents? how should everybody be talking about what is a very raw and visceral moment in this country? >> first, i think that the important thing is to just keep those lines of communication open, like, if you know someone who is personally connected to this conflict, of them, and just say, look, i know you are in pain, i know if you are a palestinian american, you feel pain, if you are american, muslim american, you see yourself and you feel like -- i mean, i've heard constantly, as recently as saturday, visiting mosques, people feel dehumanized in that their lives are not worth as much as

israeli lives. call someone and say, look, i know this is painful for you. i just want you to know that i recognize that pain. that's the bare minimum. i think at a maximum, we have to call out islamophobia and antisemitism wherever we see it, and by whoever who is doing it, even if there are friends, even if there is someone close to us. right now, our communities in michigan are so -- worried about attacks, and sort of being threatened. and we need to just -- everyone needs to take a breath. and remember, certainly, we are all michiganders. we go to the same schools. we eat at the same restaurants. but there is no breaking up into two different michigan's, or two different detroit's. that, to me, is what i'm hearing from people. and we have to treat people equally, whatever side of this conflict they find themselves on. >> very good full-throated heartfelt advice to and on. congresswoman elissa slotkin, thank you so much for joining me with all your expertise this evening. i appreciate it.

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judge chutkan's gag order is frozen until at least this saturday, or as early as saturday, while trump's legal appeal plays out. what happens next? >> yeah, and this is not that uncommon. in fact, judge chutkan, back in the trump versus thompson case, the case involving the house select committee's request for presidential records, judge chutkan was the first judge to rule their. she also admits waited, reinstated her order because she knew trump was gonna take an appeal, and she thought let's gonna preserve the status quo while he takes his appeal, and that's what she's done here. so administratively, she reinstated until she rules herself, that she she should be state throughout the entire pendency of the appeal, or when the circuit, the appellate court, could also say we are going to stay her order. now, it doesn't mean there is literally no holds bar. it means her order is not in effect. >> yeah. >> you know, he still can't issue actual threats to people, like, that would be violation of law.

he can't otherwise violate his bail conditions, which did not include a quote unquote gag order, but do include not committing other crimes and threats, so something that would be like a direct threat, which is always careful not to do -- >> comes to the edge. >> comes to the edge. >> so, i mentioned this anthony pratt, the australian businessman, who spoke to jack smith about trump sharing classified secrets with him. 60 minutes obtained audio of pratt detailing how trump bragged to him about military strikes and conversations with foreign leaders and presidents. let's take a listen to that and i want to talk to you about it on the other side. >> i haven't even heard it, it hadn't even been on the news yet and he said, i just -- he said, i just bomb erupted a. and the president recalled me, you just bought my city. and he said, i said to him, okay what are you going to do about it? >> according to reporting, he also unveiled those secrets or spoke with about a dozen foreign officials about them. but pratt was not mentioned in

the classified documents indictment, why not? >> well, it's not clear to me at what point jack smith and his team became aware of pratt or this tape, this recording, this 60 minutes australia has, or anything else about pratt. but it is clear that they have now spoken with him. i think i have heard, you know, at least twice they've met with him. and they do not necessarily have to supersede the indictment and add additional charges related to this. they could, if they think that his evidence is credible, and you know, pratt could be bragging a little bit about this. we don't know for sure. but if he is credible about what he describes mr. trump telling him, both while he was president and after he was no longer president, they could potentially introduce that in trials as evidence call 404b evidence, evidence of mr. trump's intent, his knowledge, absence of a mistake. they're trying to prove that he knowingly mishandle classified information. other information that he was

not just careless with it, but sharing it with people could go a long way in support of their -- >> we could still hear more about anthony pratt, well, we will see. before i let you go, i want to ask you just about this georgia case because one of the election lawyers, sydney powell, has pleaded guilty to six misdemeanor counts of conspiracy to commit election interference. yesterday, trump posted on truth social, quote, miss powell was not my attorney and never was. doesn't that hurt the president's chances of trying to make the case about attorney client privilege? >> well, certainly, if you were to believe him, and if it were true, that would mean an attorney client privilege would be tough as well as an advice of counsel defense. although we know that trump frequently does this, right? he will say something one day, and two years later, he says something completely contrary to it. and if these issues get litigated, if that defense of advice of counsel, or if documents or information or materials, if he tries to keep

those out and attorney-client privilege, the lawyers will be arguing things like, his social media posts don't govern the legal issues here, and here's what the actual facts are. and so, that still remains to be seen down the road, both in the georgia litigation, and probably also in the d.c. federal court, district court litigation. >> so, sydney powell -- they both pled guilty to trump lawyers, i think it's worth noting. what does that mean for other defendants in georgia? >>, well i think a few things. i mean, now we've had three people plead guilty. we've had people who are actually pretty heavily involved, pretty high-level circles to mr. trump, who have actually admitted their guilt. and even though i tend to think that these sentences here were quite light for the significance of what they did, it shows one, they felt that the state had the evidence against them, that it was good enough to convict them. and so, they wanted to try and cut a deal. two, they are available to testify in future cases,

including against mr. trump, and if fani willis believes their testimony is credible, i suspect that she will call them. and i think it sends a signal to others that in the states but a real case here, and you have a choice now, try to work and deal with the state, or go and take your chances at trial. >> mary mccord, so much legal expertise at this table. thank you so much for joining me this evening. and still to come, world central kitchen has served more than 300 million meals to people who need it most. chef jose andrés joins me on his latest efforts to help people suffering in israel and gaza, coming up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ meet the traveling trio. the thrill seeker. the soul searcher. and - ahoy! it's the explorer! each helping to protect their money with chase. woah, a lost card isn't keeping this thrill seeker down. lost her card, not the vibe. the soul searcher, is finding his identity, and helping to protect it. hey! oh yeah, the explorer! she's looking to dive deeper... all while chase looks out for her. because these friends have chase. alerts that help check.

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organizations like the world food programme and the red cross are doing what they can. but it's going to take a much broader network of groups stepping up to meet this moment. one of the groups stepping up is the world central kitchen, founded by seth jose andrés, is no stranger to rolling up his sleeves and help feed families trapped in war zones. last year, he was in ukraine when he mobilized a team of chefs two have families there and those displaced surrounding countries. now, he and his team are working to provide meals for those affected on both sides of this conflict. so far, they fed more than 30,000 people. >> joining me now is jose andrés. he's a world renowned chef and founder of world central kitchen. i want to just start, the world central kitchen is doing so much on the ground in so many parts of the world. you are working right now with partners on the ground in israel, in lebanon, in gaza. tell me a little bit about the work you are doing and why it is so important to you to be on the ground in all of those places during those conflicts? >> well, again, we go to these

spaces very quickly because we believe that food and water is a universal human right. and so, after the terrible attack by hamas, which caused thousands loss of life in israel, we sent very quickly our teams. and we do what we do best, which is partner with local restaurants, with local ngos and other organizations, to start bringing food to hundreds of thousands of people in israel that were affected by these terrible attacks. we are giving food to probably -- different places around as well. we are on our way to 200 something, 200,000 more meals. at the same time, obviously, we had a good partner on the ground in gaza, an organization which i love, they are mainly medical, but for different reasons, we brought them food,

and we use their know-how of gaza. we have also done 20,000 meals in gaza. but more importantly, we've been able to buy from whatever was available from local farmers. we bought every single produce we could, and we went in -- fruits and vegetables, we've done over 1 million meals in the form of food bags, covering the needs of any family going to the supermarket. but this is only a drop of water in a very big ocean of needs. we still have some food that we still can obviously deliver, but inside of gaza, the food is running short. it's not gonna be covering the needs of the gaza population, not right now. they are really suffering the horrors of the war. >> you have been on the ground in or zones so many times before, given the remarkable work that you and your

organization do. we are all waiting for this ground offensive to start. we don't know what's gonna look like, when it will start. how much harder will that make it to get food, water, and supplies for organizations like the local ones who are working with on the ground once that begins? >> myself not being in gaza, even we've had teams of world central kitchen that have been there before. but i can speak from experience, unfortunately, again, in what has been the first conflict in the world central kitchen in a war zone, it was ukraine. i just came back if you weeks ago from a two-week tour around the front line areas of ukraine. and there you, can see the devastation, that war creates. so the people obviously are suffering, lack of water, lack of fuel. we see not only hospitals that they need fuel and those

generators to run basic machinery to keep people alive, but everything else suffered, any kitchen that functions properly -- we don't have food, we don't have refrigeration. the complications just to keep building on top of each other. and then, many of those kitchens that could be used to feed people every time they become more scarce, in ukraine, we've had kitchens, every time we go, obviously sometimes we lost human lives, we lost some human workers who lost their lives trying to do humanitarian work. but laura zones is not something you want to be part of. i've seen the horrors the day after ukrainians took over. i thought what war does to humanity, it brings the were so fast. sometimes, the best of humanity comes from war. the u.n. u.n. is gonna have a

hard work in the weeks and months ahead. and there's many organizations like will central kitchen, like our partners, like water emission, the organizations that we partner with around the world, to provide drinking water. we're not coming up -- once the situation hopefully becomes more peaceful, then we are granted access into gaza, and we're gonna start doing the same thing we were doing in israel, providing food to that people who are affected. hopefully, we will be able to start bringing not only people, but food with us, so we can't sooner rather than later, start lifting all the pains that people are experiencing. 14 trucks, ten trucks, that's only for food. i'm estimating you need between 250, 300 trucks a day, just to cover the basics. ten trucks, it's okay, it's just a drop of water. the special teams, whenever we

can get, information to go inside gaza, we will go. with a creativity that world central kitchen is known for, special teams. people that need food, we will find ways to provide it. people that need water, we will find other ways to provide it, fast. >> jose andrews, i love how you lead in your heart, and you have so much humanity inside of you. thank you for everything you and world central kitchen do. a appreciate you joining me this evening. we're gonna come right back after quick break. stay with us. with us i have moderate to severe crohn's disease. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are looking up, i've got symptom relief. ♪ ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ feel significant symptom relief

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state, and i can tell you that the work of diplomacy often happens best in the dark. that is why we don't discuss the status or details of conversations with qatar or other third-party countries to get hostages home. they don't talk about it until they are very much on their way home because it could put the effort at risk. that is why president biden has kept most of his messages urging delay and caution to mr. netanyahu private because making a public case would make his private argument with netanyahu less effective. now, it all depends on what works, and that is obviously something we will all be watching. it's also why it's important to understand that there are times, especially when it comes to global crises, where they decisions the presidents team make are not done through politics. the analysis of what helps or hinders his reelection campaign doesn't matter in the situation room. it's not what they are talking about in their. even the clumsy efforts by the rnc and the usual suspects trying to make hay at a video,

showing the president and first lady walking on the beach in delaware this weekend -- by the way, he also did many, many calls with foreign leaders, and even the pope. but that all seems to come across as silly background noise because that's not what the president's focus is on right now. it's on how to honor the pain of the people in israel, how to prevent a humanitarian crisis in gaza, how to bring american hostages home, and how to prevent a larger war. as it should be. now, ultimately, he will be judged not by anyone remark, even in the primetime address in the midst of all of this. but on what he actually does as president, as he should be. that's how any president should be judged. that does it for me tonight. we will be back here a sunday m. we'll be back at 7:00. stay right where you are. the rachel maddow show starts right now. >> that was fantastic. thank you for ending with that. i feel like every once in a while, i get recalled, oh,