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might have been missed, what gaps there were, but i will let them speak to that. >> can you just speak to the shift in language, we heard yesterday out of the pentagon, you know, last week no one would confirm on the record that these attacks were coming from iranian proxy groups, but then brigadier general pat riding said the u.s. holds iran responsible. >> we see that they are backing these groups, no question about that. we have sent a strong signal of deterrents. there's no indication right now that any other nation, state or actor is -- is preparing or imminently to escalate this conflict, but we're watching this very, very closely. and, again, i want to be clear here, nobody is turning a blind eye to iran's complicity. their support for these militia groups in iraq and syria, their support for terrorists
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throughout the region, we have addressed that through additional sanctions, we have address it had through additional military force posture. we're obviously going to do what we have to do to protect ourselves and our troops. nobody is at all turning away from that threat or their historic and sustained support for these terrorist groups. >> john, just a follow-up to what peter asked earlier, two questions, but one to drill down, i assume when the president said aid isn't getting fast enough to gaza that he's not critiquing our efforts to get it there. and without hanging a hook on who is responsible, is he saying that more can be done from our end? is there more that can be done to get the aid to them? >> i think he was referring to actors in the region. >> and then the second question is many years -- you're going to meet with the australian government and they have supported the release of julian assange. now, we haven't done so saying
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there were national security reasons, but for the reasons that he has been charged are basically the same efforts that many reporters use. so is there any change of heart in this administration's efforts to free julian assange? >> i won't be able to talk about expedition matters, brian. >> i didn't ask. >> fair question, but this is something the justice department is handling and i think it's better if you go to them on that. >> so we're going to continue to listen to the white house press briefing, if news is made, we will let you know, but we also want to get you caught up on what's going on in the region. 2:01 here on the east coast. right now in gaza health officials say they are officially seeing the complete collapse of the health system. just look at this scene, this is one hospital in gaza city, so crowded injured patients are being treated on the ground. it's only going to get worse, especially as hospitals along the strip run out of fuel.
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one doctor with a stark assessment to reuters, quote, if a hospital is not provided with the necessary fuel for the generators, we are issuing a death sentence, not a natural death. the execution is in the hands of the free world. human rights organizations and the united nations. everyone is guilty. you are signing a death warrant for the northern gaza strip and the patients of gaza. the death toll skyrocketing in the last 24 hours according to the gaza health ministry. they say 704 people have died just since last night, the largest number since the start of the war. this morning relatives checking body bags at the morgue to see if they can just recognize any of the faces of the dead. >> it's a massacre. i really don't know what to say. i'm speechless. i'm completely speechless. i have lost all of my family, my entire family. we have lost them. >> now, here at home secretary
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of state antony blinken is at a critical u.n. security council meeting on the situation in the middle east, as fears grow this war could escalate even more. a spokesman for the israeli military says -- tells reuters that they are ready as the fate of more than 200 hostages hangs in the balance. i want to begin with nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel who is on the ground for us in jerusalem. richard, we're hearing for the first time from one of the hostages released by hamas about what it was like being held captive in gaza. we just lirchd to the press briefing, they acknowledged they don't know where the hostages are, they don't even know if the ten missing americans are all being held as hostages. what can you tell us on the ground, richard? >> reporter: so there are, as you just talked about, there are two stories here, there is the collapse of the humanitarian system in gaza, which was already weak before, and we have according to the health ministry
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there which is run by gaza more than 700 people killed in the past 24 hours and israel saying that the -- that hamas brought this upon gaza, brought this upon the civilians by launching a terrorist attack on -- in this country, killing 1,400 people and taking so many hostages. israel says they are now about 220 hostages. we heard from one of them this morning, yocheved lifshitz, she was freed last night right around this time, 24 hours ago, and then just several hours after being freed she spoke to the world, she gave a press conference. so it's just extraordinary. she was held for two weeks underground in a hamas tunnel. she is visited by doctors and then with the help of our daughter addresses what her situation was like. and we have a small piece of our interview lined up right now. >> my mom is saying that she was taken on the back of a motorbike
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with her body -- with her legs on one side and her head on another side. that she was taken through the plowed fields with the men in front on one side and a man behind her. while she was being taken she was hit by sticks, by -- by shabaab people. until they reached the tunnels there, they walked for a few kilometers on the wet ground. there are huge -- huge network of tunnels underneath, it looks like a spider web. >> reporter: so it's just incredible to hear her story and just the context. she had just gotten freed, she had just gone through this
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ordeal and now she is telling the world what happened to her, that she was taken from her home, along with members of her family, her husband still held by hamas, thrown on the back of a motorcycle, hit, taken inside this network, this labyrinth of tunnels inside gaza until she was freed. she was also critical, however, of the israeli government. she said that the military had underestimated the threat that was posed from gaza. she said that militants in gaza had burned the fields around her home before and that the military was not fully aware, was not prepared for the danger that was in gaza. then on the other side we're seeing just this escalating humanitarian crisis in gaza city. the people are under attack by israeli air strikes. according to the latest numbers from gaza, about 400 israeli strikes just in the past -- last 24 hours or so.
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and they are all over the gaza strip. there is this impression that the northern gaza is under attack, but the south and the central gaza are safe. it is not. there have been strikes throughout the region, more concentrated in the north, but the areas around kwan yunis and central gaza are being attacked regularly. i just saw a video we're trying to turn it around right now of an apartment building that was hit and people are clamoring, screaming as they're trying -- digging with her hands to rescue survivors out of the rubble and they do manage to pull a very young girl, she looked about 9 or 10 years old from the rubble, she's covered in dust and there's cheers and celebration for the fact that she's alive. this is happening all the time in gaza now and we're efforting more information about that story. there are just tragedies on tragedies happening on both sides of this story, which is
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not -- does not seem to be quieting down despite some diplomatic efforts and some diplomatic movement. it seems to be getting worse, emotions are hardening on this side of the border with people demanding that israel do something, that they eliminate hamas because they cannot live with this kind of threat of kidnappers who are releasing hostages a few at a time and the people in gaza who now are on the brink of i think you could call it a total humanitarian collapse. >> richard engel, thank you for that. the gaza health ministry director does say that the aid coming into gaza from the rafah border, quote, throws dust in the eyes of palestinians and falls short of the needs of more than 2 million people living in the strip. nbc's meagan fitzgerald is in cairo for us. the u.n. relief and works agency say they will be forced to end their aid operations tomorrow night if they don't get the fuel, they just can't operate. what do we know?
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we just heard in the white house briefing that no trucks got through today, at least as far as the u.s. is reporting. what else do we know about aid? >> reporter: well, we know from folks on the ground that it is a slow-moving process of those trucks that did manage to make its way into gaza. right now there's this desperate cry for fuel. as you mentioned, we're seeing humanitarian aid groups like the u.n. on the ground saying they're going to have to stop their operation in the next 24 hours because they don't have fuel. we know that hospitals that are still functioning are also on a ticking time bomb before they run out of fuel as well. one doctor speaking to reuters and saying what that looks like for his medical facility is that 55 babies could die in a matter of minutes because they are in incubators and incubators can't operate without electricity. so this is most certainly a dire
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situation. there's food, there's water, there's medical supplies that are making their way into the enclave, but it's not enough. aid workers say when you compare that to what was seen just, you know, weeks ago before this war started, there was 450 trucks that made its way into gaza and right now we are looking at about 20 that are going in a day. i want you to listen to a little bit of what the deputy head of the world food program had to say about the fuel situation. take a listen. >> we're hearing people are living off of 1 liter of water a day in some cases or they're having to boil sea water in order to survive. that's only going to get worse. we know that the situations in many of these collective centers are really desperate. we had heard a figure the other day of one toilet for 10,000 people. it's just unacceptable that people are being put into this situation. so any evolution in the crisis
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or any worsening of the crisis is only going to create even more of a disaster for what we see for civilians that are affected. >> reporter: now, ambassador satterfield did say on msnbc on sunday that what we will see starting yesterday, monday, is this ramp up of aid on to the enclave, but at this point it doesn't appear as though that is happening. it does seem like it is a slow trickle of aid that is slowly getting to the territory where more than 2 million people are in desperate need. chris? >> meagan fitzgerald, thank you for that. here with me in studio now the executive director of doctors without borders. avril benoit. thank you for being with us. it is hard to speak of 55 babies in incubators who might die within minutes because those incubators will stop operating. meagan says doctors are telling her it's a ticking time bomb. what are you hearing from your folks? i know whom have been operating
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at al shifa hospital which has been incredibly overwhelmed. >> you're absolutely right and we are ourselves overwhelmed when we hear from the stories from the ground. we have over 300 staff. one of the surgeons reported today that the situation is so dire with the operating rooms that are just running around the clock, around the clock, completely full, injured people are coming in, mostly bringing in children and there was a 9-year-old boy with a semi-severed foot. there was no space in the operating room. the surgeon had to take care of it and do the amputation right there on the floor in the hallway with members of the family watching and no anesthesia. we're talking mild sedative is all that's left. >> for a little boy. >> for a 9-year-old boy with a sister who is going next sitting there watching. so the situation for the fuel for sure for incubators and all the other medical equipment that keeps people alive. we also know that the medical supplies, the stocks of pharmaceutical supplies is completely running short and in
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the midst of all of this we have colleagues that are trying to do their best, working wherever they can to try to alleviate suffering under absolutely dire and desperate conditions. >> speaking of dire and desperate, i want to talk about thousands of pregnant women who are facing imminent births right now in gaza. this is what "the new york times" reports, that these women are being given self-delivery kits, quote. the kits are spartan, each resealable plaag holds one bar of soap, a plastic sheet measuring 40 inches by 40 inches, a pair of scissors for cutting the umbilical cord, three pieces oftape, two cotton clot for cleaning and covering the mother and child, a pair of latex exam gloves and an instruction pamphlet to guide women through their deliveries. the idea of birthing a baby in the middle of an active war zone with a pamphlet and some gloves is unimaginable, but is this
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going to increasingly be the reality because what few health facilities there are, what few hospitals there are, won't even be operating anymore? >> the trickle of aid also coming in, those trucks, is not nearly enough. so you talk about the desperation, imagine having to deliver in those conditions, also without clean water. let's not forget that that is also an aspect. people are also experiencing other health issues, even we heard another story of a 6-year-old who had a severe burns to a good portion of his body because people are trying to burn water on little stoves, little fires and we always ran a burn center, we have a lot of experience with all the infection prevention control, it's really, really difficult. what we're concerned about especially is that people are going to die from things other than bombardment and the direct impacts of violence. they're going to die in childbirth, they're going to die from a lack of infection control, of antibiotics, they're going to die from even the chronic diseases that they have.
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they've been separated from their medications if they had to flee their homes. these medications that kept them alive. that's one of the reasons that doctors without borders we're calling as all the other humanitarian organizations to really ramp up the transfer of the supplies through that crossing zone at rafah. we need more trucks. it has to be a lot more than the small little trickle that we're seeing now. >> there are the immediate medical needs clearly, there are also psychological needs now and in the future. i want to show you this video we have of a doctor blowing up a balloon as he tries to comfort a 6-year-old girl. she's scared, wounded, in the middle of a chaotic hospital. what are the children facing right now, again, what are you hearing from the hundreds of people you have heroically working under these conditions? >> it's always going to be a component of any work in a humanitarian crisis, but especially a conflict zone to look after the whole needs of people, not just their physical, medical needs, but the
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emotional, psychological needs. i can't imagine the long term scars that just about everyone is going to be having to face and is already facing with the anxiety of constant bombardment and that sense that nowhere is safe. so how do you reassure a child who is injured and who is well aware that nowhere is safe that their home, their haven is gone, is destroyed. so for us there's no question that there will be long-term repercussions on the mental health burden of these people. >> the work that doctors without borders does is -- and under the best of circumstances, for example, in third world countries is extraordinary. the work that these doctors and all of you are doing now is above and beyond the hippocratic oath. i know everyone out there watching wishes there is more that they can do. avril ben way, thank you for coming. it's important for people to hear firsthand or through your doctors what's going on. thank you for being here. it's the other massive story
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switch to verizon, and get iphone 15 pro on them. (sean) wow! (vo) get iphone15 pro, apple tv 4k and 6 months of apple one. all three on us. only on verizon. on capitol hill the race for speaker is hitting yet another road block this hour. house republicans are taking a break right now following those hours of closed door voting to give new speaker designate tom emmer time to talk to the roughly two dozen members who have said they are against him. the critical and unanswered question is whether he can actually bring together a fractured house and win the gavel. >> i want to work to make sure when we get to the floor we have 217 and that's something that tom has said he wants to do before we go to the floor. >> we already had upwards of 20 that said that they could not support tom emmer for speaker and this was a roll call vote.
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this was no, you know, secret ballot. we are, again, back to where we started. this is where we're at. >> joining us now nbc's ali vitali who is on capitol hill and jim ma sienna white house deputy chief of staff and campaign manager for obama's 2012 reelect. it's great to have both of you. ali, where do things stand for tom emmer at this hour? what can you tell us? >> reporter: like you said, he's got roughly two dozen of his fellow republicans against him. the big question here is how hard are those against him dug in? i've talked to a few republicans who say that they are never going to vote for tom emmer. the important thing is a few of them can feel that way, but it's more than four, that then becomes insurmountable. what we're watching in these intervening two or so hours since most members have left the room behind me is emmer is now taking his time while the rest
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of his colleagues are on a sort of recess to meet with his holdouts and figure out if there is a path forward. i have to tell you 25 or 26 people voting against emmer and staying dug in, a majority of those votes we understand were for congressman jim jordan. jordan has said he just wants the conference to unite. it's a reminder that just because the person that they are voting for or supporting tells them to vote for the speaker designate doesn't mean that any votes are going to move. this is a really stubborn, difficult conference, it's where we were last hour. there's been no movement in a positive or progress laden direction and i think that's where republicans stand once again, completely immobilized, unable to go to the floor, not wanting to turn back and start from scratch again and seeing if tom emmer can just kind of grind this out. >> let me just clarify before i let you go. he wants to have a vote today. is it clear there will be a vote today, ali? >> reporter: no, but i can
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understand why he wants to have a vote today. the majority of his conference also wants to have a vote today. chris, let me just play for you the range of conversations that we've been having with members. just watch and it will give you a good sense of kind of where we are at in these halls. >> i can't go along with putting one of the most moderate members of the entire republican conference in the speaker's chair. that betrays the conservative values that i came here to fight for. so i hope there's a change along the way. he doesn't have the support in the room right now. >> he does not have 217 votes now. i would tell you i think he's moving the room and in the same way that kevin mccarthy did not have 217 votes right away, this is a process and i think tom emmer is -- he is showing that he's a real leader. >> reporter: the second man there, dusty johnson, ever the optimist, but the first person that we heard from, congressman jim banks, is saying what some of the other holdouts are also sharing, which is that they may have problems on policy, they
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may have problems with the fact that emmer voted to certify the 2020 election results, if you can believe it. those are some of the policy differences. and then there's what the former speaker kevin mccarthy said to me in your last hour, which is that for some people this is just personality and you can't fix personality. >> all right. ali vitali, thank you. so you can't fix personality. the chasm is wide, jim. how do you read this is a process? >> i don't think this is a process, i think this is arm twisting. what they're doing is having those back room deals they're trying to cut but i think it's indicative of ali's reporting that the first republican that came out against emmer said he did it because emmer certified the 2020 election. if that's going to be the litmus test then there is no way they are going to have a normal speaker who is going to get through that litmus test. emmer also voted for same-sex marriage, a position 70% of americans hold and yet it's inn et ma to his own caucus.
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i think he's going to find this really hard. let's remember what the prize is here if you get the speakership in 24 days you have to figure out how to fund the government and cut a deal with joe biden that will likely -- got the previous guy fired. so this is not a contest we would want to be a part of. >> yeah, there is a lot of people asking out there as i walk through new york why would anybody want the job. it's a good question, right? several candidates reached out to trump ahead of today's vote. emmer reportedly was one of them. let me play what the former president had to say about all of this. >> well, i think he is my beginningest fan now because he called me and told me i am your biggest fan. there is only one person that could do it all the way, jesus christ. if jesus said i want to be speaker he would do it, other than that i haven't seen anybody that can guarantee it. at some point i think we're going to have somebody pretty
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soon. >> what role do you think loyalty to trump -- if tom emmer called him and said, i'm all about you, even though he did vote to certify the election, which he is supposed to do as a member of congress, right? what role is he really playing? because there are people with very different views on this. what's yours? >> look, i think it's clear donald trump runs the modern republican party and it's very clear that everyone needs their stamp of approval. tom emmer didn't call him to get his sage political advice, tom emmer called him because there are a bunch of members who do whatever donald trump tells him to do. it's not enough to get jim jordan elected, he was hand-picked by donald trump, but it is enough to get the votes that absolutely have to have. as ali reported they only have four people that can leave them here, they have the smallest majority since world war ii. we are talking about an incredible tightrope that they are walking here and in the middle of this donald trump seems to be dancing on
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everyone's grave. >> nevertheless the people who are in many cases holding it up are people who are not worried about their jobs, they're going to get reelected no matter what. for the president of the united states right now he wants money for israel, money for ukraine. we're not -- we're less than a month away, we are not far away from not having the money to fund the government. >> yeah. >> so where does this leave joe biden? is there anything at all he can do? are there conversations he's having with democratic leadership in congress? >> oh, absolutely. as a former white house deputy chief of staff i can tell you he and his team are on the hill talking about -- you know, there's quiet discussions going on with staff about what it's going to take to get this deal done. the problem on the republican side is the white house doesn't know who they are dealing with, the white house doesn't know who is going to cut this deal in 24 days to keep the government open, fund the war in ukraine, to deal with the israeli situation. so, you know, it's just a nightmare situation on the short term. on the long term, though, this is a great contrast for joe biden. he's being the leader of the
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country once, holding people together during wartime while his opposition party melts down in front of the american voters. >> when do we have a new speaker? >> not this week. >> not this week? >> not this week, chris. >> jim, it's great to have you in studio, thanks for coming by. we also have breaking news involving the tech giant meta. now being sued by attorneys general in 41 different states. the allegation that meta harms children by building addictive features into instagram and facebook and according to the lawsuit prioritizing corporate profits over their users' mental health. >> this is not about money, this is about protecting kids and what we want is for the company to change its behavior. and this is part of a broader effort by the attorneys general to make all the social media companies responsible in this respect. >> nbc's ken dilanian is following this for us. ken, tell us more. >> simply put, chris, these lawsuits by 41 states and the
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district of columbia accuse meta of knowingly damaging the mental health of american teens for profit. the lawsuits say that meta's facebook and instagram have profoundly altered, i'm quoting here, the psychological and social realities of a generation of young americans and have, quote, harnessed powerful and unprecedented technologies to entice, engage and ultimately ensnare youths and teens. the lawsuits say meta has misled the public about the dangers of its platforms and has tailored features such as likes and alerts to stimulate dopamine reactions and keep kids coming back. the lawsuits cite research showing that young people's use of facebook and instagram is associated with depression, anxiety and insomnia and say meta has continued to deny and down play these harmful effects and prompt its platforms as safe for young users. meta said te company shares the attorney general he is commitment to providing teens with safe positive experiences
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online and he introduced over 30 tools to support teens and their families. this is a grave set of allegations against a company that has been one of america's tech success stories over the last 20 years. >> you're following other breaking news. i understand you have new information about that pilot who is accused of trying to shut off a plane's engines mid flight. >> yeah, this story really took a turn, chris. a new federal complaint says that this off duty pilot joseph emerson may have been taking psychedelic mushrooms during the time of this incident. an officer who interrogated emerson talked about the use of psychedelic mushrooms and emerson said it was the first time taking mush looms. the faa is investigating whether he was under the influence. in addition to state charges that include attempted murder he's been charged with a federal count of interference with a flight crew. it quotes emerson saying i didn't feel okay.
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it seemed like the pilots weren't spaying attention what was going on. they didn't seem -- it didn't seem right. yeah, i pulled both emergency shutoff handles because i thought i was dreaming and i just wanted to wake up. and the complaint adds after he was ejected from the cockpit he tried to open the emergency exit in the plane and was stopped by a flight attendant, chris. >> well, thank god for that. you cannot -- you can't make this stuff up. ken dilanian, thank you so much. >> you bet. tensions rising along israel's northern border forcing thousands in lebanon to flee. nbc news visited a lebanese school that's been converted into a camp for people who have been forced out of their homes. that report coming up next. thes that report coming up next ♪everything i do that's for my health is an accomplishment.♪ ♪concerns of getting screened faded away♪ ♪to my astonishment.♪ ♪my doc gave me a script i got it done without a delay.♪ ♪i screened with cologuard and did it my way.♪ cologuard is a one-of-a-kind way to screen for colon cancer
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couple kilometers just hugging that region right along that serpentine border that runs between israel and lebanon. this is what's called the blue line, it's monitored and has been for decades by the united nations and the lebanese military, but the real power there is hezbollah and that's what a lot of people, there's a lot of anxiety in this country, will hezbollah like hamas is essentially connected to in some cases under some speculation is run by iran. so there's a lot of wonder, a lot of questions here. will hezbollah go into war? now, we visited this school and i think you're seeing images of this, you know t doesn't look desperate, didn't look particularly crowded, about one family her classroom but a problem for the community because the students who would normally be going to school, school is out, they can only go once a week. but the fact s chris, it doesn't look crowded in those images i'm showing you, but this is before there is a full-scale war and as you mentioned nearly 20,000 people displaced before we've
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seen any real fighting here. we've seen back and forth skirmishes and we've seen more than 30 hezbollah fighters killed in more than two weeks, it pales into comparison to what we're seeing in israel and the gaza strip but the potential for a major con flag operation is here and much more displacement. i spoke to a local official and here is what he told me about that. >> but if there is a full-on war here, can you handle thousands more people? >> it is hard. it is hard. we wish it does not reach this point, but it is hard. but even if it happened, we will still -- we will still try. because there is no other way. you can't stop. the people need our help and we will try to help them. even if it's so small. >> reporter: chris, i have to tell you lebanon and the lebanese people, they are in a very, very difficult position
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here. there is an enormous amount of support and solidarity here for the palestinian people and yet this is such a war-weary nation, it has been ravaged both by war in 2006 and by a now four-year-long economic crisis that has brought this country to its knees. while people here do want to support gazans, they do want to support palestinians and they want to limit what they see in israel, the israelis doing as a war crime, they also don't want to shoulder the burden by themselves. chris? >> matt bradley, thank you for that. join me now the founder and ceo of alma, an organization specializing in the research and analysis of israel's security challenges on their northern border. thank you so much for being with us. as someone who has spent so many years studying hezbollah and as we hear reports of the potential for a major conflagration involving hezbollah what do our viewers need to know? what will you tell them? >> that it's not israel initiated everything that was
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just told on the lebanese side. that hezbollah should be held responsible for everything that is now going on on the israel-lebanese border. on the israel side there are 6,000 israelis that had to leave their homes a week ago and don't see they will be able to come back while hezbollah is launching anti-tank missiles towards israel and more every day towards the israeli communities. everybody needs to know that the offensive plan, the massacre that was brutally executed by hamas in gaza was actually the same operational plan that was published by hezbollah itself for its own military imperatives almost a decade ago. so it's the same plan that was executed in gaza exists in the hands of hezbollah to send their companies and that's why we evacuated our residents here up north and that's why we are trying to defend ourselves from any anti-tank squad trying to
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launch anti-tank missiles towards israel. hezbollah should be held responsible for all the poor lebanese that are now out of their homes and for any loss of lebanese life in the future because hezbollah is trying to escalate the situation over here in the israeli-lebanese border and hezbollah is trying to drag israel into war not just from last october but in the past year. they were launching rockets against israel. there were anti-tank missiles against israel. there was an infiltration, all of it before the war started. so i suggest that we will bring the voices from lebanon that are also understand like myself and i know there are voices like that that understand exactly who is responsible for the current escalation over here. >> there is even as we speak -- there are meetings going on at the united nations including secretary of state blinken, foreign ministers and officials from more than 20 countries in the region.
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do you see a diplomatic path to deescalation at this point? >> i don't know. i truly hope so because i live up nofrt and i don't want to see the 200,000 rockets and missiles and drones of hezbollah to be launched at the state of israel. yet i must tell you that 17 years ago we were in a practical similar scenario when everybody promised us that south lebanon will not be used as an area for the benefit of terrorist organizations and it didn't happen. they failed to provide that. so if there is a diplomatic solution it must make sure that i am not sleeping with monster anymore. >> lieutenant colonel, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us. former fixer turned trump adversary michael cohen facing his old boss for the first time in five years. what he said after he was asked what the experience was like. that's next. experience was like that's next.
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in the last 15 minutes in the new york city courtroom michael cohen picked back up his testimony about his former boss, donald trump. in the hallway here is how he described the face-off with the man he worked for for so long. >> michael, how does it feel to see donald trump again? >> happy reunion. >> a reunion. nbc's dasha burns joins us from outside that courthouse. what's been going on there,
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dasha? >> reporter: well, look, chris, it's really important to remember here for our viewers that michael cohen's testimony before congress is actually what sparked this whole thing, it's really why we're here today. he testified that trump significantly inflated his wealth. that is what got the attorney general listening and investigating trump's businesses here in new york and it's what got us here and now today on the stand he is currently describing how that works, giving us a picture of those inner workings. just before the break i'm going to read to you what our colleagues from inside the courtroom described what he said on the stand. he said, i was asked by mr. trump to increase the total assets based upon a number that he arbitrarily elect add and my responsibility along with allen weisselberg predominantly was to reverse engineer those assets, increase those assets in order to achieve the number trump
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asked us to do. essentially saying trump had a number in mind and we had to get there. he then described a little bit of how that worked. he said he would get a call, he would -- that trump would look at the total assets and say i'm actually not worth $4.5 billion, i'm really worth more like 6. he would then ask alan and i could go back to the office and return with the desired goal. again, this goes to the heart of this case, this is why michael cohen is such an important witness and why former president trump is here today with this face-off. these are two gentlemen who have not seen each other in five years who have in those five years really become bitter enemies, because this case, chris, one of the reasons we're seeing trump here so often, especially on this day, is because it really undermines the entire premise, the entire brand that trump has built his identity around. he was asked about this reunion himself, take a listen to what he said earlier.
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>> how does it feel to see michael cohen again? >> well, i haven't seen him in years and you know his record, his record is a horrible one, all you have to do is ask the southern district of new york. >> reporter: it will be interesting to see what the cross-examination here looks like. we will be coming back with more updates, chris. >> dasha burns, thank you. a fiery u.n. security meeting today as secretary of state blinken issues a new warning to iran. that report with my colleague andrea mitchell up next. eague andrea mitchell up next. i have moderate to severe crohn's disease. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are looking up, i've got symptom relief. ♪ ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ feel significant symptom relief at 4 weeks with skyrizi, including less abdominal pain and fewer bowel movements. skyrizi is the first il-23 inhibitor that can deliver remission and visibly improve damage of the intestinal lining.
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>> protecting civilians does not mean ordering more than one million people to evacuate to the south where there is no shelter, no water, no fuel and continuing to bomb the house themselves. i am concerned about the deep violations of the humanitarian law that we are witnessing in gaza. >> joining me now nbc's andrea mitchell chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of "andrea mitchell reports." so, andrea, what do we know about some of the meetings so far and some of the meetings going on outside of that room and whether there is a sense that there could be some real action here, diplomatic action? >> it's very difficult to say. the biggest thing that happened today, first of all, as you showed, the u.n. secretary-general saying that israel is violating international law, that the air strikes continuing air strikes are a violation as well as the lack of aid getting in.
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the responsibility for that is a shared responsibility. initially, israel was blocking it according to u.s. officials and egypt for the last week, at least has been an obstacle there from the egyptian side of the rafah crossing as well as hamas bearing some responsibility for its behavior inside at the crossing. you've got 350 americans trapped there. they were told a week and a half ago by the state department go south, go to the crossing. you can get out and to the extreme, you know, disappointment and anger, frustration of u.s. officials that didn't happen. the crossing wasn't opened. everyone being involved sharing some responsibility as we've just been pointing out. blinken today also saying for the first time that there should be a pause in the air strikes. he hadn't said that before.
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in fact, he pushed back against and the u.s. positioned the security council. blinken today under pressure from europe, from the european union, from france, certainly and other european countries as well as from all of the arab countries called for a pause in the air strikes and then also called on all of the countries and china importantly, to pressure iran not to widen the war. that's what he said here. >> if you, like the united states, want to prevent this conflict from spreading, tell iran. tell its proxies, in public, in private, through every means, do not open another front against israel in this conflict. do not attack israel's partners, and i wish members to go a step further. make clear that if iran or its proxies widen this conflict and put more civilians at risk,
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you -- you will hold them accountable. >> and china's foreign minister wang yi is going to be coming to washington tomorrow for a meeting with secretary blinken. this important on so many levels involving the u.s. relationship with the possibility of a meeting between president biden and president xi, but most urgently now to try to get iran with whom china has very close relations and china imports a lot of oil from iran and needs that oil to pressure iran not to widen the war. so that is the most urgent thing. outside, as you pointed out, there have been protests on all sides and hostage families going to new york some from as far york to press the world body to get the hostages out. kristen? >> yeah, i've seen those kidnapped posters, flyers up all across new york city. andrey a thank you so much for
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that. president biden's forceful support for israel in the wake of the hamas attack could ultimately cost him some votes of arab and muslim-americans who say they feel betrayed by biden's response. 69% of muslims voted for joe biden in 2020 according to the largest muslim advocacy group and while their overall numbers may be small, those landslide margins could be key to a victory in a close swing state. nowhere more so than michigan, home to 300,000 people of middle eastern or north african ancestry. nbc shaquille brewster is reporting from dearborn, michigan, one of the largest arab and muslim communities in the country. what are you hearing there, shaq? >> hi there, kris. there's definitely a lot of frustration that i'm hearing and a feeling of betrayal. that's the word that continues to come up as i talk to community members and community leaders. look, they understand that there is a humanitarian crisis in gaza. they see the images that we show on our air of destruction there
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and they also see this as a personal fight. they know people in gaza. they're hearing of the displacement that's happening there, and they want a call for a cease-fire that they're not getting to this point. i want you to listen to the conversations that i've been having with folks who say they voted for president biden starting with one who worked on his campaign in 2020 as an arab-american outreach coordinator. listen here. >> right now i have family in palestine who is afraid for their lives and biden is doing nothing to stop it. >> disregarding my life and while we see the kids, our kids and our families are being torn apart overseas. we are being threatened here. we don't even feel safe in our homes here. >> we feel betrayed. they came into our communities two years ago. they asked us to vote for president biden. they said that we had to save america from donald trump, and now we feel that we have to save
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palestine from joe biden. >> the white house and the biden campaign say that they are aware of these concerns. they say that they're working to address these concerns and they point to the tone that you've been hearing from president biden more recently, specially in that oval office address where he talked about the humanity of the palestinian people and said that they just want to live in peace and in freedom, but whether or not that's enough to shift the sentiment that you're hearing from here in dearborn and throughout the state of michigan, that remains to be seen, specially as we head into the campaign and the reelection campaign come next year. >> shep, we have less than a minute, but did you get the sense that they would vote for donald trump if it came to that? would they just stay home? what action are they willing to take, do you know? >> my conversations are very clear. they are not looking to support donald trump. they are also not saying that they will not go out and vote. they say they will go out to the polls, but they're talking about a strategy of leaving the top of the ballot out, just not voting
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for president while voting for some of the other down ballot races saying they still plan to vote for democrats. when i asked are they concerned if that ends up helping trump in this battleground state where we know president biden won in 2016 by just 11,000 votes. they said, that's none of their concern. at least they can have that vote and cast that ballot and still have a clear conscience. that's the feeling that you have that this is a personal fight and that they don't want to be associated with the action of the biden administration and the encouragement that they've been giving to israel, our closest ally. >> they beingn't have been more clear on that. shaquille brewster, thank you for that. >> that is going to do it for us this hour. make sure you join us for chris jansing reports right here on msnbc. our coverage continues with katy tur reports right now. ♪♪ ♪♪ good to be

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