in. so, although it's a very dramatic moment, i don't think the prosecution's case. rises or falls with this. >> barbara, quite, always thank you so much. appreciate it. and trump's former attorney, michael cohen, will be on politicsnation beginning on five eastern right here on msnbc. we're coming up, folks. we are watching msnbc. our second hour starts right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ c. our seco>> hi, everyone. yasmin vossoughian. we are covering a lot of breaking news this hour. if you are just joining us, welcome if you're sticking with us, we are thankful for that. the next phase of israel's war on hamas has begun. tanks and israeli tanks and troops are on the ground inside gaza. a defiant israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, spoke just a short time ago, promising the defeat of hamas and lashing out at critics of how the assault on gaza is being conducted. we're going to have full coverage of what he had to say in just a couple of moments. up first, though, we want to

bring you the major breaking political news we just learned. a few moments ago, former president bike prince dropping out of the presidential race. want to go straight to nbc's dave patterson in las vegas with us, as long as former congressman, msnbc analyst david jolly as well. when i spoke last hour when this news was just breaking. i tasked you were speaking with some folks on the ground as well to get their reaction, get their temperature on this shocking news from the former vice president of the united states no longer running for president. what are you hearing? >> first of all, i want to put this into context, right? we're at the r.j. sea, republican jewish coalition. this has now turned from what would have been a simple campaign stop for a few of these candidates to really eight men for all eight candidates, including nikki haley, behind me. it's so important because the rjc will now host the next republican debate in just about over a week from now as well. so, the focus --

the game has changed into foreign policy. this event was to prove those -- so you have candidates like nikki haley, who is behind me, and maybe vice president, former vice president mike pence, who could sort of change the narrative about their campaigns. that is when we started to hear when we started to hear from mike pence that putting his foreign policy experience on the table, going into what he would do in support of israel. the admonishment of any antisemitism within the united states, but then, all of a sudden, maybe ten minutes within that speech, completely flipping it to say he is suspending his campaign. i want to tell you a little bit more of what we've heard about that. first, i just want to play the moment when it happened. it's so surprising. listen to this. >> it has become clear to me this is not my time. so, after much prayer and deliberation, i have decided to

suspend my campaign for president, effective today. >> so, we have a little bit more from his spokesperson, david o'malley. he released a statement, i'm going to read it to you. he says the conflict in israel is a microcosm of what pence has been evangelizing, regarding populism and traditional conservative values, right? and the r.j. sea provided a one last opportunity to make that case and to do so in front of a supportive audience. in other words, this was the most appropriate swansong for what's pence truly believed in. so, we have been hearing a little bit more from the campaign. obviously, there was some writing on the wall about making fundraising benchmarks. we don't have a full reports of where he was exactly in that scale, but he maybe wasn't there. also, not there in making the next debate stage, which is so crucial at this point to anybody's campaign that is attempting to be president, if he is not making those barriers. and again, the writing is on the wall. so, pence sort of gracefully

bowed out. he brought his wife back on stage. we have heard now from a few candidates, including nikki haley, talking about his record, talking about his historic support for israel and all that he has done both in the white house and on capitol hill. again, i have to tell you, this was a shock. it really came out of nowhere. >> all right, steve patterson for us. thank you, steve. appreciate it. david jolly, let's dig into some of this. so, i'm looking at some polling here. we just pull this up from 5:38, because i want to get a sense of where the former vice president was sitting as of today, amidst this pretty shocking announcement, i would say. i don't think anybody, a cv was just reporting, expected that. he was pulling up 3.8%. vivek ramaswamy was above him at 5.8. haley, who is speaking now on that stage, behind steve patterson, 8%. then obviously, desantis at 14, and the former president at the top, with almost 60%, by the way. that is a pretty high number to say the least. what is your reaction, hearing former vice president mike

hearns dropping out of the race? >> yeah, yasmin. it is remarkable that in this race, vivek ramaswamy remains in the former vice president, former governor and a former congressman is now out. it speaks a lot about where the party is. but i think my mike pence's decision really affirms the state of the race as we know it more than it changes the state of the race. he was out of money. there will be questions, a steve said, could he actually continue to make the debate stage? that would be a very embarrassing moment for the former vice president. i think it's really a three-way race right now. donald trump by 40 points, desantis, and nikki haley. but the question is, why was it not working for mike pence? with all of the qualifications he brings, and so, what is the question of the fact that he certified the election. and we can watch the house just elevated the speakership and election denier, you have mike pence who, voted to certify the election. he realized there was no pathway for him. that clearly wasn't issue. the other one was politics and

vote counting as mike pence thought the evangelical movement in the republican party was looking for an alternative. they were looking for someone else, and he was the natural fit. clearly, that's not the case. his numbers would have been more competitive. so, is it that evangelicals are fine to stick with donald trump, or this is just a sign for ron desantis, who has been working that evangelical community very heart ever since he got into the race? this is a good day for ron desantis and the key haley. they have got a shot now to gather a little bit of these voters that would have gone. is it, as steve said, voters who care about seasoned foreign policy experience, what they looked in the at of mike pence? or is it the religious vote? it looks to run desantis, instead of mike pence? >> i'm glad you brought that up. that's exactly what i was thinking. how does a desantis or a nikki haley capitalize on this 3.8% that were in favor of mike pence? of course, obviously, donald trump is so high up in some of this polling.

there is still some time, considering where we are right now, right, 22 wars happening overseas, and in ukraine, obviously, and the israel war as well as how nikki haley could capitalize on this moment, considering her foreign policy chops. >> but reality is there aren't many pence voters, as you mentioned, 3.8%. but it's a lot when you are looking for every voter you can get to compete with donald trump. i think what we've seen in the debate is this affinity between nikki haley and mike pence's presentation to lean into their strongest qualities for republican voters, which is foreign policy experience. so, i think haley will pick up some of that. but mike pence is wired to give voice to the evangelical voter and the republican party, and get still fell flat. i do think it means most evangelicals are content to stick with donald trump. whatever his feelings are, he delivers in the supreme court and other winds. i do think we have to keep an eye on ron desantis, whether he is able to grab some strong,

very strong evangelical endorsements now, who may have been neutral because mike pence was in the race, or -- abandoned pence. i would look for that. but ron desantis picked up some tail winds now from the evangelicals. >> my question is, who does mike pence get behind now? >> and that is the final piece. does he endorse, and i think that is an open question, obviously, he would not endorsed donald trump. does he -- behind someone else? no, there's a question for the iowa governor. ron desantis has been -- very hard to endorse rounds of santa's. there is still, what, 60, 80 days before the first caucus? but ron desantis put together a kim reynolds, mike pence endorsement, going against donald trump in iowa? that would be big. i don't think mike pence owes anybody anything on that stage, though. he may choose to stay out. we'll see. >> david jolly, thank you. appreciated. want to turn now to gaza, where israeli troops are on the ground and our reporters are telling us there are unrelenting fighting, and

that's what prime minister netanyahu called the next phase of this war. gaza, remaining in a total communications blackout. it is very difficult to know exactly what is happening inside gaza. the chief of the u.n. has called for an immediate cease fire, as conditions for civilians are continuing to deteriorate there. we bring in jay gray, standing by us in northern israel. jay, walk us first through what you've been seeing and hearing on the ground there. >> yeah, there is no question that things have intensified over the last 24 hours. it's continued to be in a very aggressive move by israeli defense forces across the border and into gaza, and pushing further into gaza. we know that they've set up a defensive line, with troops on the ground. they've got tanks and other equipment inside alice as well. and then, we know they are slowly advancing, and that is what we've heard not only from commanders, but from prime minister benjamin netanyahu today, who has said this is going to be a long and difficult war, not days, not

weeks, but months that this is going to be carried out. we know they are targeting some of the spider of tunnels that reach out and cross underneath gaza. we know they targeted 150 underground spots yesterday, and into the day today. they also continue with air strikes, and now, the israeli navy is striking off the coastline. so, it is a three pronged effort. it is now officially the next stage. we saw troops going in for the last three nights overnight, and that continues now. but they are staying in gaza, and this is a moving forward with a ground assault. >> all right, jake gray for us. thank you, jay. appreciate it. coming up in 60 seconds, the risks of israel's extended ground operations in the gaza, including the danger of fueling more support for hamas. aaron david miller, senior fellow for the carnegie endowment it for international peace, joins me right next. we'll be right back. l be right back.

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more on israel beginning what is called the next phase of this war against hamas. i want to bring in iran david miller, for the international piece to talk more about this. thank you for joining us on this. i know you took a listen to the press conference in the last hour with postponed and benjamin netanyahu, and talk me through first what kind of stood out to you and what you heard from him. >> yeah. a couple of things, number one, two references by the prime minister to the fact that this operation it's going to be the secondary, the israeli work independents. the defense minister echoed that and the prime minister also talked about only two choices a fine area to be or not to be. so he has it an existentialist terms. also there is very interesting

descriptions of freedom for the western, which is the communities that borders gaza so extraordinarily. so that was part of it. but i think that the most interesting piece of this was the defense minister saying that the only plot is the operational plot. quote, we will listen to my friends. i think that there's efforts to navigate this fine line between the biden administration pressing israel's consequences, the tactics, on one hand. it again identified the objective, literally to end hamas's sovereignty in gaza. when this operation is over, a month, two, three, four months from now, there will be no

organized hamas military or political presence in gaza. but ambition and goal, without trying to create or sketch out for a day after leaves the mission, it seems to me, carelessly close to not being able to achieve its goal. any hamas presence that is left, if hamas survives, this campaign they are still winners. and that puts a huge premium on planning to try to determine what will replace hamas, unless the israelis are prepared to re-occupy that and i do not believe that that is what they want. >> do you think that that is even a possibility and a reality that they can fully eradicate hamas from gaza?

if you get rid of -- the former leader of i.s.i.s. and their mission is over, if you get rid of, as united states government did, that does not eradicate al-qaeda. the fighters still exist, right? >> the fighter, the fact that hamas have been in gaza since the early 80s. and it was part of the muslim brotherhood in egypt. this is lima's palestinian international move. since the 80s they have been -- in a social and economic religious fabric in gaza. using the islamic -- as a calling. they started to radicalize through their schools, through their mosques, through there are community outrage.

and hamas also is an idea and it represents the struggle against israel. the danger here is the obvious one, the ministry of palestinian figures, and that precise, we are talking about thousands of palestinians. most of whom were not associated in any sense. that is the narrative victimization and it is going to generate an enormous amount of anger which is why, to eradicate hamas, you need to deal with the services and the sense of dignity that hamas offered, i'd suspect, to not all, but to a fair percentage of the population in gaza. and that objective is well beyond the government of israel's capacity.

that's going to require buy in from the palestinian authority. they will require resourcing problems. some mechanism for governance, and we have it extremely complicated. what we know now, it will be a very long operation in phases, probably with no massive ground campaign to achieve this objective. >> is there a global appetite to deal with or help establish a governance for the palestinians in gaza after this incursion? and is that at all a calculus for israelis are part of the conversation of the u.s. government? the biden administration is having with, and pressing for from the prime minister? and should it be? >> i think that it has to be. they didn't do very well,

frankly, in response to covid. i have very little faith and organized international community. but the key players, it is a critical decision for the biden administration. kind of the pottery barn rule. if you break it, you want it. but they have no intention of owning it. which is where the arab state is going, and where the palestinian authority comes and. somebody has got to lead us and the administration has tethered itself to israel and a president that is deeply committed to understand with israel in a way he has tethered himself also to how this is going to end in 1000-day efforts. >> aaron david miller, as always, it is a pleasure, thank you. >> still ahead, we continue to fall with these developments. i will speak to the leader of the u.s. united nations relief

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wouldn't describe it as an explicit suicide note, but the tone and tenor was that the individual was not going to be around. >> the shooting in maine has reignited the debate over gun control laws. mean, which allows permit-less carry has one of the loosest gun laws in this country. just over four years ago the state passed this yellow flag law intoprenting people with mental health issues from accessing firearms. the yellow flag law differs from the red flag laws which is in place in about 20 states across the country. it requires police to get a medical evaluation of the gun owner before a judge can force the seizure of a gun. a red flag law allows friends or loved ones to alert authorities that a gun owner as a possible threat to themselves or others with no medical evaluation necessary. it is not clear if the suspect in the lewiston shooting had been flagged to authorities.

but the activists, the gun control activists is hoping that the tragedy will help to get tougher gun laws passed in maine and elsewhere in the country as well. we want to bring in the parkland shooting survivor, david hogg, he's president of the grassroots political organization, good to talk to you again, thank you for joining us on this. i want to start with what i just talked. about the differentiation between these red flag laws and these yellow flag laws. i know that you are actually up in mean, lobbying for the state legislator, to pass stricter gun laws back in 2019, and the state is currently having these yellow flag laws in place. do you feel as if concerning what we know about the shooter, and his history that had there been a red flag law in place this tragedy, the killing of these 18 people may not have happened >> there is details coming out but i think one

thing is for sure is not having red flag laws being able to potentially stop this individual in the first place, we know that in florida, after brooklyn department shooting, we advocated for stronger gun laws, and we passed red flag laws that have now been used over 6000 times. in florida alone. part of the challenge that comes with this work is that it is hard to prove the shooting didn't happen. but we know that somebody has repeatedly threatened others. >> i remember them talking about how they were debating between red flag law and yellow flag law. and one of the main things that i heard over and over again is that we are worried about preventing gun violence in the state, but that just isn't something that happens here. and date more than past the yellow flag law, and we cannot tell if it necessarily would've

made it all the difference, because sometimes people fall through the cracks. but it would not have heard this process. that is why mcsally in maine right. now because virginia stands to have their gun laws weakened even more. they have an election coming up on tuesday, november 7th, and they are working on various campaigns, you see behind me who's running to be one of the youngest people in the state history elected to the state legislator. and it's advocating for stronger gun laws. i was just at a memorial, for a family that lost her 17-year-old son, he went by the name -- and he was advocating with the community to end gun violence. this is the number one killer of children in this country and we're not talking about it enough. especially in the places where it has happened the most. and we need people to turn virginia on tuesday, november 7th, to make their voices heard. because this is the last thing that has -- and they are going to weaken gun laws if people do not turn up and vote on tuesday, november 7th in virginia. >> i believe the last time that you are on with me,, david is

when the white house announced the establishment of the white house office of gun violence prevention. that was just thundery month or so ago. that was something that you are lobbying for and doing this for quite some time. we are quite happy about once it was put into place, now that this office is here, and working, what can be done with this now mass shooting that has just taken place in maine? what has changed about the apparatus? >> i think that right now the defenses that at the white house there specific people who are focusing on coordinating the state, local, and federal governments response to gun violence. making sure that the last year we passed the first federal gun line 30 years. this office and shows that there are people within the federal government with a specific job to make sure that the millions of dollars of taxpayer dollars that were allocated to help fund mental health programs and expand background checks for people

under the age of 21, so that they could have an automatic assault rifle, that those systems are implemented. because in the past, when we talk with people, of course everybody cares about ending gun violence. but there's so many other issues that they also have to focus on that was challenging because everyone cares but only have so much capacity. but now what we have done with the office of gun violence prevention is make sure that there's specific people whose entire job in the government is ensuring that we have a coordinated response and that the money that has been allocated is being implemented, and the most directly as possible so that nobody falls through the cracks in the first place. >> david, thank you, good to talk to you. >> thank you. if you are in virginia, vote. >> after the break, a protest against the globe calling for a cease-fire on gaza. plus -- usa, merrick cronan, philip joins me to talk about the impact of israel's ground operations having underground

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gathered in cities across the world, as the one in the air and ground offensive on the gaza strip. one of the biggest protested places in london where people were demanding the british government called for a cease-fire would allow humanitarian aid to flow into gaza and create time for those evacuating a secure exit. i want to welcome foreign --

as it comes to these ongoing protests calling for a cease-fire in gaza. talk us through a couple of things here, because you have been reporting from on the ground and speaking to folks i know. do we have any updates on when america stranded in gaza, in the hundreds, really, it could get out amidst this next phase of this war? >> yes ma'am, it is a great question. it is what a lot of people are speaking to would like to know. it has been more than two weeks since the u.s. government told them to move south in anticipation of being able to cross over into egypt. that has still not happened. we know that -- who is familiar -- he calls it a puzzle -- that it is a very -- challenging -- the u.s. ambassador -- is in the region --

to focus on -- issues in fact he was -- continuing -- but as you mentioned, -- the offensive -- israel attacks on gaza -- this makes a situation -- as the world watches -- innocent civilian life in gaza. [inaudible]. across the world where people -- taking to the -- hundreds of thousands across the world from indonesia -- and jordan and -- a struggling across the border. it has been a week since that first convoy entered since then, we've seen 84 trucks carrying food, water, and medical

assistance but of crosston. but humanitarian aid workers say that that is a drop in the ocean compared to what gaza saw before all of this which was around 450 trucks entering daily. we spoke with the regional director of the red crescent. i want you to listen to a bit of what he told us. >> thousands, tens of thousands more suffering with and who pays the price? it is not the armed groups and the militaries, it is the average mother of seven. it is the average family. it is the elderly. disabled. it's the citizens that pay the price. and in these situations, they are not part of any political group. >> there's no doubt that the people in gaza are suffering right now it's humanitarian aid workers try to do what they can

to meet the need, which is essentially impossible with what the regional director told, us and keep in, mind fuel is not on board. any of those shipments, it is something israel didn't agree to. they are concerned that it would end up in the hands of hamas. meanwhile, we are hearing from sydney mccain, the late senator, john mccain's wife. she is the chair of the world food programme, calling the bureaucracy around trying to get these trucks in insane. will that change? well, that is certainly something that we will be watching for. >> megan fitzgerald, thank, you appreciate it. i want to bring in mira cronan feld, executive director at you are w a usa with more on the push for humanitarian aid inside of the occupied gaza area. thank you for joining us on this. i appreciate. in my understanding as we are saying, you have about 13,000 or so people that are trapped inside of gaza right now working for the organization that you've been unable to have contact with. >> yeah. we have 13,000 staff members working inside of gaza right now. and we have had very little

communication. my colleagues with anyone on the ground. just with the director of the field office there, mr. tom late, just a little bit of communication with him. otherwise, there's been very, very little communication because of the blackout imposed by israel. >> israel's minister of communications actually re-tweeted a tweet from elon musk. elon musk had put out that starlink was going to support connectivity to internationally recognized organizations in gaza. but the israeli communications minister essentially said that israel will use all means at its disposal to fight this hamas terrorist activity. there is no doubt about, it we know it, musk knows that, and he goes on to say that hamas is i.s.i.s.. what is your reaction to this and how desperate -- desperately to palestinians and members of the organization need this connectivity to provide aid to the palestinians necessary to keep them alive

amidst this next phase of this war? >> it's absolutely desperate to have this communication for a headquarter staff. let alone for palestinian civilians of gaza. 2.2 million of them, over half of those 2.2 million are women and children, and there's been 7000, over 7000 deaths as your correspondent said. right now, we are talking about a catastrophic situation in which not only are civilians being hit with bombardments, last night by the way it was the biggest bombardment. today, i have colleagues who are able to get through through satellite communication. actually contractors that we work with say that the sky was red all night. and we heard screams, and i've seen and heard things that i cannot unsee, or an here that will affect me for life. let alone those on the ground who are facing this directly. it's absolutely essential that our staff have communication. it is also absolutely essential that fuel is let into gaza.

fuel is necessary for hospitals to run, for water to be decelerated, and meade drinkable. for the aid, the very little aid, the 74 trucks have gotten into gaza to be able to distribute those gifts. those food, that water, the medical supplies, to those in need. we are talking about a catastrophic situation made all that more catastrophic. we have no idea how many deaths there were last night by the bombardment and the start of the innovation. >> what if when you are in contact with them, your humanitarian workers have been telling you about the situation on the ground. especially when it comes to palestinians that are being told to leave the northern part of gaza to move south. and they would have to stay instead and why that is. >> i can tell you directly that my colleague has been in the press a number of times recently. his mother and his father and his nieces and nephews stayed

in their gods at city apartment because those who had left. those friends and led relatives who had left on the two evacuations available faced bombs, there's many bombs, in fact, many bombs and missiles, in fact, 42 installations have been hit. seven of them directly. so people do not feel safe going south and i will tell you, there's 21,000 people in the refugee camp with two bathrooms. this is unsuitable for any human being. so my colleagues family decided to stay. and frankly, we are very concerned. we've not heard from them in 24 hours and we do not know their status. i am waiting every minute to hear from my colleague that he has heard from them in the there are still alive. >> thank you for joining us. we wish you and your colleagues the best in this incredibly harrowing time. thank you. >> thank you. >> up next, congresswoman judy chu joins me to discuss the prospects for gun reform in the wake of the -- thoughts on the newly elected house speaker, and much more. we will be right back.

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presidential candidates, many of whom are in vegas right now. the republican jewish coalition summit, are reacting to the breaking news that we brought you in the last. how are the former vice president, mike pence, is dialing out of the 2024 presidential race. ron desantis is calling pence a quote, principled men of faith who has worked tirelessly to advance the conservative cause. nikki haley is saying that the

nation owes pence a debt of gratitude and tim scott is saying that the republican party stronger today because of pence's leadership. former president trump is speaking at the r.j. sea summit right now in las vegas but has not commented yet on his former vice presidents announcement. one centrist democrat who lives in lewiston made the statement reversing his opposition to banning assault weapons. >> i have opposed efforts to ban deadly weapons of war with the assault rifle used to carry out this crime. the time has now come from me to take responsibility for this failure. which is why i now call on the united states congress to ban assault rifles, like the one used by the sick, perpetrator of this mass killing in my hometown. for the good of my community, i will work with any colleague to get this done in the time that i have left in congress. >> joining me now, congresswoman judy of california who is part of the

gun safety caucus in congress. congresswoman, thank you for joining us on this. appreciate it. talk to me first about your reaction to this, this change of mind about jared golden, mean democrat. who is now supporting a ban on assault weapons after the latest mass shooting hit close to home for them. >>. . in monterey park, it was the first mass shooting in the country of a significant death and impact up until now we were the mass shooting with a large number of those killed.

now, unfortunately, lewiston, maine is that city. i can feel for the shock and the utter overwhelming grief that they are experiencing. >> after the mass shooting in monterey park, you introduced red flag laws, your district, your area, to that have you reached out to -- about gun legislation reforms? the fact that the only have yellow flag laws in place right now? >> because there are parallels between what happened in monterrey park and louis stone, this was a shooter who was becoming mentally deranged or perhaps what was already so. our shooter also was becoming more and more unhinged. and there could've been people in the community that could

have reported this to the authorities and had his guns taken away. in monterey park. but also in maine. and what we need to do is to get the communities to have greater awareness that they can prevent such mass shootings. that is what my red flag law does. and it would play for greater outreach to communities that is linguistically appropriate fashion. also provide for grants that will allow community organizations to hide a person through the whole process. so i will talk to jared golden, but i can tell you, i don't want to call him right now because i know how overwhelming it is when you have such a terrible mass shooting. >> i want to play for you some sound of the new speaker of the house. mike johnson. and his reaction to the shooting in mean. >> at the end of the day, the

problem is the human heart, it is not guns. not the weapons. at the end of the day we have to protect the right of the citizens to protect themselves and that is the second amendment and that is why our parties are so strong for that. >> the white house spokesman called these comments offensive. congressman, what is your reaction? >> i think it is outrageous that he could say that it is hearts and not guns that cause this it is guns that cause this. we have more guns in this country than people. it is easier to get an assault weapon than it is to get a drivers license in this country. now we have 565 mass shootings that occurred in this year alone. it is time for action and those that do not recognize it are really hiding their head in the sand. but what is worse is that they are causing mass tragedy in this country by not stopping

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griffin who has the latest details on all of this. walk us through what we are learning. >> awesome. and good to be with you. we heard from cnbc that the tentative agreement was reached sometime possibly today. we know that this still comes after the union reached a similar deal with forward on wednesday. how soon could still antis some ploy evs get back to work? that is the big question. we know from leadership that they are planning to have informational meeting so that members could ask questions before they vote to ratify these two tentative agreements and you've still got gm, the big holdout here for the big three involved in the strike and we are told by leaders that they plan to meet with gm today to hopefully end the six week long strike that has impacted some 140,000 uaw workers. this agreement that was reached today by stellantis we are told mirrors the agreement that ford made earlier this week in

wanting to revisit that. the four deal includes a 25% pay increase and it raises the top wages to $40 plus the starting wages to $28 an hour. it also reinstates cost of living adjustments and produced an eight-hour path to get to those top wages down to three. now, the strike has collectively cost the automakers some 1.3 billion dollars. jim alone says that it has cost him about $800 million. how soon could everyone get back to work? still, the big question, we know some ford workers and detroit have returned to work. but still, there are some 45,000 uaw workers currently striking. this includes eight plants, 38 parts distribution centers in 22 states. so this has been a very somewhat long and drawn out process during six weeks. several other non-union members have been let go. hundreds of them. so the hope is that they will

get their jobs back. now a lot of these agreements are coming to fruition and we have not seen what that deal looks like yet, yasmin, but we know those members are going to get a look at it pretty soon and hopefully they will be able to decide whether or not they want to take that deal. >> so, stellantis, halfway of, possibly on the way to getting that done. gm, kind of still this outlier here. i know, as you quoted, some of the leaders at gm, and the leaders at the unions as, well are they hoping that the momentum from fort and possibly stellantis will help propel forward an agreement with gm in the coming days? >> exactly. and we have seen that here and los angeles with the writers strike. you know, that prompted the actors to go back to the negotiating table and there's been some weird that maybe they are getting closer to a deal. so this is likely going to put some pressure on gm to try to get on board so that all three big