excited to welcome back former toonie general eric holder to the -- program eric holder t the -- program s, i promise i'm definitely going to ask about her own political future. you will see that interview next sday right here on msnbc. that does it for me today. be sure to follow the show on twitter, tiktok, and instagram. we'll be back here tomorrow night next sunday at noon. there is much more news coming up on msnbc. up on msnbc. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> this hour, the trump family getting ready to testify in court in minutes. i will talk to two people connected to the january 6th hearings, their take on what ivanka trump might offer through knowing her or hearing

her january six testimony. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> at the top of the hour, a very good day to all of you from msnbc headquarters here in new york. welcome everyone to alex witt reports. it is one pm here on the east coast, seven pm in the middle east. and we begin with breaking news on the israel-hamas war. ♪ ♪ ♪ [sound of artillery] >> nonstop shelling in the gaza strip today. here's what is new this hour. israel confirms it has boots on the ground in gaza. the limited internet access is back on. the world food programme warns of growing hunger and desperation. the idf says it has hit 450 hamas targets in the last 24 hours. here's part of a report from nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel. [sound of artillery] >> reporter: we saw and heard a huge explosions that shook buildings for miles around.

israel says it is using heavy bombs to collapse hamas tunnels and remove the group from power, after it murdered 1400 israelis and captured at least 229 hostages three weeks ago. >> [speaking in a global language] >> reporter: israeli prime minister netanyahu said the war would be long and difficult. after announcing a new phase of the war, he was peppered with angry questions. he refused to accept responsibility for intelligence failure before the hamas attack. >> bring them home! >> reporter: in tel aviv, families of hostages are demanding that the government do more to secure their release. >> let's make this swap. send them all the prisoners that are here and release all their hostages. >> new nbc news video shows destruction inside gaza after the first few hours of israel's intensified offensive. one white house official says images like these are one reason restoring internet access was important. >> aid workers need to be able

to communicate. civilians need to be able to communicate. and of course, journalists need to be able to document what's happening in gaza to report it to the wider world. so that is something that we cared about, work is done, and we are glad to see that restoration. >> also new today, growing concern after thousands of civilians stormed a united nations run warehouse that stores food and other necessities. there are also fears for the safety of tens of thousands of palestinians who are sheltering at hospitals in the gaza strip. officials say they have been warned by the idf to evacuate, but they have no place to go. meanwhile, as the number of casualties increases, gaza says it is running out of cemetery space in which to bury the dead. the ministry of health in gaza now says more than 1000 people have been killed, including more than 3000 children. while israeli defense forces say more than 1400 have been killed. we have reporters in place from

israel to washington covering all of the day's developments for you. let's go right out to jay gray. he's standing in tel aviv. welcome, another big story today is that prime minister benjamin netanyahu is issuing an apology. tell us why. >> yes, alex. very interesting, he had a late night post saturday, overnight post, which seemed to blame members of the military as well as security on his staff for the october 7th attacks. there was immediate and angry responses from those in the military and security demanding an apology. nine hours later, we did have the social media post removed. it was taken off social media. and nine hours later, he posted another posting, and said at the top of the post, i'm quoting here, i was wrong. so, there's definitely some dissension, some back and forth within the upper leadership here in israel about what's

going on. and really, alex, it cuts to an undercurrent that you hear and feel across israel right now. a lot of people, including one of the hostages released by hamas, asked why some of the warning signs three weeks before the attacks were ignored, and why it took so long for police officers and idf soldiers to recognize and respond to the attacks? a lot of people are asking questions about that. what we have heard from leaders in both the idf and the government here is that now is not the time for that. but there will be an independent assessment at some point. >> okay. jay gray, i do appreciate that update. thank you so much. let's go to nbc's erin gilchrist. he's at the white house for us. erin, welcome. we're gonna be waiting for the biden administration on israel's expanded ground operations. >> we are hearing from the administration today, alex. this is the first time this weekend that we are hearing from the national security adviser, jake sullivan, and the

headline here is that we have learned from him and his appearances this morning that president biden is speaking to the israeli prime minister today. we were able to get exactly what time that will be happening happening, or the circumstances of the call. but that will happen today. of course, we will be looking to learn more about what exactly comes out of that phone call. some also talked a lot about the new expanded operation that we are seeing in israel, as it appeared on different programs this morning. he did not want to assess exactly what the israelis are doing. he said in those conversations, but he continued to express support for the israeli administration, and he also talked about, talking to his peers all levels of government, the u.s., the biden administration is talking to their peers about the military operations as they're happening in israel, and about the methods that they are using to achieve their objectives. there were also questions put to him on cnn this morning in particular about civilians being in harm's way as the israeli military goes into gaza. i want to you to hear how it

was that. >> the israeli government should be taking every possible means available to them to distinguish between terrorists who are legitimate military targets and civilians who are not. -- who every move that they may, what i'm going to say, that is our advice to them in this meeting. and we gotta ice levels -- >> it was the issue with americans and other foreign nationals trying to get out of gaza and into egypt. we know that hundreds of people have been amassed at the rafah crossing, with the expectation as we were told weeks ago, that they'll be able to get out of gaza and into egypt. as we understand from sullivan today, the u.s., egypt, and israel have all agreed that that is something they want to happen. those foreign nationals and americans getting into egypt. sullivan said that hamas has been preventing that movement

from happening, that the organization has been making demands of the egyptians and the americans, and that right now, there are negotiations that are ongoing, alex, to try to make sure there is a way to get americans and other foreign nationals out of gaza safely, even as israel is now expanding the ground operation. >> yes, and they can't do it a second to sun. thank you very much, aaron gilchrist, at the white house for us. joining me right now, former presidential middle east adviser, ambassador mark ginsburg. as well as former state department senior advisor neera hawk. i welcome you birth. ambassador, to you first, israel stepped up the number of ground forces in gaza over the past 24 hours. the idf says it will gradually be expanding. so, there are pretty deep concerns that a ground invasion might bring israel into a brutal urban battle, and potentially, sparked a broader conflict with the hezbollah in lebanon. is israel pursuing in the best long term plan right now? do you have any concerns about it, and if so, what are they?

>> well, my concern is that if you back it up, what's the day after looking like? what happens to all of those people who are caught in the cross fire? and more importantly, as you look at the way the israelis are engaged in this operation, i think it's important to not look at this, based on my understanding of the idf, that it is going to set a massive amount of troops in order to fulfill the nomenclature that there's going to be a ground invasion. i think the israelis are essentially engaged in salami tactics. they're going to do what they can to do nazify, rig the northern part of gaza, hamas terrorists, and once again at that point, consolidate their control on that northern part of gaza. and at that point in time, obviously, we have to make a

strong decision about, do they have control over the tunnel network under that part of gaza? and secondly, i dare say that perhaps, there will be a temporary cease-fire with a hostage released negotiation. and then, the question is what do the israelis do with the remaining parts of hamas terrorist operations that exist in that southern area, below the area that they have occupied. >> you obviously have a lot of questions about this. let's move to you, neera. israeli officials have indicated toground invasion that it was due to allow negotiators more te to secure the release of the hostages. relatives of israeli hostages have asked netanyahu to halt airstrikes and resume rescue negotiations. is it possible to negotiate and launch a ground assault at the same time? do ground assaults ultimately increase or lower the chance to bring hostages home safely? >> part of what the challenge

is that these rallies are facing right now is agreeing on a final objective. is the objective getting rid of hamas? is the objective of having a peace between palestinian state and israeli state, or is the objective do whatever you can to get hostages home? neither one of those, it has to be mutually exclusive. but every day, every day of decision-making, every day of continued attacks and responses from both parties makes it more and more difficult to reach each of those goals. now -- >> let me just interrupt you for a second, because you just laid out three criteria that you say you believe that the israelis are going after, get rid of hamas, have a long-standing peace, and rescue the hostages. that second one, i have not heard from benjamin netanyahu. he was very specific that we're gonna get rid of hamas, and we want to bring our hostages home. so, without that second component --

>> that's exactly why i said the israelis, and not the israeli government. as the report mentioned, there's a lot of diversity of opinion inside israel right now about what their government is doing in response to the national security. you have folks who are saying that the government's response to do a ground assault is going to hurt a long-standing peace. they talked about the cycle of violence that hamas essentially recruits from people, the families of civilian casualties, right? so, that is one of the things we are hearing. you are also hearing aid agencies, which are clear narratively, the only response is one that stops the opposition once and for all. and then the last one is something about what they are doing right now? what conditions can they create, in which they did for the last couple of days, to make it a little easier, to have negotiations between hamas and qatar, u.s. interlocutors,

other allies to get people home safely. the challenge, alex, is that as israel itself debates what they want their president to do, choices every day make it difficult for all three of those things to happen. so what we have right now with the idea of a full scale assault that involves ground troops, urban warfare, and the potential for a longer term stay in gaza, that does not make it easier to get hostages home. >> so, here's something, ambassador ginsburg, israel has indicated its will to set up a security state in gaza after it completes its stated goal of dismantling hamas. a bit earlier today, national security adviser said that the biden illustrator illustration is not clear on israel's endgame. there's a bit more from him. >> we can't go back to october 6th. and that means that hamas can no longer threaten israel from gaza. but it also means that we need a political horizon for the palestinian people, where they

have rights, security, and dignity in a state of their own, to states for two peoples. and also, all of the countries of the region need to participate in that in a way that leads to greater regional integration and stability. >> two questions here, is a two state solution realistic anytime soon, ambassador? and what would come next for gaza if israel successfully dismantles hamas? >> categorically, no. and i'll say why. mr. netanyahu's longevity in israel and his government's refusal and opposition to any palestinian state is not the issue. the issue is whether after this, what essentially is a historical change inside israel, whether it will produce a government and a leadership that sees a horizon with a pacified palestinian state possible, first of all in the west bank. now, let's be clear here, there are commentators who keep

separating hamas from the people of the west bank and from gaza, as if somehow they are completely separate entities. that is not the case. the 2 million people who live in gaza, at least 400,000 of them are either hamas full or terrorist operatives, or the support network that is directly hired by hamas. i don't know how you are able to have a two state solution that includes gaza. that, to me, at this point in time may be just beyond anyone speech, and it's far more likely with a new government in israel that you can set the conditions straight to try to restore some semblance of power to the palestinian authority, which even now is extraordinarily challenging. >> so then, same question to you, nayyera, two state solution possibility as well as what would be next for gaza without hamas? >> i agree with the ambassador. the conditions right now are not there. but we know by looking at

history, by looking at the united states ground in patients that at the end of the day, a political settlement is how you end up with ending that cycle of violence. but that's going to be very difficult with hamas still they are actively using rhetoric that is antisemitic, that halts, hopes for the destruction of the israeli state, and the more the back and forth violence continues, the week or the palestinian authority becomes. i see the only hope, frankly, newer generation of leaders coming forward because right now, you have between the two palestinian leaders and netanyahu himself people who have had a similar response to this challenge for the last 20 years. new blood might be needed to change the situation. >> last question to you, ambassador, do you fear a broader war, multi state activity led by iran? >> yes. we are already beginning to see that. but i don't think iran at this point once to expand its

deterrent against an attack on itself. hezbollah, particularly since i'm convinced at this point in time that iranian officials valieva that the president's effort to have u.s. military to come to the defense to the north and leban, syria, and iran is a credible threat. north and lebaparticularly becaa that ground invasion in my judgment is not going to result in the type of massive protests and headlines across the arab world, rather than as they said, the continuation of what essentially is israel's cleansing of hamas operatives step-by-step from north to south in gaza. >> okay. i'm just getting word, a conversation is taking place between benjamin netanyahu and president joe biden. not sure the content of that call at this point. we will try to figure that out. we've got a short commercial

coming up, we'll see if you can get more intel on that. at least there's discussion between the two leaders. thank you both for your time. coming up next, we will get that information i just promised to. plus, why the new york donald trump trial about to get really awkward. plus, a new information about a big fish in the trump on, and why that is making trump very unhappy. plus, is ivanka trump a key witness. so am i. because i'm at risk for pneumococcal pneumonia. i'm asking about prevnar 20® because there's a chance pneumococcal pneumonia could put me in the hospital. if you're 19 or older, with certain chronic conditions like copd, asthma, diabetes, or heart disease or are 65 or older, you may be at increased risk for pneumococcal pneumonia. prevnar 20® is approved in adults to help prevent infections from 20 strains of the bacteria that cause pneumococcal pneumonia. in just one dose. don't get prevnar 20® if you've had a severe allergic reaction to the vaccine or its ingredients. adults with weakened immune systems may have a lower response to the vaccine.

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worth hundreds of millions of dollars. joining me now is sarah matthews, former trump white house deputy press secretary. former spokesperson for the house january six committee, hannah muldavin. and former federal prosecutor and legal affairs columnist at politico, we're not too many audi. a dynamite team. let's start with you, sarah. you know ivanka from your time in the trump white house. can you tell us about her interactions during that time and what might be weigh in on her mind with that court date on friday? >> even someone in the west wing who's definitely hands on when she advantageous to her. a problem would arise, her and so it would be nowhere and somehow they were not in the of. i think in this particular situation. she definitely is not thrilled about having to testify because we have seen her trying to distance herself, her and jared kushner or not part of the 2024 campaign. they're really nowhere to be

found. and like i said, and they're very hands on previously. but they have since tried to pull away and rebrand somewhat. and so, i imagine her being dragged back into one of the former presidents legal battles. it's not a situation that she is thrilled about being part of. and i think that she does have valuable testimony to get, though, while her brother's probably play a bigger part in their roles on the trump organization and being more hands on with the day-to-day business dealings. she would definitely be part of those conversations and would have knowledge too that could be useful in this case, i believe. >> hannah, when you saw her testify to the house committee, she did not hold back. based on her approach to the january 6th case, do you expect her to be forthcoming? or is it in different when her family's wealth is at stake? >> alex, i would say she didn't hold back, but she was very careful with her words, right? i think when ivanka and jared both came to testify to us, they thought that they were saying and doing the right

things. they did not recall a lot of things that we ask them about as well. but i think when you think about what a witness blaze or the role that they play when you are putting together a larger picture is that there is a piece of the puzzle and they might not realize the things they're saying might be valuable when they are. and that's exactly what ivanka did for us, right? we also know that she has a lot of influence over her father. as sara i am sure can attest to. on january the 6th, she was the one that everybody looked to to go and talk to her father, to get him to tweet out, telling the rioters to go home, right? so, ivanka plays a very specific role in this family. i'm sure she doesn't want to testify. but i think that her testimony, like to the january six committee, could provide really valuable information. >> sarah, let me just follow-up, do you agree with what hannah said, the assessment that ivanka has influence over her father. he's gonna have influence over her too, you would assume. >> hannah is exactly right.

that specific instance that hannah recalled, i was in the west wing on january 6th. and everyone was trying to get ivanka to get the former president to tweet out something, to tell the rioters to go home, to stop the violence. and she was the one who finally convinced him to do so. and she does have a huge influence on him. and so, i think that she is very involved in the family and her testimony will be extremely valuable to this case. >> you know, we're not oh, prosecutors are basically accusing donald trump of employing a fake it until you make it strategy, and they want to use ivanka's testimony in detail how exactly is she leveraging inflated asset values to bring cash for our fathers, it's all pretty presidency by the way. but he was at that time desperately trapped for cash. is that why they're fighting together on the stand in spite of her own and her father's efforts to keep her being there? >> yeah, i do think that -- >> sorry.

they view this as a win-win attempt. first of all, the possibility that she takes the fifth, which her brother did, for example, for 500 times, that's a win for civil trial. in a trial like this one, that can be used against trump and his companies. but if she doesn't, she's gonna have this same carefully worded testimony that we saw from the january 6th committee just a moment ago. she tries to thread some sort of needle. the problem is one thing that she is not gonna do is say that she personally attested to a false evaluation that went to a lender. so, she is going to claim that those valuations are accurate. the problem for trump and his organization is that those same valuations were contradictory to other valuations that were submitted elsewhere, particularly for tax purposes. so, that's a problem.

and that's really the strength of the new york a.g.'s case. >> i mean, she's not on trial, right? so look, if she were to lie, she could be charged with perjury at some point. so, why wouldn't she tell the truth if that's exactly what happened, those things she said she would not say. >> i think she probably will. but there is some balance here. first of all, she has to be concerned about her own liability. and on the other side of things, she has to be concerned about not poisoning her relationship with her father, right? she has loyalty to her father and her family. she doesn't want to throw her father and her family under the bus. but at the same time, she wants to protect her own type, so to speak. so, she's gonna try, i think, likely, to have a delicate balance, but, you know, we don't know all the specifics of what the testimony might be. i think it's fair to say that one reason why her lawyer tried

to keep her off the stand so strongly is because either she's gonna have to say things that are damaging to her family, or she's gonna have to take the fifth, which is gonna create problems down the road. >> we are having a little bit of trouble with your audio there, renato. very quickly, the judges given until wednesday to appeal. will she do that? >> i think so. absolutely, they're gonna try to delay. >> sarah, what about the siblings? what do you know about their relationship? we'll she be saying things about them that could hurt them in the case? does she, renato brought this up, does she risk being a straight from her family after the? >> they are a close knit family and while they have their issues, i don't know that she is going to want to put them in a bad situation. and obviously because then it will reflect back on her and it will look poorly on her and her family.

so i think that she is going to be careful with her words and try to protect her family. at the end of the day, something i knew very well from working with jared and ivanka that they were always concerned with their own things first. we saw this all the time where trump would enact a policy or tweet something allowed and then in the reporting, it would always be, oh, jared and ivanka disagreed. they tried to push back. so, they were always trying to make themselves look good in the media. and i think that she is gonna be very truthful with how she's coming across with her testimony. and it's gonna be very guarded. so that's gonna probably be a bigger factor than trying to protect your family. >> look, in terms of making yourself look good, apples fall far from the tree. but to you, hannah, a couple of reports last week that suggested marc meadows may have flipped against trump in the jack smith case. his lawyers said those reports were largely inaccurate. trump then dedicated to social media posts to meadows, and

jack smith immediately asked d.c. jud tanya chutkan to include a gag order on trump calling this unmistakable and threatening message to a foreseeable witness in the case. meadows handed over text messages to your committee, hannah. then he abruptly stopped. how do you interpret what's happening here, and what is the likelihood of meadows flipping? like>> this is, if true, huge, right? mark meadows was a person that turned over those text messages, like you said alex. he also turned over some documents to us. some of those documents were emails, or of course letters he had that show the impact in the role that he played across the different january 6th pressure campaigns that trump had, right? mark meadows stopped cooperating with us. i don't really know why. he did not make sense to anyone on the committee at that time. congress ended up recommending him to doj for contempt of congress. but when you think about

meadows's role, i think with think about how close he was to donald trump on january 6th, and the fact that he was on the raffensperger call in georgia, and that he was a big part of the doj effort to replace the acting doj with someone that trump wanted. but there is other parts of this game that he was also a part of, right? we found an email that he had sent in early december from conscious burrow, that name now is more familiar to folks because she is brought was the architect for the fake electors plot. he just pled guilty in georgia,? right -- >> if he in fact is cooperating with jack smith i think we saw donald trump's reaction, he is very nervous about this because this is a guy that knows a lot of information. and if it's being used against donald, it might shed even more light and then we already know about the plot to overturn the 2020 election. >> last question to you, sarah

because you also know mark meadows in the white house. the prospect of him flipping sound too much for him to do against donald trump? >> i think that if he is smart, he will. and i think something with mark meadows who i spent some time working with him, he is definitely one of trump's biggest enablers. and hannah is exactly right. he was at the center of everything when it came to trying to overcome the election. so donald trump has to be shaking in his boots if he thinks that now that meadows is cooperating. but i kind of think that the likelihood is i. we've heard that meadows and donald trump are no longer on speaking terms. they do not speak. they haven't spoken, i believe, in months. so, i believe that the trump world knew for a while it this was coming. but they are definitely scared if he is cooperating because he will have a lot of knowledge and he has a lot of reason to flip. he was definitely, probably has the most to lose other than trump when it comes to this case. and so, i think that if he is smart and getting was council than he is cooperating and

definitely telling the truth which is refreshing, even though it took three years for him to now acknowledge these things that we saw in recent reporting, he said that obviously, we knew that we did not win. and that is, like i said, refreshing for him to be saying and finally acknowledging. but at the same time, extremely frustrating when you think that his lies and deception that he enacted on behalf of trump to try to overturn the election and poison the lives of americans. it has now resulted in a lot of americans thinking that joe biden did not win legitimately. and so, while i'm happy that he is cooperating potentially, i think that's a good thing for democracy, but it seems like he is doing so to save himself. but at the end of the day, if it means helping democracy, then i'm happy that he is cooperating. >> the lingering effect of the great big lie, it's pretty extraordinary. sara, hannah, renato, thank you very much. renato, we will tweak your audio next, and make sure it's

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right around 3 am. around the time where people were walking out of the bars. this is a downtown tampa area, it's known for clubs and bars. you can imagine the crowds say there was hundreds of people in the streets when the shooting broke out. now, they also reported that they arrested one person who they say was involved in the shooting. he's the only suspect that has been arrested but there was a lot of questions still as to how this happened. we know that there was some type of confrontation as well. here's the police chief speaking overnight about the incident. >> we know at this point is that it was a disturbance or a fight between two groups. and in this fight between the two groups, we had hundreds of innocent people involved, who were in the way. and unfortunately, as a result of that, we have had two that have passed away, and 18 in the hospital with injuries. what happened here is completely unacceptable. and like every other case with

our detectives and our officers and our partners that work together we're gonna hold those accountable and we're gonna bring them to justice. but we need the cooperation of the community for that and that is our ask. >> alex, you should one of the videos that we shared on social media, and we are working to confirm other videos that have been shared also on social media that show the moment that the gunshots erupted in this part of downtown tampa bay. other videos actually show the moment when the gunshots began, people and halloween costumes running away. our affiliate in tampa bay also spoke to a man who says he is the father of one of the victims that died. he said it was his 14-year-old son who was shot and killed in tampa bay. of course, those details have not been confirmed by police. we also have other questions as to how many people could've been there and what type of weapons could've been used. for now, investigators are continuing to ask witnesses for any videos or information that can help them with this

investigation. alex? >> wow. i just got chills thinking about that, it was confirmed that father losing a 14 year old son, terrible. thank you, guad, for that. a democrat in the progressive caucus response to one of his colleagues, calling out israel and president biden, nonsense talk shows. you can hear that and his reaction, next. on, next

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i'm curious of your reaction to the expansion of israel's operation in the gaza strip. is it a fair response to the brutal october 7th hamas attack? >> thank. you what is really important is to remember that israel is trying to defend itself against hamas. brutal terrorists have killed 1400 israelis. like the president has, said israel needs to be able to defend itself and its people. not the same, time it's really important that we remember palestinian lives have the same value as israeli lives. thousands of palestinians, civilians, have died because of the operations. like a growing member of congress, we support humanitarian pause at this moment. we support ensuring gaza receives the food, water, supplies, power, that civilians need there to survive. i think the president is right in reminding us that we have to learn lessons past 9/11. we have to ensure we focus on saving civilian lives at this

moment. israel, of course, continues to face rockets coming into the country and we understand they need to defend themselves. at the same, time you cannot also lose sight of what the most important thing at this moment is -- and that is saving palestinian lives that are in harm's way, that are civilians. >> let me ask you about the nine democrats, all of whom are members of the progressive caucus. you are also a member of that caucus. they voted against a bipartisan house resolution this week that included standing with israel as it defends itself against the barbaric war launched by hamas and other terrorists. there has been a rupture among democrats and the biden administration over this issue. let's now together take a listen to the comments made this morning by house progressive leader in the caucus there, camilla dai paul. >> the existence of israel is absolutely legitimate. i think the world has come to see it as legitimate but there are racists within the netanyahu government and there

are racist policies that israel has been carrying out. i think it is important for us to recognize that we need to be able to recognize the policies of the israeli government and not be called antisemitic. >> your previous answer focused on the need to protect innocent civilians on both sides, essentially. what she said, there do you agree? are some of your colleagues going too far criticizing israel's actions after the horrific attack by hamas? >> look, i think what all my colleagues in the caucus believe is that israel and palestinians are both -- both deserve and have equal values and deserve civilians to be free, successful, carry their families. i support all my colleagues. i think we're going to have a different position on this very important issue. but at the end of the day, we all agree to support, and including all of them have condemned the brutal attacks

against israeli citizens. people have different opinions, but i support all my colleagues. we are all going to move forward, we are all working together to ensure at this very moment that people and civilians are safe. and the same, time we recognize the brutality of hamas as a terrorist organization trying to put major harm on israel. >> okay. let's move to our domestic politics relative to the house. as you will, know it has a new speaker, mike johnson. what are your expectations for his speakership? are democrats ready to work with him after this extended stretch of paralysis in congress? >> unfortunately, the new speaker is an extremist. i think we are learning more and more about him every single day. he supports a national abortion ban. he wants to move lgbtq+ rights backwards. we are learning how extreme his views are as it relates to basic functions of the constitution, like separation of church and state. he is clearly somebody that has an extremist agenda.

he supports unconditionally donald trump. he believes joe biden didn't legitimately win the election. of course, we will try to work with him as he is in the speaker's chair. it's important to note at this moment we have a new extremist speaker, probably the most conservative we've have in decades, and democrats are broadly prepared to push back every single time. >> speaker johnson was on fox news this morning and addressed the investigations into president biden, impeachment efforts. take a listen to what he said. >> i think we have a constitutional responsibility to follow this truth where it leads. we are the rule of law team. we don't use this for political partisan games like the democrats have done and did against donald trump twice. we are going to follow all and follow the constitution. you and i have a suspicion of where that may lead. we will let the evidence speak for itself. >> you are a member of the oversight committee. do you believe him when he says these investigations are not a political partisan game? i think you just shook your head, so that's a big no. >> that was ridiculous, what he

just said. first of, all republicans are the rule of law team? i, mean we are talking about folks that can't even accept an election that was one, they are trying to overthrow an election across the country, whose nominee for president has been indicted multiple times and has caused serious chaos in this country. as far as the investigations, that investigation has gone absolutely nowhere. president biden, as we know, has done absolutely nothing. there is zero evidence that links president biden with any sort of wrongdoing or the business dealings that hunter biden was involved in. he knows, chairman -- the chairman of our committee knows that investigation has gone nowhere, and will continue to present the facts. they need to move on, this is a political witch hunt that donald trump is pulling the strings on. he wants from high-water to impeach president biden. now the speaker is taking his marching words from donald trump. >> all right, democratic congressman robert garcia of california. good to see you again. thank you so much. >> thank you.

>> coming up next, a story that happened yesterday that happened much too soon.

your shipping manager left to “find themself.” leaving you lost. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire >> well, friends and fans around the world are mourning the sudden and shocking death of actor matthew perry. the french star was found yesterday in a hot tub at his home in los angeles, police say no foul play is suspected, but there is no official cause of death yet. today, mourners are laying flowers outside that iconic new york city apartment. nbc's chloe melas has more on

this very sad loss. >> i left a message. i have some pride. >> do you? >> no. >> fans paying tribute to matthew perry, best known for his beloved role as chancellor being on the 90s hit sitcom friends. >> could i be more sorry? >> the 54-year-old found that in his l.a. home on saturday, authorities say he appeared to have drowned. >> you will have to stop the q-tip when there is resistance. >> with a dry and self deprecating wit, perry helped transform france into a 90s cultural touchstone. ♪ ♪ ♪ the show running ten, seasons perry starting in all 234 episodes. >> how many cameras are actually on? you >> harry would go on to star in a string of hit films, like the whole nine yards, and fools russian. >> hi, luke skywalker. >> off screen, he struggled, battling years-long addictions to drugs and alcohol.

>> me? i felt like i was going to die if they didn't laugh. >> the actor said he went to rehab 15 times. detox 65 times. theory detailing his decades long battle in a 22 to memoir titled friends, lovers, and a big terrible thing. in an interview with abc's diane sawyer at the time, he said he found it hard to rewatch old episodes of his most famous show. >> i'm sorry for that guy. because that is a guy that is out of control. >> this morning, tributes pouring in for the 90s tv icon who made us laugh but struggled with his own demons. a statement posted to the official friends instagram account reading, he was a true gift to us all. our heart goes out to his family, loved ones, and all his fans. >> and that was courtney melas reporting there. nbc's dana griffin is in los angeles with more on this. i'm sure you felt it, dana. there's collective heartbreak

over matthew perry's untimely passing yesterday. what are you hearing from fans and people who worked with him? >> absolutely. people have been posting reactions on social media, starting late last night. we didn't get exclusive, but people got an exclusive statement from matthew perry's family, i'm going to be that to you. it says, we are, quote, heartbroken by the tragic loss of our beloved son and brother. matthew brought so much joy to the world, both as an actor and a friend they add you all meant so much to him and we appreciate the tremendous outpouring of love. none of the other friends costars have posted anything yet, but we are hearing people that placed smaller -- in that series played chandler's -- matthew perry, the joy you brought to so many in your two short lived time will live on. i feel so very blessed by every creative moment we shared. more than fairchild, who play

chandler's mother on friends wrote, i'm heartbroken about the untimely debt with of my, quote, son, matthew perry. the loss of such a brilliant young actor is a shock. i'm sending 11 condolences to his friends and family. overnight, fans gathered in new york outside the friends apartment. here is what they had to say. >> i just finished his book like earlier this year on audible. i think he really fought to have, like, a great life. it's kind of sad that he made it out on the other side. >> it's kind of a big deal. he's the first friend to go. i brought a little candle and put it over there. >> when you have 50, for he is so young. we just looked at it as such a tragedy, he had so much more to give and so much more life to live. he's been through a lot. it is just sad. >> according to tmz, perry drowned in a jacuzzi. nbc news has not independently

confirmed that. but something people are pointing, to one of the last as graham posts that perry made, was about six days ago he was sitting inside that pool and he wrote oh so warm water swirling around makes you feel good. i'm that man. police have said that, have confirmed his death and they say that at no point foul play has been involved. alex? >> dana, thank you for that report. matthew perry, known for his role and comedic ability to deliver one liners on friends. gone too soon at the age of 54. knows it's easy to get lost in investment research. get help with j.p morgan personal advisors. hey, david! ready to get started? work with advisors who create a plan with you, and help you find the right investments. >> a quick look at today's

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other top stories. investigators in maine are looking into the mass shooter's mental health history, as the motive remains unclear. authorities also say the gunman left a note with back formation

and his phone pasco. the community will gather for a public vigil tonight. meanwhile, the united auto workers union reached a tentative deal with audio maker -- the second major deal in the ongoing, strike securing higher based wages and up to 5000 jobs. and mike pence is the latest republican candidate to suspend his 2024 campaign. the former vice president made the surprise announcement at an event in las vegas. he said he has no regrets about running. pence faced fundraising struggles and lagging poll numbers. that is going to do it for me obviously decision of alex reports. i will see you tuesday at three pm. of course, next saturday at noon eastern. my good friend yasmin vossoughian continues our coverage right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> hey, everybody. good afternoon to you. i'm yasmin vossoughian on a very busy sunday afternoon. we are watching developments in gaza very closely, as israel is ramping up its next phase with increased attacks on the ground