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thank you for being back with us for our second hour of "chris jansing reports." we start with breaking news. a moment of much needed hope right now for the families of the hundreds of hostages being held captive by hamas. israel says it has freed a female soldier during a ground operation. the idf says it's doing everything it can to release the others. but for those living in gaza, the military is doubling down on its calls for the civilians in the north to move south saying that warning is now, quote, urgent. where is safe to go? one 14-year-old pulled from the rubble told nbc news she had fled south to they are aunt's house and that the home was bombed while they were baking bread. she heartbreakingly told our nbc news crew, quote, i wish we can live safely like all children of the world. israel continues to pound gaza as tensions are mounting on the ground. with the united nations agency
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there saying thousands of palestinians, quote, broke into several u.n. rwa warehouses and distribution centers over the weekend taking wheat, flour and other basic survival items like hygiene supplies. nbc's raf sanchez is on the ground in jerusalem for us this hour. raf, we just got that extraordinary news that a hostage has been released. what more do we know. >> reporter: yeah, chris, in just the last hour, we have been seeing celebrations outside her family home in the south of israel. she is an israeli soldier, her name is private ori megadish, d the first israeli hostage to be rescued by israeli troops since the hamas terrorist attack on october 7th. the israeli military says she's in good condition physically. they have released a phograph of her reunited with her family. obviously we do not know, chris, what she's seen, what she has been through over the last three weeks, but she's smiling and
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at least from the outside, she appears to be in physically good health. now, this has been just an enormous moment of relief for her family, but it is also a bright spot for the families of the other 230 or so hostages being held inside of gaza, raising spirits that there may be a chance, even if negotiations do not work, that israel may by force of arms be able to recover their loved ones. prime minister benjamin netanyahu has been speaking in the last hour, and he's been addressing the concern that many of the families the hostages had that once the ground operations inside gaza started, the window for negotiating release of the hostages might close. i want you to take a listen to a little bit of what he had to say. >> the ground action creates the possibility, not the certainty, but the possibility of getting our hostages out because hamas will not do it unless they're
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under pressure. they simply will not do it. they only do it under pressure. this creates pressure. >> reporter: now, chris, you see there, the prime minister kind of reversing the families' fears on their heads, saying rather than the ground offensive limiting the chances of recovering the hostages, he argues it actually increases the pressure on hamas, and will increase their willingness to negotiate. now, the term that has been bandied around here, chris, over the weekend, is an everyone for everyone deal. the families of the hostages are saying israel should agree to release all palestinian prisoners being held right now inside of palestinian prisons in return for the release of these 239 or so hostages. the leader of hamas inside gaza says he's open to that deal. chris, his name is sinwar, he himself was sentenced to life in an israeli prison for killing not just israeli troops but fellow palestinians, but he was
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released in one of these large scale prisoner swaps when israel released a thousand palestinians to secure a single soldier, gilad shalit held by hamas for five years. israel is dismissing the possibility of that large scale deal as psychological games being played by hamas right now. but i can tell you, chris, there is certainly a new spirit of optimism at this hour anyway about the prospect of getting those hostages out. chris. >> that is what they have now is hope, raf sanchez, thank you for that. i want to bring in colin clark, the director of policy and research at the su find group. you have two sides opposed bibi netanyahu made clear only under pressure is hamas going to release the hostages. then you have the hostage families. they have been wanting to be heard.
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they truly believe that this es -- escalation on the ground will make it more difficult. they're talking about everyone for everyone as raf just said. help us to understand these two conflicting sides. >> first of all, thanks for having me. i think it's interesting when you heard netanyahu talking about the pressure being applied to hamas, you only heard him talking about military pressure. he didn't say anything about diplomatic pressure. we know in previous conflicts that's what is been successful in securing the release of hostages. a ramped up ground invasion, using israeli forces to go on raids, to secure the release of hostages to get them back is extremely risky. and i sympathize with the families calling for an all for all swap. that's probably the way they can guarantee that all of these people come home alive. it's a very complex situation, one that's likely going to get
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more complicated over the coming days. >> israel has been very clear, at least netanyahu has is that the goal is to get rid of hamas once and for all. there are lots of voices who argue that's just not possible. is it or is the real question how do you contain hamas as best as possible? >> yeah, well from studying terrorists and insurgent groups and the history of these groups, more often than not, it's almost impossible to completely eradicate them. the way you end conflicts is, you know, bring them into some kind of a political settlement. now, that doesn't mean there aren't individuals, hard liners that need to be captured. but they have to look at what kind of a future do the palestinian people have for a state so we can avoid situations repeating like this 12, 18 months down the line where, you know, we're engaged in political
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violence. israel calls it mowing the lawn. how do we grow to a sustainable settlement that involves a palestinian state at some point. >> if you look at where we are right now, there are lots of reports that suggest hamas is ready to be in this for some time. "the new york times" writes, hamas has carbs of ammunition, and stockpiles of food, water and medicine, the officials said. a senior lebanese official said hamas had enough stocked away to keep fighting for three to four months without resupply. does that sound right to you? are they prepared to keep going for a long time? >> well, clearly they're prepared, and i think that's one of the situations that led to the -- where we are now with israeli intelligence underestimating hamas, underestimating their capables.
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underestimating their resolve. they're clearly playing the long game. we know that politicians tend to be myopic, shortsighted, focused on reelection, staying in power. terrorists and insurgent groups are operating on a completely different time line. i have no doubt that hamas is prepared to be in this for the long run. israel needs to take that into account. >> the world health organization has once again urged israel to rescind its evacuation order, saying it's impossible to clear out hospitals without risking the lives of patients. just the idea that you can move some of these patients will kill them. we have seen how the south has gotten bombarded. we have had horror stories of people escaping to the south, only to find themselves in situations where their families are killed. where can people go? where should they be expected to flee? >> look, this is part of the, you know, the back and forth
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between each of these sides. a lot of this conflict is taking place in the information environment. it's not just taking place on the battlefield, and i think we need to consider what happens to the civilians here? . we're seeing daily images of brutal suffering, and that's going to leave an impression on the international community. we need to consider letting aid in, aid groups, journalists. from what i'm hearing, that's really not possible. it's really difficult to know exactly what's going on and to be able to advise. what are the best practices and lessons learned from previous conflicts that will help avoid civilian casualties. i think that's got to be a big focus of some of the conversations taking place at the diplomatic level right now. >> colin clarke, thank you so much. appreciate you coming on the program. as we mentioned, that one hostage, an israeli soldier is now free. nbc's josh lederman is live in jerusalem for us. so just one, there were four previously who were released but what do we know about the rest of the hostages, josh?
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>> reporter: well, chris, we know that the number of hostages believed to be in the gaza strip is actually growing. it is now in the upper 230s range. just a couple of days ago, israel thought it was closer to 229. the reason for that is because as they continue to identify the bodies of people who were killed in the terror attack here in israel, they're able to cross reference it against the list of the missing and figure out by process of elimination who is now in israel. of course the number has dropped by one. israel has managed to free one of its soldiers, in the first operation since the start of the war that has freed an israeli troop. we also know that hamas is saying that it does not plan to voluntarily release any of the hostages who are israeli troops. they only will agree to release potentially civilians while saying any troops would have to be freed in a prisoner exchange, and that is raises questions for prime minister netanyahu about whether it's time to have a
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cease fire that could push hamas, and create conditions for more hostages to be released. netanyahu responding to that criticism, that question, and also his view about what should happen with these hostages in remarks he gave a few minutes ago to the foreign press. take a listen. >> most despicably, hamas is holding over 200 israeli hostages, including 33 children. holding them, terrorizing them, keeping them as hostages. every civilized nation should stand with israel in demanding that these hostages be freed immediately, and freed unconditionally. >> reporter: but of course we also heard prime minister netanyahu in that rare press conference that he gave here in israel asked, okay, but what about a cease fire. could that potentially lead to the goal he laid out of freeing the rest of the hostages. prime minister netanyahu making clear, while israel is doing everything possible to bring
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those hostages home, he is not entertaining a cease fire at this time, and he does not think that it's an appropriate question for people to be asking israeli right now for it to unilaterally stop its military action in the gaza strip, considering the goal they feel is so imperative to israel's basic existence to completely eliminate hamas, chris. >> josh lederman, thank you. up next, fighting anti-semitism on college campuses. we're back in 60 seconds with a live report from columbia university. where students are taking a stand right now. ch] [car door slam] [camera shutter sfx] introducing ned's plaque psoriasis. [camera shutter sfx] he thinks his flaky, red patches are all people see. otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. [ned?] it can help you get clearer skin and reduce itching and flaking. with no routine blood tests required. doctors have been prescribing it for nearly a decade.
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a jewish center. nbc's stephanie gosk is following all of this for us. stephanie, what did you hear from students at columbia? >> reporter: you know, chris, it's becoming a common refrain, not just here at columbia, but at a number of universities in this country, jewish students are saying they feel unsafe. a group of 30 students held a press conference, and laid out how they are feeling and also some of the incidents they experienced, including anti-semitism, violence, threats of violence online. there's one incident where an israeli student is posting posters of the hostages taken in israel and was attacked. that person is now facing four charges. two of them are for hate crimes. there was also a swastika that was painted on the side of the building. the students basically saying they want the university to do more than what it's doing. take a listen to what one of them had to say.
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>> while the statements condemning identity based hope, gave students hope the administration would take concrete actions. the university's actions have made us question whether columbia university can actually maintain an environment where all students feel welcome and safe on campus. this hate will not disappear on its own. >> reporter: so one of the points that these students made what they were talking here today is it is not just anti-semitism. there has been islamophobia as well. because of these incidents, they are unable to hold the kind of good faith debate on the issues that you often hear on college campuses, chris. >> stephanie gosk, thank you so much for that. this alarming uptick of antesemitic incidents since the war began, combat hateful rhetoric. the departments of justice and
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homeland security will partner with campus law enforcement to track hate-related rhetoric online. the administration says dozens of cyber security and protective security experts have now been sent to work directly with schools as they navigate this tense and intense moment. meantime, the landlord accused of killing a 6-year-old palestinian american boy and critically injuring his mother in an alleged hate crime outside of chicago has just pled not guilty to murder and hate crime charges against him. 71-year-old joseph chuba screamed you muslims have to die when he barged in fatally stabbed wade, wadea's mother never suspected he would hurt wadea. he was like a grandfather for him, and saying he actually ran toward him for a hug, and was stabbed 26 times. nbc's maggie vespa has the latest for us.
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maggie, prosecutors have said they have a mountain of evidence. the defense team elaborated on that not guilty plea. tell us what happens now. >> yeah, so basically, chris, shuba's public defender met with reporters today, after his client had pleaded not guilty to eight felony counts, including murder and hate crime charges. essentially his client is pleading not guilty because his defense team is getting ready to conduct their own investigation into this attack, which happened a couple of weeks ago on saturday, october 14th. so while they conduct their own investigation, they're basically having him plead not guilty to protect his rights. but, again, a couple of weeks ago, basically one week after the hamas attacks in israel, prosecutors say joseph czuba, the 71-year-old landlord, attacked a mother and 6-year-old boy because prosecutors said, according to czuba's own wife had become obsessed with the
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attacks in israel and became convinced that his tenants, a mom and a little kid were going to hurt him. again, they said they have spoken to his wife, spoken to him. prosecutors coming down with eight felony counts, naming him as the only suspect nation. we talked about the mom, hanaan shahin in this case. she was stabbed 12 times. according to police and prosecutors, she miraculously survived. she is out of the hospital. she is recovering. through a statement released through the council on american islamic relations asking for the public to pray for peace, and calling her son her best friend. chris. >> maggie vespa, thank you so much for that. towing the line, trump's plan to fight back against his recently reinstated gag order by judge tanya chutkan, and the penalties trump could face if he continues to face the gaggle of
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middle of my campaign for president. chutkan's nine-page order had rejected tt ruling quote, contrary to the defendant's argument, the right to a fair trial is not his alone, but also belongs to the government and the public. the order bans trump from making statements about potential witnesses or disparaging comments about prosecutors, court staff, or support personnel. joining us now, carol lam, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. at the heart of the latest decision were comments donald trump made about a potential witness, mark meadows, which chutkan called harmful and prejudicial. do you envision this gag order staying in effect for the entire trial? >> i think that donald trump is not going to win his appeal because the judge has taken a very measured approach to thchlt she has taken her time. she has put this gag order on hold to allow some of these
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issues to get aired and to allow it to go before the appellate court. as soon as she put it on hold, donald trump took advantage of that, and went ahead and made comments he should not have made. then she imposed the gag order. there's a high likelihood her order is going to be upheld by the court of appeals, and the reason is the court of appeals is staffed by judges. they understand the importance of having a fair administration of justice in the courtroom, and donald trump has shown that he's really not interested in what goes on in the courtroom with respect to respecting the judicial system. he is playing a political game here. >> he did it again this morning. he posted on social media, trashing the judge. i mean, would that break the just reinstated gag order? and if it does, whether that does or he does it in the future, what's next then? >> one of the enforcement
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mechanisms that judge chutkan has available. we have seen in the trial in new york city that the judge has imposed a financial fine. first it was $5,000, then he did it again, and then another $10,000, and certainly the financial fines can be imposed. they can be increased, doubled, go up geometrically. there are other steps she can take before the step of putting him in custody until the trial, which is an unlikely scenario. she could for example have him under house arrest for a defined period of time. maybe it's only a day to begin with. maybe it's a couple of days, and then if necessary, if he continues to push the envelope here and cross lines that she has cautioned him not to cross, he can also be placed in custody. but again, maybe for a limited period of time, just to demonstrate to him that the judge is serious. >> i want to ask you about trump's $250 million civil fraud trial.
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it's in its fifth woke but the ante just got up pretty significantly. starting wednesday, some of the president's oldest children are going to take the stand in the case that threatens to permanently ban the company from doing business in new york. first up is donald trump jr. on wednesday. how significant could testimony from trump's children be in this case? >> this is a very awkward situation obviously for both donald trump and his children as well. this is a civil trial that you're talking about, the $215 million, and because in a criminal trial, life and liberty are at stake, a defendant has additional protections, but those protections are not as strong in a civil trial. so, for example, in a criminal trial, a defendant has a right not to testify in he or she defense. the prosecution can't call them as a witness. that's not true in a civil case. as you see here, the state is calling the defendants
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themselves, his sons are defendants in this civil trial, to testify. now, they can assert the fifth amendment, but again, a difference between a civil and criminal trial. in a criminal trial if the witness takes the fifth, you cannot comment on it. in a civil trial, if the witness takes the fifth amendment, you can argue to the fact finder, the judge, that in fact there's a reason they're taking the fifth and that is because they were involved in some misconduct. and if they do testify, which i think they're likely to do t that testimony essentially waives their right to assert the fifth amendment in the future on that subject matter in a criminal time. this is a tough decision that they have to make. but it appears likely they will testify probably because their father wants them to. >> carol lam. thank you as always.
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trump' lal troubles don't appear to be slowing down in the re the republican prtial, this des moines register mediacom poll, donald trump, 27 points up on everybody else. nikki haley and ron desantis tied in second now with 16%. we want to hear more about why. so nbc's shaquille brewster is in des moines, iowa. what are voters there telling you, shaq? >> reporter: we talked to some of the participants of that poll. to go beyond the numbers that you saw in the poll and get them to explain some of the trends that we have been hearing. il the poll showed that former president trump definitely has a lot of support in the state of iowa, that support, his lead in that poll isofter than what you see in national polling. i want you to listen to what they told us about why they ma be, starting with someone who mentioned the conversation you were just having about his legal
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troubles. >> it's just always in the news. i don't feel that he's, i guess, a man of character if he's having all of these issues. i just feel like that's going to interfere with his leadership as our president. >> i think i have -- and this is a term i've heard a lot -- trump fatigue. i was willing to support him. i think he did a really good job. he followed through with what he said he was going to, but it just got exhausting. >> i still think i'm voting for the person, you know. he fought his entire career when he was presidential, he was fighting an up hill battle and look at the accomplishments he made. second time if he's going to hopefully get elected, he knows the playing board, the playing field. he accomplished so much in a short period of time, i believe he'll be able to do it again. >> reporter: something else that we sensed in those conversations that were mirrored by the poll results is this gap in enthusiasm. folks who say they're going to
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support former president trump are with him. there's not much that can change their minds. however, those who are considering candidates like ron desantis or nikki haley, they're saying that they're still listening, still watching the process. they are going to continue to show up to events. they're watching the debates. there's room for things to shift. that's why you have candidates coming back to iowa. they know it's important, and they think they have opportunity here. the majority of respondents in the poll chose a candidate who wasn't donald trump. >> shaq brewster, thank you so much. dozens of arrests made after a mob stormed a russian airport searching planes for jewish people who had arrived on a flight from tel aviv. where the investigation stands next. vestigation stands next ameritrade is now part of schwab. bringing you an elevated experience, tailor-made for trader minds. go deeper with thinkorswim: our award-wining trading platforms. unlock support from the schwab trade desk,
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israel's military says it struck 450 targets in gaza in a single day. part of what it calls its second stage of the war againsthamas. "the washington post" writes the early movements even near term objectives of the israel military gro assauain shrouded, not so much by the fog of war but secrecy. the ahorities watched over by military sensors are issuing sentences, not pages of information about what exactly is happening. what do we know about the fighting in gaza, and israel's strategy going forward?
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here's msnbc national security contributor, clint watts, clint? >> reporter: over the last few days, israel has started the second phase of the ground invasion of gaza. look back to last thursday night, we saw them conduct what is known as a breach operation, getting through the perimeter fronts to the north. a couple of days later, they did a second breach and created what we calm an assembly area, there in the north of gaza. that's likely to cut off any forces from the hamas militants who might try and move north for the main effort which we're seeing this morning. juhor, is an area right here. we have combat operations right there. infantry, tanks, all of the israeli military in shoot outs there. also moving up the main artery toward gaza city, it looks like they're in constant contact. hamas militants, israeli military, firing up and down the streets. this is going to be the area we
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might see intense conflict. lots of artillery. secondly, everyone wants to know about the humanitarian situation down here. some trucks are getting across the border. not enough trucks from egypt into the rafah camp and crossing area to keep the humanitarian situation under control. so the question is how intense will this combat be up in the north of gaza, and then what is the humanitarian situation down to the south. this all brings us to the larger issues that have cropped up over the weekend. israel, once they crossed into a gaza, iran said they crossed a red line. what would other iranian proxy organizations do to maybe open up another front. we saw israel do air strikes in syria over the weekend, hitting what they said were military and
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infrastructure targets, to southern lebanon, increased rocket attacks from hezbollah going deeper into the country, past the 3 kilometer mark, which is very nontraditional for some of the exchanges we have seen there. we have heard reports that hezbollah has taken a drone down, israeli drone down inside lebanon. secondly, we saw protests over the weekend in the occupied west bank, and that comes alongside many protests, that we have seen towards the situation in israel and gaza. the question moving forward is how aggressive will israel's ground invasion be in northern gaza, and will a multifront war open, the whole middle east region is on high alert to see if this expands to a much larger conflict. >> clint watts, thank you for that. at least 60 people were arrested in southern russia after a mob stormed an airport searching planes for jewish people who had arrived on a flight from tel aviv. 20 people were injured in the riot. two of them critically. nbc's david noriega is following this story for us.
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authorities there have opened an investigation, as i understand it, what more can you tell us? >> yesterday evening a large group of people gathered outside the airports, the capital of daga stan, an important part of the north region in russia. a large portion of that crowd forcibly breached the airport, stormed the tarmac, and we know from the social media activity leading up to the incident, they were specifically and actively looking for jews, passengers on the plane from tel aviv. a lot of this seems to have been instigated or coordinated on social media. telegram channels posted information about the flight from tel aviv. a red wings flight from tel aviv yesterday evening. jews in russia and around the world responded in horror, they say it's an indication of the
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heightened degree of danger that they're facing as a result of the conflict in israel. as far as the kremlin's response, on the one hand, they're making an effort to show they're taking this seriously. they did open an investigation and make numerous arrests quickly. the federal government itself is handling the investigations. putin and highest ranking ministers are involved in the response. they're trying to blame everyone except for russia itself. they have blamed western intelligence agencies, ukraine. putin made remarks a few minutes ago, which he did so, not for the first time. ukraine for its part is denying it played any role in the violence, back to you, chris. >> david noriega, thank you. the house is set to vote on a stand alone israel aid package. will democratic lawmakers also seeking aid for ukraine support the package on the floor? i'll ask one of them, congressman jared moskowitz of california next. d moskowitz of california next. tardive dyskine.
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newly minted house speaker mike johnson isn't wasting any time setting the stage for a huge battle for u.s. aid that could help decide the outcome of two wars, the one in gaza, the other in ukraine. johnson wants to vote on israel aid later this week. his plan is to put it up as a stand up bill, directly defying not only white house democrats but republican leaders in the senate as well.
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i want to bring in florida democratic congressman, jared moskowitz. if he brings the israeli aid bill to the floor as a stand alone, will you vote for it? >> thanks, chris, thanks for having me. i'm deeply concerned with the fact that right out of the gate, the thing the speaker wants to do is immediately divide us and divide our allies. this was about making sure we're supporting israel and ukraine, something that there is bipartisan support for on both issues and in both chambers. and so the fact that the speaker is separating it he's obviously taking the politically easy way out, so he doesn't have to deal with the right wing members of the party. the thing is, i am going to vote for it, but first before i do that, i need to see what they're doing can the cuts. they're only going to supply the 14 1/2 billion dollars by
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cutting from somewhere else. they have not told us where they want to cut us from and violates the rule the republicans have set themselves, which is they said they want single subject spending bills. now they're going to take israel, one subject, and cuts from somewhere else, another subject and put them together. if they want to do cuts, then we should spend less money, which i'm for, by the way, i'm for spending less money as an american family has to do that, but we should take that up and down vote without mixing with foreign policy. >> you're a yes, a qualified yes. you could see perhaps some kinds of cuts that would make you say, wait, this isn't something that i can sign on it. >> i'm not going to cut social security or medicare in exchange for my support from israel. look, no one is as supportive of israel and the jewish community as i am. i'm not going to trade that off for support of my seniors in my community, and the fact that they're willing to weaponize the most important moment for
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israel, and the most important moment for the jewish community as we are under attack everywhere in the world, that in this country is deeply concerning. let's see what they propose and i'll make my judgment from there. >> i want to play part of what speaker johnson said last week about aid for ukraine. >> we can't allow vladimir putin to prevail in ukraine because i don't believe it would stop there, and it would probably encourage and empower china to perhaps make a move on taiwan. we have these concerns. we're not going to abandon them, but we have a responsibility, a stewardship responsibility over the precious treasure of the american people, and we have to make sure that the white house is providing the people with some accountability for the dollars and we want to know what the objective there is, what is the end game in ukraine? >> do you think he has a legitimate point there? >> well, first of all, listen, he's got the right position, and it's a bipartisan position, which is we cannot let vladimir putin succeed in ukraine because it won't stop there. so that's a well known accepted position which is why president
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biden has been right from the beginning and has done a great job bringing the world together on behalf of ukraine. seeing a u.n. security council member invade a sovereign nation. as far as transparency, accounting, sure, there's nothing wrong with that. bring the funding forward so we can support ukraine on a timely basis. this was supposed to be done months ago already. bring those checks and balances forward. this is american taxpayer money. of course we should make sure it's being spent correctly. but he needs to bring it forward. >> i want to ask you about gun violence. you have a personal connection as alum of marjorie stoneman douglas high school and working as a legislature in florida when that shooting took 17 lives. recently your colleague from maine, democrat derek goldman switched positions on an assault weapons ban after 18 people were murdered in a mass shooting in
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his state. there was a question raised and i just want to raise it with you, do you think anything short of experiencing something like this personally is going to move the needle for enough of your fellow lawmakers to change laws, to have tougher new laws? >> chris, that's a really good question, it's something that i have thought about since, you know, february 14, almost six years ago now, because on that very day, one of the initial things that i did was i invited the speaker of the house, both republicans republican colleagues of mine, and more republicans came to the school within 36 hours, and it was them seeing the school, and not just talking about it on tv from a distance, but getting up close and personal, and seeing what it looks like when your school is turned into a war zone to see what it looks like when someone
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brings weapons of war into a school. it's how we forged a bipartisan bill, raised the age to 21 in florida, three-day waiting periods, red flag laws, it's been used 9,000 times now in the state of florida, and six years later in state controlled completely by the other side, that bill still stands. signed by rick scott, right, not a moderate, rick scott, and so we all experienced that together, and it's why i'm bringing republican colleagues through the building. brought republican congressmen through the building just the other day, and you could tell it had a profound impact on them. you don't come out the same person. i know what congressman golden is going through now. he's talking to families who he met at the reunification center. now he's going to be attending funerals, and then it will be memorials, and then, you know, ultimately these families are never going to be the same, and the community is never going to be the same, and it was all
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preventible. i mean, there's a second amendment. we respect the second amendment. no one's trying to take anyone's guns away but can we at least degree that mentally ill people, people who were just in a mental institution over the summer because they're hearing voices in their head shouldn't be able to get a weapon of war. can we at least agree on that, and that's where we have to find common ground. obviously i'm for an assault weapons bound, while we're waiting for the votes on that, we have to figure out how we're going to do other things. it's clear, mentally ill people and weapons of war continue to lead to these horrific mass shootings. >> congressman, jared moskowitz, thank you, i appreciate you coming on the show. >> thanks, chris. the united auto workers 45 day strike come to an end as the union and gm reach a deal. we've got all the details live from ohio, next. details live from ohio, next. ience unparalleled coverage on america's smart network. and save up to 40% on your monthly bill.
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biden confirming an historic deal between the united auto workers and the last of the big three auto makers. here's what he said. >> i have just spoken with president fain of the united auto workers, and let me say a few words about uaw and the big three auto makers. ford, general motors, and stellantis. they have reached a historic agreement and a hard fought agreement that was really battled for a while. but it was all done in good faith. >> nbc's jesse kirsch was in streetsboro, ohio, for us. jesse, what can you tell us about this latest agreement, and do we know when all of them could be ratified? >> the way the ratification works, these agreements, tentative agreements get presented @memberships, the rank and file union members will vote
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on if they want to ratify the agreement. however, the union has told workers from stellantis and ford who have been on strike to return to the job. we have not yet heard from the uaw on a tentative agreement from general motors. our colleagues at cnbc have been reporting that according to sources, there is a tentative agreement, president biden just confirmed this saying that he spoke with the uaw's president, shawn fain, we know that the president of course had joined the uaw picket line making history, doing so when he joined uaw workers on the picket line weeks ago. it's been going on more than six weeks now. we continue to see what the uaw will say about the terms of a potential agreement with gm. what we know based on what we have seen from the ford and stellantis tentative agreements, and the gm agreement as well is a range of things that the union is touting, including 25% base wage increases, retirement
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benefits improved, job security in the electric vehicles space, which is something the president has prioritized. it's been a concerning point for auto workers we have talked with throughout the strike. those are just some of the things the union is touting and what it describes as a record contract. here's what we heard from a gm worker earlier today. >> bargainers do their job. they are presented with something, and we get to tell them it was good enough or it wasn't. >> christmas, you know, thanksgiving, the new year. that will help, you know. i think we have an agreement, so something's on the floor, so we know we won't be out here long. >> reporter: we'll wait to see a final word, now appears to be wrapping up. >> jesse kirsch, thank you, and that does it for this hour. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports"
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