and i've kept it off. the idf would suggest that theh you said has been reported golo is real, our customers are real, killed though we have not been able to independently confirm that, but he was a leader of the and our success stories are real. why not give it a try? october 7th attack and relative to those 50 you say were killed, the idf would suggest it is a bunch of terrorists. a large number. so, wherein lies the truth? how difficult is it to nail that down in the fog of war, richard? >> reporter: it is extraordinarily difficult. for the last several hours, we've been contacting both the israeli military. we've been contacting the, our own teams inside gaza. we've been contacting and trying to contact health officials. some of the messages have been good to be with you. posted on facebook pages by i'm alex whit in for katy tur. hospitals inside gaza. israel's ground operation is particularly the indonesian pushing deeper into northern gaza. you are looking at newly hospital in gaza city.

released video showing israeli but it is extraordinarily troops operating inside the complex in this complex because strip. you have the israeli army, which now, the idf says it has struck is fighting a war and which is fighting a war against hamas and more than 300 targets since inside gaza, there are very few yesterday including compounds reporters. the reporters who are there are inside underground tunnels. operating under themselves under fire. there's not much power to speak of in the gaza strip. they are using solar power when possible during the day. the government information some have generators. office in gaza says at least 20 homes were completely destroyed. very difficult to move around. elsewhere, civilians are once but luckily, we do have several again sifting through rubble for very courageous teams operating throughout gaza in the north, their loved ones and the injured central gaza, and in the south are running out of places to go. generators at two central and they've been able to give us not just daily, but hourly hospitals are expected to stop updates of the situation. working tomorrow. the palestinian red crescent says that zero fuel has been they describe an area that is brought in on aid trucks since under a humanitarian collapse an the rafah crossing opened more and area under constant than a week ago. the risk of infant dehydration bombardment in all of the gaza strip. >> we are certainly seeing deaths is at an all time high evidence of all of that. with just 5% of normal water

many thanks for that report. joining us right now, senior adviser to prime minister supplies available. and given israel's stance, it's netanyahu and former israeli only going to get worse. prime minister netanyahu is still rejecting calls for a ambassador to the u.k. humanitarian cease fire. i will ask his senior adviser mr. ambassador, thank you for about what alternatives israel joining me. we know israeli forces are might be weighing. moving deeper into the north. earlier today, secretary of state blinken's testimony was hamas' military wing has said today there were encounters with idf ground forces. interrupted loudly by protesters can you give us updates on those urging america to act. details? >> so we have just had a missile attack on tel aviv. >> brutal massacre, 66% of had to vacate the studio for three minutes. americans -- i'm glad i could come back to >> if the witness wants to your broadcast. stand, i ask everyone respect -- i think it was the third missile we will suspend until the room attack today on tel aviv. the cleared. >> calling on a cease fire! the terrorists in gaza continue to fire randomly into civilian shame on you all! areas, urban areas, trying to cease fire now! disrupt the life of israel. cease fire now! thank goodness we have our cease fire now! missile defense system which cease fire now! works quite effectively and cease fire now! manages to shoot down most of the incoming rockets. >> cease fire now! as to our operation in gaza, we are not giving out too many details. we don't want to give >> cease fire now!

hamas who >> those protests went on are always listening in, sporadically throughout his advanced warning of what we're testimony. we're going to start with the planning to do. reporting. the only thing i can say to you joining us from the israel gaza border, richard engel. is that we're going to keep up the pressure on hamas. welcome. so walk us through where ground at the same time, making a maximum effort not to have operations stand at this hour innocent civilians caught up in and what do we know about this the cross fire between us and the terrorists. >> let me ask you more about that, sir, because the idf says blast in jabalia? it has hit more than 300 targets >> the israeli military has just since yesterday and they say that includes hamas compounds released a statement talking about the ground fighting in underground. however, we are also seeing general and what happened in devastation in the heavily jabalia. populated civilian areas. a bit earlier, the gaza health according to the israeli military, there is now intense ministry said the jabalia street fighting going on in the refugee camp was hit by a gaza strip. they are fighting with rifles massive blast. the idf however said they killed and they are fighting in close about 50 terrorists. combat and the israeli military not a specific number, but many said israeli soldiers have been terrorists today. killed. can you first of all confirm that two idf families have been this camp was hit by israeli rocket fire? notified so this is talking about two idf troops being >> hitting hamas targets across killed in close combat inside northern gaza. the gaza strip. the israeli version of events they have their home command and

about what happened in gaza is control center, underground the following. israel says that it carried out tunnels and command mosts and a strike in gaza and it said it was targeting a hamas leader of fortifications. what has happened when you see the photographs of destruction, when he hit an underground the, one of the top leaders that tunnel, because they built the tunnel near urban areas, which was associated or involved with is a war crime because they're the october 7th massacres and in that attack while carrying out using gazan civilians as a humid that strike, that there was a shield, in this case, the command structure below the buildings collapse. now, if we hit a military target buildings or below the area that was hit and that it collapsed and because it's an underground target, it causes the buildings and that when it did collapse, it caused even greater damage to alongside to collapse. the area. the palestinians are not we've asked the civilian confirming that a hamas leader population to vacate the area. was targeted or that there was any hamas infrastructure in the area but medical officials do most have. we saw what they did on october 7th when they butchered our say that there are about 50 people. we saw the sort of massacres and brutality they're capable of. people killed in the strike and we are going to destroy hamas maybe 100 or more injured in and in the process in getting just in that particular rid of hamas, we're doing a incident. favor not only to the people of now, the jabalia refugee camp is israel who will be safer and more secure without this a densely populated area. terrorist enclave on our

it is on the northern edge of gaza city. southern border, but it will be according to witnesses and the better for the people of gaza who deserve better than this israeli military, israeli troops terrible terrorist regime. >> to that end, the fact they are now fighting very close to need to leave their homes for gaza city. that which you say is burrowed they've pushed in so far in gaza in this rolling ground offensive under their buildings. the prime minister says there are safe zones in the southern that their troops have reached the outskirts of gaza city and are according to the israeli region, but so far, our report irs are not seeing evidence of military, now engaged in close them. the united nations has said combat. there are no safe areas so where that is the first time we've are they? heard any israelis talking about and how are their locations being communicated to those on street fighting using rifles, not just air strikes, tanks, and the ground looking for shelter? >> so what we're worki on with artillery. the united states and with other >> i want to have our director members of the international return us to some of those live communy is in the southern end pictures now underway as we give o the gaza strip on the coast you a look from southern israel into gaza. you can see the presence of actually. so it's on the western side on rocket and shelling attacks the side of the gaza strip very right there. let me ask you something with close to the crossing with regard to what's been reported. egypt. there's going to be, we're preparing for a safe zone. there, there'souilt up areas where ham has built its infrastructure, its tunnels, missiles so forth. it largely open area.

there, the idea is to build a massive facility for the displaced people from the north and because it's close to the bord with egypt, that's where the aid is com in, so they'll be right on the receiving end of humanitarian support. water, food, medicine. humanitarian aid will go directly to them. that's the plan and i think we'll see that expand over the next couple of days. >> that's the plan as of now, but you're implying it has yet to be implemented and yet the prime minister said it was already in place. >> it's a work in progress. it's happening as we speak. the majority, the overwhelming majority of people in northern gaza have taken our advice to get out of harm's way, not to be caught up in the cross fire between israel and the hamas terrorists and have moved to the south. and obviously it's a war situation. it's not easy. i think there are difficulties involved. i can understand the hardships. my father is a refugee. i know it's not easy, but surely it's preferable to move out of a

war zone than stay in. what sensible person stays in a war zone? they move out. they have voted with their feet. the trouble, the major problem we have is hamas has put up obstacles. there are documented cases of hamas establishing roadblocks to prevent people from evacuating. they're telling the civilian population you have to sacrifice yourself for our cause. you have to become martyrs to our jihad so to speak. they're showing the world the weight they attach to the lives of the gaza civilians. we know they're brutal toward israelis. that's been documented in the massacre of october 7th but they are brutal to their own people. they don't care a hoot about the civilian population of gaza other than that they are a human shield for their military machine. you know, in normal countries like the united states and israel, the job of the military is to protect the public.

hamas inverts that. job of the public is to protect their terrorist military machine and that's the truth. >> all right. i'm told just quickly how many safe zones have been established or are in the process at this time? >> we're talking about one large zone there on the western edge of the southern gaza strip near the coast. so theoretically, they can be supplied by humanitarian aid not only from the south from the crossing with egypt, but also from the sea. >> all right. >> we're also talking about evacuating people who need to be evacuated to hospitals and building field hospitals there. mesh type hospitals for the people who need it. there's going to be a major international effort to help establish this so the people can find relative safety out of the combat zones. >> i've been given more time to ask an important question. when it comes to lessening the death toll in gaza i want your thoughts on new reporting saying that an israeli government ministry, a junior one, has

drafted a wartime proposal to transfer the gaza strip's 2.3 million people to egypt's sinai peninsula. the prime minister's office down played that. but why draft it because this reporting would suggest it could deepen long standing fears that israel is trying to turn gaza into now egypt's problem. >> let's be clear. israel has no intention to stay in the gaza strip more than we need to. our mission is only to get rid of the terrorists who butchered our people. and to free gaza from this terrible hamas regime. we are thinking two, three, four steps ahead and in the framework of thinking what will happen after hamas is defeated and so forth, we're looking at different concepts. people write papers but as my prime minister said, that paper is not government policy. it's a conceptual paper of the person who wrote it.

it has no, it hasn't been accepted by the israeli government and won't be. it's the job of officials to think to come out with ideas. you want people to sometimes think outside the box, but this is definitely thinking outside the box. it's not going to be accepted by the israeli government. >> thank you very much. coming up, at least two dozen attacks on bases housing u.s. troops just two weeks despite the u.s. striking back. what will the u.s. military need to do to stop them? i will be asking the nfc coordinator, john kirby, but first, police have a suspect in custody in the violent threats targeting cornell university. what we know when we're back in 60 seconds. university at we know when we're back in 60 seconds is american infrastructure, a prime target for cyberattacks. but the same ai-powered security that protects all of google also defends these services for everyone who lives here. ♪

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antisemitic threats were plastered on campus and online. the incident is just one in a string of disturbing hate crimes that have happened across u.s. universities. the white house just unveiled new plans to combat both antisemitism and antimuslim sentiments at campuses across the country after an alarming uptick in both. joining us now, stephanie gosk. welcome. so what exactly is the biden administration planning to do? how are they going to be able to combat this? >> alex, you know, the biden administration has come out and said that they are, that they are determined to do something to if not eliminate, at least combat the increase in hate rhetoric that's showing up on campuses. both islamophobiaic rhetoric as well as antisemitic rhetoric. they say they're going to open up channels of communication

between the dhs. they're also going to make it easier for students to report any incidents that happen on campus. you know that's a message we've been hearing a lot from officials that the only way they're really going to be able to stop this is if they know it's happening and they're encouraging people to report anything that occurs. whether it is a crime in and of itself or it is just hate speech. >> i know you've been on the campus of columbia university here in new york for the better part of a day, but do you have any updates on what we're hearing in cornell? apparently, this person has just been questioned now, a person of interest in the hate attacks there? >> yeah, they're calling this person a suspect although we haven't heard anything about charges or an arrest. and you know, the president of cornell came out on sunday night overnight with a letter to students saying that there had been a series of in her words, horrific antisemitic threats of violence made online. she said she had contacted the fbi and that campus police were

going to be stationed outside of a building where jewish students live. we spoke to some of those jewish students who said they were so on edge that it was difficult to go to class and to do their work. so certainly this would be a welcome development for them. and in talking to students over the last few days and weeks, college campuses are really place where debates on issues of the day are supposed to occur but what students and faculty and staff say is that these debates are being drowned out by hate speech and threats and even violence. >> absolutely. these students, many living in fear. they don't think they can leave where they live and they need to stay inside and cover up. thank you so much. up next, with more than 200 hostages still being held by hamas, where do the negotiation talks stand? nfc coordinator for communications, john kirby, joins us after the break. communications, john kirby, injos us after the break i was stuck. unresolved depression symptoms were in my way.

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moments ago, the senate confirmed jack lew as the ambassador to israel. he is expected to begin his work

immediately. joining us now, ali vitali. welcome. what exactly was holding up lew's appointment? why did it take several months? >> it is the fact that it is especially now that actually jogged this nomination loose from the gridlock that had been holding it up in the first place. several republican senators including ted cruise had been holding up this nomination along with some others. specific to lew, it was concerns over the iran deal brokered during the obama administration. you mentioned his roots in that era of politics. so certainly, now, those allegations of the way that he dealt with iran during the obama years dogged him throughout this nominating fight. however, after the october 7th attack in israel by hamas, we saw the machinations begin on

capitol hill to confirm him. the senate did just that, confirming him with 53 votes. two republicans joining all democrats to confirm and now install the latest ambassador to israel. it comes as israel now has an ambassador to the united states, but we'll see what the aid package provided by the u.s. to the country is. we're watching the house start the process on their end moving forward toward the end of this week with just the $14 billion aid package to israel. the reason i say just the $14 billion aid package to israel is cause the biden aintration even as recently as today, was defending the idea that they needed to move both an israel and ukraine aid package simultaneously. of course, the political realities within the house republican congress are far easier on israel than ukraine. the way the johnson is trying to placate some aspects of his conference is by paying for this $14 billion in aid by off setting it with costs from the

irs package that was included in a previously passed bill last congress. that's something that i just asked the top democrat in the senate about. i said is this dead on arrival when it comes to the senate because it's just the israel part of the package? he said this isn't a serious proposal and hopes that johnson can go back to the drawing board. >> which means we'll have a lot more conversations with you about it. the man accused of killing 18 people in lewiston, maine was known to law enforcement. his family told them they were concerned about his mental health so that's prompting new questions about whether the attack could have been prevented. joining us now, ken dilanian. welcome. so let's talk about the warning signs. what did we know about them and why was card allowed access to guns and even to purchase new weapons in the interim? >> there were so many warning

signs here. it's hard to know where to begin. the family first flagged concerns in may and we know his military commanders became so concerned by his behavior in july that they called new york state police who took for him two weeks of inpatient mental health treatment. then an army spokesperson told us that the army at that time directed the service member should not have a weapon, handle ammunition, should not participate in live fire activity. we also know that this september, his main army colleagues because concerned again because he was exhibiting paranoid behavior. one was worried he could commit a mass shooting. a local sheriff sent out an alert and tried to find him but failed. we were also told that co-workers at a recycling center where he worked said he was

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has the conflict already escalated past the point of containment? overnight, israeli warplanes struck more targets in southern lebanonnd over the red sea, israeli fighter jets scrambled to intercept unspecified ariel threats outside of israeli territory and the system intercepted a ballistic missile believed to be fired by houthi rebels from yemen. welcome, sir. basic question. how close are we to this war becoming uncontainable?

>> that implies to no stopping it. i wouldn't go that far. i think it's going to become a broader war and i think the americans will be involved. let's be clear that we've had 19 months of russia war this ukraine. not one american serviceman or woman has been injured. no americans involved in fighting against the russians. that's already not the case here and the attacks against americans, civilians, military bases in the region, we are absolutely going to see this in a significant way over the coming weeks and months and the americans will respond. so this is a war that the united states will be directly involved in. >> so if you're looking at extremes and you say the war in ukraine and lack of u.s. involvement meaning boots on the ground versus that which we saw in afghanistan, where does it

fall? >> it doesn't have much impact on the american economy. i don't think it's likely that iran will be directly involved so we're not going to have oil prices shoot up to 150 and i'd be hard pressed to see a large number of american boots on the ground in territories beyond where they're already stationed. but in terms of americans facing attacks and the united states government responding in what can become a proxy war essentially with iran, but this time, a proxy war directly involving american fighters when you're talking about syria and iraq, shia militants. you're talking about in yemen. i certainly believe coming and a big question is just how bad this will get in lebanon in the northern front in terms of hezbollah and the fight against israel. i also think the fight is not going to stop in gaza for the israelis. i expet in the west bank

in occupied west bank that you're going to see much more significant casualties and fighting between the palestinians and the settlers, between the palestinians and the israeli defense forces. so on all of those fronts, the fact is the israelis used to have a policy of deterrents in the region that helped you contain fighting because it meant when the israelis were hit, they would respond more aggressively, but still tit for tat to basically reestablish stability and deterrents. that is gone. the decision that has been made by netanyahu and the entire war cabinet, so it is a collective israeli decision, is that hamas must be destroyed. that's a policy of regime change and decapitation of the leadership, the political and military leadership in gaza, a territory with 2.3 million palestinians. the ability to get that done will take months and months of deeply brutal fighting.

i don't think anything is going to prevent the israelis from doing it and i think that that will inexorably expand this war. >> how about the fact that we have gone uptick to 27 attacks, i believe, since the 16th of october on u.s. personnel be they at a base or a base where we just have those stationed. we've been trying to deter that. is that working? >> it's being deterred in the sense that you have a lot of american equipment in the region and that is a strong message to the iranian government y better not directly engage in attacks against americans, but as you know, the iranians hav been funding and training hamas. so it's not as if there's no complicity there. the iranians have also funded and trained hezbollah which has roughly 10 x the numbers of fighters and the military capability that hamas does. that's also true of the houthi in yemen who have been popping off missiles against the united

states and israel. iran has influence over all of these militants, but they don't control them. so, i mean, it's not clear. i mean, how do the americans prevent a whole bunch of radical paramilitaries that they better not attack the united states or else? thankfully -- look, we have seen a huge uptick in anti-semitism in the region and europe and the united states, we haven't yet seen terrorist attacks against american civilians, but as i'm sure you've seen from washington in intelligence briefings recently that -- clearly that threat environment has increased exponentially in the last three weeks and i'm afraid that we are not going to maintain what we've seen so far. >> sobering conversation, but we appreciate it nonetheless, ian brem, thank you. up next, cbs, rite aid and walgreens pharmacists are walking off the job. what they're asking for and the impact these walkouts will have on you. r and the impact these wkoaluts will have

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along with the calls to insurance companies that they have to take and just questions from patients, patients will walk up to them and ask about over-the-counter medications. they say they have so much to do and sometimes there's only one person behind that counter and they say that is just not enough. so they are asking for more staffing. they are looking at pay for the pharm techs, a pay increase for the pharm techs who are also a part of this walkout. it's a little difficult to track the numbers this have walkout since there is not an overarching union that is in charge of this. so it's organizers who are pharmacists or former pharmacists who are working to try to get all of this together. it has made an impact already. we've heard from some locations that have shut down or had to close early, they have had to close their drive-thrus because they don't have enough people to run it, which is the point they're trying to make. that you need them to work there. we have heard from cvs and rite aid and walgreens saying that they are looking atble adjustments to make here in this

situation, but the workers say they want something rm. they don't just want an overall we are looking into this which the statements we have from them the screen, they want policy changes that are in writing for minimum staffing at these locations. >> very quickly, it happens to be a lot around the fact they have to give out covid booster shots and flu shots, it's the vaccines that are complicating things. >> that's what we've heard so much. there is such a push for the vaccines which the pharmacists want to give out, but put the emphasis on that, they say they need more staffing to get behind and do that and if this doesn't make the difference, they say they will have another walkout. >> i had to wait for mine, i'm just saying, quite a bit, like 30 minutes. >> we have heard from customers, too, they're upset. >> thanks for the heads up on all of that. that's going to wrap it up for me today, katy will be back tomorrow, "deadline: white house" starts right now. ♪♪ hi there, everyone.

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