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>> donald trump is now counting on those three as portrayed by "snl" in his new york fraud trial. and today he whined, leave my children alone, like they were toddlers on a playground. and today donald trump jr. took the witness stand for the first time, answering questions about his role in the alleged scheme to falsely inflate the trump organization's assets. eric and ivanka are waiting in the wings. also tonight, arizona secretary of state adrian fontes joins me on set following his testimony today before a senate committee on the on going right wing threat to free and fair elections. and to election workers. but we begin tonight with new speaker of the house mike johnson's first official day at work. now that the people's house is back in session. we've already established that johnson is an ultra right wing kris man nationalist who will probably push a nationwide abortion ban. but for the time being, the priority is recrimination and

votes on dualing censure resolutions. one is against democrat rashida tlaib, the only palestinian american in congress and has family in the west bank and it's being pitched by marjorie taylor greene, of course. she accuses tlaib of, inciting an insurrection in a house office building during a protest in support of a cease fire in gaza. the other censure resolution is against a marge greene herself. the house is also expected to take up a resolution to expel republican george santos or whatever he is calling himself these days who has been dooimed on federal fraud charges. important stuff. oh, and at some point they also have to fund the government before it shuts down and deal with the biden administration's request for aid to israel and ukraine. republicans put that on a back

burner while they fought over a speaker. one of the biggest components jim jordan as speaker is calling it quit. ken buck of colorado says he will not return. he will not run for re-election. buck says he's disappointed with republican's inability to do things. and offered this mouthed excuse why he wouldn't vote for election denier jim jordan but did vote for election denier mike johnson. >> i'm also disappointed that the republican party continues to rely on this lie that the 2020 election was stolen. and mike went to the supreme court with a challenge to the election. i think going to the courts is one thing. trying to move the mob from the mall up to the house flor and you know interrupting the congressional proceeding whole different issue. >> it is a sign that in this party you cannot survive without

the big lie. the architect of the legal attempt to overthrow the 2020 election that buck just minimized, hits the ground running. speaker johnson's first big legislative move is a bill for stand alone aid to israel, keeping aid to ukraine separate since you know maga loves russia and paying for it with irs spending cuts. >> i think if you put this to the american people and they weigh the two needs, i think they're going to say, standing with israel and protecting the innocent over there is in our national interest and is more immediate need than irs agents. >> how very republican to look out for the billionaire tax cheats. i feel like there was a line in the bible which mike johnson says summarizes his world view about rich men being as likely to enter the kingdom of heaven as being able to fit through the eye of a needle. but you know, details. senate majority leader chuck schumer called johnson's proposal not serious and says israel and ukraine should not be

separated. and in a sign that the he.l.l. is frozen over, mitch mcconnell agrees with schumer. cutting the irs is more expensive. speaker johnson's plan it's estimated will add $27 billion by 2023 and johnson didn't seem too concerned about that. >> not surprised at all. only in washington when you cut spending do they call it a -- >> are you alarmed by this at all? >> so much for the supposed party of fiscal responsibility. meanwhile, the white house has threatened to veto mike johnson's israel bill. in a statement, they said denying humanitarian assistance to 2 million pal still yan civilians would be a grave mistake adding it inserts partisanship into support for israel, making our ally a pawn in our politics at a moment when we must stand together. joining me now is congressman eric swalwell of california and

mora and former aide to speaker john boehner and congressman kinzinger. congressman, where are these censure votes going, in your view? >> well, joy, look, it's pretty rich that republicans would seek to censure anyone on our side when jim jordan, who was one of their candidates for speaker, had tweeted out not too long ago just kenye, period, elon period, trump period and then like a day later kenya said we should kill every jew essentially and jim jordan kept that tweet up for about three months. so, let's think twice before we get in a back and forth censuring game about what their own members have to say. the american people for the last three weeks watched the absolute chaos that the republicans brought at the expense of getting things done on inflation, on health care, on keeping the government open, on

funding the needs of the middle east and ukraine so they could pick a new speaker. and, we get right back to congress. this is the first thing they want to do. they're not serious about governing. again, we're going to show we are serious about governing. if they want anyone in this building who will help them get things done, as we have in the past, we stand ready. >> and i know you have to vote, so i'm going to let you do that. do you want to go and vote and come back? >> i'm good. i'm good. i'm fired up. i'm good. >> you're fired up. in a follow-up question on that, republicans obviously don't care about optics but attempting to censure the lone palestinian american in the congress doesn't seem like something any democrats would get on board with, even though there are democrats who have been critical of representative tlaib's position, is there a chance democrats would vote for a censure resolution against one of their own members. >> i don't think many will. what i see this is republicans recognize that their nominee is going to be donald trump. and one of the biggest concerns

americans will have about donald trump is the guy kind of ran a coup on the capitol because he lost an election and it was violent and police officers were hurt and we very nearly were not able to carry out the certification. and so they must essentially erase that or at least create like a false equivalency so they'll go after our colleagues and say, oh, what a democratic colleague of mine did was essentially the same thing that donald trump did and so tie goes to the runner, make donald trump the nominee. we're not going to let them do that. we'll make sure that every single day the american people know they're more comfortable with violence than voting. and when it comes to policy, we have principles. they're absolutely bankrupt. again i think mainstream will always beat maga if that's the choice. >> at this point there's two different kind of republicans. your wing is super small. i don't know if you realize how

small it is. what does it say about the party their priorities are not funding the government. we are inside of 30 days of the government shutting down. making every single republican adhere to the big lie. it's all they seem to care about. ken buck has to go. he's a far right wing republican. he's not good enough. >> that's so jarring to see someone who is really, really conservative drop out because of a stance that he took against jim jordan who he didn't believe was fit to serve as speaker of the house. and now he can't stay in congress? i mean, it's telling of where we are in our party but also our politics and how we're -- i hope some of these members who endured some of that hate and vitriol and really just the maga mob, maybe they have a little sympathy now for their fellow colleagues, former colleagues adam kinzinger and liz cheney. it shouldn't be this way. it's a real problem and says

something that we have gone too far. >> what do you make of the fact that you still have tommy tubervillle on the senate side continuing to block promotions inside of our military at a time when we're watching a war going far away. the marine corps doesn't have a leader, the person should have been the commandant had a medical issue. he is saying republicans should hold off on to aid to israel until the u.s./mexico border is addressed. what does that mean? republicans don't have a bill for the border but now he added on top of ban abortion on all -- don't let anybody in the military have an abortion also do the border or he's not going to yield. what do you make of that? >> nothing more infuriating one, someone who doesn't know what being a senator is, should not be in congress, than decide to hold up the job of being a senator. i mean, it's beyond frustrating. again the republican party i belong to, we're for our military, for our veterans. we support business, we support a strong foreign policy. we support an economic, fiscal

conservative. that's where we're at as a party or where we're supposed to be at. what tubberville is doing is showing his lack of experience on full display and being an obstructionist just for the sake of being an obstructionist. >> yeah. >> having a nationwide abortion ban and having this say over what the military men and women who are fighting to defend and protect us -- >> which he's never done. >> he has not done. how can you stand there and block all these promotions and things that we need for a stronger military. >> congressman swalwell, let's go back to the issue of funding republicans want to separate and cleave off ukraine. this is how mitch mcconnell tried to frame the argument as to why ukraine funding should happen. take a listen. >> it requires a worldwide approach rather than trying to take parts of it out. it's all connected. the chinese and the russians said they're now friend forever.

iranian drones are being used in ukraine and against the israelis. let's talk about where the money is really going. significant portion of it is being spent in the united states and 38 different states replacing the weapons that we sent to ukraine with more modern weapons. so we're rebuilding our industrial base. >> i mean, i'm not sure that saying let's fund the military industrial complex is the flex mitch mcconnell thinks it. what do you make of that argument which apparently is what the white house strategy is, no, fund ukraine because it's good for the u.s. economy. >> fund ukraine because it's good fur our economy and leadership and security in the world. but republicans for the longest time, i gave them the benefit of the doubt that they would talk tough on china but now i see that they're soft on russia. and so if you're going to talk tough on china, you have to stand up against russia for what they're doing in ukraine and you have to be able to draw the straight line between iran who

funded so many of the drone attacks that happened in kyiv and funded the attacks that happened in southern israel to help hamas. so if you don't understand there is a through line here and our ally's security is at stake, our security is at stake and by the way what are republicans doing, pulling out the israel aid and saying we're going to fund israel but the way we'll do it is add $12 pl billion to the deficit and allow the richest people on america to skate on their maxes to do it. it's absurd. missing the opportunity to have a bipartisan vote to address our needs and the innocent needs in the area who need leadership and collaboration on this issue. >> i want to let our audience know that the house has now voted to table the censure resolution against congresswoman rashida tlaib. we'll waiting to see what will happen with the rest of the censure resolutions. 23 republicans i will note for

you, mora, did vote to table a resolution. at least 23 who didn't want to play the sort of censure game. i want to let you comment on that. >> the political aspect of this is pretty apparent here. we saw with marjorie taylor greene bringing it up, that doesn't give it a lot of credibility. >> fair. >> that's a big part of it. thooes i would think so. and so i'm not surprised that it got tabled. i'm curious to see what happens with the george santos measure. because it really should be -- the congressional committee on ethics is an independent, bipartisan organization that looks into these things. they seem to have a lot on him. and really want to have the chance to do it. so, kind of let them do it and i think that's it. >> one last question before i get one last in for the congressman. what is this things about putin that so -- i understand that for on the israel side, you have a lot of christian nationalists like mr. johnson, speaker johnson, who they've got their own sort of world view reasons for saying, yes, we're willing

to send money there. there's that part of it. what is this republican affinity to putin? what's funny to me, one i don't know to answer your question. i don't know aside from the fact that former president trump was president he admired him. >> that's all it takes. >> we have all seen the impact he has and his words have. his word have an impact on voters. that's part of it. but, i would say another part too if there are going to be pro-israel, which they r but then how you cannot be pro-ukraine. russia is still player in both situations. >> can you answer this question, congressman? i don't know how much conversation you have with people on the other side of the aisle, but this -- i don't know if it's adore ration. i know for trump it's adoration. the republican party will not do anything they don't think putin won't like, why? >> son of two republicans who was raised in the ronald reagan era, believed we had to be strong in the cold war to defeat

russia, it's very simple. the simplest explanation is the correct onecome is putin likes trump. trump likes putin. russia helped trump in the 2016 election. okay. we have to help russia. that's as simple as it is. now as i said with the hamas attack on southern israel, and iran's role and iran helping russia as well, it's not so clear, to me, as why they wouldn't want to help ukraine defeat russia when iran is a common enemy in all this. i'm going to go vote on the next one, joy. thank you again for working around this crazy schedule. >> thank you for working around our schedule. we really appreciate you kochkman. congressman eric swalwell, thank you. more ra, thank you. our new friend of the show. we appreciate you. coming up next on "the reidout," the judge in trump's civil fraud trial must have missed donald's 2:00 a.m. warning to stay away from his children because he went ahead and dragged poor don jr. into court to testify today. "the reidout" continues after

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it is now november, which means that we are just about a year away from the next presidential election. contest that may very well determine whether or not the u.s. remains a functioning democracy. one state that will be key in deciding the outcome is arizona, which you'll remember was ground zero for election denial and misinformation in 2020. it was in arizona's maricopa

county we saw crowds of protesters on election night, some armed chanting let us in outside a processing center where votes were being counted. it was also home to several election conspiracies promoted by donald trump that were centered around things like sharpies and bamboo ballots. claims that prompted the republican-backed group cyber ninjas to do a full-scale audit. only to discover that joe biden won the state by more votes than were determined. the people who worked tirelessly in 2020 to ensure the election was fair, despite all of that tom fullerry are fearing for their own safety and leaving their posts after spending the past three years being inundated with an unprecedented level of harassment and death threats, simply for doing their jobs. today, local and state officials from swing states testified before the senate rules committee on this very issue, including arizona secretary of state, adrien fontes. >> since 2020, 12 out of 15 of

arizona's counties lost senior election officials. as a former county recorder myself, i can attest that the pre-2020 world for election administrators is gone. we don't feel safe in our work because of the harassment and threats that are based in lies. just ask a former county recorder about her dogs. poisoned as a means of intimidation. her story is one of many officials from both political parties who left the profession for the sake of their own physical, mental and emotional health and that of their families. >> joining me now is arizona secretary of state adrian fontes. thank you for being here. >> thank you, joy. >> 98% of arizona voters will see elections run by somebody new this year. >> this is a symptom of the big lie. the conspiracy theorists have given some folks, you know, they feel like they can do stuff that

they shouldn't be doing. they feel like they've been aggrieved so much -- again, that he has are all based on lies that they feel they need to act out against the very officials who would ensure the freedoms they proport to be defending the real free, fair and accountable elections that they say they want. but, the conspiracy theorists have muddled things up so badly that just regular civil servants are being threatened day in and day out across the united states of america. issue one put out this report of 11 western states. it talks about the losses across the board. and it's a pretty harrowing situation that we're in. >> you read from these remarks. but some of the stuff that you put in your testimony, the idea that social media has the capacity to create deep fakes that somebody -- a foreign government you wrote could write an ai deep fake due to power outage we relocated their

election to another place. imagine the confusion as people circle parking lots in random parts of town attempting to vote and try to fix it, they might be like, i don't know if that's the real adrian fontes or this one. that is terrifying. >> it is. we have seen on tiktok and other parts of social media, arnold schwarzenegger pretending to be whit gnu houston. >> close enough to the notion that well, maybe joy is selling weight loss gummies. maybe there's this other little thing. for an election official, secretary of state, hey, we have issues on this side of town. we're closing all of our polling sites. you need to vote over here. if somebody deep faked that, that becomes a believable thing. so, we're not just debunking lies and debunking nonsense, we need to start pre-bupging and preparing for the potential assault because again, as i indicated in my written testimony, what if i then go on

tv and say, no, that's not real. all of a sudden it's what looks like me contradicting what looks like me and it becomes even a bigger mess. we're asking federal officials to jump in and help now. we're behind the eight ball. we don't know what generative ai is going to give us in three or six months or a year from now which is when the election is coming. >> do you feel like the members of the committee -- i hate to be -- do you think that they understand the technology with enough depth to really have a response to it? >> i don't think you have to understand the technology to understand the danger that it poses. to understand the fact that, look -- because everybody that was there on january 6th, they saw what could happen. >> sure. >> right? and that's terrifying enough. but to think that those sorts of messages can be put out to the general public on social media, across the united states of america, they understand the seriousness of it. here is the thing. how will they react? and the only thing that folks

like me can do is come here to washington, d.c., testify in front of these folks and bring as much attention as possible to the notion that republicans and democrats who run elections across the country alike, we're all asking for more money, for information technology security. we're all asking for more support from sisa and the department of homeland security to make sure that we have the fundamentals taken care of so that we don't fall victim o the folks that want to do us harm. >> then what do we do about the guns? you write in your written testimony about having people who do what you do and your former job, you know, even more local government in terms of elections, having to have go-bags. having to be prepared to run on site because people are threatening folks who do elections. threatening to kill them because they don't like the outcome of an election. >> well, you know, part of the question that we had answered today was, what's the department of justice doing? they've had several thousand complaints. they've prosecuted about 15 cases, some of them based in

arizona. and i think the department of justice is doing well but i think they could do more. i think they can engage more local and state law enforcement officials to go do the initial knocks and let people know, hey, knock on the door. did you threaten somebody? can we start this investigation. really even if it doesn't result in criminal charges, the notion that law enforcement is paying attention to these things. and not violating anything's first amendment rights. let's be really clear, but we're paying attention to these things. you can't go unchecked. the question really is generally speaking is there accountability in our systems for these, you know, these tom foolery as you mentioned, shenanigans attempting to slowly but surely erode the confidence we have in one another, the civic faith that maintains our democracy. and we've got to have that accountability to stave that off and make it a thing of the past. >> it's a scary world out there when the nicest people in the world, other than librarians are election workers. they know your name. hey, you here to vote again. >> i've also got the pleasure of

running arizona state libraries. i get to deal with all the wonderful people. i get both. >> i'll come out to arizona and vote. thank you very much and stay safe. up next, donny jr. takes the stand. more on that next ch 123450.

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well, it lacks like donald trump was facing another bout of insomnia last night, going on the attack last night, targeting the new york attorney general and judge in his civil fraud case. in a post at 2:30 a.m., trump demanded of judge arthur engoren, leave my children alone. well, about those children. they're adults in their 40s or late 30s. given very senior roles in the trump administration by you, donald. you gave ivanka a senior-level job at the white house. in fact, when you began your presidency, you said you were handing over the keys to the family business to don jr. and eric. remember? >> and what i'm going to be doing is my two sons, who are right here, don and eric, are going to be running the company. they are going to be running it in a very professional manner. these papers are just some of

the many documents that i've signed turning over complete and total control to my sons. >> now, we can gloz other the fact that those many documents you so nicely displayed were reportedly blank. and that your staffers blocked journalists from seeing any of those folders. but there it is, so-called children were in charge. don jr. and eric hold the title of executive vice president in the trump organization, which is why new york toesh general letitia james named them as defendants in your civil fraud case and why don jr. was asked to take the stand today. but i can understand why you would mistake them for children. i can get it. just listen to donny. >> donald trump has the nuclear codes. for the record, i say if donald trump actually still has the nuclear codes, it would probably be good. >> but you kneaded the hrt, to exercise this warrant in mar-a-lago. give me a break. they're acting like the fascists

we have been seeing them be. i don't think joe is smart enough to be like, hey, let's send them off the trail. don't hack the mcdonald's in d.c. the high interest rates combatting the inflation has made homeownership almost impossor many americans. >> if lizzo is depressed, so so dona trump jr., folks. >> he seems total stable. we'll see don jr. back on the stand tomorrow followed by eric. then next week, the former president is expected to take the stand along with ivanka. she is not a defendant in the case. joining me now is nbc's adam reese, in the courtroom today and barbara rez, former executive vice president of the trump organization. i laugh but it's very serious case adam reese. what happened in court today? how did don do? >> there's a lot on the line for don jr., for his father, for his family and for his inheritance. he came into the courtroom today.

he was very confident. he was cracking jokes. he was speaking so quickly there was a point where judge said to him to slow down. he said, judge, i've moved to florida but i've kept up the new york pace. the prosecutor walked him through the step of his education, as you know, he went to penn. he went to what are then business school. he said he took accounting 101. he even knows what gap is, generally accepted accounting principles. but he said he never got into the nitty-gritty. always relied on attorneys, accountants. he said he always relied on his cpas. he did say that even though his signature was on the statements of financial condition, this is a key part of this trial, he said he really didn't get involved in the compilation. now, late in the afternoon, joy, there was a key moment, a potential bomb shell when the prosecutors showed a document which deals with the revocable trust. that is, as you mentioned earlier, donald trump handed the business over to his two boys, eric and don jr., when he became

president. but, according to this document, he took back the business on january 15th, 2021. that means when he was telling the public that he had won the presidency, he knew deep inside you can infer that he knew that he lost because he was taking the business back from his children. now, don jr. will be back on the stand tomorrow followed by eric on monday. we will hear from the president himself back on the stand as you know. he was forced to take the stand last week. and ivanka reluctantly will take the stand next wednesday. >> wow. fascinating stuff. barbara, let's talk about don jr.'s involvement in the business. what -- in your understanding, what is his level of involvement? >> you know, i can speculate. i wasn't there when donny was around. but donald put him and eric and weisselberg in charge of this company.

it's hard for me to believe that's necessarily true. i mean, they had their group of lawyers and accountants and all that stuff. and they were doing basically what they usually do. but i do think that weisselberg knew what was going on. i can't imagine that don jr. would not -- not to say that he made decisions. i don't imagine that he said value this property this and value -- i think donald did that. i think trump was involved all the way through. >> and just to remind everyone of what those valuations look like. i mean, we're talking about taking the seven springs property that was appraised at $30 million and saying it was worth $261 million. up to 291. 40 wall street appraised value 540. trump says, no, 735. mar-a-lago, 18 to 27 million. trump's value, 426 to 612 million. trump national golf club, 16.5

takes it to 73.4. 16 million is trump national golf club in l.a., nope, 56.6. trump park avenue appraised $750,000 per unit but trump said, yeah. bump that up by 700%. adam, did it come up in court today who decided on those valuations and whether it was don jr., though he signed it, or whether it was his father? >> well, of course, don jr. passed it off. he said he relied on allen weisselberg, jeffrey mcconnie, all of the accountants in the office, all of the attorneys. but i want to mention, joy, just before he took the stand, the sole expert witness for the prosecution took the stand. and he said, because of these inflated valuations, the banks lost some $168 million. if the valuations were more accurate, they would have had,

the trump organization, would have had to pay more for the loans. but because they were inflated, they were able to get loans at a lower price, at a lower interest rate. so, essentially they ripped off the banks $168 million. >> wow. barbara, you know, in your dealings with the family, who does donald have more to fear from in terms of their testimony, don jr. who came up today and smiled and was confident and said he didn't have anything to do with anything. he just signed it. eric trump, who reportedly bragged about having access to $100 million in russian money to a golf magazine, spilling the beans on that. or ivanka? >> interestingly i think ivanka only because she sort of bailed out. she's trying to get out of this whole thing. she's trying not to be a part of it. so she might have -- she might be the most damaging. the other two, especially jr., are so terrified of their

father. i don't know how much they can come forward with unless maybe there was a threat of going to jail, even then it's hard to think -- i hate to be so glib about it, but they were terrified of him. and you know, i think that they would be very, very reluctant to make trouble for their own father, except that they're both such clowns that maybe, you know, if the prosecutors really grills them and trips them up, maybe they'll let something go. >> we will be watching. fascinating case. adam reese and barbara rez, thank you both very much. egypt opens its border to evacuate a limited number of civilians from gaza as israeli ground and air forces intensify their assault. we'll be right back. sault. we'll be right back. he hits his mark —center stage—and is crushed by a baby grand piano. you're replacing me? customize and save with liberty bibberty.

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some people trapped in the gaza strip have begun to evacuate, including dozens of injured civilians and hundreds of foreign passport holders, including americans and dual nationals. the crossing was opened after egypt, hamas and israel agreed that up to 500 people can cross daily. this comes as international fall-out continues over a massive air strike on jabalya. the largest refugee camp in gaza. israel has claimed responsibility for the attack, saying it killed a senior hamas commander. dozens of other people were killed and hundreds wounded in a strike according to a local hospital. joining me now is an independent journalist covering the middle east and david rothkopf, host of "the deep state radio podcast." thank you both for being here. david, i want to go to you first on just the global reaction and anger over the bombing of the refugee camp. does that change the calculus in your view for the israeli

government or not? >> well, they repeatedly said it's not going to change their view. they also said they're going to have to steel themselves against this kind of criticism. but i have to think that gradually over the course of the next days and weeks, we're going to see more and more criticism as more and more civilians die. and so at some point it could push this relationship to a different kind of a phase. and in particular, i think it's likely to put pressure on the biden administration, which right now is very closely associated with the netanyahu government, but is trying very hard to put humanitarian issues front and center. if there's a rift there, that could be a game changer in terms of the future course of this crisis. >> you know, i have noticed that that you started out with the president being very four square, standing behind the netanyahu government and israel,

but lately they have been trying to sort of communicate in a different way, john kirby did this thing that they posted on instagram where he's talking about humanitarian aid, biden now is calling for a pause in order to get humanitarian aid in and now of course you have this rafah crossing where a few hundred people are going to be allowed to leave. what do you think for the community, for arab americans, for muslim americans, for palestinian americans, does any of that change in language change the context for the community? >> i'm not surprised you're seeing them have a little change in the verbage and some not just from the muslim or arab community but from a global response, from the united nations, from ngos, from humanitarian organizations, from governments around the world, and protests around the world. so not only protests here but

global pushback, saying what are you doing here? you're killing thousands and thousands of innocent civilians. and i think the fact that while we celebrate and we have a bit of good news that some folks have been allowed to cross over, it is still nothing compared to the amount of death and destruction we are seeing. and it's really interesting what popped into my mind is that it's such a crazy dynamic that our own government and president biden went and gave netanyahu a hug, sterling the stage next to, him and pretty much gave him carte blanche, a blank check to do what he wants, before securing the safe passage of american citizens. there are hundreds of american citizen stuck in gaza, and there was nothing done to get them out of there before netanyahu did this, what is essentially carpet bombing of the region. and also secondly, what happens to folks that are not foreign nationals, to the palestinians that are stuck there as bombs rain down on them? for a lot of people there worried, it's a twofold thing,

worried about the dress and death and destruction, but also don't want to see palestinians pushed into the sinai, pushed out of gaza, displaced once, again losing their land, so it's that entire, we're dealing with the entire situation, where if we go specifically to the arab and muslim community, they are utterly disgusted from everything i've been seeing, from all the polling, they're demanding a cease fire but they're not the only ones, especially with the youth in this country. i wrote a piece on his last. week the such a demand for an immediate cease fire fire, and the president and our government are not paying enough attention to the pulse of the nation and what they want, and they want an actual diplomatic resolution. >> david, the challenge for the biden ministration is, joe biden initially said some things that have really angered people in the u.s., and the community. repeating that he had seen pictures of severed, of people with heads severed, which is a story that the idf and israeli

government wound up not being able to back up, but saying he had seen the pictures and then having to have that retracted, saying he didn't believe the palestinian death toll. there's a piece in the washington post saying that biden's dismissal of the reported palestinian death toll, the president could have noted that based on previous israel hamas wars, about one third of deaths were likely to be combatants, but he swept away all the numbers is not credible. that's his opinion. but as remarkably uninformed by history and precedent. some of the presidents communication has been an issue. talk a bit about the pressures on biden and just how he communicates about this. >> let me start with saying i think that, i mean i know that prior to biden going to israel, secretary of state blinken spent seven or eight hours in negotiation with the israelis in order to get concession on humanitarian issues. and the united states administration behind the scenes has been placing heavy emphasis on this. that doesn't offset the fact

that some of the things that biden has said have been insensitive, and it doesn't offset the fact that people within the arab american communities and muslim american community more broadly are offended by what they are seeing from the israelis, and they are offended by any american support for that. that said, the single greatest pressure on the israelis to do the right thing, to pull back, to go slowly, to honor international law, is coming from the united states. and, i would add to other things very quickly. one, today the president of the united states of the vice president announced a new anti islamophobia initiative, the first we've ever seen. and to, some people shrug this off, but i think it's important to point out, the last president or united states, who wants to be the next president of united states, was an islamophobia. he wanted to ban muslims from entering the united states. and he was a guy who really did

give carte blanche to benjamin netanyahu. biden may be handling this imperfectly, but he is much much better than the alternative. >> i wish we had more time, but we're up against a break. thank you both very much. excellent points made by both. we'll be right back. l be right back.

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