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taken by other universities as well. you mentioned there is this federal agency that is actually focused on improving the safety on college campuses and nbc news has learned that they are absolutely swamp independent requests, for on the ground support as well as consulting, sometimes resulting in a weeks long delay to get help. speaking to the degree of concern, we have seen across college campuses throughout the u.s. ana? >> emilie ikeda, thank you for staying on top of it for us. that will do it for us this week. thanks so much for joining us. see you back here monday, same time, same place. hope you have a wonderful weekend. reporting from new york, i'm ana cabrera. yasmin vossoughian picks up our coverage right now. good morning, everybody. it is 11:00 a.m. in the east. 8:00 a.m. pacific. right now, secretary of state tony blinken is in the middle east, pushing for a pause in the fighting. israel saying it now has gaza city surrounded, what he says is the only solution for peace.
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meanwhile, unicef saying gaza has, quote, become a graveyard for thousands of children. we're going to talk to the head of a children's aid group there about what his team is seeing on the ground. over to capitol hill, a showdown is now set over aid for israel. what is expected to happen to the house republicans' $14 billion deal once it hits the senate. and the fall, my gosh, of the crypto king. what is next for sam bankman-fried now that's found guilty of stealing billions from investors? and former president trump's son eric back on the stand today in the civil fraud trial against members of the trump family and their business in new york city. hi, everybody. good to see you. we begin this hour with the very latest on the israel-hamas war. and the threat of this widening conflict. just this morning, the leader of hezbolla spoke for the first
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time since this war began. he addressed the lives lost in gaza, but added the october 7th attack on israel was 100% palestinian. just this morning, the president was asked for his message to americans trying to get out of gaza. here is what he said. >> all this as the u.s. is pushing for a pause in the fighting to buy time to get the hostages out and humanitarian aid in. u.s. secretary of state tony blinken meeting with israeli officials in tel aviv just a couple of hours ago. here is what he said about what the u.s. sees as the best path forward out of this conflict. >> states continue to believe that the best viable path, indeed the only path is through a two-state solution. that's the only guarantor of a secure jewish and democratic israel.
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the only guarantor of palestinians realizing their legitimate right to live in a state of their own, enjoying equal measures of security, freedom, opportunity, and dignity. the only way to end a cycle of violence once and for all. >> i want to bring in nbc news foreign correspondent josh lederman and ali arouzi as well. josh, i know you're in tel aviv now. talk us through first and foremost what we heard from the secretary of state. he had to ride this line, he had this bear hug approach they continued to have diplomatically with israel along with saying that many palestinian civilians are continuing to die, and be killed in gaza. and it is this war. >> that's right, yasmin. the secretary of state did not go as far as to openly criticize israel for its conduct in the war. but he was very clear to emphasize that the u.s. wants to see israel conduct itself appropriately and do everything possible to prevent civilian
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deaths. he really arrived here in israel, hoping he would be able to convince israel as the u.s. has been saying publicly they want to see to allow these pauses in the fighting to try to address the humanitarian crisis there. he didn't get that from the israelis. we heard from prime minister netanyahu after his meeting with blinken saying that there will be no temporary cease-fire until the hostages are released. that is the opposite order to what the u.s. has been calling for. they want to see these temporary cessation of hostilities to get the hostages out. and saying there will be no fuel entering the gaza strip, another key element of humanitarian crisis that secretary blinken has been trying to address here. we have heard from secretary blinken talking about a key goal of this trip is to try to prevent this crisis from spiraling to bring in more of israel's enemies on the heels of the speech of the hezbollah leader. that's a key element for blinken as he heads later on to jordan for the second stop on this
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trip. >> just to be clear, josh, to the prime minister does not necessarily seem to be hearing and/or heeding the calls or asks from the united states right now when it comes to humanitarian aid. >> reporter: -- >> i lost sound with josh. ali to you, we're talking about hassan nasrallah, we heard from the leader of hezbollah over the last hour. this is the last time we heard from him since this began on october 7th. he made a distinction comments, talking about how this was purely from the palestinians this was all planning coming from hamas. he also went on to say that from his standpoint it was, in fact, and continues to be justified. he did then point the finger at th united states more so, even than israel.
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>> reporter: that's right. it was a pretty typical hassan nasrallah speech. it was long, lasted almost 90 minutes. much of it sounded like a lecture. and it was laced with a lot of threats. look, he started saying as you mentioned, they didn't know about the october 7th attacks. he distanced himself from any knowledge of those attacks. and he also distanced iran from any knowledge of those attacks, saying that both of them were caught by surprise. you can take that with a pinch of salt. he then went on to praise all of the militias in the region in iraq and yemen and syria for taking up the fight, especially against the u.s. and he said that these militias were targeted by the u.s. just to protect israel. and he kept going on in that same sort of vain, and it was not until the end of the speech that it started to become slightly more threatening. but i have to tell you, yasmin, people were expecting for him to deliver some sort of ultimatum,
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some sort of declaration of war, and that didn't happen. it was fairly measured by hassan nasrallah speech. he did say that hezbollah militias engaged in an unprecedented cross border fight with israel, and that that could escalate. he said israel would make a massive mistake if they attacked lebanon, some sort of preemptive strike, it could be the end of israel if they did that. but this is nothing new that we have heard from hassan nasrallah. and he said that whoever wants to stop a regional war must quickly stop aggression in gaza. we were expecting him to give a timeline. you know, if they didn't stop bombing gaza in the next 24 hours, then hezbollah would enter israeli soil. none of those threats were made. he did make a lot of threats to the americans. he said those americans that were defeated in lebanon in the
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early 1980s, the people that defeated them are still there, still alive, and still fighting. and i think that was a reference to the 1982 barracks bombings that killed some 240 u.s. military personnel. so these are all warnings to israel and to the united states. but he did stop short of laying out any concrete steps of what hezbollah would do next if this carried on, which is what a lot of people in this region were expecting. a lot of people in lebanon were expecting. i've spoken to contacts in lebanon. they said a lot of people left beirut before the speech because they were really worried that this would be some sort of big declaration that they are going all out into war with them. but that didn't happen. and i think that really does chime a lot with iran's policy. they have created these proxies to create a buffer between them and the united states. and israel. and for iran and hezbollah in
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turn to get fully involved in this war would break with a decades long strategy of pushing red lines with israel, with the united states, but not inviting an all-out retribution of themselves and that seems to still be happening. look, they're issuing a lot of threats, but not saying they're going to get involved in this war. now, again, that does not -- that does not say they're going to get involved as this progresses, as the situation in gaza becomes even more detrimental to the people there, they may do, but for now, they're holding back. >> we know obviously that iran is relying on their proxies right now to carry out what they don't want to necessarily do at this moment in crossing those red lines. ali arouzi, thank you. josh lederman, thank you. want to bring in aaron david miller, served as a negotiator and senior adviser for arab israeli negotiations at the state department, helped formulate u.s. policy on the middle east and arab israeli peace, now a senior fellow in the american state craft
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program. thank you for joining us on this. i appreciate it. couple of things i want to talk through, i want to talk about what we heard from secretary of state tony blinken on the ground there in a second visit to israel since this war began. really walking this fine line of saying we're going to continue this bear hug diplomatic approach, we support israel no matter what, but acknowledging seeing palestinian children die every day, he sees his own children in those children as well. do you think the united states is where it needs to be diplomatically right now in its stance within this war? >> i think given the very emotional support of this president, who considers himself part of the israeli story for decades, that we're more or less in a place where we are. joe biden is, i think, caught between that support for israel, but changing frame of what is occurring in gaza, both in
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terms of the catastrophic humanitarian situation and the exponential increase in palestinian deaths as a consequence of israeli air strikes in an effort to eviscerate hamas as a military force. i think the real question to me is whether or not in terms of secretary of state's talking points there is a dot dot dot or else. an frankly, given the atrocities of october 7, the domestic politics on the democratic side pushing the president to be tougher, on the republican side waiting to paint the administration as somehow neutral or hostile to israel, basically the administration is going to try to walk that line. i think that the israelis understand that the international legitimacy is eroding. what they're concerned about is
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waning support on the part of the biden administration. the question is whether or not any of this is going to result at a minimum in a humanitarian pause as john kirby said to get humanitarian aid in and to get hostages out. and there is going to be an issue here. i think netanyahu said to blinken this morning that a cease-fire is possible if the hostages are released. not just the foreign nationals. and hamas is making a distinction here obviously. so, still a lot of uncertainty, but the american frame i think is toughening a bit. >> i want to read for you kind of picking up on what you just talked about,omhing from david roth kauffman in theaily beast talking about this dot dot dot moment or else. heed our warnings, play by the rules of international war, international law, and/or there
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will be reciprocity. and he writes this, the u.s. has yet to publicly embre the idea of cease-fire, but biden must let the israeli leadership know that if they continue to wage this war as they have, we will do so soon, h goes on, punishing gazans further will have the effect of fue further extremism and giving birt t new threats. how do we know? this is the lesson of our experience through decades of combatting terrorists in the region. e u.s. should go even further, we should indicate we will actively support major two-stat pce initiative as the only acceptable outcome of this fighting. one way or another, we must also indicate we expect to see him and the opponents of real progress on peace go or israel can expect to see a real reduction in u.s. support for israel. and referring to him as prime minister benjamin netanyahu. what do you make of that analysis from david? >> david is a smart guy. i think the administration is already reinjecting the notion
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of a political solution in the wake of this. but i have to say, and i thought a lot about this, trying to answer the question, in view of what happened on october 7th, the real question is, the administration, i think, if it wants the israelis to somehow minimize literally with concrete actions palestinian deaths and casualties, they need to present a viable alternative with respect to concrete suggestions in order to accomplish that. i don't understand how and i press military experts on this and just about everybody i know, how do you come up with an alternative military strategy to strike hamas in a densely populated urban environment, where they are clearly embedding their own assets in civilian areas, densely populated, 21,000 humans per square mile, what do
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you do in order to -- >> why not -- i don't mean to step in here, but why not, and i'm wondering what you heard from them, why not, as david has suggested in this piece, sort of more strikes basically essentially, right? focused strikes, clandestine strikes, the ways in which the military has engaged before. >> that may be essentially where the israelis come out with respect to their ground campaign. i just -- well, first of all, i don't think the administration is going to say or else. should they say or else? yeah. they should say or else if they can come up with a concrete strategy now as israelis are operating in gaza city to alter a different approach to achieve their objective. i think it is a cruel dilemma, but on hostages, and the issue of preserving and protecting
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palestinian civilians and i don't think there has been an alternative. threatening the israelis without a concrete realistic alternative, i think it is frankly going to be counterproductive and in essence will make the united states look weak. the last thing the president needs is to basically dot dot dot say or else and the israelis don't comply and then what is the president's alternative? imposing sanctions, cutting u.s. military assistance? vowing to support a u.n. council resolution? i'm not sure that that's something the president is willing to consider. >> aaron david miller, as always, a pleasure to talk to you about this. we appreciate you. want to bring in on the phone with us from beirut matt bradley. matt, thank you for jumping on
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the phone for us. we appreciate it. i know you're at the speech given by hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah earlier today. we heard from ali arouzi who spoke us through the details of what we heard from the leader of hezbollah. tell us more what you heard and the people on the ground as well. >> reporter: i was at the speech and i wasn't at the speech. the fact is that hassan nasrallah used the means he prefers, the safest means for him to speak to his adoring audience. he appealed to them by video. it wasn't the man himself, he was speaking by video, but there was a huge screen and lots of chanting and celebrations. so we saw the same thing that people throughout the region saw in their homes, just at a massive venue. and it was pretty frothy. people there were very excited to see hassan nasrallah, he hasn't spoken for four weeks since this whole thing kicked off back on october 7th. but he made that clear.
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we have been part of this war since the day after october 7th. and you were talking just a moment ago to ali arouzi, and, yes, this was kind of a bit borrowing from some of his greatest hits. there was a lot of stuff that wasn't so new in his hour and a half long diatribe before all of these people. but there was a lot of stuff that was. he made pains to distinguish this current moment from what we have seen in the past, and also to associate it with some really important elements of palestinian history, like 1948, when the palestinians were removed from their homes or fled and that's very much debated right now still today. this was something that he said is different than the struggles of the lebanese people that hezbollah endured in the patch. the speech was to applaud and venerate all the quote, unquote martyrs that have died so far fighting the israelis and there have been more than 50 hezbollah fighters who died in the past four weeks.
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he said, people say we haven't been part of this war. will you join the war? he said this repeatedly, we have been part of this fight from the beginning. but he chose a middle ground here, kind of saying we are ready for anything, we are prepared to throw ourselves fully into this fight, but at the same time it was not a declaration of war that certainly quite a few of the people in this audience were hoping for. and were really prepared for. there was a lot of people, a lot of young people we were speaking to who said they want to fight, they want to throw themselves into the fight. but if you look further afield, outside of this place where i was, into the rest of lebanon where i'm driving through right now, you know, there are power outages, there is an economic crisis. there is a lot of people who feel as though they really carried a lot of the burden for the palestinian fight, even though there is an enormous amount of solidarity. hassan nasrallah, a leader of a militant group, he's also a politician. he has to answer to the entire nation of lebanon and benefactors in iran as well. he chose this middle path.
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it looks as though he could be prepared to expand the fight or withdraw from the border, to sort of shrink his presence there as needed. he lt it really open, so we don't know what is going to be happening next this is what we were expecting. we were expecting he would do a -- i'll take it as i see kind of approach, that was the smarter move. he dsn't want to be tied down to saying we're going to go full on into a war and then face an israeli preliminary attack. he also doesn't want to disappoint his followers, and anger a lf the region who are so pro palestine at this moment. this would be something that would weaken him politically. he does answer to a constituency, not just his supporters among the shia muslim of southern lebanon, but the entire -- all of lebanon and the entire region. >> matt bradley, thank you for jumping on for us. a lot to digest there. coming up next, we're turning our eyes back home here. what the latest jobs report is
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telling us about the economy. plus, the jury in the sam bankman-fried fraud trial wasted no time coming to a verdict. the crypto king's fall from grace when we're back in just 60 seconds. from grace when we're back in just 60 seconds. 21 past the hour.
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this morning, the closely watched monthly jobs rept was just released. 150,000 new jobs were added in the month of october, 20,000 less than expected. the unemployment rate rose slightly to 3.9%, which is still near the lowest ita decade. i want to bring in stephanie ruhle to talk about this. predictions were 170,000. we're at 150 now. unemployment ticking up just a hair. >> which is what jerome powell and the fed have actually been aiming for. i know this is counterintuitive, but, member, inflation is one of the biggest problems that
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we all know it, life is expensive. what the fed has been doing, over the last year, they have been raising rates, when that happens, the goal is to try to slow the economy a little. they don't want the economy to tip into recession. they don't want it to fall off a cliff. what you're seeing in the labor market this slight slowdown, while it is not great for anyone who is necessarily losing their job, we're still under 4%. wages are still growing. it is an overall net positive for the economy. >> does that mean the fed chair could stop increasing interest rates? >> just this week, we saw a pause and the goal is for him to continue that pause for the foreseeable future, because nobody wants to see rates go up again. >> can we talk about sam bankman-fried? >> we sure can. >> within a year, what an aboutface and how quickly this came to a head, the guy can face up to 110 years in prison, essentially life. >> he was truly on top of planet earth a year ago, a year and a
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half ago. remember the last super bowl? it was the ftx super bowl with tom brady and giselle flanking him, right? it was crazy. and not just famous people. he had the biggest investors on wall street backing him. then he gets charged, last night he was found guilty, all the charges, and how did the government do it? they turned his four top lieutenants in his company, one of them his ex-girlfriend, he then chose to take the stand and, bang, they used his own words, showed up with receipts, you said it, he could face up to 110 years in prison. the government is sending a huge message to the people in the crypto community. this wasn't necessarily about crypto markets. it was about old school fraud and the government said we're not standing for it. >> he was talking to the press the whole time, which was used against him in the trial, 101, don't talk to the press. >> after he was charged. i had several phone calls, he's playing video games, chatting away. he thought he was above it. he's not. he's behind it. >> watch her in 12 hours or so.
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>> yes. >> thanks for getting up with us. up next, white house speaker mike johnson could soon get pushback from republicans in the senate over his aid package to israel. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports." we'll be right back. ching "jose diaz-balart reports. we'll rbeight back. this is american infrastructure, a prime target for cyberattacks. but the same ai-powered security that protects all of google also defends these services for everyone who lives here. ♪ right now get a free footlong at subway. like the new deli heroes. buy one footlong in the app, get one free. it's a pretty big deal. kinda like me. order in the subway app today. mlb chooses t-mobile for business for 5g solutions... ...to not only enhance the fan experience, but to advance how the game is played. now's the time to see what america's largest 5g network can do for your business. when the murrays discovered gain scent beads,
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live pictures from capitol hill there. any moment now hakeem jeffries set to speak after republican-led house passed a new $14 billion aid package from israel with major cuts to the irs. the white house, the senate democrats saying the measure has zero chance, zero of becoming law. joining me now, garrett haake on capitol hill for us, brendan buck as well, former top aide to former speakers boehner and ryan. doa, right? here we go. out of the gate here, speaker johnson getting this thing across the finish line in the house but the senate saying it is not going to happen. so what happens to israel aid, ukraine aid and got to keep the government open in 14 days time? >> reporter: no pressure, right? this is the classic congressional deadline train wreck that we have gotten used to seeing here where a lot of deadlines come together at the same time. israel aid will get done. it is the single most popular thing working through either
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chamber in either party right now. i think the question is what rides along with it, whether, you know, lawmakers can convince enough colleagues to attach ukraine aid to it or it is a border security measure or anything gets attached to the measure to fund the government until january or some unknown date certain. i think that's the sort of special sauce that is being cooked up right now. how do you use something like aid to israel, which basically every member in both chambers wants to vote for in some capacity. and attach enough of the other stuff that people are less certain about to it, to move all these things through both chambers in the next two weeks. it is challenging under normal circumstances, it is especially challenging with the brand-new speaker. but this is what they're up against and time is short. >> what do you make of johnson's strategy here? you worked under both house speaker paul ryan, john boehner as well. >> yeah, you know, it strikes me that this is a new speaker, but it really speaks to where he came from. he's a relatively new member on
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the far right of the conference, and this is a strategy that feels very born out from that wing of the conference. it is let's pick a fight, let's find some way to unify our conference, and send it over to the senate, which is fine. being the leader, keeping your team together and dividing the other side, that's good and all. but the question becomes now what. and i'm not sure that the new speaker has figured out now what. the senate is not going to take this up. they haven't really put any pressure on the senate, and there is a very poor track record of one party in one chamber being able to assert their will over the other chamber when they're working in a bipartisan way. and it feels like the senate is going to be working in a bipartisan way to try to jam the house. i don't know that speaker johnson figured out what exactly he's going to do at that point, you know. i imagine it will be tough for him to swallow whatever the senate does, but hasn't set himself up very well to maneuver when the senate does act in a bipartisan way. >> had it comes to passing aid,
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for ukraine as well, johnson is saying he wants to pair it with resources for the border. you were on the hill, i believe, back in 2013 during this big immigration debate that completely fell apart. what are the chances of that actually even being able to happen? >> yeah, there is nothing harder in congressional politics than doing immigration policy. but that has become a flashpoint for republicans and they have said not just money, they want change in immigration policy to do anything on ukraine. that's where things are going to get really difficult, even in the senate where they're trying to work in a bipartisan way. the president has requested money for the border, but that's different than changing the policy and how we handle asylum and other ways that immigrants can get work in this country. if that's what this ends up becoming, it is not hard to see this getting wrapped around the axle. in the entire time i've been in politics, we have never been able to get immigration policy through the senate, so i can't imagine this is going to happen in this environment. so that may be the only thing that speaker johnson has going for himself.
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the senate itself could find trouble getting agreement on those things. so, there is a lot of rocky road ahead and not exactly sure how it all comes together. israeli funding is going to happen at some point and going to carry the day, just how much pain we have to go through to get there. >> at some point, israel funding happens, what happens to funding in ukraine i think is probably the big question mark here. and what i mentioned earlier, right, which is this looming possible government shutdown yet again, right, 14 days until that november 17th deadline. >> -- the new speaker wants to do a continuing resolution, extend the current government funding into early next year if he can sell conservatives on that. that would be a big win depending how he structures it. the new guy gets a little bit of a honeymoon here. that may fly in both chambers, though i think there is some skepticism about it. there are a number of other ideas floating around, new ways
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to think about how they do preparations. i'm skeptical any of them will work in the timeline we're dealing with here. look, the one thing that lawmakers in both chambers hate the most is getting jammed on deadlines where simple things get added, complex things get added to must pass things and next thing you know, you have some gigantic bill on a deadline where you can't read it. >> garrett haake, thank you. brendan buck, thank you as well. staying on capitol hill for a moment, the senate confirmed three top military officers going around senator tommy tuberville's months long blockade of senior military promotions. among those confirmed is admiral lisa franchetty, the first woman ld the navy and serve on the joint chiefs of staff. she served since2022 and commanded naval forces all around the world. the others include lieutenant general christopher mahoney and
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welcome back. on the ground in gaza, desperation is growing as residents look for missing loved ones. richard engel captured one man's search for his family. >> reporter: our crew watched as abdullah returned to the jabalia refugee camp, poor and crowded before the war and now being flattened by israeli strikes. he came to apologize to his family under the rubble that he couldn't do more to help them. i'm sorry i couldn't help you, he says. he adds a prayer and says to god, i can't take it anymore. after hours of digging, one daughter, 12-year-old leon, is found. he begs people to look for his youngest son abboud, who he promised to send to nurserys ap carried her back to neighbors.
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>> unicef strike gaza is a graveyard for thousands of children. joining us is the president of the palestine children's relief fund. sadly, steve, what we just witnessed, what we just showed our viewers has been happening all across gaza over the last few weeks. entire families gone with only one person standing, left standing. talk us through what your staff has been seeing and experiencing on the ground there. >> our staff on the ground are seeing what you're showing, which is just the absolute human carnage of innocent people being killed in their homes, no place to hide, no areas that are secure, whether -- even in hospitals as we have seen already with the bombing of the hospital and today with shifa hospital being bombed. there are no safe places for these children. gaza's 40% children under the age of 14. and over 4,000 of them have been killed already. there is no safe place for them.
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and families are being completely wiped out and there is many children being orphaned and permanently disabled and permanently injured. and it is just a complete human tragedy that goes beyond the scope of anything i could possibly express with my limited vocabulary because no words can truly express the suffering and the absolute poor misery that these people are going through. we have 40 social workers, field workers, humanitarian aid workers, accountants, procurement specialists, program managers. they're trying to survive. no place for them to really seek refuge and protect their own families. their homes have also been destroyed. they're also living in warehouses and in tents and in any place they can find refuge. we can't truly understand what is happening in gaza other than knowing it is a complete breakdown of social order and the humanitarian disaster gets worse every single day. >> how is your organization talking about and planning for the day after and what i mean by that is as you talk about these
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children, some of which have been able to survive, but who have lost parents, lost family members and who have nowhere to turn. >> that's a great question. first of all, we need to know when is -- what is gaza going to look like when this is over? will it be completely flattened? what will be the number of casualties? we have seen over 8,000 children have been significantly injured in addition to all those who have been killed. and organizations like ours, we come in and we have the responsibility of providing medical care to these kids. surgical treatment, but also we have a mental health program where we're trying to deal with the trauma, the mental health trauma that these children have experienced being witnessed and having firsthand experience with having their homes destroyed, family members killed, themselves injured, living in extreme poverty or in tents and in warehouses. these produce long-term significant post traumatic stress and anxiety and affect
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the children long into their lives. the rest of their lives. we're trying to find solutions that we can help heal not only the bodies of these kids and that's a big responsibility when there is thousands of children suffering significant injuries, but also heal their hearts and minds. there is every single child in gaza and there is 1 million of them are being deeply wounded, psychologically and physically by this -- by what has been happening there at the last month. >> quickly, we talked to dr. barbara zind yesterday, was trapped for the last more or so. are there efforts to get others out within your organization? >> well, yes, of course, we are trying to get injured children out. we're trying to get sick kids out. we have kids with cancer, injured children, who need medical care they can't get locally. not only the injured children that need medical care, but we as an organization have been the main group sending in teams to do open heart surgery on children. those kids now can't get treatment. there is 500 babies born a year
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with heart defects were we treating and providing life saving surgery for. what about the ks being treated in the cancer department we built in 2019. the onlyanr department for children in gaza. what happens to those kids chemotherapy runs out and physicians and nurses are not able to have access to that hospital in gaza city? what happens to the kids who are on dialysis as medicine runs out? what about the kids with cystic fibrosis and autism and all these other medical conditions in addition to all the other injured children. what happens to them? our organization is trying to assist them, get them out for treatment and bring medical teams in to be able to provide treatment on the ground and leave the exhausted surgeons. the borders are not enabling us to get injured kids out or doctors in, the closure of the borders, i mean. >> steve, thank you so much. appreciate it. okay. back here at home, eric trump back on the stand in the trump civil fraud trial. his sister ivanka set to testify next week. why do prosecutors want to hear
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48 past the hour. court is now adjourned for the day in the $250 million civil fraud trial against members of the trump family and their company. earlier, eric trump back on the stand for a second day. on thursday, he initially denied he was ever involved with his father's financial state before a tense exchange with prosecutors where he acknowledged he provided some information to the co-defendant who prepared them. this monday, when court reconvenes, donald trump, the former president, expected to testify followed by ivanka who was denied a request to postpone her testimony. i want to bring in lisa rubin, who was inside the courtroom in lower manhattan and danny cevallos on set, a criminal defense attorney and nbc news legal analyst. so, that was surprising that they adjourned for the day to say the least. talk us through that, some of what you saw in the courtroom, any kind of replay of yesterday
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and the contentious exchange that eric trump had. >> reporter: eric trump did show momentary flashes of anger today, but today really also underscored how deeply involved eric trump has become in managing his family business and no moment underscored that better than when eric trump said that the negotiation of allen weisselberg's $2 million severance agreement, that's an agreement that obligates him not only to not disparage or criticize the trump organization and its former and current executives, but also prevents him from essentially cooperating with anyone who has an adverse claim against the trump organization, a group that obviously includes the attorney general. the negotiation and signing of that document, approval to do it. he quite proudly said i did it alone. those were his words today. we saw eric trump sort of come into his own today for better or for worse, as the successor to his father, and managing and controlling the trump organization. >> what do you make of some of
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what we just heard from lisa and kind of this mew showing from eric trump? and also how they're both kind of donald trump jr. in his testimony before we look ahead to the former president on monday, saying instead, no, this accounting was done by our accountants. that's why we pay cpas, why we give responsibility to our taxes being done by mazar's, their former accounting firm. >> there was zero surprise this was the testimony we got from the trump sons, because it was the only direction that they could possibly go. in other words, you knew they were going to take the stand and essentially say some version of, yes, i may have been a higher up in the organization, but that doesn't mean i know everything that goes on in the organization. we rely on people like accountants. i don't look at everything line by line. i'm busy and i think this is a quote, pouring concrete. i'm not dealing with things like the accounting and the details. that's why i hire a fall ngs of
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people to do that for us. >> what are the expectations come monday with the former president taking the stand? >> well, every time that the former president is here at trial, whether he's on the stand, which he hasn't been yet, or not, the security is tight. the lines are long. and most importantly, people like me who are in the courtroom, we don't get to see those impromptu press conferences he has. that's for his protection, the secret service insures the courtroom doors are closed. nobody can come in or out as he's making those statements. that means the only person who really has a full view of what donald trump is doing is donald trump himself. so i look forward to reporting to you what's going on in the courtroom itself on monday. but we'll have to rely on our nbc news and msnbc colleagues to show you what trump is saying on the breaks between his testimony about what's going on inside. those are going to be two very different donald trumps. >> then there's ivanka trump, obviously, has to testify, trying to evade that, right?
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welcome back. 57 past the hour, as the israel/hamas war rages. anti-semitism, islamophobia are escalating across colle campuses. they are swamped with quested and the wait time has reached a few weeks according to a senior official. nbc's emilie ikeda joins us where classes have been canceled at cornell today. if you will, walk us through what's happening there. >> reporter: hey there. good to be with you. you get a sense the tenor on college campuses has increased in tensity in recent weeks.
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we're seeing universities really try to quell some concern coast to coast. in the backdrop of all this, we have seen some protests turn violent. we have seen threats being made, posters of hostages being ripped down, so there's certainly this sense of unease among students. we're seeing the launching of different task forces, safety task forces at cornell university. today is a restorative day, a community day where classes have been canceled, including earlier this week, a student was arrested for alleged lemaking violent anti-semitic threats here. according to the alarming rise in anti-semitism, there has been an increase in islam aphobic reports as well. we talked to students on both sides of the conflict on how the environment is here on the college campus. take a listen. >> i want people to know that the jewish people are hurting. we're very strong, we have been through a lot, so we know how to deal with these issues. but that doesn't mean we're not
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affected by it and not upset. >> is there anyway part of you that is fearful, even sitting down in this interview with me today. >> i'm very afraid of it, actually. i have been put on a website, and there's been articles written about me. if i'm too scared to say anything, like, what does that say to my identity of being palestinian? who am i to be silences? >> and there is a federal task force, as you mentioned, that is geared at improving safety on college campuses, preventing physical attacks, and we're learning from senior officials that they are just absolutely swamped in requests, really a nod to what has been going on on the ground here and at so many campuses across the country. >> thank you so much. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm yasmin vossoughian. andrea mitchell reports starts right now. and right now on andrea mitchell

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