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>> ahead this hour, a shocking new poll, and this headline, trump and his allies plot revenge, and how they might use the military. a very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome, everyone, tell us what reports. it is one pm here on the east coast, a pm in the middle east. we begin with breaking news as the israel-hamas war enters the second month of fighting. here is what's new this hour. secretary blinken met with palestinian leader, mahmoud abbas, he claims -- hamas claimshat dozens were killed and a strike in a prime minister netanyahu again says that there will be no cease-fire until hostages are freed. the world food programme is requesting more humanitarian access to relieve the nightmare of life in gaza. [sound of artillery] >> there's new video released

by the hamas military weighing shows what it says are rockets being fired into israel. also new this, our police in turkey are using water cannons on protesters who came to close to the u.s. military base today. israel's military continues to pound the gaza strip with missile strikes and ground operations, and living conditions are worsening as arab leaders push for a humanitarian pause. today, he leaders remain divided on this issue. >> i've met with some of the families on friday, george, of those victims, those hostages. people who died in the attack on the seventh. they want relief, they want their families back. that is why this top, pause, needs to happen needs to stop. hamas needs to be eliminated. hamas working with iran has been plotting and planning for months, if not over a year, to invades israel. >> israel has a right to defend itself. what israel does not have a right to do is to kill thousands and thousands of

innocent men, women, and children who had nothing to do with that attack. >> also new this, our bipartisan agreement to turn up the rhetoric on iran tomorrow. two senators will introduce a sense of the senate revolution, threatening to escalate tensions in the middle east by striking iran however, adam, it is nonbinding on president biden. >> if hezbollah opens up a second front in the north against israel, in a substantial way, to overwhelm the iron dome, then we should hit the islamic republic of iran. all of this military force in the region will be coming after you if you expand this war by aggravating hezbollah, or killing americans through proxies and syrian iraq. >> it's aggressive but it's absolutely necessary. it's not only in israel's explicit interest. we visited saudi arabia and egypt, and believe me, they fear around, and hezbollah, and

it's hamas, send the other countries as much as israel. >> we have two reports from the region on those key developments, both militarily and diplomatically. we'll be talking with congress woman on cease-fire efforts in a domestic divide created by the war, but we're going to go right now to matt bradley. he's joining us from beirut, lebanon. matt, i want to thank you for joining us. i know that you are going to come right after nbc's erin maclachlan. she is had to take cover. there are air raid sirens where she is right now. she is in tel aviv. hang on a second, let's take a listen to the air right sirens here in tel aviv. [sirens] >> all, right it's precisely the reasons just like that that we're going to get our mclaughlin back on camera once there is the succession of those air raid sirens.

we are going to go back to you in beirut, lebanon. what more do we know about secretaries blinken's visit to the west bank, what specifically did he talk about with the palestinian authority? >> well, alex, this was a secret visit. he didn't tell anyone he was going. he went by motorcade. i actually confirmed to reporters that he had even been there until after he had left the west bank. this shows the depth of anger amongst palestinians in the west bank, that even though they did to know but the surprise visit, there were protesters in the street demonstrating against his visit even while he was there. they settle that quickly. he talked about a range of topics with palestinian president, mahmoud abbas. the one that is really vaccine, the one that will really govern how this thing goes is who will govern the gaza strip after israel, or if israel completes its goal of completely dismantling hamas? that group that attacked israel on october 7th, and set out a

miscellaneous round of fighting that as you mentioned is entering its second month. the question was, for blinken, unit, he was pressing my mood to boss to try to take control over the gaza strip. and i moved to boston, his palestinian authority, have no authority over the gaza strip. they have been since 2007 when hamas violently expelled them in fighting between these two palestinian groups. now, mahmoud abbas responded according to agencies, according to sources from within the state department who spoke with the associated press and reuters. this is not going to happen until there is some sort of comprehensive peace agreement that governs israel and the palestinian territories fully. that is something that is something negotiators and the international community, and the palestinians, -- for the past several generations. that is something that doesn't seem like it's going to be likely, especially given the depth that we have experienced in the last month. this is something that has been pushed further and further down the road. but we can also discuss some other issues, that israelis have been freezing some tax, money, remittance taxes, and

they unfroze them a little last week. the palestinians what all of that money. there's also been a spike in deaths and killings by the israelis and palestinians in the west bank over the past several months. i have to tell, you, alex this is been the deadliest month for palestinians even before this latest crisis started in the west bank by the united nations, according to the united nations, ever since they started taking numbers on this back of the early 2000s. this is already been a very violent situation in the west bank. we've heard from blinken, apparently, that he assured president mahmoud to boss that they would try to pressure the israelis to try to tame down on this. there is another issue, settlers in the west bank have been exacting violence against palestinians. this is been going on for decades. it spiked ever since this latest crisis on october 7th. mahmoud to boss was pressing the u.s. press secretary of state to try to pressure the israelis to do something about the settlers of the west bank who have essentially been

rioting, and punishing the palestinians there are so much. so much more than over the past four weeks. so it just goes to show, alex, this is a crisis that is not just confined to gaza and the israeli, this is one that envelopes not just that, but also all of the palestinian territories. also, here in lebanon, we're seeing an increase in violence over the past several weeks. over the past several days. alex. >> okay, matt bradley, thank you so much. i appreciate you jumping there and being ready. we do now have aaron mclaughlin, everyone. those arid sirens have stopped there in tel aviv, we're glad you're safe, so let's get to what i want to ask you which is what you're hearing at the latest military actions. reports of fighting, specifically, near a hospital in gaza city. >> yeah, of the threat, alex. there was fierce fighting according to the palestinian red crescent around the area of the al-quds hospital in gaza city, it's one of the main hospitals in gaza, according to the palestinian red crescent.

there was israeli artillery fire in the area, intense bombardment, israel's israeli airstrikes. one of the air strikes hit a bill dane 15 meters away from the entrance of the hospital, damaging the hospital as well as injuring some of the palestinians who were taking refuge inside of the hospital. now the israeli military, about, there has not commented on any of that activity today. we had a team on the ground, inside gaza city, that try to reach al-quds hospital today. they were unable to do so because of the violence. instead, they went to al-shifa hospital which is the main hospital in gaza. also a sight of controversy as the military alleges that hamas headquarters are located underneath the al-shifa hospital. our team inside the hospitals seem complete chaos.

the hospital is absolutely full of patients. the hospital staff is taxed, and scared. take a listen to what one palestinian doctor had to say to our team. >> i saw a lot of people, children, who -- this is a tragedy. this is a catastrophe. a chief a hospital, a huge number of casualties are out of control. >> as the fighting continues in the northern portion of gaza, the israeli military is reiterating today it's called a palestinian civilians need to evacuate from the north to the south, creating a four hour window today for them to do so. also pointing to over 1 million pamphlets they say they've distributed to palestinian civilians, calling for them to evacuate, as well as pointing to phone calls and as the

messages that have been sent. all of that has, however, been difficult given the fact that many of these roadways have been completely bombed. it is still very difficult to move from the north and the south, and it should also be said that israeli strikes are happening to the south of gaza. in fact, overnight, a refugee camp was hit, killing 47 palestinians. that's according to the palestinian health ministry. we have been unable to verify that death toll. alex. >> gotta tell, you listening to that doctor, a match and how doctors are nurses are feeling right now. they are trained to save lives, and they have patients, children coming in, and they can't do anything. they have no supplies. they're watching children die. as he was describing. quickly, may i ask you, that aerate siren that we had to delay bringing you on the show for, how often is that happening? what's that like? are you seen evidence of anything, anything drop, in any kind of explosions anywhere? >> yeah, it happens in a matter

of seconds. we heard sirens, and then we could see that the iron dome had been activated. it's unclear, we have understood from one of the people follow here that indicates when rockets, missiles are being fired in the direction of israel. we understand that a missile was fired towards this direction. we don't know where that missile come from at this hour. it is not an entirely unusual occurrence given where it's going. >> wow, there's an app for incoming missiles. that is extraordinary. thank you for that. joining me right now, democratic congressman from california. he is a member of the armed services committee. as, always good to have you. here as we, now secretary blinken is on get another shuttle diplomacy tour of the middle east. the civilian death toll in gaza takes up, and more than 1.4 million have been displaced over 200 israeli hostages are

still missing. so here's the big question, what can and should the u.s. be doing at this moment? >> alex, it's a heartbreaking situation. president obama actually offered some of the most thoughtful comments over the weekend. israel absolutely -- >> congressman, hang on. congressman, just one moment. we actually have anthony blinken, and we understand that he is making a statement. let's take a listen. >> the attacks conducted by militia at our personnel, both in iraq as well as in syria. job number one for me is to ensure the security of our people. i have an update on everything we're doing to make sure that our personnel are safe and secure. in addition, i had a good productive, candid meeting with prime minister -- there were really two areas of focus for me in that meeting. the first was to reaffirm our commitment to our partnership

with iraq. we have made tremendous progress with the rock in recent years, particularly working with the iraqi government on everything from economic reform, to energy independent, stealthy and strengthen its institutions, building respect for human rights. three not only the security aspects of relationship, all of these different aspects. we call it 360 degrees, and we're committed to it. so we did a, we had a discussion about that, and the progress we've made. same time, it was very important to send a very clear message to anyone who might seek to take advantage of a conflict in gaza to threaten our personnel here, or anywhere in the region. don't do it. i made very clear that the attacks, the threats coming from militia that are aligned with iran are totally unacceptable, and we will take every necessary step to protect

our people. we're not looking for conflict from iran, we've made that clear. we will do what's necessary to protect our personnel, be their military or civilian. prime minister also donie has been very clear, his condemnation of the talks a directed our people, and his determination to do is necessary to make sure that that doesn't happen. so, we have a good, as i said, candid, important conversation. more broadly, we're working very hard to make sure that the conflict in gaza does not escalate, does not spread to other places. whether it's here, whether it's elsewhere in the region, this is the very vital and urgent work of american diplomacy. that's what we've been engaged in as well, throughout the strip. happy to take a few questions. >> secretary, thank you for taking questions.

yesterday, president joe biden, when asked, whether he knew he things progress is being made in getting israel to put a pause on strikes. he said, yes. based on your conversations with israel on friday, and -- yesterday today, do you share the president's optimism? why hasn't a deal been agreed to yet? how do you get around israel's categorical rejection of any kind of a deal that many people seem to think is a logical step? >> first, as this, at following my conversations with the prime minister and with the israeli government, this is a process. israel has raised an important question about how humanitarian policies will work. we've got to answer those questions. we're working on exactly. that in fact, we've agreed that our teams would get together, and they're doing just that, including today, to work through the specifics, the

practicalities of these clauses. second, it's important that the pause advance a number of things. one of them is hostages. we are intensely focus in the united states, israel, every other country, that has one of its citizens being held hostage by hamas, to bring them home. now, it's important that as we're engaged in pursuing humanitarian pause, this is something that advances the project of getting the hostages back. it could also announce other things that were committed to doing, as is the government of israel, and other partisan regions. especially getting more humanitarian assistance to people who need it in gaza. i'll remind you, when we had conversations three weeks ago about starting humanitarian assistance, it was a process actually get that moving. we had a commitment to do that, it took some days to get the process in place, and since

then, we've had trucks moving, we've had about 100 trucks a day going. and that's good. it's grossly insufficient. so now we're working on raising that significantly so that more aide, and sustained, way it gets and to palestinians who need at. there again, the humanitarian -- can help advance, that and create an environment in which we can do as much as possible for people who so desperately need the assistance. >> yesterday, the -- said that nothing short of a total cease-fire would be acceptable. did you make any progress and convincing them that a humanitarian pause would be a reasonable compromise? >> i think everyone would welcome humanitarian policies. there's no doubt about that. there is different views, including on questions of the cease-fire, but there is no doubt from my conversations with all of our colleagues who are there yesterday, everyone welcomes this pause. it could advance things that world trying to accomplish. including getting hostages back, including getting a lot more assistance into gaza, including

getting people out of gaza. citizens from other countries who seek important progress there. in recent days, that also will complications that come along with that. we continue to work through them. and each of these areas, our humanitarian pause, a pause could make a positive difference. >> thank you very much for answering my question. and i'm with the washington post. question about your visit today. and iraq, what kind of steps did you talk about with the president, specific steps that they could take out the government to try to reduce the militia attacks on u.s. forces here, and looking back at ramallah, you said that you have a view for the palestinian authority to have a potential governance role in gaza. i wanted to ask what president a boss view was that today.

you know, if he's in favor. why do you think that's a great idea given the generally low view of the palestinian authority among palestinians? >> well, first, with regard to iraq, prime minister sued on his spoken up clearly. in fact, he made an important statement about a week ago, october 23rd, condemning these attacks, and making clear the imperative that they stop. and in addition, he is working with his own security forces, and others, to take necessary action to deal with his attacks, to seek to prevent them, so we talked about that. i can't get into specifics, but this is a matter of iraqi sovereignty. no country wants to have militia groups engaged in violent activity that is clearly against the interest of iraq and its own sovereignty, as well as against our interests. so i think that we have a shared purpose and commitments,

in trying to make sure that these attacks don't happen. we also share the interests, and interest that is shared with virtually everyone in the region to make sure that the conflict in gaza doesn't support other places, whether it's here, elsewhere in the region. everyone is looking to take the necessary steps, use their authority, use their influence to try to make sure that the stops, doesn't happen. with regard to the visit to ramallah, the palestinian authority, look, they are and we are very focused on the day of. even as we need to be thinking about the day after. i'm think that what is clear is that with regard to the day after, with regard to the future, gaza, west bank, palestinian views, palestinian voices, palestinian aspirations need to be at the center of that. that is what we focus on. the pga has been played a very

important role right now in the west bank and trying to keep stability there. that is usually important because no one wants another front in the west bank, or anywhere else. and, there really stepping up under very difficult conditions to do the necessary work. if you project forward to the future, what we all agree is that in defining that future, and shaping that future, for gaza, for the west bank, and ultimately for palestinian state, palestinian voices have to be at the center of that. the palestinian authority is the representative of those voices. it's important that it plays a leading role. thanks. >> okay, everyone, secretary of state, anthony blinken, and that is a brief chat with reporters there on the heels of an unannounced visit. he was coming from a secure location within baghdad have been met with the iraqi prime minister today, among the many topics he discussed was telling

the iraqi prime minister that there should be no harm to come to any u.s. personnel, military personnel, in the region or there would be a price to pay for that. he also extended that to american citizens in the region as well. let's go right now back to congressman ro khanna. i welcome you back to this. i'm sure you were hearing the secretary of state. tell me what you took away from that brief q&a that he offered. >> the secretary is doing his best to make sure that we are protecting americans. he's doing his best to get the military into gaza. he recognizes israel's right to go after the hamas perpetrators that committed the atrocity on october 7th, and the need to free hostages. i think that he is a really mindful of the civilian casualties, it working to see how he can reduce this. i also believe it was important for him to say that these

aspirations, the palestinian rights will be under threats under -- the need for [inaudible] to have this space, the secretary talked about palestinian voices. >> he's absolutely an example of shuttle diplomacy right now, going from place to place. in fact, as you, know in the west bank today, he rebuffed calls from president mahmoud abbas and other arab leaders for an immediate cease fire. theate department says that blinken instead has made it clear the palestinians must not be forcibly displaced, and renewed his call for humanitarian pause. the question to you, is the biden administration's diplomatic approach working? >> alex, they are doing everything possible to get it to work. we need, of course, the humanitarian aid to get in.

i do think that they are making progress towards that. i also believe that behind the scenes, they are making it clear that while you can go after the hamas terrorists, and the duty of the moss terrace's to free the hostages, then we have needed patients. they have to be mindful of bombings, of hospitals and schools, to be engaged in going after terrorists with less civilian casualties. i do believe that he is making this clear through this kind of diplomacy. >> you saw the tens of thousands protested in the nation's capital, another world cities yesterday, all calling for a cease-fire. eight t -- some of your democratic colleagues, they are supporting an immediate cease fire resolution. you are not among them. and, fact an interesting story that we read about your political director for your reelection campaign, you

recently hired, or resigned over concern that you are not going far enough in your calls for de-escalation. so why not call for a cease-fire? is a humanitarian pause enough? by the, way you in your position, you are very good company, there are a lot of people feel in the what you do, but what's it about? >> that's a very difficult situation. i do believe that the hamas terrorist group committed the act on october 7th, they need to be brought to justice. and, israel has a right to do that. i also believe the hostages must be freed. that's why i have not joined the cease-fire. i have called for a humanitarian pause, getting food and water, fuel, into gaza. i have also said that the bombing should not be in schools, and hospitals, and refugee camps, against population areas. even though hamas uses civilians as human shields,

even though it is a very complex issue. there cannot be the killing of hundreds of civilians just to get a few hamas terrorists. that, in my view, is how we can have diplomacy. >> one of the most outspoken of the progressives calling for a cease-fire is michigan congressman, -- who is the only palestinian american in congress. she believes this video on friday. let's look at this together >> we will remember the 2024. >> so those last few frames said that joe biden supported the genocide of the palestinian people. the american people will not forget.

what do you make of her pressure campaign on the president? >> wall, i would say that representative tlaib should look at the option. you have donald trump talking about not allowing palestinians in america to, state american, some of them republicans talking about a muslim ban. if you had critiques of the administration's policy, obviously i think the administration should engage with a call to the cease-fire, and should have dialogue with them. in my view, the alternative of handing the presidency to donald trump is not only disastrous for america, not only disastrous for progressives and muslim american community, it's disasters for the world. >> let me show you something that may make you feel even less settled, if you're not familiar with, that we're going to show you a new york times poll that is out today in which donald trump leads biden and

five critical states it. nevada by ten, points georgia bisects, arizona and michigan by five. how concerned are you about that? >> alex, i'm concerned. those polls, anyone looking at them would be concerned. what are we going to do about it? the issue is not just to say that what is a white house -- this is a moment of citizenship, alex. our democracy, whether we're going to be a cohesive multiracial democracy, it's on the ballot. all of us as citizens need to do what we can to help succeed, and make sure that the president winds. i believe we do, that we vocalize we can win, we can get the economic message out, we can get the choice out, but what i would say to people criticizing the white house is what are you doing? what are you doing? that's how obama. one the movements aren't just about the president. they're about what we as citizens have a responsibility to do. this should be a wake up call

to all of us. >> the word cohesive brings me to this question. your fellow congressman, democrat dean phillips, he launched a campaign for presidents. then we see gavin newsom who says he's not going to run, but recently meeting with chinese president xi jinping, has also been accused of running a campaign. do the democrats need an alternative to biden, or is it a mistake to challenge them and not keep the democratic party under a cohesive blanket, if you will? >> well, i support strongly the president. i think that he is the strongest candidate to be able to beat donald. trump this is on the american rescue plan. the inflation reduction act. and the infrastructure bill, all of the things that he has delivered for the american people. look, people have a right to run the campaigns, they have a right to fly around the world. i'm not going to tell other people what they can or cannot do. there are american citizens. what i will say is this, if you care about as winning in 2024,

go with joe biden, he's a nominee. what are we doing to help make him the strongest possible candidate for reelection. >> let me get into one more situation. the politics on the hill, there the new speaker, by johnson, the house has approved a 14 million dollar aid package to israel, and it was having nearly equal cuts the iris. does not include any funding aid to ukraine. it is said to be doa on the senate. biden says he'll veto it if it gets to him, so what happens now? >> well what mike johnson dead, he tied israel aid with basically getting tax breaks for the wealthy, and cutting the enforcement arm of the iris that collects tax revenue. that was deeply -- he actually jeopardized our relationship with an ally. he also zeroed out, by the, way any dumb humanitarian aid for

the people in gaza. totally -- i don't know how he reconciles them with his own talking about scripture to not have any food, water, aid into gaza. i believe that now it depends on senator schumer in the senate. then send this to the house to then passed bipartisan senate bill. >> okay, california congressman, a little extra time with, you think pursuing with, us sir, through the brief news conference that we had with anthony blinken. appreciate your time. coming, out we're going to have more on these developments for the middle east. that'll be in a few minutes. first, the donald trump appointed judge in the mar-a-lago case did something that even surprised the reporter who wrote this article we're looking at. and going to talk with him next. we're back in 60 seconds. seconds nothing beats it. new pronamel active shield actively shields the enamel to defend against erosion and cavities.

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he will take the stand to be questioned by prosecutors in the quarter billion dollar civil fraud trial. this threatens to ban his family from doing business in the state of new york. his sons john junior and eric testified last week, his daughter ivanka will get the last one when she takes a stand on wednesday. joining me, now hugo lowell, reported with the guardian. thanks for being here. considering your previous appearance says, what are your sources telling you about what donald trump wants to accomplish on the stand tomorrow? >> i think is less about what he wants to accomplish, and more about what he wants to avoid in terms of pitfalls. you know his lawyers are concerned about two things. one is evaluations, we saw our trump last week at tripped up a little bit on evaluations of things like mar-a-lago. is it a private club or is that a private residence? if it's a residence, then trump has been valuing that at a far greater figure than if it was a private club, remembers club, which he was representing into the tax authorities from the

city of palm beach. then he'd get a tax break on that site. so he's going to be pinned down on fs1 or the out there, his lawyers are a little concerned about how that might come up, because they have a lot of public testimony beforehand, he's got a lot of depositions. >> this is a guy who's been pretty defiant. he has violated gag orders and thereby owes at least 15 ground right now that he pays and finds. he has been slapped with those, he and his lawyers have the gag order, or do you expect him to continue to push the envelope though? is it something that is chunk change, 15 grand? >> interesting question. so before the 15,000 dollar fine as opposed to, and his team was talking about, all, will push it, we can always argue that, you know, it was not as prosecutors see, it is not as a judge sees that. he tried that in this case, and the judge didn't agree with them. he was extremely furious at the $15,000 he was being made to pay out of his own pocket. here is something on pots of america. here is he -- this is something that has

weighed on him a little bit, and i think his team is thinking about what they want to continue to push the envelope, or there's more creative ways to have the proceedings in general. >> i am curious about ivanka, the extent to which donald trump could be worried about what she has to say on wednesday, given what role she played and trump. >> she was very close, as the other kids, we're in terms of running the trump administration. she is not a defendant per se in this case, because the judge ruled that the statute of limitations meant that she was no longer involved in the company the time it was -- that she still is to take the stand. a vanko was, you know, involved in a lot of trump's internal kind of politics, and she's very close to the presidents. i think trump is particularly aggrieved about having this say about the -- we'll see what that goes. >> i know you've written about judge cannon in florida. she seems inclined to want to

delay the trial there. what are you hearing about that? can? she is she talks about calendar issues, but where does it stand? >> i was in the courtroom for that hearing last week, and it was abundantly clear that the judge wants to push this back. she was giving the trump teen every opportunity to say, you know, do you have enough time? >> how far back? >> this is going to be the key question. a number of deadlines that are coming up in terms of filing motions under the classified informations act. if judge cannon pushes back a series of those deadlines, it will have the effect of push in an entire schedule back. whether that is one, month two months, three months, it's difficult to tell. the reason she gave in the hearing, on wednesday, was, well, if we're going to go to trial in d.c. in march, and that whole case takes roughly two months, that trial in d.c. might not be finished by the time the trial happens on the

documents case. she may push back more months. it is too close to the election, then she'll decided to close the election, that's up to the judge. >> thank you very much, appreciate you. it is probably not what you expected when the israel gaza war started, but here in the u.s., that is all too real, and ugly. ugly buy one footlong in the app, get one free. it's a pretty big deal. kinda like me. order in the subway app today. ugh, i'll deal with this tomorrow. you won't. it's ripe in here. my eyes are watering. look how crusty this is. ugh, it's just too much. not with this. good advice. when stains and odors pile up, it's got to be tide.

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idea of a pause in fighting in gaza comes with some conditions. the israelis have said that a cease-fire is not on the table for that, and the u.s. is not asking for a cease-fire. the u.s. has been asked again, as a secretary of state blended just days ago, rather, friday, when he was in, israel asking for humanitarian pauses. the secretary talked about the conditions, saying the conditions for how, when, and where those policies as might happen. he was asked about that today, this afternoon, as we spoke and baghdad. i want you to hear response about what it would take to have a pause. >> it's important that the pause advance a number of things. one of them is hostages. we are intensely focused and the united states, israel, every other country that has one of its citizens being held hostage by hamas to bring them home. now, it's important that as we are engaging in pursuing humanitarian pause, this is something that could advance

the prospect of getting the hostages back. >> the secretary has said that there are ongoing conversations about setting up those conditions so that there can be a pause that would allow for the release of hostages, and allow for more aid to be getting into gaza for the people who need it there. these moves on to turkey, which is a plan on this trip where he engages with the porn minister there. more about keeping the conflict in gaza from spreading to other parts of the arab world, in about how to help the humanitarian situation that's unfolding in gaza as well. alex. >> thank you so much, from delaware, for that. joining me now, msnbc's national security analyst and distinguish research fellow at the foreign policy research institute. clinton, welcome. secretary of state blinken has renewed calls for a humanitarian pause and israel's war operations. they want to allow aid into gaza. they say a pause would allow israel to achieve its goal of defeating hamas. what do you think about a humanitarian pause? can hamas use that time to

regroup? >> hamas cod. i don't know that they would the. remember, they've been under 2 to 3 weeks now of sustained perimeter around their operations, sustained balmain. i'm not confident that they could do much during that time, in the sense that any preparations that they've made for any israeli invasion happened long ago. that's the networks that they've built, excuse, me the tunnel network they felt. that's all of their operations in terms of reaction. i don't see as really helping a mosque. do you think it's something that we should look at based on all the civilian casualties that have been coming out of gaza in the last 2 to 3 days. >> so if that is an underpinning for benjamin netanyahu in israel for saying that we're not going to have any sort of cessation of military activity to allow for aid to get into gaza until we get our hostages back, but if an underpinning of that is, well, hamas could regroup, and you think they can't, wouldn't it be to israel's benefit from

a political perspective, diplomacy perspective, standing in the world to allow for even a brief humanitarian pause to get the aid in their? >> i think so. you heard secretary blinken talk about getting more age than what is currently at the egyptian border into southern gaza. there is an extreme humanitarian situation there. separately, i would think that at least on the israeli military, they are committed to reducing civilian casualties. the more civilians they get out of the sector, which is mostly northern gaza this point, the more civilians they get out of, that the last chance they're going to have civilian casualties. i would note that this is an extremely dense urban area that they are conducting fighting and. any airstrike that hits anywhere in north gaza is going to be dangerously close, if not on top of some civilians if they're still in that area. i don't see why a pause wouldn't allow some relief in terms of the civilians that are in that sector to move to the

south. >> yeah. stateside, here there have been nearly 400% spike in antisemitic incidents since the hamas attack on israel on october 7th. many of them on campuses, also a proliferation of hate related threats on the internet. law enforcement escorts have already been sounding the alarm on that level. the rise of antisemitism in recent years. what can federal and local agencies do? let's add to that the threats against arab americans to. there was a hit and run incident on friday, injured a muslim stanford university student. that's being investigated as a hate crime. so what can be done from a law enforcement strategy? >> i think that the critical thing is suspicious activity reporting, and the reporting on if you see something that is been the tradition, and what pity over the last two decades. that has to tick up. there has to be a renewed focus on what needs to be -- the other part is triaging that data.

we've done it in the counterterrorism, era we need to expand it as quickly as possible. that's moving from generalized threats to specific targets, with times and locations. specificity around who the targets will be, all of that needs to be pushed up the chain as quickly as possible. to do, that you really need a task force. the joint terrorism task force, to make sure that they can facilitate that sort of exchange from the federal state down to the local level. >> okay, clint watts, thank you so much. a bit rougher than i intended but you can blame it on the secretary of state. thank you so much. donald trump takes the stand tomorrow, former federal prosecutor tells us what he's going to be looking out in testimony the quote up in the case. in th case

new today, a trump ballot as nbc news that donald trump's mood is defined as hecomes the first former president to take the stand in his own defense. tomorrow, he said to testify and the 0 million dollar civil fraud trial in new york. his daughter, ivanka, we'll take this in a wednesday following her brother's testimonies last week. joining me now, a legal affairs columnist with political, as well as a former federal prosecutor. welcome back, it's good to see you again. so this is going to be the first time donald trump is actually formally called this take the stand in any of his trials. what do you expect in this testimony? >> well, i think it's going to be a wild ride, alex. his lawyers actually try to steer him away from this. they essentially were laying down in this trial by having

him and his sons take the fifth hundreds of times. potentially given up in this trial, because in a civil trial, when you take the fifth, it could be used against you. the testimony from his sons is all ben that the father, or that donald trump was -- but i really don't believe that donald trump is going to take the stand and say i had nothing to do with anything, i let my sons run this, and eventually, say you know, put it all on them. i don't think guilty that. you really do think that the lawyers with the new york attorney general are going to be able to rope him into taking some responsibility here and undoing all that his legal team is try to do on his own behalf. >> he may try to take that attack of the sons that which is always the accountants fault. we made them so much money, here's what they gave. as we just presumed it was right and we signed off on it. so we might hear that as well. what about ivanka on wednesday? could anything she say blow the trial? >> she is much more careful,

alex. she is going to be walking a tightrope between trying to please your father and say -- while also not taking any responsibility for herself. i can definitely see here trying to play into this accounts, obviously none of them are going to be taking the stand saying it's all their fault so she is in a very challenging position. >> i can imagine. let me ask you quickly about a constitutional question i have. there's a new article, this is from the washington post. he says trump's allies are plotting revenge against his critics, and plan to weaponize the doj. it yshe former president's naming individuals that he wants to investigate or prosecute, and his associates are dropping plans to invoke the insurrection act on his first day in office tullahoma to deploy the military against civil demonstrations. does he need to take a look at the constitution which are saying he's going to do this? come on. >> you know, when i read that article, alex, i said to myself,

at this happens, i'm going to be in court. along with all of the people being estimated. also a national television, you are ultimately, god help us all if this happens. if you are prosecuted by donald trump's white house, in an unconstitutional, layer on fairway, i will be there in court standing with you. i just think that the reality is, i don't believe the united states of america, even if the israel acted with judges and juries, they're going to go along with this nonsense. absolutely, this would violate the united states constitution. >> let's hope it does not happen. if it, does you're going to be here on the weekends talking about it with me. thank you very much. we'll take a look, everyone, and what happens on tuesday. what will the headlines be wednesday morning, the day after? after?

well now it feels like home. what a shock, your for trump. i'm going to follow for dad. your anger against the truth is reprehensible. >> former new jersey governor and presidential candidate, chris christie, getting viciously booed, in fact, at the gop event in florida for criticizing donaldump. one sign of a political times. here's another. the new york times siena college poll showing donald trump leading president biden and five of six swing states. then there is that new article that we talked about briefly, trump allies plot revenge. all this exactly one year from election day 2024. joining me now, my sunday family, we have don calloway, the national action fund. susan del percio, republican strategist, and david jolly, former gop congressman from nbc political analysts. david, that reception for chris christie, in your state, in maine you would think the guy hits shut down the gates of the florida keys. what do you make of the new poll in the trump revenge plot?

put it all together, how concerning is this? >> yeah, start with christie. this is never been his race. it is not his. race he wants to get his message out there. he's doing. at this is not the party that wants to hear at, so you can hear the boos. the pole though, the poll that came out regarding trump and biden in swing states is very significant. there is no good news for joe biden in today's poll. i think that biden knows that, they have to look at it. i would say the two takeaways, that can inform joe biden's camp, are both donald trump negatives, they're as higher or higher than joe biden. is there is an opportunity to remind the american people why they threw trump out of office in the first place. secondly, and you can take the says it is, it also is an indication that donald trump's j six allegations are not what's informing voters decisions. let's informing voters decisions as the economy, and matters of national and international security. i think we can expect joe biden to make sure voters understand his leadership on those two issues.

>> dawn, i asked congressman ro khanna about the new poll from the new york times and siena college. he said the democrats need to make sure the president ones. is he, right or is it time to raise an electability question, or consider an alternative candidates? is there time to even do that? >> no. that's the point. it's not about whether or not we would have an alternative, or someone younger more exciting, but working with joe biden, let's talk about why i'm not concerned about this poll, david brings up some great points is, not good news for joe biden, but a democratic campaign is an operation of two things. cultivating new voters, and bringing out existing voters. that takes a whole lot of time. you really don't see the results of what that's going to look like about 30 days before national elections. so i revert back to the memo to his clients, which we write about a month ago, which says donald trump is still extraordinarily high, and joe biden still has a substantial legislative record to run on. you won't see positive polling for joe biden until about a

month before 2024. so no words yet. >> you know what, there was a response but the biden campaign, if my directing and put that back up really quickly, because he's basically saying, look, i'm the guy. predictions more than a year. out take a look, it'll look a little different a year later. we're going to win in 2024. but putting our heads down in doing the work, not by friday nevada poll. so you guys seem to be in sync there. what about you, susan? nbc news, as you, know is hosting the next republican debate on wednesday. it comes as our new polls reveal in republican voters in iowa, what they're most interested in is a candidate who could beat president biden. can any of these candidates to better beating biden than trump? who, by the way, maybe a convicted felon before the 2024 election. >> oh yes. i think that there are a couple of candidates that could be joe biden come november, however, the electability argument that all the 60 you have up there were running on doesn't exist, because of the poll that we just saw from the new york

times and siena. donald trump is a viable candidate against joe biden, whether you want him to be or not, that's what it is. so the electability argument goes out the window. one of the thing about the poll, one thing that is significant, that is a problem, a special problem for the biden campaign, is polls like these tend to make it into the narrative. of what's happening. so this poll will be cited over and over, that's a problem. on the flip side, there is a little bit of anyone of biden and that. poll i think that will go away in a head to head, because when it's a generic democratic ex trump, the generic democrats wins by eight points. so that tells me that people really don't want trump as much as they just are not thrilled with biden. that comes from people of color and younger people. so those folks, i think, they will eventually come home to biden. >> interesting in terms of the poll. let's talk about tuesday, everyone.

election day is tuday. we're keeping a close eye on so of the key votes across this uny. there's ohio, where abortion access into marijuana legalization on the ballot. you've got the governs races in kentuckypliciti. they're not connect. virginia's holding school board and legislative elections. don, which ones are you fall away? what are you going to be looking for? i'm going to ask you all of that, if we have the time. don, you first. >> i'm looking it up and down the ballot in virginia, those a legislative races, they tend to be a lot closer to the ground and tainabout how people actually feel in their gut. they're leaning heavily on public safety. i'm seeing althe commercials. i'm worried about the abortion stuff in ohio, i thought we won that six month ago. i actually don't think marijuana is going to be a big issue, but i'm focused on the legislative races. >> okay, are you thinking about morning headlines, susan? on wednesday, after this and, what are you watching for? >> ohio, if they pass the amendment in ohio on abortion, that would be huge, jim good news for democrats. the other thing is, virginia, i'm looking at glenn youngkin's,

dot dot dot, depending on the one of the. loss because he is one that -- so those of the two i'm looking at. >> that's your. thing last to you, david. we have just a few seconds. what races are going to serve as the bellwether trying 24? >> alex, we remain in a close jobs election cycles, so i think that's what we are looking at, and with the democratic governor who should be at the states -- >> where racist perform differently. . thank you so much. i thank all of you for watching, that's gonna do it for me on this edition of alex witt reports. my friend yasmin vossoughian wishes you. out we're on ♪ ♪ ♪ time. there you go. >>