so close to the surface that it could come up in potentially minutes. so it could happen in the next hours. it could happen in the next few days. we just don't know. >> the people from this fishing village watching and hoping their town survives. there's still a lot of uncertainty today, even a small eruption could cause a lot of damage according to scientists in iceland. they say it won't create an issue cloud like the one that grounded flights back in 2010. >> that lava certainly concerning. kelly cobiella, thank you. that's going to do it for us today. thanks so much for joining us. we're back tomorrow, same time, same place. until then i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. josé diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning, it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific, i'm josé diaz-balart. right now in new york, former president donald trump's defense team begins its case in his civil fraud trial, and back on the stand, donald trump jr., the

defense's first witness. meanwhile, we'll tell you why the former president is asking for his federal 2020 election trial to be televised live. new this morning, republican senator tim scott abruptly drops out of the presidential race, even shocking his staffers. what he told them on a call right after. overseas, the world health organization says gaza's main hospital is no longer functioning with several babies dying and more still at risk. also, the u.s. military launches air strikes for the third time on locations in syria used by iran in retaliation for attacks on u.s. troops in the region. and back at home, there are only five days left for congress to come to a deal to avert a government shutdown. the new house speaker has a plan, but does he have the votes? and we begin this very busy hour inside a new york city courtroom where former president trump's eldest son, donald trump jr. has taken the stand again.

this time he's the first witness for the defense in the civil fraud trial that threatens the future of his family's business. trump and his two adult sons are accused of inflating the value of various trump properties to secure more favorable rates from banks and insurers. they deny any wrongdoing. joining us now, nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard live outside the courthouse and catherine christian, a former assistant district attorney at the manhattan d.a.'s office. vaughn, what have we heard so far this morning? >> reporter: so far don jr. has been taking questions from his own defense attorney. of course today is the first day of the defense to make their case. we anticipate over the next coming weeks dozens of witnesses to come to the stand before december 15th when the defense has indicated that it will close its case. for don jr., this is his second time taking the stand, and what he is trying to lay out there for the judge is, in his own

words, that the trump organization was run like a mom and pop shop, but on an international level, and that he relied on the work force around him, particularly accountants to provide them with the accurate assessment of the company's financial state in the value of its assets. and in the case of don jr. as well as his brother eric, another defendant, despite them signing the statements of financial condition, they through their own attorneys as well, have made the case that they were not involved in the minutia and they relied on the word of those accountants. the defense we should note, jose, has presented a list of 175 potential witnesses that they could call to the stand. of course we do not expect all 175 that the defense counsel in this case is going to have to methodically work through their best defense here and try to win over the judge in what could amount to the suspension of the business license for don jr. and

his brother eric's own company here in the state of new york. >> so why do you think the defense is bringing trump jr. to the witness stand as the first one? >> well, to pump up the trump brand, and also we must not forget that the attorney has to prove -- it's not a criminal so it's not beyond a reasonable doubt -- has to prove there's an intent to fraud, when they falsified business records allegedly and gave false information for insurance applications. did the trump organization and the defendants do this with the intent to defraud. this is what happened with ivanka when the defense attorneys were questioning her. it was her opportunity to talk about what an incredible organization this was. how no one was injured, the banks didn't complain. there were no victims here. the attorney general hasn't proved that the banks wouldn't have lent them money if they knew that their assets were not as high as they stated they

were, but that's not the point. what the attorney general has proven so far is that the banks probably, likely would have given them a higher interest rate. would not have given them such favorable terms for the banks and the insurance companies. so that's really the question. it's not whether or not the banks are the ones to complain. so that's going to be don jr., eric trump's job is to pump up the brand and talk about how no harm, no foul, and also still blame the accountants. >> and so vaughn, meanwhile, in the federal elections trial, trump has filed a motion backing media requests for live tv coverage of the trial. what do we know about that? >> reporter: right, this is a marked difference than what his own defense counsel had suggested to the judge that they were not going to take a position after media organizations filed a motion to allow in the election interference case for cameras to be inside the courtroom. of course the government is opposed to such a motion here,

and the government in response to donald trump's public declaration requested that donald trump's counsel actually go and put in writing donald trump's request in that in response, they would like to file a counter. take a listen to donald trump over the weekend state this out loud. >> they said, sir, do you want a trial with or without cameras. most people would say without. i say the opposite. i want this trying to be seen by everybody in the world. [ applause ] the prosecution wishes to continue this travesty and i want sunlight. that's a nice way of saying it. it's not pretty. i want sunlight. i want everything exposed to the public, and let's let the public decide because i want cameras in every inch of that courthouse.

>> reporter: of course, jose, it was just one week ago that donald trump was testifying inside of this courtroom and said inside of it with no cameras to note that he wishes the public would be hearing his own testimony. donald trump is one who is very much okay with the theatrics of investigations and indictments of him, and in the case of the federal election interference trial that is set to begin in march, donald trump publicly stating he wants cameras inside despite federal policy. long standing making the likelihood of this happening almost zero. but for donald trump it is now up to his counsel to actually put forward that motion on paper as the government said that they would like to respond because counter to long-standing tradition and federal policy of no cameras inside the federal courtroom for criminal trials. >> anybody can say anything they want about what they wish or

don't wish publicly. but the counsel has to in some way formally request that. but special counsel jack smith has urged the judge to dismiss these requests. what challenges could it create for the prosecution if the cameras are in the courtroom? and it's really unusual to have cameras in a courtroom in a federal case, isn't it? >> it is unusual, and i have to say i disagree with the special counsel. i think cameras should be there. the cynic in me says donald trump is only requesting that because the prosecutors said they didn't want it, and there is a federal rule that doesn't allow it. so judge chutkan would have to be very brave to say i know there's a federal rule, but i'm going to do it anyway. it was surprising, particularly prosecutors take no position. jurors are protected. the cameras would never show the jurors and the special counsel said they were concerned about jury security and intimidation of witnesses. so now the ball is in judge chutkan's course. will she overlook the rule that

says no cameras. the cynic in me believes donald trump really doesn't want cameras. >> and so catherine, has there ever been a case where a camera has been in a federal court case? >> not criminal federal trials. it's just a rule it's not allowed. and we've never had a former president be on trial before, so it really hasn't been this, you know, contentious, but you know, i think in a case like this instead of donald trump coming outside of the courthouse and fictionalizing what happened in the courtroom, it's important for the public to see actually what happened in the courtroom. >> vaughn hillyard and catherine christian, thank you very much. and now to a surprise announcement from a 2024 republican presidential candidate, south carolina senator tim scott told fox news last night he is dropping out of the race. >> when i go back to iowa, it

will not be as a presidential candidate. i am suspending my campaign. i think the voters who are the most remarkable people on the planet, have been really clear that they're telling me not now tim. >> and with us now, nbc news campaign who has covered tim scott's campaign. what comes next for senator scott now that he has suspended the campaign? >> right now he's focused on addressing a group of, quite frankly, stunned staffers, many of whom found out about this announcement just like us, watching that fox news interview. to put into perspective how much of a surprise this was, on sunday morning the scott campaign confirmed to us he'd be attending a large political gathering in iowa. by sunday night he was out of the race. this was something that came as a surprise to many on scott's team. right now we know he's back in charleston. he's planning on going to his campaign headquarters to, again,

address his staffers and answer some lingers questions regarding things like salary and south carolina -- health care and other logistic. many people on his team uprooted their lives and moved to south carolina. despite the fact that this was a surprise to many on the campaign, there was the writing on the wall. scott has shown in the six months he'd been in this race, he's struggled to gain momentum and gain real traction on the ground. last week he only barely made the republican debate, and there were concerns over his ability to make it to the next debate. even though the timing and format of this announcement was a surprise, the writing was on the wall. right now the immediate goal for the senator is addressing his supporters and staffers and making sure he's thanking them for their service and answering some questions that they have. >> nam dee aga knew, thank you very much. appreciate it. up next, a dire scene at gaza's hospital, some babies

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. 12 past the hour this morning, we are following more devastation out of gaza where the world health organization says the main hospital is no longer functioning after experiencing three days without power. this is the stark reality for newborn babies at the al-shifa hospital in gaza. these photos shared by the head of plastic surgery at the hospital showing babies who had to be removed from incubators. the hamas-run health ministry said three babies died over the weekend, while 36 others remain at risk. and here at a separate hospital in gaza, medical personnel say they used the light from cell phones to conduct medical procedures as they face power

outages. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu addressed the situation at hospitals in gaza in an interview on "meet the press". >> i think every civilian death, every dead baby is a tragedy. that tragedy should be placed squarely at the responsibility of hamas, that is keeping its military installations inside hospitals, its command posts inside hospitals. inside schools, inside u.n. facilities and so on. >> meanwhile, for the third time in the past month, the u.s. carried out strikes in eastern syria targeting iranian-affiliated forces. joining us now is nbc's raf sanchez in tel aviv and nbc's courtney kube at the pentagon. >> reporter: jose, israeli forces continue to operate in the heart of gaza city targeting what they say are underground hamas tunnels, command centers

looking for senior hamas officials, but they are operating literally blocks away at this point from the al-shifa hospital, the main hospital in the gaza strip, which as you said is no longer functional. that is according to the world health organization. jose, we are hearing just the most dire reports out of the al-shifa medical complex. they are saying that bodies are piled up in the hallways at the entrances of the hospital. there is no running water. there is no electricity and no one is a more urgent case right now than those dozens and dozens of prematurely born babies who had been up until this point inside of incubators, but with the electricity down, they are now being swaddled in blankets on a single bed in the surgery unit of the al-shifa hospital. doctors there doing everything they can to try to keep these newborns alive. manual respiration in some places, but the odds severely

stacked against them. i spoke earlier to dr. sherene ahbed, she was the head of neonatal care at the hospital until a couple of weeks ago. she said they literally do not have water to even make formula for these little babies, and she has no doubt, jose, that of them are going to die in the coming days if something is not done and if something is not done very, very quickly. the hospital is the biggest. it is the most important hospital in gaza, but there are a number of other nearby hospitals in gaza city also reporting major problems, fighting nearby, shortage of the most basic medical equipment. the israeli military says it tried to deliver some 300 liters of fuel to the al-shifa hospital over the weekend. they say it wasn't accepted by hospital officials. hospital officials are saying they need some 10,000 liters of fuel every day just to maintain

basic functions. jose. >> and courtney, meanwhile, what have you learned about what the u.s. struck in syria on sunday? >> yeah, so unlike the previous two strikes that the u.s. took in northeastern syria since all of this began in israel and the u.s. started facing more attacks against bases in iraq and syria, this is the third round of strikes. those previous ones were against facilities, ammunition and weapons facilities. this one, though, last night was against a safe house and a location, a training facility. so locations where there could have been iranian-backed militia members present. now, the u.s. generally takes these sorts of strikes in the middle of the night to minimize the number of people who might be there. but officials are acknowledging that there could have been some of these militia group members who were present at the time of those strikes and that there may have been casualties. that's what sort of sets this strike apart. now, there have been somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 attacks against u.s. bases in

iraq and syria since october 17th. and while the united states is really making a point of saying this has nothing to do with what's happening in israel, jose, we all realize things don't happen in a vacuum, and there had not been these sorts of attacks, we're talking about drones, mortars, rockets indirect fire. there hadn't been attacks like that occurring against u.s. bases in iraq and syria for most of this year. frankly, as far back as to march was the last time we saw a spate of attacks like this, and they have been consistent. we've been seeing them just about every single day since october 17th. some days we are seeing more than one, in fact, and according to u.s. officials they do believe there have even been additional attack since these strikes last night. while that -- why is that so significant, jose, is because the whole purpose of these air strikes is to try to deter these militia groups from carrying out strikes and attacks against u.s. bases in the future, and the message here is not just to the militia members. in fact, u.s. officials are very

specifically calling on iran who trains, supports, funds these groups. they're calling on iran to tell these groups to stop these attacks. they are very concerned if one of these attacks is successful, it could threaten, it could widen out this conflict in israel and widen into a larger regional war. >> so far it hasn't been effective. they still continue to get attacked. the united states more than 5-0, 50 attacks. >> yeah, exactly. so far they haven't been effective with major damage to infrastructure or casualties. there have been more than 50 u.s. service members with minor injuries in all of these attacks. but the reality is the biggest concern, according to defense officials is that if there is an attack that kills americans that it will cause this conflict to widen out into the region. that's why they're really calling on iran who they believe has enough sway over these groups to get them to stop.

they're calling on iran to tell the groups to stop, jose. >> and courtney, you're also following a tragic accident that clmed the lives of five u.s. service members in the mediterranean. >> this was a helicopter that crashed late friday night not too far from cypress in the eastern med train. mediterranean. the u.s. was quiet about this in the early hours, not even identifying the aircraft. that's because these are individuals who were assigned to a special operations unit, the 160th. they are a very small community, and because of that, once it became clear what the aircraft was, it narrows down the group of people who may have been involved here. they wanted to wait until their families were notified before it became public. they were part of a training mission. they were working on their refueling in the air, but the reality is the pentagon in the last several weeks has sent forward some of their most elite u.s. military special operators

to cypress and to the region to be in the area ithe event that there needs to be a large scale evacuation. now, at this point military officials are telling us, in fact, it was a refueling mission. some of these individuals could have been sent forward to be ready if they were called forth for another mission in the region, jose. >> courtney and raf, thank you very much. before we go, if you're just listening to us on radio, if we could puthe five people that lost their lives representing the united states, and i just want to read you their names because they matter. stephen dwyer, shane barnes, chief warrant officer, staff sergeant tanner grone, sergeant andrew southard, sergeant cade wolfe. >> raf sanchez and courtney kube, thank you very much. joining us now is retired lieutenant general ben hodges, commanding general for the

united states army europe and a senior adviser at human rights. thank you for being with us this morning. prime minister netanyahu was pressed on the top human rights official saying that israel was inflicting collective punishment on gaza. here's part of his response. listen to this. >> no, we're deliberately doing everything in our power to target the terrorists and the civilians as happens in every legitimate war, are sometimes what are called collateral damage. that's a laundered way of saying unintended casualties. >> general, how do you judge the military campaign so far? have they crossed the line into causing just too many civilians' deaths? >> jose, if i may say first, thank you for the way you named those five soldiers who were lost in that training accident. it was very thoughtful of you. so you know, the israeli defense force has launched an operation

in a very methodical way. i think they did this in order to minimize their own casualties because it obviously is extremely difficult. but also it gave them -- it puts them in a position where they could hold back on some of the destructive effects that they are putting into gaza city. so versus just a drive into the gaza city, that would have generated a lot more damage. i think they have tried it from the point of operational design, and of course hamas knows that the whole world is watching, and they know that the israelis were going to react the way that they have, and there's a reason they continue to use hospitals and other places as a shield. having said all that, two things where i am critical of the israeli approach. number one, the mission given by the prime minister is only destroy hamas.

you cannot destroy an insurgency or a terrorist organization without addressing the root causes, and so the way the israelis are doing this is focused entirely on destruction of hamas. it doesn't do anything -- you don't hear them talking about in state. how are we going to end up? how do we get to a peaceful coexistence with our arab neighbors. the way they're going about it is frankly going to be very, very difficult to do that. and then secondly, i put myself in the shoes of an israeli soldier. how do i do this knowing that i've got the world looking over one shoulder, lawyers, israeli military lawyers looking over my other shoulder. i've got hamas fighters are popping up out of nowhere to kill me from behind, and i've got an enemy that's hiding inside of a hospital. this is an incredibly difficult task for the israeli soldiers. >> indeed it is. and you know, the phase that you were talking about about what happens after you do the destroy hamas segment is, for example,

the prime minister also threw cold water on the idea of having the palestinian authority returning to control in gaza post-war. what are the potential alternatives to who could lead gaza coming out of the war. would it take a potts dam 2023? >> so i think the administration has been clear that it cannot be israel that oversees gaza once this is over. the administration policy, which is one i think, which is the right policy is getting towards a two-state solution, a palestinian state and an israeli state where both have the right to exist. it's hard to imagine israel being able to administer gaza in the aftermath, and even though i think that's what prime minister netanyahu has said he intends to do. so this is going to take an incredible diplomatic effort by the united states and other

countries to come up with a solution that is acceptable to all. i think, you know, the palestinian authority has not shown itself to be a reliable governing body either, so i don't know the solution, but it certainly can't be israeli tanks staying there, and i don't think the israelis want to have to stay there either. >> meanwhile, the u.s. has carried out three strikes against iranian linked targets in eastern syria over just the last month. how do you read this? >> so the biggest beneficiary of all of this, of course, is russia. the kremlin who is the closest ally to iran, they've been working together now for a long time. the kremlin benefits from this because all of us are talking about israel and hamas and nobody is talking about israel -- or i'm sorry, ukraine anymore, and even some resources are being diverted from ukraine towards israel. so the russians are the biggest beneficiary. the next biggest beneficiary, of

course, is iran because this has put the brakes on any progress towards implementation of the abraham accord, which is exactly what iran wanted is to avoid israel and arab countries coming closer together. and so it's hard to imagine that iran wants to get into a conflict, direct conflict with the united states. i think what courtney said is true. they're going to have to rein in these different groups that are launching weapons at u.s. facilities in syria who are there to fight isis. they're not doing anything associated with israel or hamas. i'm impressed with the restraint shown thus far by our department of defense. but if there is a strike where u.s. troops get killed, then i think we're going to see a much, much stronger response. >> lieutenant general ben hodges, thank you so much for being with us this morning. appreciate it. and now to breaking news concerning former president trump's family. nbc news has learned that donald

trump's oldest sister marianne trump barry has died. nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard is with us. what more do we know? >> reporter: at the age of 86, marianne trump barry has passed away. she was notably the former federal judge, jose, who stepped down from her position in 2019. she was serving on the appellate court out of new jersey at the time that she stepped down in 2019, already well in her 80s at that point. she is one of four trump siblings. there's only one sibling of donald trump's who now remains. his brother robert passed away in 2020. but for marianne trump barry, she was first appointed to the bench in new jersey during the reagan administration before moving to the appellate court by bill clinton. of course for everybody in the trump family, there's a roller coaster through the decades of

the relationship with the now former president donald trump, her brother. back in 2020 there was recordings that were released by mary trump, who is the niece of both maryanne and donald. at the time the audio recordings were of maryanne speaking about her brother using the words cruel to describe him and somebody that had no principles. they had previously had a close relationship, donald and maryanne. donald, when he was running for president back in 2016 had even suggested that she would make a good u.s. supreme court justice. he later said that he was only joking when he did begin his presidency in 2017, she stepped down and became inactive in february of 2017, but this was all coinciing at the same time that a judicial investigation began into her as an extension of "the new york times" investigation by "new york

times" reporter suzanne craig that led to a greater focus on donald trump as well as his other siblings, and the properties and the alleged tax fraud that they had engaged in when they took over the properties and the other assets from their father, fred trump, who first started the trump o. the trump tycoon that was here in new york. here at the age of 86, maryanne trump barry has passed, away. just one of sibling of trump remains. we are trying to track down where donald trump is here at this time. after losing ivana trump last year, this has been for the last several years has been a time that donald trump has lost several close family members. >> vaughn hillyard in new york, thank you very much. we're also following more breaking news. why a secret service agent assigned to protect one of president biden's granddaughters had to fire his weapon last night. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc arb

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midnight last night as we understand it, from the secret service. there was an incident where several secret service agents saw they say possibly three people breaking a window on a government vehicle. we understand that this was an unmarked, unoccupied government vehicle that was parked in the georgetown neighborhood here in d.c., and sometime during that encounter, one of thoses fired their service weapon. we do not believe -- the secret service does not believe anybody was struck by that buet. the latest information we have from the agency is that those possibly three people got into a red vehicle, and then took off. it's important to note too here, jose, that the secret service says there was no threat to any protectees. we believe these agents were assigned to the president's granddaughter, naomi biden, 29 years old who lives here in d.c. as well. at this point there's no indication that she was even aware this was happening.

these would have been agencies who likely were outside of her home and this vehicle as we noted would have been unmarked, so you're seeing a vehicle from the secret service police, which is a separate division of the secret service, if you will. the secret service agents are people who protect individuals, versus the police who protect more facilities here in d.c., and so this at this point is an incident that is under investigation by the secret service and the d.c. police department. jose. >> yeah, i mean, the fact that a weapon would be discharged in something like that does, of course, raise a lot of questions. aaron gilchrist, thank you so very much. good to see you. i want to get back to our top story this morning, donald trump jr. testifying again today in his father's $250 million civil fraud trial. i want to bring in msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin who's been inside the courtroom all morning. what's happened so far? >> reporter: jose, i'm sitting here freezing outside 60 center street, and this morning donald trump jr. has largely been giving us a tour of the trump

real estate empire via pictures and his own testimony. at times it's felt like a trump organization infomercial has he has done everything from recall the history of the trump organization from fred trump's own childhood through his father's contributions, beginning with his restoration of or building of what is now the hyatt at grand central, and everything in between including mar-a-lago and seven springs. the constant theme is that donald trump is a creator and a visionary who uses buildings as his canvas to do his painting, and that without appreciating donald trump's contributions to american real estate and his various innovations, the judge couldn't possibly make a decision that would bar him from forever doing business in new york and impose other similarly draconian measures. the judge has been fairly indulgent this morning allowing lots of lines of testimony and lengthy answers from donald trump jr., to which the attorney

general's office has objected. i don't think that this will change the result, but it's been an interesting historical tour, almost sometimes feels like you're listening to a documentary and donald trump jr. is very proud of his family's history. >> ask he's expected to be on the stand all throughout the remainder of the day? >> reporter: he is expected to be on the stand throughout the remainder of the day. the one hiccup is that during the break ask and while he was on the stand earlier this morning, we've learned that his aunt, former federal judge maryanne trump barry passed away this morning. whether or not the trump team will say that they need a break in the proceedings either today or beyond that into this week because of judge barry's passing remains to be seen. i don't believe donald trump jr. knew that his aunt had passed away. as of the break he will likely learn that as i did during this time and be interesting to see what his demeanor and his mood is like when he comes back. he's been very jovial so far and

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43 past the hour, lawmakers return to work on capitol hill with just five days left until a potential federal government shutdown. over the weekend, new house speaker mike johnson unveiled a plan that would fund part of the government until the middle of january and the rest through early february. joining us now to talk more about this, nbc news capitol hill correspondent, ali vitali. good morning, it's great seeing you. what's this two-pronged approach and is there any possibility that any of this could get done before friday? >> reporter: well, look, there's a widely held belief that the government is not going to shut down. the question is, as it often is before these deadlines how congress actually averts it. at this point what we're watching, the newly minted speaker mike johnson try to do is a little bit of what we've seen in the past, which is continuing to fund government through a certain date. in this case, you're right to point out that it's through january and into february, and the reason it's split in two is because he's trying to do something that's kind of the

same, same, but different than what his predecessors have done, which is fund the government, but not do so in sweeping continuing resolution fashion. not just kicking the can down the road in full. instead, acknowledging all of the different parts of his conference that are averse to what we call omnibus spending bills, so all of these different funding bills jammed together into one. what johnson is doing here is splitting them up into two, trying to make them mini buses if you will. they're calling this a ladered continuing resolution. really all that is is a two-step approach to continuing to fund the government that would allow them to get past the holidays, allow them to have more time to keep working on different government funding packages and try to do this in a way that doesn't overly upset conservatives within the house republican conference. they're still upset, though. it's not clear that all republicans will get behind this. but at the end of the day, not all republicans have to, jose because democrats could come in and vote for it anyway. >> so wait, ali, if they do

these baby crs essentially, does that mean that only part of the government would stay open and then part of the government would shut down. is that what we're talking san antonio. >> let's play out the worst-case scenario. i'm going to steal baby crs. that's a cuter way of saying this convoluted idea. the worst-case scenario is that they pass this package now. it avoids a government shutdown. then you come to january, and let's say they don't avoid that shutdown. then a few sectors of the government would shut down and then they would move to february and the rest of the government in theory would shut down. they're sectioning it up and trying to carve it up. you could end up in a scenario where different parts of the government shut down at different times, it could get really confusing. >> it's great to see you, appreciate that. >> you too. up next, we'll talk to an israeli peace activist whose parents were killed in the october 7th hamas terrorist

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people march in support of a cease fire. joining us now is maz enon, a peace activist, his father and mother were killed by hamas during their terrorist attack last month. thank you for being with us. these are such difficult times for you and so many others, and i want to just express my solidarity to you. tell us about your parents. what happened to them? >> thank you, jose. so my parents were among the first victims on october the 7th. and my parentparents, even thou, they were in the prime of their life and they educated us. my sisters and younger brother, to judge each person by his action. not by his race. not by his color. not nationality or religion. and so this is exactly what we are doing now as we are grieving

and mourning their terrible deaths and death of so many people from our communities, our friends. and what we are doing now and with many partners, israelis and palestinian, we are building a new hope. for a better future. and this is exactly what our politicians are not doing. they are in the cycle of this and they're counting the numbers of both pro palestinian and pro israel, but we many palestinian believe in a shared society. a shared life between the jordan river. a shared life that will be based on quality, on justice, and unity. so this is why i'm doing. >> how do you build a future, a better future, when the present is so complicated?

>> this is what is so difficult to do now. but it's, this is what we must do. as the war is continuing and there so many casualties and innocent people both in israel and gaza, it's where the peace activists, the believers who believe in a better future must act. so there are many organizations such as the family forum for peace, join many organizations, israel and palestinian, are building the future while our politician are ruining our days and nights now. >> you know, i thank you so much for being with us this morning. very much appreciate your time. >> thank you. thank you. >> up next, the biden campaign calls it horrifying. new reporting on former donald trump's immigration plans if he

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we are learning more about what donald trump plans to do on immigration if he were to be elected next year. "the new york times" reports his plans include sweeping raids on undocumented immigrants, the mass deportation of the millions of people who have come to the u.s. in the past few years. with us now to talk more about this, victoria, dean of the clinton school of public service at the university of arkansas and brendan buck, former top aide to speakers boehner and ryan. also an msnbc political analyst. brendan, this sounds extreme, but there is a group of people who would support this. who is this plan geared toward? >> well, it's obviously geared

to trump's fiercest supporters. the reality is though i think the ability for him to execute these things is a bit mixed. obviously we know that the president is going to be somewhat, or former president, would be restrained. there were a lot of people, you can question how successful they were, there were a lot of people his first term who were trying to hold back his worst impulses on this stuff. we can assume they'll be gone. we should take this very seriously. however, there are limitations. congress would need to go along with these things and a lot of the stuff the former president did was previously stopped by courts. now, the question for next term will be whether he ignores those things and whether his administration will ignore court actions. that's the scary part. where we get into this extralegal territory where he just ignores what courts say. >> i want to let all of what you

said sink in to people because we're talking about ignoring judicial, you know, mandates and so much more. victoria, it seems like trump in the past has made some inroads with latino voters. how is this? >> this is very much about locking down the base. i mean, i think back to 2015 when donald trump first came on the scene as a presidential candidate and it was immigration that launched him forward. he knows that it's an oldie but a goody in in terms of supporting the latino vote, we'll have to see, jose, but he is pretty good at conpartmentalizing and micro targeting different segments. on the border that are frustrated with the crisis that's been happening, we'll see if he can bring that in a way he

tries to connect again. but right now, the message is this is red meat for the base and the campaign. he's playing it up. >> it's just striking when you see the kinds of things they're talking about trying to implement with no control or oversight. victoria, "the new york times" also writes about trump's plans, quote, trump wants to revive his first term border ps certain muslim minority nion and refusing alu claims. that would be title 42, right? what is this in any way relevant to today? >> i think at the core, jose, aside from the anti immigration platform he has always espoused, is an isolation he is putting forward. in turning away from ukraine, the middle east, in turning away

from our border neighbors and our international obligations, this really at its core is old school isolationism and something that seems to be playing quite well with his base, which is frightening in addition to the immigration question. but this is something that is going to be key to his campaign in this next year. >> victoria and brendan, thank you so much for being with us this morning. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can always reach me on social media. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. and right now on "andrea mitchell reports," israel pushes ahead on the ground in gaza, attacking at an around hospitals including horrific images from the largest hospital. outrage around the world. and israel's response from the prime minister on