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it is good to be back with you in this second hour of "chris jansing reports." we start with that breaking news out of fulton county, georgia, a major admission from the lawyer for one of donald trump's codefendants in that sweeping rico case. nbc's blayne alexander is following that. for folks who weren't here, setting the stage, fani willis, the d.a. went to the judge after some videos were linked of people who had turned evidence and said, i need a protective order. but we didn't know who might have leaked those videos. what just happened in court? >> reporter: well, we now know at least one of the people who leaked the videos. it was an attorney for one of the 15 remains codefendants. jonathan miller, he represents misty hanson, one of the 15 codefendants, just said during this open hearing, during this
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virtual hearing in open court that he did leak the videos to at least one media outlet, and so he kind of gave a small preamble said that in order to make sure he can sleep at night, and make sure everybody can kind of rest easy knowing what happened, he said, he did in fact leaked him. the judge asked why he decided to do that. he said that two of the defendants, the people who pled guilty, had to do with his client, and actually helped hi client, and he basically said that he believed the public had a right to know. >>. >> blayne, let me interrupt you if i can. we have the tape of the exact moment, jonathan miller, who is the lawyer for one of the codefendants in this case, let me play it, and we'll pick it up on the other side. >> i can go to sleep well tonight, judge. i did release those videos to one outlet, and in all candor, i need the court to know that. >> so i guess the question is
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now what? >> reporter: well, really, that kind of goes forward, and he said this almost in the same breath, he said he disagreed with the need for this protective order. we kind of heard the defense attorneys going one by one, essentially saying they disagree. some people saying they don't believe there is a need for this as the state was arguing to have a protective order. but he was pretty strong in saying he believed the public had a right to know, that he wanted to put this information out, and the judge said he was going to consider this as he goes forward and addresses his own order on the motions. this is something that is pretty stunning. i think when we look at the past 24 hours, the fact that these videos leaked in the first place, knowing that they were made available only to, of course, the d.a.'s team, and then the defense attorneys, the 15 defense attorneys and their clients, you know, certainly with the d.a. strongly denying that it was xi, it was down to the defense attorneys, but a number of legal experts that i heard from over the past 24 hours, even other reporters
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covering this, talking about, you know, just the fact that a lawyer possibly leaked this is highly unprecedented. certainly not something you typically see when you're talking about a criminal defense case. so, looking at the fact that he admitted to this in open court, i think it's important to find out he says he leaked it to one media outlet. there were several outlets that had these videos. we don't know if he leaked all four, several of them, but that also begs the question, were there other people who released the videos as well. was there another source for how this came out? i think all of it underscores the d.a.'s argument that there needs to be a protective order, so nothing is released in the future. >> we are waiting for judge scott mcafee to make that determination. thank you, blayne alexander, come back when we hear something. lots of breaking news at this minute. any moment now, we're going to see the big sit down. you see the stage being set for that between president biden and china's xi jinping. face-to-face for the first time in a year with hopes that amped
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up diplomacy will lower sky high tensions. but the two leaders will also have to navigate several contentious issues, including china's dispute with taiwan, the theft of u.s. technology. it's kind of a real world reality check that despite strained relations over iran, russia, technology theft, the world's two global superpowers need to find a way forward. for the u.s., establishing military-to-military relations and getting china to stem the flow of fentanyl to the u.s. for china, the summit can be seen as a win, an opportunity to travel to the u.s. a meet with the president. there's also a very pragmatic tun, a chance for xi to win new american investments in china. the white house has been managing expectations for this summit, which is expected to last an estimated three or four hours.
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i want to bring back nbc's monica alba in san francisco. andrea mitchell joins me from washington. rear admiral, james stavridis, allied commander and msnbc chief international analyst, and former cia analyst, sue mi terry is with me in studio. what we're looking as as the in washington, two political ay, parties that agree on almost nothing are unid in their depictions of china as a geopolitical rival and mortal threat to middle class sy. in beijing, leaders accuse the united states of plotting to deny china's rightful place as a superpower. what can these two men actually accomplish in this kind of environment, andrea? >> they can talk. they can try to reestablish communications, certainly military-to-military communications which have not been existing because china cut them off since last september in
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the after math of speaker pelosi's visit then speaker pelosi's visit to taiwan. china cut off all communications between our defense and their defense, and our pentagon, our joint chief's chairmen. that had to be established. the flow of fentanyl, illegal fentanyl from china, which is a threat coming from mexico to the southern boarder and coming to the u.s. so those are two critical points that they're trying to establish. better economic relations, communications that were improved with janet yellen's visit with gina raimondo, the commerce secretary's visit. certainly in the aftermath of the china balloon incident which was exacerbated by the failure of military-to-military communications which could have resolved it sooner and avoid a shutdown, it was even worsening of the talks. secretary blinken is cancelled or said he was rescheduling his
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visit. we were told last february that the president would soon be talking on the phone with xi jinping, and that conversation never happened. this will be their first chance to communicate, man to man, face to face, and get back to what both sides say they wanted, a more predictable relationship between the two superpowers. >> a lot of americans feel they know foreign leaders and certainly in an adversarial position, vladimir putin, much has been said about him, but tell us about president xi. what should americans know as the president heads into this high stakes meeting? >> well, i think president xi jinping is very interested in wanting to, you know, portray himself as a global leader that can provide stability. this is why what andrea was talking about, providing a baseline of stability is very important. president xi jinping is going through unprecedented number of troubles in china right now. we earlier talked about china's economy, the state that it is in right now, right, with youth unemployment, ageing population.
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low fertility rate. there's a lot of structural problems, economic problems, and so he needs to really in his popularity or support from the public is very low. i think he needs to project himself, he wants to be respected. i think that's key. with president biden, he wants to be treated, you know, respected as a partner. so i think that's very important for president xi jinping right now to project himself as a world leader that can provide stability to this very important relationship for china. >> and as we wait for this moment that's going to be watched around the world, admiral, let's talk about the military issues. in the past couple of years, the chinese military has conducted more than 180 risky intercepts against u.s. surveillance aircraft in the pacific. that's more than the entire previous decade. what are they doing? what's the conversation around that going to be like? >> i think that's going to actually be a productive
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conversation, chris. and look, i spent half my career in the pacific. i know the chinese navy extremely well. they are, like us, they're generally pretty professional. they have speck where they launch around taiwan. they can create real difficult situations, and they have been doing a fair amount of that of late. but if these two leaders can establish that military-to-military contact, where secretary of defense lloyd austin can pick up the phone and call a counter part, that will give us a bit of a safety net. because we need to remember, chris, flying around in those jets up there, you know, that's not tony blinken in a hornet, in an fa-18. that's goose and maverick and their chinese equivalents. so the chances of a miscalculation are not
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insignificant, if two airplanes have a close encounter, if two ships kind of tap each other out there, you really want both sides to be able to pick up the phone and defuse that situation. i think that's in the interest of both sides. i think you will see a productive and a pretty concrete deliverable in that regard here in hopefully a day or so. >> obviously, admiral, the chinese would also like the u.s. to stay out of taiwan, the push for independence. how does that play into these larger conversations, and frankly, what you just talked about, which is to avoid any kind of a possible military confrontation going forward? >> let's start with something that i believe, which is it's unlikely that xi jinping is going to launch a sudden attack at taiwan. i don't think for the next five to ten years at an absolute minimum. lots of things could change that. could be some spiking tensions
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in the wake of the election they have in january. but as a general proposition, as president xi is watching ukraine, he's probably saying to himself, hmm, i really don't want to create that kind of situation, the sort of debacle that putin has created for russia. so i think there's some speed breaks on president xi right now, as he watches ukraine. another good reason, by the way, for the u.s. and the west to continue to support ukraine. but here is the key item. the u.s. and china are going to have to agree to disagree about ownership of the south china sea. china claims this vast body of water, territorial seas, the u.s. and international community are not going to acquiesce on that. the one china policy will maintain stability over taiwan. the one to watch and the one i'm
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concerned about is the south china sea where the u.s. and china are kind of bumping up against each other. that's why we need this military-to-military contact so we can diffuse those situations, chris. >> andrea, let me ask you to take us inside that room when those two men go inside that room. you have so much experience covering so many administrations, and so many high-stakes meetings like this. we talked about president xi, what he wants to accomplish, what he has to gain here domestically in china. this is a president who is under a lot of pressure on foreign policy, but also has extensive foreign policy experience, who has been in the room for these high stakes meetings. what's it like in there from are the minutiae of we've not heard president xi speak english, so this is an interpreter situation, to the kind of
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stance, the kind of personality that you think president biden brings to this? >> well, president biden is chatty, and he is very well versed in the issues. but what he found i am told by people who were in the room for the five hours that they talked last in bali, face to face was that president xi was more ideological, lecturing and less interested in engaging on where they could improve each other's economy jointly, not be rivals or competitors but actually do things that were better on the economy, on climate, on shared issues. and that instead of that, how previous leaders had been, looking to find ways to work together. he was not interested in that as much, and rather giving a lecture. it was not a great meeting. that's a very low bar. they're going to want it to be better than that. they're going to want to see whether there are areas they can
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work together, especially on climate, on maybe, as i said, pressuring iran to try to restrain iran from widening the war in the middle east. because the war in the middle east with restrictions on oil movement through the gulf and through the narrow passages in that area isn't good for anyone's economy, and certainly not for the super powers. >> we are expecting the arrival of president xi jinping in china in just the next minute or two. as we wait for that, because like andrea, admiral, you have so much experience, over decades of being very close to these kinds of meetings, look, they're always highly choreographed. the conversations happen, what are the chances that something unexpected happens? and take us inside that meeting, some of your insights into what we might expect that we'll never
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see? >> i was part of the high level summits with nato allies, and also at times with the russian side, high level afghani delegations, and here i think president biden, his normal approach, exactly as andrea tells us, is to try and establish that personal relationship. i think with president xi, that's going to be very difficult. there's a cultural disconnect there, chinese have a tendency to want to be formal in a meeting, to have everything scripted, as you say, and then secondly, there's kind of a personality mismatch there in a lot of ways. you have this american and reserved, dignified, very senior chinese leader. i think the odds of, you know, a personal kind of breakthrough, the one you always think of is reagan and gorbachev, establishing that extraordinary, personal relationship, that really helped unwind the cold war. chris, i wish i could say that's
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what we might have. i think that's highly unlikely. >> andrea, you and i have both covered many of these kinds of events, and see joe biden now coming out of this. it's a public place. it's gardens. it's obviously a house. but he's coming out to meet xi. the importance of this picture, andrea, and just the fact that we are going to see these two men together? >> it's so important. and i was thinking about reagan and gorbachev, i was there in 1985, their first meeting. you see the door opening, and first an aide in security, and now president xi will be sitting in the backseat. there he is. >> let's watch. >> both of them without coats. it's in california. the handshake. >> these are all of the important signals.
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>> reporter: what's your message to china today? >> and so two opportunities, andrea, for that moment, for the handshakes. i don't think you can underestimate the pictures that will be on the front pages of newspapers that will lead newscasts all around the country, and i see, admiral, that you are nodding. the old saying is, you know, a picture is worth a thousand words, but again, the importance just that these two men are going to be in a room together, how big of a diplomatic step forward is that? >> oh, i think it's crucial, and frankly, you know, chris, so much of life is compared to
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what? and compare where we were a year ago, american cabinet level ministers were disinvited to come to china. the spy balloon incident seized the united states of america. we had ships bumping up against each other in the south china sea. you know, none of those underlying problems have gone away. but on the other hand, here we have the leaders of the two biggest economies in the world. let's point that out. there's a huge economic piece here. this is almost half of the world's gross domestic product in that handshake. and that is very important to maintain for the global economy. and i think you're going to see markets respond quite positively to what you're going to find as we get through the meeting and get to tomorrow, chris. >> and we saw some of the pictures there inside that room where the meeting will take place. the president shaking hands with the secretary of state.
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shaking hands with jake sullivan, who of course is the national security affairs assistant to the president. monica, talk to us about what you're seeing and the importance of the entourage, the carefully chosen entourage that the president has with him right now? >> reporter: absolutely, chris, and even treasury secretary yellen was one of the people who greeted president xi when he landed here in san francisco yesterday. very much a welcome from the biden administration, and of course we know that there had been such important diplomatic steps that had to take place to get to this moment, much of which was done by secretary yellen, by secretary blinken, by secretary raimondo. by the national security adviser. all of them in intensive discussions with their counter parts over the course of the last couple of months to try to get to the possibility of this. but it really did strike me as we saw president biden and president xi shake hands there
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that these two men do have a substantial relationship dating back to when it was then vice president biden who was meeting with xi jinping, and that happened many times over the course of the obama administration, back in 2011, through the years, and up to 2017, just days before the trump administration took over, the two leaders met in davos switzerland. ranging through all of that time, all of the issues, there's really a historical context and backdrop to their relationship, and what these two leaders have navigated. as president, joe biden likes to talk about the fact that he believes his time spent with xi jinping is one of the most of any of the world leaders he has had contact with over the years. that is what the two men are bringing to this even though of course the two countries have had such major issues in the last year, and there's no shortage of challenges that they're going to discuss and the
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conversations will be candid, they will be frank. there is this somewhat familiarity between the two of them that we know for certain the president from his top aides will make a point of including in that, and that is sort of the way that he can try to bring his personality into this, when he is talking about some of these thornier issues. he is raising something like the spy balloon and the espionage and the aspects of that that the u.s. would like china to stop doing and interfering in, potentially. but then you also have all of these close calls from a military perspective that both sides, they're hoping, will agree is something that shouldn't continue from the communication standpoint. this today is really about presenting this issue of a whole of government approach to the ways that the two can work together on some issues and areas of cooperation, but also about sending the signal of strength because the u.s. is the one hosting this meeting because it's happening on the sidelines of apec, though of course as you
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saw there, from those grand images, taking place on a historic estate, that was all a part of the calculation, a part of the intensive stage craft that went into planning this meeting from the seating arrangements to the flowers that are in that room, to any potential meal or anything that the counter parts are going to share in the coming hours. all of that was negotiated detail by detail, and this is something where chinese officials wanted to know every single camera angle that president xi was going to be captured on over the course of the next few hours. almost like if you were thinking about this as a movie, a shot-by-shot display of what would be seen back home in china on state-run television. those images, the optics of all of that, even the theatrics of some of this is more important to the chinese in some ways than the substance of the meeting. but absolutely president biden has a long list, an agenda here that he wants to get through, that he's hoping there will be
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some outcomes on areas of cooperation on fentanyl, establishing things on guardrails, like artificial intelligence, and the key is returning to this baseline of diplomatic and military communication that is something that they would like to see going forward. and it is critical, also, to president biden trying to project this ability to meet face-to-face with an incredible superpower that has its challenges with the united states but that he wants to appear strong on heading into this key election year in 2024 as well, chris. >> sue, let's get back to the idea of what is seen back home in china, and what xi wants to project down to the camera angles as she said. president biden clearly under a certain kind of pressure. he has an election coming up. he has polls he has to worry about. as mentioned, he has a lot going on on his foreign policy plate. oh, here we are. this is our first view of the all the men around the table. talk about the pressure on xi,
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which is very different. not an election coming up. essentially a president for life. independent, maybe more largely on pictures than deep analysis for the people back home. >> it's absolutely true. we talked about optics. we talked about symbolism. we talked about theatrics. i also helped prepare many of these summits. every detail -- >> i'm going to interrupt you for one second. we can hear the president. >> discuss this treaty forward, and be frank, and i have always appreciated it. mr. president, we have known each other for a long time. we haven't always agreed, which is not a surprise to anyone. our meetings have been candid, straightforward and useful. i have never doubted what you told me in your candid way you speak. i value your conversation because i think it's paramount that you and i understand each other clearly, leader to leader. with no misconceptions or
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miscommunication. we have to ensure that competition does not veer into conflict, and we have to manage it responsibly, the competition. that's what united states wants and what we intend to do. i also believe it's what the world wants from both of us, candid exchange. we also have a responsibility to our people and the world to work together when we see it in our interests to do so. and a critical global challenge that we face from climate change to narcotics, to artificial intelligence demand our joint efforts. so i look forward to beginning this discussion, and i welcome you, and the floor is yours, mr. president. and again, welcome back. welcom. >> translator: mr. president,
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good morning. coming here, i thought of -- i think of your trip to china when i was the vice president of china. we had a meeting. it was 12 years ago. i still remember our interactions very vividly. and it always gives me a lot of thoughts. last time we met in bali you said it was a year and a day ago. a lot has happened since then. the world has emerged from the covid pandemic. but it is still under tremendous impacts. the global economy is recovering but its momentum remains sluggish. industrial and supply chains are still under the threat of interruption and protectionism
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is rising. all these are grave problems. the china-u.s. relationship which is the most important bilateral relationship in the world should be perceived and envisioned in a broad context of the accelerating global transformations unseen in a century. should develop in a way that fulfills our responsibility for human progress. china-u.s. relationship has never been smooth sailing over the past 50 years or more, and it always faces problems of one kind or another, yet it has kept moving forward amid twists and turns. two large countries, china and the united states turning their back on each other is not an option. it is unrealistic for one side to remodel the other and conflict and confrontation has unbearable consequences for both sides. i'm still of the view that major country competition is not the
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prevailing trend of current times and cannot solve the problems facing china and the united states, all the world at large. planet earth is big enough for the two countries to succeed. one country's success is an opportunity for the other. it is an objective fact that china and the united states are different in history, culture, social system, and development path. however, as long as they respect each other, coexist in peace and pursue corporation, they will be fully capable of rising above differences and find the right way for the two major countries to get along with each other. if in the promising future of the bilateral relationship. mr. president, you and i, we are at the helm of china-u.s. relations, which heavy responsibilities for the two people, for the world, for history. i look forward to having an
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in-depth exchange of views, and reach now understandings with you on strategic and overarching issues critical to the direction of china-u.s. relations and on major issues affecting world peace and development. i wish to thank you for your thoughtful arrangements for our meeting today and for our participation at the apec meeting. thank you. >> heading out that way, guys. u.
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>> well, we heard them saying to the press, you're heading out that way, guys, known as the wranglers who are allowing, essentially, these two world leaders to get down to business after making comments that were both diplomatic, and diplomatically pointed on the part of president biden, offering the welcome to president xi, but also saying he wants conversations that are going to be candid, straightforward, and useful. and you and i must have no misconceptions, he told president xi who said turning our backs on each other is not an option. it could have unbearable consequences. but he also said, and sue, i thought this was very much to the point of what he wants to do here. he said the planet is big enough for these two countries to
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succeed. he very much wants to be seen as a superpower on the level of the united states. >> absolutely, this is what i was saying earlier, that he wants his respect. they are two core leaders of the world. i thought it was a really good start. every part of that was choreographed and planned. every detail was already planned, but i think the important thing here really is that they are sitting down and meeting. this is what's significant. we're not going to have a whole lot -- there's going to be some minor agreements, you know, on fentanyl and ai, and mill-to-mill resumption of mill-to-mill hot line. all of that is important, but we're not going to have a reset of the relationship, but we're putting a pause button on this strain that we have been seeing. i think it's a good start. president biden is, you know, kind of wants to establish rapport and this is not xi jinping's style. he's very serious. there's not going to be a warm
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and cozy rapport. they're going to talk candidly, as they said, on a whole host of issues. a number of challenges facing the u.s. and china, so i think this is a very good start, and again, important symbolism here is that they are sitting down and talking to each other. >> and, andrea, a reminder from the president of china that these two men have a history, including as vice presidents 12 years ago. what is your take away from what we have seen and heard so far? >> for one thing, he did refer to the fact that they had that history from the vice president, the trip across the country, a state department visit, lunch that i was at. there were a lot of meetings then. they spent many hours together. things went off the rails. i do remember last time xi, i believe, was in the united states was when he was visiting at mar-a-lago. and there was a great effort by president trump then. it was early in the presidency, he had his daughter and
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son-in-law were of course white house staff, but he also brought in the children. it was around christmas time, and ivanka trump and jared kushner's children sang in mandarin, a christmas or folk song with president xi, there were communications and cards back and forth, and then it went off the tracks, of course, with covid and with the anti-chinese sentiments expressed by not only the president but in the united states, political pressure, as well as in congress. there was a great deal of anti-chinese sentiment and blame for covid, and for the lack of transparency that china had and wuhan. and that really hung over the beginnings of the biden administration as well. they had a lot of rebuilding to do, and then, again, the problems with the balloon. i thought it was very interesting also that president xi said it is unrealistic to one country to try to remodel the
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other. which is a reference to american efforts to among both parties to try to do something about human rights and other domestic concerns that we have with china. we haven't mentioned cyber and chinese attacks, cyber attacks as well as spying, espionage, commercial, as well as political espionage. so the chinese hacking. there's been a lot of adversarial things they have to deal with. when you look at that table, i see curt campbell, long time asia adviser at the nsc, about to be deputy secretary of state. jake sullivan, of course, janet yellen. gina raimondo is one of the most important secretary cabinets, after blinken set the table, and john kerry, about to have the climate summit in dubai. and without agreeing on doing
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something about reducing, you know, the emissions, the two superpowers, there's very little that the rest of the world will be able to achieve. president xi did not go to the g20 in new delhi. so that was a lost opportunity to meet on the margins, and here they are meeting at the nascar begins of apec. interestingly, chris, it was initially thought that this meeting would come at the end of the apec meeting, perhaps on saturday. it was moved up in part because there was anticipation that there could be a government shutdown this week, at which point, the whole american team would not be able to travel and function. of course, the air force one could get home, but there were a lot of things that could not happen during a government shutdown. the president would have been distracted. that has been diverted. the house has gone home and passed the legislation, but the meeting was moved up to the beginnings of the apec week rather than at the end. >> and one thing we will not see here, monica, which is typical when you have high level
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meetings like this is a joint statement. there will be separate statements here, which tells you something about the divide that andrea just talked about and sue as well. so what does happen next? for starters, they're expecting three to four hours here, and then what? >> reporter: exactly, chris, and a lot of that is to accommodate time for translators. we know when they last met face to face in bali, that meeting lasted several hours because of that component. the same is expected here today, and then notably, president biden will hold a solo press conference later this afternoon to provide his own assessment of how the talks went, what was accomplished, what everything in terms of what was exchanged, how the tone of that went, how it was received, so we're going to hear the american response to how that all went from the president himself later. president xi for his part, he does not hold press conferences. that is not something he does. he does not even really take shouted questions.
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you saw despite some of their best efforts, some of our colleagues in the room attempting to ask questions. that's not something that xi jinping would do on a normal day. of course in that moment, president biden not responding either. what we are going to hear later this evening from president xi is he's going to headline a dinner with some of the country's most important ceos and business leaders. that is something that president biden will not attend. he's going to have his own separate event tonight connected to the apec summit. president xi is really going to lay out what his impressions were from the meeting in that venue, which i think tells you a lot about that decision, since he's there to make the case to the u.s. business community about why they should continue their investment in china, since this is such a huge economic priority for him, and that is the lens through which he will likely frame this meeting. again, we will hear from him tonight, and likely high level cabinet officials, some in the room you see there right now
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might attend that dinner as well, chris. >> well, i just went on the web site of the house and gardens, and that is where they are meeting right now, and it says on their web site, tis the season to make special memories. let's see what happens as they get underway with this very important, very high stakes meeting. monica alba, andrea mitchell, sue mi terry, thank you all so much for being part of this coverage. well, fears are intensifying for hundreds of civilians in gaza as the idf releases new footage of israeli forces raiding the largest hospital in the war zone. what israel was looking for inside. that's next. that's next. (christina) with verizon business unlimited, i get 5g, truly unlimited data, and unlimited hotspot data. so, no matter what, i'm running this kitchen. (vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon. (bridget) with thyroid eye disease i hid from the camera.
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hour. he is the director of the burns unit, and he described the israeli raid from his perspective. he told me that he is currently inside the main surgical building of al shifa hospital, and that is significant because he can not move around the hospital compound. he tells me there are any number of israeli snipers surrounding the hospital, israeli drones flying through the air. he said the land lines are down, mobile connections down, internet is down. it's very difficult for him to communicate and to build a full picture of exactly what is happening inside the hospital. from his perspective, he said this began at 11:00 last night. the israeli military bombed the fourth floor of the building that he was inside. he said that is the main surgical building. he said the rocket went into a patient's room. he said luckily no one was injured. he said everyone was terrified and scared. take a listen to what he told
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me. >> everyone's terrified and scared of what's happening. imagine all kinds of weaponry all around the hospital, which started like six days ago. they are all around the hospital, the snipers are all around the hospital. at 1:00 a.m., they called them they are planning to go in, and to get into the building. >> reporter: when they asked the director general to join them, the israeli military, the director general declined. he said he felt unsafe. then they said they went into the basement floor of the hospital. they searched the basement floor of the hospital as well as the dialysis unit. they took some of the people insides dialysis unit out of the dialysis unit to be searched. he said they checked everyone
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inside of that unit. he said he saw ten soldiers inside the hospital. they were taking people outside of the building. he said it's unclear if the israeli military at present is inside the building. now, tonight, the israeli military doubling down on its allegations that al shifa hospital is being used, was used as a command post for hamas. they released video showing what they say they found behind an mri machine within the hospital itself saying they found hamas weapons, as well as more weapons that they said that were carried in a hamas go bag. tonight, the israeli prime minister's office alleging that al shifa's hospital has lost protection under international law because of that exploitation. >> eric mclaughlin, thank you for that. new hampshire seeks to protect its status as home to first in the nation primary. we've got a live interview with new hampshire's secretary of state, next.
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first. but, new hampshire is following the state's law, which requires their presidential primary to come at least a week before any other. all of that means that in 2024, joe biden will not be on the ballot in the new hampshire primary. voters will need to write in his name instead. nbc's mike memoli is live from concord. we wanted the view from new hampshire, and there you are with a key player in all of this, take it away, mike. >> reporter: that's right, chris. i could talk to you about the importance of the announcement that was just made here in new hampshire, but let's go to the man who made the announcement, secretary of state, dave scanlan. national democrats had an idea of when the new hampshire should be. you didn't follow that. talk about your decision? >> new hampshire has held the first in the nation primary for over a hundred years now, and it is a primary that is designed for the people, for the average voter. the voters in new hampshire take great pride in making those
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choices, and participate in large numbers on election day. >> now, the argument against new hampshire is that it doesn't necessarily reflect diversity of the party. that's what president biden said and why he chose south carolina to go first in line. what's your response to that? >> there's not state that is more american than any other state. the reason why new hampshire is important is because it is really the one place where any individual that is qualified to be president can come here, easily get their name on the ballot and be able to run for president. and maybe it's a fourth grade dream that they had that they want to try and fulfill. new hampshire is a place where they can go and try and make that happen. >> reporter: supporters of president biden in new hampshire, they are waging a grass roots effort, they call it to get people to write in the president's name. is that going to be successful here, and what kind of complications is that for you as the man who has to count the votes. >> we'll see how successful it is.
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obviously the president is a well known name, and it should be easy to get people to write his name in. it's yet to be determined how many votes you would actually get. in terms of counting those ballots, the presidential primary ballot has one race on it. it's vote for one, and so it should not be a huge task to have to count a bunch of write-in votes. we're preparing the towns to add on extra help, for that county process, and we still expect results will be reported at the end of the night. >> reporter: so, chris, obviously this is a big day for new hampshire, protecting its status as first in the nation. i was with vice president harris, though, on friday. she went to south carolina. she called that state first in the nation. it will be interesting to see what happens here on january 23rd. >> the president himself, otherwise occupied right now, but i have a feeling we'll hear from those folks as well. mike memoli and the secretary of state, thank you both so much. that is going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us or "chris jansing reports" every weekday, 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern right
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