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proposed a trial date for donald trump's georgia election case. we have the details about the ex presidents formal lawyers who told willis once they reached plea agreements. plus, george santos's last stand in just over a week. the republican could finally be expelled from congress. also, the maga fiction, the magnification of the gop. al secret congresswoman barbara lee but the vile rhetoric coming from the right. i am ayman mohyeldin, let's get

started. >> we start this hour with major developments in fulton county district attorney fani willis's election interference case against donald trump. just within the last 24 hours we have learned when we could expect to see the disgraced ex president and his codefendants had to trial in georgia. prosecutors have requested in august 5th, 2024 trial date. that is just three months before the general election. willis's proposal kept off a busy week in court. on thursday, sct mcafee judged a request from the office from an emergency perspective order, after videos from key witnesses in the case were leaked to news outlets. willis's office asked for the order after part of the videotapes -- janetll and sidney powell, and kenneth chesebro, and bail bondsman scott hall were all

somehow made public. now, we should remind you that they were among those 19 codefendants charged by willis back in august. however, they have all since pled guilty, and have agreed to cooperate with the attorney general's office. win the filing, willis's office argued that an order was necessary, quote, to protect witnesses, and to safeguard sensitive and confidential information during the discovery process. the d.as fice also said the leaks were, quote, clearly intended to intimidate witnesses in this case, subjecting them to harassment and threats prior to trial. jonathan miller, an attorney for former ccoun election supervisor misty hampton, who is one of the codefendants, took responsibility for the leak. miller said that he released a video because he believed it was in the clients, in his client's best interest. the recordings have brought to light previously undisclosed details about the efforts of trump and his allies to reverse his election loss.

here's what janet eilish told trump's deputy chief of staff at the time had to say after she warned him that the president was quickly running out of options to challenge joe biden's win. >> and he said to me, and i kind of, in a excited tone, while we don't care, and we're not gonna leave. i said what do you mean? he said, well, the boss, meaning president trump, and everyone understood the boss, that's what we all called him, he said the boss is not going to leave under any circumstances. we are just going to stay in power. and i said to him, well it doesn't quite work that way you realize. he said we don't care. >> -- according to the washington post, who obtained portions of these video statements, kenneth chesebro also disclosed to prosecutors details about a previously unreported white house meeting, during which he says he briefed trump on election challenges in arizona, it's summarized a memo about states of elector in key battleground states. chesebro's recollection could provide evidence that trump was

well aware of the fraudulent elector plan. now, remember, these are just snippets of hours long conversations that those witnesses had with fani willis's office. that means more bombshells could actually be revealed when these codefendants turn cooperators take the stand, and give out all of their details. let's bring in our panel for the hour, jessica levinson, professor at loyola law school. hayes brown, writer numb editor for msnbc daily. and danielle moodie, host of woke a f daily, and host of democracy, and the new abnormal podcast. great to have all of you with us. jessica, talk to us about that protective order issued by judge mcafee. what does it mean for the case moving forward? >> it means that you and i, and other people will get less information potentially about information that is exchanged between the parties. essentially what the judge said, and what it looks like the party has agreed to, is that

there is some sensitive information that will be subject to this protective order, and that there may be a difference in how information is shared. i know the prosecution had said there are certain information that they don't want to just hand over to the defense counsel. instead they will say, come on in, take a look, take notes. but it essentially means that there will be less potentially in public, in the public eye. that doesn't mean that this is operating in some sort of unconstitutional secrecy. it just means that for purposes of the administration of justice, of protecting the jury pool, of protecting witnesses, the judge has decided that a protective order is appropriate here. and the prosecution had actually asked for one back in september. the judge had said, can i have an update on this? the emergency hearing was kind of an acceleration of that request. >> hayes, you heard about gender dallas told prosecutors, according to dance give you know. quote, the boss is not gonna leave under any circumstances. a statement like that, honestly,

a place is trump right at the top of the chain of command. because that is been a central question in all of this when it comes to the plot to overturn the election, or election subversion efforts. how damning are these revelations for the ex president's case do you think? >> very i would say. the fact that, it was already damning the fact that several of his former lawyers, who he had been planning on throwing onto the bus himself said, i was just doing what they told me too, the fact that several of them have now come out, and told the prosecution, look, we were the ones who are actually doing what we were told here. janet alice saying, relaying dance gavino's line that, we're not going anywhere. if it were anyone else, that could just be bluster. like no, we're making sure that this happens. but given what we know now, given our hindsight, it is very hard to hear that, into things yourself, oh, that was just them trying to show confidence,

ensure of the fact that they're gonna do their best to make sure that they can stay in office. the fact that this is now public, that i agree with, i agree with fani willis, that it is probably out there to try to make it so these lawyers who -- testify -- considering how now the prosecution will still be, how much the prosecution actually house a lean on during trial. >> by the sound of it, hazel looks like there is agreement to your analysis from the peanut gallery there. and that dog that was barking. danielle, i have to ask you about something that ex trump attorney, sydney powell, till prosecutor about trump's believe he won the 2020 election. take a listen to this.

>> all his instincts told him he had been defrauded, that the election was a big fraud. >> did he ever point to any kind of proof, or evidence, or anything he was getting from his other attorneys? or experts? >> well he talked about seeing the vote go backwards on the tv. just general instincts of something wasn't right here. >> general instinct that something was not right here. how do you think trump's so-called instincts will hold up as evidence in a fraud in a court of law? >> i don't think his instincts really matter. because he was never going to leave the white house at all. we know that. we understand that now. i think that's the problem here, eamonn, is the fact that we continue to believe that this is a normal set of circumstances. the fact that judges are having to go to this length in order to protect jurors, and in order to protect the integrity of this trial, it shows us just how dangerous donald trump and all of his stick of fans are.

this is not a normal trial. none of these are. the fact that we have jurors who are in danger, the fact that we have law clerks in danger, whose information is being put out, things are being leaked, if this were any other person, it would be considered a mob boss. a mob trial. this person, donald trump, he would not be free to continue to make comments, not beacon free to continue what they're doing. but we continue to shrug this off as if this were normal behavior. donald trump's instincts are going to take over america. donald trump's instincts will destroy democracy, as is the republican party that is holding him up as their martyr. and i think that should be the alarm that we continue to sound. >> jessica, this week the d.a. fani willis asked a judge to revoke the bond agreement for one of trump's codefendants, harrison floyd, citing his recent comments on social media and on podcast that she made amounted to a pattern, that she says amounts to a pattern of intimidation towards

codefendants and witnesses. how likely is it that floyd could end up back in jail? >> eventually possible. but i think that it will look much like what happens when the president, and the president violates a gag order. which first, it is a smaller punishment, a slap on the wrist, a monetary fine. and then eventually, if the violations escalate in the case of the gag order, or in the case of this defendant who has been making some troubling statements on social media, podcasts, then you could potentially see the bonjour vote, or the case of the gag order, to finish up the analogy, you could potentially see someone jailed for that. i don't think that's where we're going. but that is the nuclear option that is of course what the district attorney is asking for here. >> hayes, floyd has attacked witnesses in this case, like janet ellis, georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger, is

he taking a page out of donald trump's book here? that he knows could, work and get him even more endearment from donald trump? >> i think what's wild about this is he taking a page from his own playbook. this is exactly what he was indicted for, intimidating witnesses, including ruby friedman. the fact that he is now turned around, and taking the social media -- going up and having people allegedly go to rudy, ruby friedman store, i think it is a shift in terms of tactics, but not overall strategy. like this is what he was doing in donald trump's name all along. so i am not particularly surprised that he is trying to push the line, push the boundaries. to your point, yes, this is very trumpian. this is very much similar to what trump is doing when it during these windows, when the gag orders against him are lifted, he and his allies are going on to attack the people who were supposed to be protected under the gag order.

so this is all part in parcel with the overall trumpian world view of someone, have to be convincing the world that everyone is actually against me. and doing anything i can to spin that narrative. >> danielle, we finally have a proposed trial date, august 5th, 2024. earlier this week a willis says she anticipates the trial will take many months, and wrap u around early 2025, with proceedings underway during the final stretch of the 2024 presidential election. obviously this has a tremendous amount of significance, because it could mean something very significant for the voters, but ultimately, if there is no verdict or before election day, you could have a scenario whereby a president who does not have part in power over this case is elected, in fani willis, or perhaps the jury and georgia finds donald trump guilty while he is the president of the united states.

>> it's absolutely disastrous. the idea we could have a president of the united states, somebody that is duly elected, we think, right at this time, that is standing trial of a verdict that we won't know until after inauguration day, it's absolutely preposterous. it's also preposterous that republican party would have this person be at the top of their ticket to begin with. donald trump is ahead of the field by some 30 points right now. a man that has four indictments, and 91 charges. this could potentially, in a 50/50 toss-up, be the next president of the united states, it's absolutely wild. and it should set off alarms for everyone that is conscious and paying attention. >> all right panel, please stick around, we're just getting started. coming, up our george santos's days in congress numbered? or will republicans continue to defend him until 2024? we're gonna have more on that in a moment. but first richard louis is here with the headlines. >> good evening to you. former first lady rosalynn

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of him after this ethics committee, saying that santos sought to fraudulently exploit every aspect of his candidacy for his own personal profit. accusing him of blatantly stealing from his campaign, and deceiving donors. santos is also accused of bringing campaign money to himself, and fictitious loans, using his connections to obtain funds through fraudulent and questionable dealings. jessica, these stunning revelations from this report, just put that in context for us. could this put santos in significant legal trouble outside of being expelled from congress? >> absolutely. it is so surprising in the sense that as you know, there is so much money that could legally go to candidates, and there is so much money that is legally available to candidates in officeholders. and what looks like to be the case here is that santos just blew through every applicable

rule and regulation when it comes to not using campaign funds for your personal use. the first class i ever taught was finance and law, the first thing that i have ever taught them is this is your campaign, this is not your personal bank account. it is not for your kids tuition, it is not for your mortgage, it is not for your beautiful set of new clothing in the case of george santos. yes, he could absolutely not just be facing expulsion from the house, but also some significant legal exposure as well. now, we do not know what that is going to look like right now, as you said, the previously held a vote where i think it was 179 members of the house voted to expel him, you need two thirds, so i think that we are looking at 290 here, checking my notes and my math. i think that that is potentially possible, i mean, he is not popular in his own party, although it is a slim margin. there's obviously republicans only have ten votes to have the majority. so they don't wanna lose

anybody. >> if this resolution passes it will be the first time, as i mentioned, 20 years, the last one to do it could be expelled, that was then congressman james who was convicted on ten counts including bribery, racketeering, this is not a regular occurrence in the u.s. congress. >> that is correct. the fact that during the last thing we saw with santos, it didn't even reach a majority. and that is in part because of about 30 democrats voting against the resolution, the reasoning they gave was we do not want to set a precedent that we can just go out, kicking out to members willy-nilly without a full ethics investigation or without a conviction. now, the ethics committee, which normally is not known for its haste, has quickly put out their final report on george santos. and now we have people lining up to try to boot santos. not only do we have the ethics

committee chair, we also have the democrat of new york, robert garcia, democrat of california who put out a resolution on santa's that field this year. that was pointed to the ethics committee. so, the momentum is building against santos here and it seems to me like there's enough republicans who are thinking that santos is not running, we want to at least give the illusion that we do not like him before we have to run both a special election and to try to keep that seat and fall of 2024. it is not looking great for george. >> what is the likelihood that this resolution passes? congress means that two thirds of the house, as jessica was saying, could this be the final straw for republicans? >> let's say that this congress has not done much, has not passed, i think what, 22 pieces of legislation? maybe they want to add this like they have done something. so, the reality here is that it

is necessary to give the illusion that we have a functioning government and that we do not just allow workers to walk in the door. i want to make the point that george santos would not have been possible without donald trump. you wouldn't have a george santos who was given the blueprint on how to grift from your constituents and your followers of donald trump did not exist. if you didn't have a steve bannon that ran an entire campaign around building a wall and stealing from constituents to do just that. which is what he was held guilty for and accountable until he was -- you don't have santos without donald trump you don't have donald trump without and appeasing, unaccountable republican party. so they own this man in the same way that they own the republican party and the democrats are smart they will not allow the two to be separated. >> all right jessica, thank you very much. after the break, congresswoman barbara lee joins me to discuss

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been magnified. just look at the halls of congress this week to understand what i mean. republican congressman, tim burchett, who voted to oust kevin mccarthy from the speakership, accuse the former speaker of deliberately elbowing him in a capitol hallway. mccarthy denied that and the most aggressive way possible saying if i kidney punched him he would be on the ground. matt gaetz has now filed an ethics complaint against mccarthy for the incident, that same day house oversight hearing erupted one jared moskowitz conducted the chairman over reporting that he loaned his brother $200,000. it was a sore spot for comer after, all he is investigating president biden over 200,000 dollar loans that he gave his

brother while not in office. so, he called moskowitz a smurf. over in the senate, mullin of oklahoma publicly challenged his president to, wait for it, a fight during the hearing. >> sorry, this is a time, this is a place, you want to run your mouth, we can finish it here. >> that's fine. perfect. >> you want it now? >> i would love to do it right now. >> stop it. sit down. sit down. you are a united states senator, act like it. >> wow. this, ladies and gentlemen, is the gop. this is the gop maga fight, no doubt about it. picking petty fights, engaging in displays of machismo instead of actually serving their constituents and trying to get something meaningful done for this country. joining me now is a democratic congresswoman, barbara lee of california. she is running for the u.s.

senate in california. it is good to have you with us. so just gotta get your reaction to this other nonsense chaos, this embarrassment that we saw from colleagues of yours on capitol hill this week. >> nice to be with you, amen. i think that what it demonstrates to the public is that they, first of all, are in total disarray. secondly, the civil war is continuing, thirdly, they are angry all of the time. and they are not working for the people, they are not working for their districts, democrats have governed when we are in the majority, we pass major legislation. i think the public is beginning to see how the republican party, the maga republicans supported this beaker, that is their agenda, they are in total disarray and the house is totally dysfunctional. >> let's talk about the government funding bill that the president signed, it effectively sets up another funding fight at the beginning of the year.

do you have confidence that the speaker, johnson, to get a longer term deal through not the short term spending deals, after you've got dozens of republicans who voted against pcr this time? >> i felt like it was democrats ensure that the government didn't shut down. we brought it, not the republicans. so i don't know what he's going to do. this is what takes place when you saw that speaker mccarthy actually agreed to all of what the extremist maga republicans demanded. this is what we have. i was during that 15 graham, voting for the speakership, they were sitting at the front of the podium to democrats to adopt that, and my gosh, what i saw from there, that vantage point, and what i saw and heard was just, i don't think that

could ever happen on the floor of the house. you just don't know. but democrats delivered once again, democrats delivered on the debt ceiling, we are in the minority, and we are still delivering. we have to see how he moves forward, but look who elected him. and look who he is holding on to. >> let me get your reaction to what we've been seeing from donald, trump his attacks on perceived enemies. we know that these attacks have real world consequences that his supporters can act on. his very words. why is there such a collective shoulder shrug from republicans, the way that he is going after judges, law clerks, prosecutors, the department of justice, and has attacked them in the most vulgar and dangerous of ways? >> this shows that they know that our democracy is very fragile and that donald trump is really spewing hate, first

of all. also, moving to the established reelecting of an autocratic government, i remember how dangerous that was. as some, during the mccarthy era. this is very much a wake up call to what could take place of this man were reelected. so i hope that democrats and independents and republicans understand the dangers that he presents. because he's letting us know right away who he is. i've known forever. but for those who believe that this man would be a good president, or who could work more people in, i think that the last few months really have shown who he is once again, and the dangers that he poses. and he is a national security threat, which has been stated over and over again. >> congresswoman, you are running for the open u.s. senate seat in california, talk to me about what is on the line

for our country as we head into this critical election year. when you think about important races like the when you are competing in, but also what we are seeing in state legislators and an initiatives across the country, on reproductive rights for women. >> thank you. i am in sacramento now, at the democratic party convention. and people are out here, they are very excited, but worried about what the future holds. but they are determined that they are going to go to the polls to elect democrats. my campaign is really a phenomenal campaign in terms of the coalitions and the multi racial generational progressive coalitions that we put together. i am so pleased that i have bernie sanders organization, the working families party, they've endorsed gen z, many of our young democratic loves. six of the constitutional officers supporting rural and

urban communities up and down the state. people want change. our great state, here we have 40 million people. they live one paycheck away from poverty. so when i talk to people, you know, i experience my life where i was on food stamps, and i needed a little from my government. and there's so many people who need a little help. so i see, them i hear them, and what they see, they get to know me, my lived experiences in this campaign. they say yes, i am the person that i want to vote for because they know that i will represent them in the united states senate. those who have not been seen or heard and the affordability crisis is our number one issue. the cost of housing, the cost of childcare, the main drivers of not being able to really be able to take care of the family and to live the quality of life that is offered in our great state of california. >> congresswoman, i have to ask

you really quickly, you've been one of the few calling for a cease-fire overseas. right now, as we heard today from president biden, or read today from president biden, a cease-fire would not bring about peace to the region right now. give me your thoughts on what is happening right now in gaza as well as the administration's reluctance to call for a cease-fire in exchange for the hostages. >> i call for a cease-fire. i believe that that is the only way we are going to be able to make sure that these hostages, which i am terrified about in terms of their release, we happen to have a cease-fire so that the space is created for these hostages to be released. secondly, i believe that hamas is a terrorist organization. i know that. and the israelis have a right to defend themselves. they have a right to their security. but believe me, the rules of engagement, the rules of war

prohibit the killing of civilians. and we have over 11,000 palestinians killed and over 7000 children killed. you cannot tell me that this is going to allow for a pathway to peace, because ultimately, hamas is catastrophic for the palestinians, it is catastrophic for the israelis. so we have to find a way to have a cease-fire, so that the diplomacy can be a merged, because if we have to make sure, and the countries on the region, the nations unfortunately right now, and they are beginning to not see this path. the united states, i think, has a responsibility to make sure that we find a path where the israelis have security, and peace, and safety, and the palestinians also live with peace, and safety, and justice,

side by side. and that takes a cease-fire. and that takes not, you know, killing civilians. we work now trying to get humanitarian aid out, hoping ten ago she ate about 11 billion dollars in humanitarian systems. we can't even get that in. so a cease-fire is the only way that this is going to stop the carnage that is taking place. >> all right, congresswoman, thank you so much for your time. i greatly appreciated, as always. up next, we will turn to the war in gaza and what is happening on the ground. stay with us. with us the virus that causes shingles is sleeping... in 99% of people over 50. it's lying dormant, waiting... and could reactivate. shingles strikes as a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks. and it could wake at any time. think you're not at risk for shingles? it's time to wake up. because shingles could wake up in you.

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and forcibly egypt id 50,000 israelis who were living in gaza. they left all of their infrastructure, they had a big infrastructure, greenhouses, where they were supplying fruits, vegetables, flowers, et cetera. and you know, the palestinians deserve to have a productive, successful, economy in gaza. hamas came in, and basically destroyed all of that. >> clinton claimed that 50,000 israeli settlers were ejected from gaza in september of 2005. that is not correct. according to the times of israel, the number was 8000. the number was closer to 8000. and then there is the notion that israel left gaza in 2005. yes, israel removed 8000 settlers from their, and israel did remove its military installations. but palestinians still did not control their skies, or their

wa just a few years before in 2000, in response to the second palestinian uprising, israel actually cracked down on gaza. they then reported thatone casualty was gazis inrnational airport. the palestinians only direct link to the outside worldthat was not controlled by israel, or egypt. israel deemed it a security threat and destroyed its radar antenna and run away a few months after the september 2001 attacks. another casualty was gaza's shing industry, a source of income for tens of thousands of palestinians. gaza's fishing zones, reduced by israel, a restriction instead was necessary to stop boats smuggling weapons. according to a 2000 for human rights watch report, on the imminent disengagement plan as it was known, quote, in addio controlling the borders, coastline, and airspace, israel willntin to control gaza's telecommunications, water, electricity, and sewage networwell as the flow of peopled goods into and out

of the territory. gaza will so continue to use isel currency in an opinion piece secretary clinton wrote forthe atlantic this week, she repeatedly claimedthat it has been hamas that have stood in the way of any kind of permanent peace deal with israel. but ten years ago, former president, jimmy carter having a much different understanding of the situation, that hamas was in fact open to a two state solution with israel, but that it was the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, who made up his mind on a one state solution controlled by israel. watch. >> can any deal be done that doesn't involve sitting across the table with hamas? >> i've met several times with hamas leadership. and i think that they are willing to accept israel to exist peacefully within the 67 borders with modification of those borders. netanyahu has decided on equivocally to move to a one state solution. which every one of his

predecessors in the prime minister ship has condemned as a disaster for israel. i think israel is now moving towards a disaster for itself and insisting that it has to be is really controlled. that is a mistake. >> let's address one more claim made by secretary clinton. >> remember, there was a cease fire on october 6th. that hamas broke by their barbaric, assault on peaceful civilians. >> the secretary is absolutely correct in calling hamas's october 7th terrorist attacks barbaric. but according to the united nations, prior to the october 7th attack just in 2023 alone some 237 palestinians were killed as a result of confrontations between palestinians and israelis and the context of the occupation. it is true. hamas broke the cease fire on

october 7th. but it is not a true cease-fire in the region beforehand. let's be honest about that. there has also been times when israel broke cease-fires. in 2008, the idf broke a cease fire with a raid in the gaza strip that killed six. in 2012, according to raeli peace activist, gershon baskin, the israeli military assassinated the leader because he was considering a dropped of a truce agreement. days later, after another ase-fire was announced, the israeli military shot down a palestinian man and wounded 15 at the gaza border. secretary clinton is not the only current or former official that has failed to acknowledge the full complexity of the historical events that have led to this current moment. but as we cover and will continue to cover this war, it is important that we do so with the appropriate set of facts. we will be right back. will be right back.

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like me, especially people who don't have the privilege, the freedom to just know about our bodies. we don't even have the access to just love our bodies. sex ed is not mandatory out here in america. schools are not teaching their students about periods, even though it is clear that they have students who menstruate. >> joining me now is an activist whose work is highlighted in periodical. it is great to have you with us. talk to us a bit about your own story that is actually highlighted in periodical. what motivated you to organize around these unjust menstruation laws? >> that is a good question. thank you for having me. i first got involved, well, i first learned about the stigma around menstruation when i was in the fifth grade. we learned about periods and in gender segregated classrooms. iverson's then, a part of me has always questioned, why is menstruation something so shameful to be talked about?

you know? for a lot of young people, it perpetuated the stigma from a very young age. but it wasn't until when i started university that i realized not talking about menstruation has really detrimental consequences for society. and it leads to bad policies like the tampon tax. and a huge barrier that i think a reason that these policies exist is because people feel ashamed, and embarrassed to talk about periods because of the stigma. and learning about these issues, and how these policies really perpetuate a cycle of period poverty. that is when people don't have access to period products. that is what really pushed me to take action and motivated me to do something about it. so i started a student group called period at the high state university. and together, we mobilized, and we really decided to take down the tampon tax in ohio. i had no policy background, i

was a pre medical student, and now i am a medical student. but what really push me to do something about this was, if i didn't, who would? and there was not as much momentum in my state at the time to repeal the tampon tax, and that is what really motivated me to get involved in this movement. and since then, so many -- because of our success in ohio, and repealing the tampon tax, students from other states are reaching out asking how i can do this in my state. and i started reading national campaigns, and in 2019, aiko led the first ever national period a campaign, with another ohio state student, and together we had a goal to pressure lawmakers to take action. so, young people, all across the country rallied and mobilized across all 50 states and form countries, to pressure lawmakers to take action and pass more menstrual equity

legislation like repealing the tampon tax, and pushing for access to free period products in schools. >> let me just jump in really quick, because i think you are giving us so much important information. i just want to pick up on that point, because people who may be watching this are going to ask, what do you hope that they learn and take away from this film, is it about the power of organization, the power of youth, how important the subject is, is it about the fact that there is this bias that is built into our legal system with things like a tampon tax that i would say the majority of people are not necessarily aware of when they go into a supermarket and shop? >> all of the above are very solid points. and the fact that, the thing i am really passionate about is that i believe you do not need a ph.d. in menstruation studies or a law degree to speak up about these issues. i really want people to realize that we are all inherently activists. you don't need a fancy diploma, or degree, or any specific

background to speak up about the issues that you care about. i really hope that people realize that they are already activists, and it is about being brave enough to pick up the phone and call your lawmakers. >> all right. thank you so much. i greatly appreciate your time and your insight, keep up the good fight on this very important development story that we all need to be aware of. >> thank you so much. >> and thank you for making time for, as make sure to come back tomorrow night at nine eastern on msnbc. i will be speaking with the ranking member of the house budget committee, brendan boyle, on how democrats once again saved republicans from a government shutdown. and the senator will join me as pressure grows on president biden to call for a cease-fire in gaza. until then, have a good night. ood night.

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