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right now, a tentative hostage deal reach, pending israel approval. at this moment, prime minister netanyahu is meeting with his war cabinet. the potential deal inclusion a four to five-day pause in fighting to arrange for hostages being released. now, these numbers are subject to change. joining us is raf sanchez, and what officials in israel doing? what are we hearing? >> reporter: how so i, as we speak, benjamin netanyahu is sitting down with the war cabinet. in an hour, it will be the slightly larger security cabinet, but the critical meeting is the full cabinet, which will be at 1:00 p.m. eastern. that's where we expect the

israeli government will vote to approve this tentative deal. jose, as you said, knowledge is time until ---ized, but you expectation is the israeli government, having negotiated this tentative agreement will now approve at the full cabinet. there are a number of far-right members of benjamin netanyahu's government who might vote against it, but it's believed the majority is there to approve this deal. as you said, jose, sources telling nbc news the broad outlines here are some 50 israeli women and children, as well as other nationalities, to be released in the coming days in exchange for several days of cease-fire. i can tell you, jose, there's a sense of ants pace across israel right now. this country has been absolutely glued to the news in the last 46 days, never more so than right now. for jose, for the families who

have had some of the most anxious hours, these are some of the most anxious yet. jose? >> gabe, what do we know about the fact that even participation of the united states in this possible agreement? >> reporter: well, jose, the united states has been very involved in the negotiations. we've been hearing about that for the last days and weeks. u.s. officials stress that, you know, there is no final deal until there is a final deal. essentially they've been very cautious about all aspects of this coming together. as you heard raf mention, this does involve the exchange of 50 or so hostages held by hamas in exchange for about 150 israeli-held palestinian prisoners. but according to a sort familiar with the talks in the region,

we're learning that could lead to the suspension of israeli drones for up to six hours every day. the u.s. has also been flying drones in the gaza strip. could it be that the u.s. would share intelligence with the israelis, even they're not the ones operating the drones? still a lot of questions to be ironed out. we heap to learn more as the progress moves forward. the number of trucks, an increase in humanitarian aid that could be a lowed into the gaza strip. it could be up to 300, 400 humanitarian aid trucks, appeared significantly more fuel heading into the gaza strip, which has been something that u.s. officials have been calling for over the last several days. now, president biden was asked yesterday whether he believed a

deal was near. he says, i believe so. he held up his fingers, crossed hi fingers, so this is something that had been anticipated for the last couple days, but we kept hearing from u.s. officials here at the white house that this is all very tenuous. even now, we still had not gotten an official confirmation on a lot of the details here, other than, you know, some reporting from several sources as senior u.s. official, as well as an official family with the region, and it's all subject to the approval of the israeli government, which could happen over the coming days. >> you were talking about the mood in israel. you have spoken with families of hostages throughout this war. put into context what this moments means for them? >> reporter: we expect the first tranche will mainly be women and children, so if it is your

child, grandchild, niece, nephew, or your sister or mother being held, you are hoping and praying they will be on this list. no one, as far as we can tell from the families, has yetting confirmation it would be their loved ones coming out as part of this deal. so these are anxious hours, but, jose, the numbers here are pretty brutal. there's some 240 hostages. we expect around 50 of them to be released until this deal, if it is confirmed, that means there is 190 families whose loved ones will not be coming out, at least not as part of this initial deal. we can be pretty confident the last people to come out will be the military-age males and soldiers. we spoke earlier to shelley, her 21-year-old son omar was kidnapped from the music

festival. the last glimpse of him was in a video with his hands behind his back being carted away. she knows it's unlikely her son is coming out as part of this initial deal, and i asked her what this moment is like for her. take a listen. >> i'm happy for the ones who will get free, but i am sad for myself and for omar. as i said, i'm a mother and all a mother needs is to protect her son. no mother all over the world needs to feel like i feel now. >> reporter: jose, i asked her a painful question -- is she emotionally prepared for the possibility that it could be years before her son is released as part of negotiations?

we saw an israeli soldier previously kidnapped in gaza. it took five years to negotiate his release. when i asked her that, she just said, no, no, no, no, he has to come out. jose? gabe, we expect the president to have anything to say today? this morning? >> reporter: it's an open question. president biden is set to hold an unrelated event regarding the administration's effort to combat fentanyl here at the white house very shortly. unclear if he might take questions at that event. we are not expecting an official statement from the white house so star. again, this is a situation where u.s. officials have calibrated their response very carefully, trying not to get ahead of the israelis, and the war cabinet, the full cabinet to meet over in

israel, the white house certainly watching its words when it comes to that, so no statement expected from the president just yet. jose, as you heard raf mention, also speaking with a family member from one of the hostages this morning, the great-aunt of the 3-year-old being held, and she told me she had not heard from the state department just yet. so these are very anxious hours for these families, as they await. something else to point out, another part of this deal, the suspension -- potential suspension of overhead drone flights. that would be done also to allow hamas to consolidate hostages, because at this point, you'll recall the last several weeks we've been reporting that it's possible not all the hostages are being held by hamas. they could be being held by other groups. there is some potential in this deal for the consolidation of those hostages.

certainly the logistics of that oh so complicated, and it should be very interesting to see how this deal, if and when it is announced, what the results are. >> just to take a pause, as you said. there's a 3-year-old little girl that today is going through day 45, 45, since she was abducted, taken on that da that caused so much death and destruction. gabe gutierrez and raf sanchez, thank you so much for being with us. joining us is ambassador dennis ross, a former senior director at the national security council, and retired -- ambassador, let me start with you, the tentative agreement is

still not finalized. what would still need to be worked out? atould potentially upend this deem? deal? >> one is, it still has to be approved by the israeli cabinet. the military leadership and the military is in favor of this, and they're in favor because they feel a responsibility, having allowed these people to be taken in the first place, they feel a responsibility to make sure that anybody who can be released will be released. that's number one. number two, there's a sequence here. hamas is supposed to be releasing about 12 hostages per day. so what happens if they don't release the full 12? or what happens if they come back on day 2 or 3 and say, look, we can't find the others. they make the claim, which i'm sure in this case could be true -- that they don't have a

lot of them. i'm quite dubious they will consolidate. it serves their interest to say, we need time. we may yet find that this is supposed to be, i think, four days. let's say on the fourth day they come back and say we can get another ten, but we need more time to get them, as a way to sort of extend this. this is the risk from the hamas factor. there's also the risk of do they accuse israel of not fully respecting the terms of this, either in terms of halting certain kinds of operations or affecting trucks that are coming in. there's different pieces of

this. >> what do you see as the biggest logistical -- to follow up? >> especially from an urban war fare perspective, where troops are told to hold movement, and we already see idf soldiers that have cleared areas being attacked from the rear, they are risks and challenges, but both sides would have to fully communicate the adherence to the terms that the political apparatus has agreed to. very challenging. a couple times, there's no drone flights over the gaza strip by israel during this period? why the importance of that? it would seem as though those

aren't essentially armed flights, but they're not participating in bombing. why the importance for hamas for not having drone flights? >> i mean without fully, you know, knowing, you have to assume that means they want freedom of maneuver in unoccupied areas. or even the to facilitate getting hostages from where they are to where the stage will happen. hamas wants a window of not just the stopping of fighting, but a window of freedom of movement in areas where they are. >> i was going to say that -- >> please do. >> -- there's concern that hamas will track -- not only when they move hostages, they themselves

may be moving, and they're worried about israeli intelligence picking up their movements. so even if they're not specifically target at this point, israel will have better intelligence on where they may be, especial by if they decide to move. that's likely. >> ambassador, just wondering, you know, what -- obviously there's huge benefit to the families with however many are released -- i'm just wondering, ambassador, are there any benefits to the state of israel to continue having negotiations, either with a third party or elsewhere, with this organization going forward? >> there's obviously a risk. the risk is you slow the momentum of the military campaign. there's also a risk that the idea of normalizing context

becomes pardon of a larger argument made for a cease-fire. the end sprout is hamas cannot be in control of gaza any longer. it means they have lost sharing organization at coherence. >> i apologize to both of you. let's go right to president biden. >> very soon. nothing is done until it's done. we have -- things are looking good at the moment. now, we're here today to talk about fentanyl and how to save more americans' lives. fentanyl is likely the number

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meeting about what is going on in between israel and hamas, and the possibility that in short order we could see the beginning of a process that would see liberation of some of the hostages that hamas and other groups have been holding in gaza for 45 days now. up next, why one of the former president trump's co-defendants in the election interference case could go back to jail today. plus, severe weather may affect your travel ahead of thanksgiving. what you need to know, next. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. r. can't stop adding stuff to your cart? get the bank of america customized cash rewards card, choose the online shopping category and earn 3% cash back. students... students of any age, from anywhere. using our technology to power different ways of learning.

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harrison floyd, a former head of black voided for -- voices for trump, is accused of violating his bond. katie phang, blayne is here with us as well. blayne, what are you looking forward to? >>. >> reporter: a judge ordered him to appear in person. that's not something we typically seen. so the fact he'll be in the courtroom today, i'll be interested in his demeanor and how that plays out. the other is around the social media posts, specifically those regarding ruby freeman.

basically they're framing this almost as a first amendment issue telling one outlet, yeah, maybe what he said could be seen as distasteful, but certainly not a violation of his bond agreement and not intimation. remember, the judge doesn't have to throw him back in jail. he could issue a stern warning, or order that he can't post anymore, restrict him from appearing on podcasts, so the question is how will the judge rule on all of this? finally, the other interesting thing that came out yesterday, is they believe this whole thing is retaliation, in their words, for turning down a plea deal offer from the d.a. so it would be interesting if any details of that come out today. >> katie, how likely is it that floyd goes back to jail? >> i think it's important not to look at him in a vacuum.

harrison floyd was the last to get out of jail, because he currently has a federal criminal cases for assaulting a federal officer, so he has a history of contact with the judicial system. second context is the judge weighing the totality of the circumstances in front of him. floyd is being accused in this indictment of intimidation. that's exactly what the state is saying now, he's now intimidating the very witness who is the victim in the indictment that he's accused or alleged of intimidating. if you're judge mcafear, you have a few optioning, but it's mading how we're seeing these parallel issues, and now we have harrison floyd saying the first thing, this is my first amendment rights. there are limitations, you cannot impede the judicial sim

by intimidating a witness or victim into not participating in the legal system. mcafee will truly operate in a vacuum in this instance. he's only going to look at what's going on with harrison floyd, the facts and circumstances of what's alleged. blayne and katie, thank to see you on set. you are the queen of everything here. >> you are so kind. coming up, severe weather sweeping across the country, including driving rain, tornadoes, even no. where the storms are heading next.

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27 past the hour. tsa expect this to be the busiest travel season ever. the faa expects 55 million americans will be hitting the roads and skies for the holiday. 49 million will be traveling by car. this week, 2.6 million people are expected to fly every day, but severe storms may affect your travel plans this week. joining us now is bill karins. good morning. what are you looking for? >> good morning, jose.

yesterday we were tracking the tornadoes through louisiana, mississippi. thankfully we did not have any hit any towns or homes, so that was fantastic. still an isolated chance for strong storms, mostly focusing on the panhandle of florida. this area of showers and storms over toward panama city. you notice all the heavy rain is around pan ha city, so the drive west of hall hassee is not fun. if we get any storms, it's done around dotha, and panama city. so far, so good. >> bill karins, thank you. up next, we go back to israel, where nbc has learned that a tentative deal. and we'll talk with a hostage negotiator, who has 20 years of experience. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. " diaz-balart reports" on msnbc.

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31 past the hour. turn back to the breaking news, right now the war cabinet is meeting after a tentative deal is reached to release some of the hostages held by hamas. back with us is raf sanchez from tel aviv. what have we learned, raf? >> reporter: jose, the meeting of the war cabinet is about halfway through. they'll head into two more

consecutive cabinet meetings, endingn the full cabinet at 1:00 p.m. eaer where we expect the israeliovernment to vote to approve this deal. we have not heard from benjamin netanyahu or his ministers, but the last couple minutes, we heard from president biden speaking at the white house. nothing is done until it's done, when we have more to say, we will, but things have been looking good at the moment. that's been the consistent message from the officials. until it's finalized, there's still a danger it could fall apart. we may hear an official announcement after that. jose, i want to tell you in the last couple minutes, there's been a significant rocket

barrage from gaza into central israel. very counter-intuitive that may be a positive sign. what we see in the run-up to ceasefires between these groups is often hamas, smaller groups will fire as much as they can in the final hours before a cease-fire goes into effect, because they know that the deal -- the guns will have to go silent after that. some in israel counter-intuitive interpreting the facts that they're going off, as a possible sign that the militants also that a cease-fire will come into effect soon. the outlines of this deal, as described by sources, say nbc news, we expect some 50 hostages, women and children to be released over a staggered period of four or five days,

likely about then per se. in exchange, israel will release around 150 palestinian prisoners, and will also agree to several days of cease-fire inside gaza. for those enduring 46 days of bombardment, there is the potential for at least some respite, the hope for more humanitarian aid getting in. at least 13 thousands people killed in gaza, if you take that number, it's equivalent in the u.s. to 2 million americans. that's about the population of the city of houston wiped out over the last 46 days of fighting since the hamas terror attack. so a lot of people on both sides of the border holding their

breath, as we await news of whether or not this deal will be confirmed. >> we don't even know, raf, if this deal is confirmed as early as today, when that first group of hostages could be released. interesting, you speak about the illogic nature of the logic of war, right? the missiles coming over as a possible deal is being finalized. the interesting question is, of course, the people of gaza that have been subjected to, you know, very difficult circumstances for 45 days now. more truck to come in, but there's also the fact that, raf, there are members of the idf inside gaza. they are pretty much in control of parts of it. what would happen to them during these days?

you have a conventional israeli military fighting the palestinian militants, who are not in uniform, but our understanding is the expectation here is both sides will effectively freeze their lines, that they will not carry out further military operations during this period of truce. israel has consistently said it is worried that hamas would opportunity to strengthen their military position, but israel, as you said, is in control of northern gaza at this point the argued from benjamin netanyahu, and it was repeated today, that military pressure makes it more likely, not less likely there will be a deal. jose? >> raf, thank you very much.

joining us nor is retired general kristal, who has 20 years of hostage negotiation. thank you for being with us. tang us inside hamas leadership. what do you think they need or want to get out of this deal? >> well, um, any deal happens when there is a meeting of minds. in this particular case, hamas in a barbaric atook more -- took more than 239 hostages. just to make it clear in terms of numbers, it's like in five, six hours, u.s. enemies will capture approximately 12,000 americans. this is the proportion. you need to deal with the actual leader of this terror

organization, a leader who was released in previous deals from the israeli prison theyrying to maximize his benefits. what he needs, he needs this pause, this pause in order to realign his collapsing forces. he needs this pause in order to strengthen his military defense. he doesn't need this pause in order to bring more humanitarian aid or in order to bring more medical care to his people in the southern part of gaza, but rather to realign and rearrange his terrorist forces to continue the military campaign for

israel. israel actually captures, or takes advantage of his interests and his needs in order to, first of all, to rescue the kids and the women and the elderly in what we in israel call humanitarian deal. humanitarians, because they people need to get back home as early as possible. he is willing, because he has so many hostages, he's willing to pay, because it serves two interests. one, as i want, instrumental interest to strengthen his defense, and in parallel, it will help him to clean a little bit his terror organization reputation. everyone now understands that as a result of this barbaric attack, hamas really took the

side not of, you know, a liberator of the palestinian people, but more rather of isis. he wants, to some extent, clear or fix the reputation that was built with the release of the videos of this horrific act his people did, in order to clear his reputation in western media, in arab countries. so, these humanitarian deals, in order to save our kids, our women, our elderly people, we are willing to give him what he currently needs, and this is four, five days of military pause. so, if getting back some of the people that were taken 45 days

ago, including, you know, as you said men, women and children. a 3-year-old child has been in there for -- there is clearly that major benefit for israel. are there not some possible pitfalls to do this at this time with this group? >> yes, there are pitfalls, it's very important for me to explain to theienc that we fight here for the social contract in israel. rael, all of the society recruited, drafted definitely in this particular moment.

we are willing to put our soldiers at risk in order to comply with the social contract in israel in israel that there is no front and homefront. everyone is a fighter in this war for the survival of the state of israel, for the social contract of israelis, and the well-being of jews to win peacefully. israel is willing to put at risk lives of their soldiers in gaza. israel is willing to put at risk and to allow hamas maybe to strengthen its defense. why? because this is the call. this is the call of the society and of the people in israel for those more than 200 civilians who were taken, kidnapped by the

atrocities of hamas/isis. colonel, you talk about the fundamental existential right to exist from the israeli social contract perspective, but what is a possible successful outcome of this conflict for the israeli social contract? >> well, you know, in the middle east you don't play chess. it's backgammon. we don't know honestly how this conflict will end. we're fighting for the right of the jewish people to live securely within its borders. we definitely understand that

there is a people. there's a palestinian people living in neighboring territories, but as long as the palestinian people will continue to associate themselves with this horrific actions, we will need to live upon our sword. this is not what we want, but this is the current reality. this war, this campaigns will not be over until the last hostage, including the four people who were held by hamas g. goldi, and three other civilians -- we will not stop this war. i want to make it for the audiences very clear, the purpose, the outcome is to

dismantle the military and governs capabilities of this terror organization. the release of the prisoners is our motivation, is our source of legitimacy we were attacked. we were surprised, our kids, babies, men and women and elderly, holocaust survivors were taken. we will not put down our weapons until the last hostage will return to israel, regardless of the price we have to pay. this is our survival war. retired colonel motycristal, thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. a walmart shooting, and we'll talk to debby wasserman schultz when she explored the

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he literally walked right past me. >> reporter: i want to underscore, investigators have not told us what kind of weapon he had. we expect to learn more later. that shopper and others say gratitude has a new meaning just days before thanksgiving. that walmart where they were shopping is now a crime scene. >> thank you very much. the shooting in ohio came just hours after a bipartisan group of members of congress walked through the building in parkland, florida, where a gunman killed 17 students and staff nearly six years ago. a building that has remained virtually untouched since the shooting. joining us is florida congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz. what was it like walking through that building? >> jose, our community -- i

represent the district right next to parkland where the high school is. our community has been engulfed in sadness since that fatal day on valentine's day in 2018. to have walked through what is essentially those moments frozen in time and see the kids' valentine's messages strewn on the floor, glass everywhere, the blood of the victims dried. absolutely horrific, gruesome scenes. when we walked through to have the parents who lost their children describe their own children's murder and what might have been the opportunity to ensure that they would be alive today, either if we didn't have

weapons of war marketed to the public, like we do today, or if we had schools that were constructed in a way that could keep children safer, or that we had personnel and students that were trained to be able to get themselves to safety as they were unable to do that day. >> just to think, that's the kind of stuff that kids have to deal with. it's just such a tragedy. i would like to turn now to what is breaking news that we have been covering all morning from the middle east. israel's cabinet is meeting to discuss a tentative agreement for the release of some of the hostages. how do you see that going? >> you know, i'm cautiously hopeful that the deal will be finalized. i'm thankful to president biden, who has remained fully engaged

since the attacks on october 7th and focused on what we should be focused on, which is ensuring that these hostages can be brought home to their families. the opportunity to bring home at least hopefully -- not that hamas can be trusted completely -- the children and women who have been held in captivity brutally by hamas since october 7th is so imperative. getting humanitarian aid in is important as well. making sure that there's -- the pause in the fighting is only so that we can get those hostages out. hamas is a genocidal terrorist group who is bent on eradicating israel and killing jews. a cease-fire can't be in the offing until all of the hostages are brought home. >> never forgetting what

happened here on the 7th of october. >> that's right. >> to think that that caused so much pain, death and destruction. congresswoman -- >> people are -- >> yes. >> it's important to know that hamas is a terrorist group. they have said and sworn that this was first attack. but there will be a second and a third and a thousand. understanding that israel needs to make sure that she can eradicate the threat to her people so that this never happens again and that we ensure those hostages come home, that's critical. >> congresswoman, thank you so much for being with us. let's continue our conversation going forward. >> i look forward to it. what our nbc news poll is revealing about what people are saying we need to fund before the war in israel and ukraine. e the war in israel and ukraine. and double the scrubbing power. for a no rewash clean... and a cabinet ready shine.

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56 past the hour. new polling this morning finding almost requarters of registered voters support more funding for security along the border with mexico. that's more than the support for aid for gaza as well as military aid for israel and even for ukraine. with us now is former florida congressman carlos carreira.

what does it say nearly twds want to see more funding for border security than for anything else? >> that's right. this is an issue that's been in the news for years now. the situation at the southwest border and the bottom line is, the center of the country and the majority of the country want to see the united states do better at the border. they want an orderly process and predictable immigration system. this is something important to keep an eye on for president biden as his poll numbers struggle. the administration would do well to focus on what the center of the country is calling for. >> thinking about what the center of the country is calling for, "the new york times" has a new piece looking at donald trump's harsh rhetoric toward his domestic political enemies. words matter. what is it that you think the former president is trying to accomplish by using these kinds

of attacks and these words over and over again? >> jose, this is the type of rhetoric that ultimately gets donald trump in trouble. he is doing well in the polls right now. it appears he is beating joe biden, if the election were held today. that can all change. when it comes time to vote, these statements, these words that donald trump uses will end up turning off the swing voters that end up deciding elections in this country. trump likes this kind of rhetoric. that's who he is. he wants to show he is tough. but a lot of times he goes overboard, and that ends up costing him when people show up at the ballot box. >> is it costing him with, i don't know, the first races he needs to win, iowa, new hampshire? >> it's not going to cost him unless republicans settle on one candidate to face off one on one against donald trump. that's what nikki haley and ron desantis are fighting for, that

opportunity to face off against trump one on one. if that situation does produce itself, then donald trump could face a real challenge in the republican primary, as long as the field is fracture and divided, he has a clear path to the nomination. >> always a pleasure to see you. that wraps up the hour for me. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," a tentative deal has been reached for the release of 50 women and children hostages, in exchange israel would release 150 palestinian hostages and halt hostilities to permit deliveries of fuel and aid. this pending approval by israel's war cabinet and the full cabinet meeting at this hour. prime minister