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get them work are worked out between the israeli government and hamas. qatar is acting as the intermediary. officials there are set to hold a news conference any moment. in the meantime, the swap of 50 women and children being held by hamas for a temporary ceasefire and 150 palestinian women and teenage prisoners is on hold. >> we were very disappointed this morning to learn that it has been postponed. they didn't reach an agreement yet, and we are all just waiting in anxiety to know what is happening because we want our people back. >> in gaza, missiles are still falling, and the dead are still being pulled from the rubble. in the southern city, another 100 bodies were buried in a mass grave. in the north, israel says it's uncovered more evidence of hamas

using this tunnel underneath al-shifa as a base. it's also been confirmed they are questioning the al-shifa hospital director. we'll ask an israeli spokesperson who joins news a morning about that. joining us now from tel aviv, david noriega, and kelly o'donnell who is with the president in nantucket. let us begin with you, david. we are in this pause -- or not this pause, this waiting period before the pause begins and the hostages are released. how tense is it in israel and what are people watching for? >> yeah, katy. the pause before the pause if you will. it's extremely tense here in israel. i should first say among the people who don't have a clear idea of what's happening are the families of the hostages themselves. they have been telling me today that they were surprised to hear of this delay. they heard about it from the press. they haven't gotten any kind of

detailed, clear information from the israeli government. they know about as much as anybody else does. the closest to an explanation for why this happened that we've gotten, we've got it from the u.s. national security council. they atributed it to logistical details. that makes sense given the ground war and air assault is ongoing and it's intensified and that's got to make it complicated to say the at least to hammer out the logistical details of what will be an extremely complicated operation, kelly. >> the white house has been involved in this. the president has been speaking with netanyahu and involved in negotiations with the qataris. what are they now saying about the timeline of this release? >> well, katy, good morning, and happy thanksgiving to you. the issue has been front and center of the president's time here. he made a series of calls to the regional leaders. obviously benjamin netanyahu, al sisi of egypt, and in qatar.

they are still concerned about how this will unfold. i've also been speaking with national security council officials and they lay this out basically saying that they do believe it is about trying to make sure that the deal can go forward smoothly because they recognize there are many sensitive potential drawbacks that could happen because of the connectivity on the ground and the sensitivity of these issues. so in talking with officials, what they've said is they believe the agreed upon deal remains agreed , that there are logistical questions about how best to implement this, and they believe this will really come to pass by friday. ey say it is on track and we are hopeful that the implementation wil bin by friday. our primarytive is to ensure our hostages are brought home safely. from a u.s. perspective, there is an understanding that three americans would be among this group, two women and a small toddler child. there is more work to do.

there are many more hostages including additional americans, and so the president has indicated and senior officials we have been talking to, that this is a first step. it will move forward they hope with care and without any kind of miscommunication that could cause additional violence or hold things up. so it is sort of tense in the sense that they have to resolve these questions. they need to see the progress begin, and they need everyone to adhere to what they have agreed to. so expect that this will be an uneasy period of time. more tense waiting is what officials have indicated, katy. >> thank you very much for starting us off. joining us now, an independent journalist who's been covering the conflict between the israelis and palestinians for decades. also a good friend of this show, and "the washington post" foreign columnist david ignatius. i want to ask you about this news that we're getting about the arrest of the al-shifa hospital director. the israelis are calling it a

detaining. how provocative is that within israel right now? >> i have to tell you that israelis are not really paying attention to it, and i don't think it's getting a lot of attention because of what your correspondents just described. israel is right now hanging in a sort of purgatory, waiting to see what happens with these hostages, and the government isn't communicating either with the family or with the people. so everyone is enmeshed in this, but i can tell you that for us foreign correspondents here who saw a fairly disturbing film, a video a few days ago of the idf spokesperson in gaza speaking with the head of this hospital, you know, outside the hospital showing him hamas tunnels. this is a man who runs a hospital in a brutal dictatorship, you know, so for us, seeing news today of his arrest is fairly disturbing. >> i wonder, david, the news of

this arrest, if that might derail these negotiations. it seems to be coming at least from the outside looking in, at a -- a really, you know, a tense moment, a precarious moment. >> the arrest is a precarious moment. so are the continued attacks that are going on in gaza on the eve of what's supposed to be the hostage release. katy, i would just say that in every middle east conflict that i've covered over the years right before a ceasefire, you often have an increase in activity. people want to get things done, achieve missions that may be impossible after the ceasefire starts. i remember that, and the 1973 war, the israeli attacks continued on the trapped egyptian army. i remember in 1982, so it's not all that unusual. i think for the families, this must be incredibly agonizing if

you can imagine the expectation you have that release is coming in 24 hours, and suddenly there's a no good explanation, and you can only imagine what that's like. i have been told by the negotiators for both israel and qatar that in this deal, the devil has been in the details. the particular details of how hostages are located. where are they? how will they be transported? will israel will allowed to use drones to watch the transport? where will they come out? all those little things that you might not think about end up being negotiated in very precise detail. i assume that's part of what's going on today is each of these deals is being worked out. >> i was speaking to todd snyder yesterday and he said that hamas has not been able to locate all of the children that some of the other groups that are operating within gaza have some of these

children hostages, and part of the issue was just going around and trying to find them. have you heard any more about that today out of jerusalem? >> no, but what i have heard is that that is hamas is saying, and so i think we have to take it with a grain of salt. it may be true that hamas has not been able to locate all the israeli children. they have also not promised to release all the children despite all the rumors that were swirling, but the fact remains that it is a great way to keep israel on tender hooks and to engage in the kind of psychological terror to say, we can't find the kids. so i don't know that anybody other than hamas leaders themselves have the full information. i wanted just to add one thing to what david just said. i wanted to note that missile attacks on israel are continuing today from the morning nonstop, in the north, from hamas in lebanon and in the south right now as i speak to you, and the other thing is "the wall street

journal" is citing an israeli source saying that hamas is refusing to allow the red cross to visit hostages who will remain. an estimated 180 to 190 israeli hostages will remain even after this full deal is completed. if 50 are released, and apparently that is one of the holdups. prime minister netanyahu made a really clear promise to israelis that that would happen. >> nbc news has not been able to verify that yet, but it's certainly one of the details out there. david ignatius, let me ask you about president biden's involvement in this. how integral has he been in these negotiations? >> so i think president biden and brett mcgirk, the director for the middle east have been crucial in encouraging the

parties to keep pushing in the contacts. bill burr's the director, and respected on all sides. he's been a sort of source of detailed information, but just -- just pushing the process forward. every time there's been a hangup, president biden's gotten on the phone with either the prime minister of qatar or the amir of qatar or sometimes with prime minister netanyahu to stress america's interest in this process going forward. i think the thing to note about president biden's role is that the pause in fighting has been central to u.s. interest in this hostage deal going forward. we want the hostages out, but we also want to see the pause as a way to have responding to international concern about the fighting in gaza. so president biden deserves significant credit. i think in the end what made

this negotiation possible was that qatar turned out to be a reliable mediator with hamas. nobody knew in the beginning whether that channel actually would work, and as they've said, they ran a trial run with the two americans who were released weeks ago, and that went smoothly, and they decided in that moment, okay. this is real. there is actual communication going through the channel, and then they had confidence to go forward. >> and waiting on the qataris who are holding a news conference any moment now. it's going to be translated into english and we'll bring you that as this is us watching the podium there and waiting for the officials to come out of ddoha. we'll bring you that once it does begin. let me ask you about the ceasefire. the administration, what do they want to see happen next? i know they are very much of the mind that they want more humanitarian aid to get in, more hostages to get out. what do they want to see happen next in gaza after this four-day ceasefire if it does begin?

>> so the idea of the ceasefire is to incentivize hamas to release as many hostages as possible, and the hamas claim they don't actually physically hold all the hostages near as i can tell is true. in this case, they have immediate access to 50. they can probably get another 20, but then there are something like let's say up to 30 more women and children that they don't have immediate control over. so the u.s. hopes, israel hopes that in the pause, they can move out and get control of these people so that they can then be released, and then there will be additional pauses. ideally the u.s. and israel hope that the releases would then continue and the male civilians and perhaps even to israeli military personnel, men and women both. the idea is keep the process going so as many hostages as possible get out. israel says that the war isn't

over. its mission of destroying hamas continues exactly as before. i think that's one of the most difficult issues here. hamas knows that the minute the process stops, it's back to deep in the tunnels in an israeli onslaught. does it mean they'll keep sending out hostages? i don't think anybody knows, but the basic design of this deal that i've written is more for more. release more hostages and you get more time. that's the deal and the hope that that will encourage hamas to actually find the hostages and release them. >> you just wonder what the end goal is for hamas, the end goal for israel is right now. they say eradicating hamas, but what about the day after? hamas wants to remain in a leadership position, unclear if that's even possible. obviously the israelis don't want it. the prime minister, noga, has vowed to continue this war after the ceasefire. does he have the public's

support? >> i think he does. >> so katy -- >> go ahead, noga. >> sorry. i think he does. i think israelis still remain under the shock of the initial hamas attack that killed more than 1,000 israelis and led to the kidnapping of these two -- close to 250. so i think he does, but i don't think he does right now, and i think what hamas is trying to do is to press him into a corner where he will have to either stop -- stop the hostage releases and confess to israelis that he's returning to the bombings while their loved ones remain in gaza. in some cases, conscript the soldiers or he'll have to simply stop the war and take into account that at least hamas' leadership has an escape route and it's guaranteed by qatar.

both of these options are pretty bad for netanyahu, pretty bad for the israeli people. >> noga and david, we have to leave it there. thank you for joining us this morning, especially this morning on the thanksgiving holiday here in the states. thank you guys. coming up next, what authorities are now saying about yesterday's fatal car explosion at the u.s./canada border in niagara falls. plus, what weather should you be planning this weekend? we have our holiday travel update. you won't want to miss that. we're back in 60 seconds. te you won't want to miss that. we're back in 60 seconds the subway series? it's the perfect menu lineup. just give us a number, we got the rest. number three? the monster. six? the boss. fifteen? titan turkey. number one? the philly. oh, yeah, you probably don't want that one. look, i'm not in charge of naming the subs.

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last night with minimal disruption. that being said, when you are preparing to go back home after the holiday, officials are warning people to be ready for what could be the busiest travel day of the whole season. with tens of millions of americans on the move for thanksgiving, traffic jams, airport lines, and packed rest stops are testing travelers' patience. >> this is the biggest i've ever seen in 20 years of travel. >> reporter: in the northeast, many anxious families watched the wicked weather and their flight connections. >> we're hoping we get out tonight, but we'll see. >> reporter: more than 55 million americans are expected to travel at least 50 miles from home over the holiday according to aaa. >> it's just a lot. a lot of people, a lot of -- it's just chaos. >> reporter: in cities like new york, los angeles, and charlotte, just getting to the airport was half the battle. >> we literally took an hour to go a quarter of a mile. >> it's been busy. i tell you. it's been, like, three or four wrecks.

>> reporter: but there's good news too. less pain at the pump with drivers paying 35 cents per gallon less than last year. for a lower stress option, amtrak says ride its rails. the record-setting travel all leading up to sunday which the tsa says could be the busiest day this week with nearly 3 million passengers at airports nationwide. >> i'm thinking i'm not going to make it back sunday night probably. >> reporter: longtime travelers say a positive outlook can go a long way. >> i just say, hey. we're all here for the same thing, and i just wish us all, like, safe travel. >> reporter: that's a good outlook, and by the way, if you are hitting the road today on the holiday, aaa warns the roads still can get packed. they recommend if you can driving before 10:00 a.m. or after 5:00 as long as it doesn't put you at risk of missing the big meal. back to you. >> maggie, thank you very much. joining us now is meteorologist michelle grossman.

coming in this morning, the sun was coming up in new york city. it looked like a gorgeous day here in new york. has it remained so, and what's the rest of the country looking like this weekend? >> hey there, katy. happy thanksgiving. we look really, really good. i'm so happy and thankful to give you this forecast because across the country we're looking very, very quiet, new york city included. i'll give you that parade forecast in a moment. it's under way in a few minutes. lots of sunshine across the country. temperatures not that bad. below freezing in the plains. the big story will be the winter storm in the rockies. some spots could see over 18 inches of snow. we'll add to that snow pack there. ski lovers probably happy, but it'll make for difficult travels as we go throughout thanksgiving day. the other spot will be the gulf coast, and that will bring the chance of very light showers, but that is about it. in terms of the parade, we're looking good. you need the coat and the gloves, the scarf because w're

looking at temperatures in the mid-40s at this point. it's not too windy to prevent those balloons from flying. so really a nice forecast for the parade as well. now talking about that snow, we have 7 million people impacted along the inner mountain west to the rockies and we have winter storm warnings. that's in the pink. winter storm watches are in the blue, and also winter storm advisoies and we're going to see quite a bit of snow in some spots where you see the purples and pinks. that's where you see the heaviest amounts of snow. locally, you can8 inches of snow. that's kind of excitheref you are looking to ski rougut this winter, and you want to add to that snow pack. so as we go throughout the day, we're looking at this area of low pressure bringing that snow. it's going to bring heavy bands of snow throughout the day. we're going to have a white thanksgiving and extend into friday. it'll blanket the rockies. temperatures will be really, really cold and windy too, and we'll end it here, katy because another quiet day on friday.

cold throughout new england, and showers in florida tomorrow, but that is about it in addition to that rockies storm. back to you. >> michelle, thank you very much. officials say there are no signs of terrorism in that deadly explosion that killed two people near the u.s./canada border yesterday. the speeding car and fiery crash sparked a multi-agency investigation and caused big travel delays before the fbi turned it over to local police. joining us now from buffalo, new york is nbc news correspondent melissa pera. obviously in the moment we're living in when everybody saw this crash including officials, people got really nervous that it might have been something nefarious. the fbi has concluded its investigation. what do they believe happened? >> reporter: absolutely. well, katy, i want to walk you through what people were seeing and hearing on the ground here when it happened. this was around 11:30 yesterday morning. we're about as close as you can get to where this happened, rainbow bridge right behindme.

this connects the united states and canada here in niagara falls. at the time, people had very few details except for the fact that there was a loud boom, an explosion, a massive debris field. so of course, that's going to raise a lot of alarm, a lot of questions. the fbi and customs border patrol immediately started working together, and so both countries on high alert. we saw regional travel, these regional airports that were impacted with flight restrictions. we saw nearby bridges that were closed as a result of this, and there was a lot of theories, a lot of speculation that ended up being untrue. it was about six hours after it happened the fbi posted this on their twitter account saying they had concluded their investigation. i'm going to read a portion of their stament for you. they said, quote, a search of the scene revealo explosive materials, no terrorism nexus was identified and the matter has been turned over to the niagara falls police department as a traffic investigation. so katy, here's what officials had told us so far. a car from the u.s. side of the border traveling at a fast rate

of speed -- hopefully you can look at this video in a moment because you'll see in that video how fast that car was traveling and not just how fast, but also how high it was as it was airborne. there is an 8-foot fence behind me and you can see that car clears that fence as it is traveling. it exploded upon impact once it hit the median there. you see it on your screen, clearing that very high fence. apparently from the governor, she said that the pieces of that car scattered across 13, 14 different booths. in fact, our team just got off the phone with the local police department here. they said that the niagara falls police department crash management team is still on scene clearing the debris that was leftover from yesterday morning. to conclude here, this is still a sad event because two people did lose their lives, the two people that were inside of that car. we know there was one injury from a u.s. customs and border patrol officer. they were taken to the hospital with nonlife-threatening

injuries. they have been released since. >> thank you very much. coming up, what the israel/hamas war is doing to college campuses. we've seen the confrontations and now some students are saying they're trying to find common ground. what does that look like? but first, what qatar says about the hostage release it helped negotiate and what the israeli government says it's still trying to work out. a government spokesperson joins me in just a moment. a governmen me in just a moment.

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the hostage release which was hoped to start today is delayed with the israeli government saying it won't begin until tomorrow at the earliest. so what exactly is behind the wait? joining us now is israeli government spokesperson ilan levy. thank you very much for being on with us. can you give us any detail on what's being worked on right now and why hostages won't be released until tomorrow at the earliest? >> hamas is continuing to psychologically terrorize the families of those families. they have been kept for nearly 50 days now in inhumane conditions, and every moment that hamas continues to hold the hostages in the dark and to keep their families in the dark is an ongoing crime against humanity. israel has already approved the details of the framework that would see our hostages beginning with women and children released from hamas captivity inside the gaza strip, and we're hoping that we can begin to put that into effect tomorrow. they have been suffering in those inhumane conditions for

too long. we want to bring all of them home and we want to make sure that no one is left behind. >> let me ask you again though, can you give us any detail about what's holding it up specifically? is it a disagreement over drones, over what time this is going to happen, over the red cross? >> the contacts are ongoing. i cannot comment on sensitive negotiations, but this is a deal that has already been approved by the israeli government and we are ready to put it into practice. >> "the wall street journal" is reporting that hamas is now denying according to an israeli official that they cite -- that -- hamas is denying the red cross. can you confirm that? >> there really is no limit to hamas' inhumanity for 50 days now. they have been holding those hostages without any access to the red cross. we're talking about children who had to crawl from under their parents' bodies, people who had limbs blown off. they haven't given them that basic humanitarian mercy in full violation of humanitarian law.

their families are rightfully terrified for them, and we are demanding -- this has been our demand from the moment our people were abducted they must be given access to the red cross. they must receive that medical attention, and we must find out what their medical conditions are. >> so is that a sticking point? are they denying the red cross entry? >> we are demanding that they give access to the red cross to our hostages. there is no excuse. >> are they refusing? >> i have not heard that specifically, but again, these are sensitive negotiations and i can't get into detail about them. >> let me ask you about the arrest or the detainment of the gaza -- the al-shifa gaza hospital medical director. why was he detained? >> i haven't seen official confirmation of, that but that would make sense that the director of a hospital that sat on top of a hamas terror compound would be brought in for questioning. i'm sure that you've broadcast those images from the cctv

cameras on october 7th when they abducted people through the hospital through the front door in broad daylight and you can see the doctors continuing to chat with hamas terrorists. the doctors who have been telling the international media for the last month that hamas did not have a presence inside the hospital have been lying to the world. they have been taking the whole world for a ride. whether they're simply cowed by hamas because of its violent regime, or they have been complicit with it. we're demanding answers from the people who have been quoting them, and the international institutions and global agencies for the people that have to answer now. they didn't say anything with a terror compound running under their noses and they need to make sure they do not continue to violate humanitarian law in that way.

>> they're working under a regime there in gaza. do you expect that they have the freedom to be free with the israelis about what's going on in the hospital, that they can do that for their own safety? >> they've certainly not been free to speak freely, and i think it's important to remember when you are speaking to people inside the gaza strip, whether or not they openly sympathize with hamas, which unfortunately many of them do, they're operating under an authoritarian regime. they know that they are not free to tell the full story and it's important when you listen to them speaking as well the know that they're not free. now many of the doctors in the hospital, this is a matter of record have openly sympathized with hamas and openly praised the october 7th atrocities and it's difficult to believe that doctors and nurses can praise those sorts of barbaric atrocities that were perpetrated on october 7th, but you're absolutely right. even if some of them were not, they're not free to speak openly and it's important that we get to the bottom of the truth.

>> let me ask you about what's going to happen after all of this is over? the israeli government's refusing to say. the americans want to see a two-state solution. is that being discussed at all? >> you know, we're still in very early stages where we have body bags of unidentifiable body parts from the october 7th massacre that we are still identifying. that's where we are. we're focusing on the moment of destroying the army of terror that perpetrated the october 7th massacre and we're hoping what will happen is it'll give security for the people of israel and new opportunities for palestinians if they understand that terrorism is a dead end. we think that what has to happen in the gaza strip the day after hamas -- i wish it were next week, but this is going to take longer. there's going to have to be demilitarization, but also deradicalization. we cannot have another generation of palestinian children being brought up to embrace jihad and those are values they need to be taught.

the state of israel is here to stay. >> do you think dropping missiles on thousands of children will have the effect of de-radicalizing this? >> you seem to have me confused with someone who wanted this war or started this war. hamas started this war. we didn't want it. we don't want it. we want to end this war in a way that ensure that is hamas can never butcher, behead, and rape our people like it did on october 7th because if we abandon our hostages and leave hamas in power, that's just a guarantee that we're going to be facing another round of violence and with hamas that is more emboldened. if we do not finish the job, there will be serious consequences of israeli inaction, and even though we do not want to be in this situation, we are fighting for our survival and we're fighting to destroy the terror regime that has kept the people in the

gaza strip under its oppressive terrorist thumb for too long. we hope after hamas is gone, we can empower the voices who understand that something very different has to happen for sustainable peace in the region. >> i take it you don't want to be in this war and i understand it. i do also take it that millions of gazans don't want to be in the war either and they didn't have a choice in this. they haven't had elections there in 17 years. eylon, thank you very much. we appreciate you coming on, and good luck with the hostage release. we hope it goes smoothly. >> let's all pray for good news. thank you. coming up next, we've seen the confrontations, the fights, the threats of violence. what we have not seen are those trying to find common ground on college campuses specifically. what does that look like? and because it is thanksgiving, we will take a hard turn and pause for some happier content including the debate over canned or fresh cranberries. why can't it be both, people? h cranberries. why can't it be both, people blendjets legendary

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we've seen a number of sometimes violent confrontations on college campuses over the israel/hamas war leaving a lot of college students confused, angry, and scared about their well-being on campus. specifically at cornell university in utate new york where the department of education has opene a civil rights investigation after a student was arreste allegedly posting violent, anti-semitic threats online.

abc's antonia hillton sat down with the student there is. >> reporter: for weeks now, cornell university's campus has been divided. heartbreak over the war in israel and gaza is transforming campus life. >> we're getting threats on campus, so how can you mourn? >> reporter: we asked students from the jewish organization and students for justice in palestine if they wanted to meet together. both groups declined. >> if you have family and friends in the region, it's not an intellectual exercise to debate and discuss. >> i don't know what both sides sounds like. i don't know what it looks like. i don't think it's possible in this moment. >> reporter: jewish students like zoe and simone who are the descendents of the holocaust are terrified of people tearing down the posters of the hostages. >> every time i see one vandalized, it's like a knife in my chest. i saw one as i was walking home from class one day and they crossed out the four people, the

name, a family, and it said free palestine. palestine will not be freed by vandalizing hostage posters. >> reporter: this student says some people denied her people exist. they are grandparents were expelled from their homes in 1948, and the residents live in rafah city at a refugee camp. >> my family is still there and i grew up hearing the stories of what israeli militia did to them, the family members they killed and how they got away with it, and one of may aunts, she witnessed a bomb, an israeli air strike drop in front of a bus right in front of her, and it's been hard to reach out with them the service being cut out so frequently. it's hard for them to get access to water, food, electricity. >> my cousin is a paratrooper in the israeli defense forces. he's 20 years old and within the first day of the war, 20 of his

friends were killed or taken hostage. >> how would you describe the climate right now, what you are seeing and hearing on campus? >> i've noticed a lot more stares, a lot more unease just around me being around. there was an instance where i noticed someone taking a video of me from his car, and, like, he wasn't even really trying to hide it. i wasn't doing anything. i was just walking out of friday prayer. >> it's been immensely challenging to be on this campus when i'm seeing my peers march down the streets where we have to walk to get to class every day chanting things like from the river to the sea, which we see as a call for ethnic cleansing people of jewish people. >> we all condemned anti-semitism because we believe it is abhorrent and it has a deeply violent history. >> some of those classmates tell me that some of the chants and phrases like from the river to the sea to mean the extermination of jews.

what do you have to say to them? >> everybody in this position, regardless of ethnicity and race should live under one secular state. that's what it meant, and a question i have to ask people, where is it palestinians shouldn't be safe? >> i want peace in the middle east too just as much as anyone else. my problem is with that slogan in specific, not whatever message anyone thinks they're sharing with it because hamas has used it. it's been appropriated by a terrorist organization. so you can't say it anymore and think that it means peace. >> what would you say to a palestinian person who said that when they hear the herd zionist or zionism, they think it means me and my family need to leave the region and we have to leave our families? >> so the definition of zionism right is the termination of the jewish people to their ancestral homeland. saying that we have a right to a land and a right to exist as a people is not saying we agree

with the right-wing government in israel right now. >> cornell has released several statements in response to student fears. increasing security and promising new programs to fight anti-semitism, and to bring in experts in jewish history. >> the university's taking it very seriously. we've seen support on a federal and state level which is really comforting, really nice. >> as people who are muslim or arab on campus, the administration has a bias. >> reporter: they did not mention islamaphobia or palestinian people. they tell abc news they condemn all forms of discriminatory bias. >> what would it take to bring the temperature on campus down to maybe just slightly open the door to either healthier dialogue or more dialogue here on campus? >> i would really encourage students who are interested in dialogue to reach out to me, to each other. i think it's something that's really scary and really hard.

>> for no one on this campus to use that slogan again. i think it's too painful for jewish students to hear. >> until i can be seen as a human, and until my humanity of being a muslim and being a palestinian is seen first, then it's hard to have a conversation. >> i know going in if that's the first question that i'm being asked, did i condemn the killing of innocent civilians that i'm not a terrorist, they can't see past my scarf. still ahead, what is on sale? our business and data reporter is here to walk you through the best black friday deals, but first, a thanksgiving shoutout from sergeant first class natasha handy with the u.s. army's 173rd airborne brigade. >> i would like to send a special shoutout to juanita as well as jordan handy in oakland, california. i love you and miss you dearly and i'll see you for christmas. y and i'll see you for christmas positive breast cancer is overwhelming.

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. whether they are sliced from a can, simmered down in a melange of sugar, molasses, and wine or baked in a pie, cranberries are essential to thanksgiving. we sent harry smith to get bogged down in the debate over how to serve it best. >> reporter: every fall, usually just after the first frost,

cranberry farmers know it's time, time to harvest. >> it's one of the most spectacular harvests. i like to say when i'm in here the cranberries are giving me a million little hugs. >> reporter: it's tart on the tongue. >> i'm like a cranberry. i'm tart at heart. >> reporter: her family has been cultivating cranberries on cape cod since the 1800s. harvest is part of her heritage. >> they need to go this way. >> reporter: that heritage drew her back to the farm. >> i went to new york city and i loved it. they said, if you love the farm, you'll come back to it. and that's what i did. >> reporter: cranberries are american originals, native to

the continent like concord grapes and blueberries, but those others don't engender the kind of controversy that accompanies thanksgiving dinner. have there been family disputes with i like the can, no i want it this way, no i want it that way? >> people have the ones that they love. so not so much a dispute, but more they are passionate about their cranberry sauce that they love. >> reporter: a survey says the jellied version from a can is the overwhelming favorite. but most of these end up as juice. there is little dispute over the cranberry's contribution to a cosmo or to whatever she's having. harry smith, nbc news, rochester, massachusetts. >> you cannot have turkey without cranberry sauce, mashed potatoes, gravy, put it between two slices of bread.

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good to be with you for another hour. i'm katy tur. the white house says the deal to release 50 israeli hostages, including an american toddler, will not start until tomorrow at the earliest. what is really going on? our reporters join us with the latest in a moment. we're also waiting on the qataris to hold a news conference with an update. officials in doha have been acting as intermediaries. as the hge