good day, i'm josé diaz-balart. it is 1:00 p.m. eastern. i'm very grateful for the opportunity to be with you this hour.

we're following breaking news from the middle east after a delay, there are new details on when the pause in fighting will begin, and which hostages are going to be released first. now, back at home, a fiery explosion at a border crossing with canada sparking terror concerns on one of the busiest travel days of the year. we'll tell you what we have learned so far. also american troops stationed all over the world ready to deploy at a moment's notice. we'll take a look at how the military is making sure they aren't forgotten on this thanksgiving holiday. and we begin with the first real sliver of hope in the israel-hamas war. 13 women and children are set to reunite with their loved ones in a matter of just hours. according to qatar's foreign ministry, a humanitarian pause will begin tomorrow morning local time with the first batch of hostages to be freed later that afternoon. a list of names has already been

provided. the president was just asked who could be among those children. take a listen. >> i'm not prepared to give you an update until it's done. >> are you expecting that the little 3-year-old girl to be among the hostages released? >> until then, israeli troops are still on the ground in gaza, and we've got newly released video from idf soldiers making their way through al-shifa hospital, and what the idf is claiming are hamas's tunnel network right underneath that hospital. nbc news has not confirmed that claim. the director was arrested while evacuating. back with us now from tel aviv is nbc news correspondent david noriega. it's great seeing you. what do we know about the people who are going to be fist released from gaza to israel? >> reporter: jose, we don't know their identities yet. the israeli government knows

their identities and the families of those hostages have been informed by the israeli government they should be prepared for these reunifications tomorrow. we do know that it's women and children, and it includes some complete family units, according to the qatari foreign ministry which helped broker this deal. the priority was hostages with urgent humanitarian concerns. that's what we know so far. jose. >> david, what do we know about the hospital, al-shifa hospital, what's happening there in the detaining of its director? >> right, what we know is that the idf has confirmed that it arrested the director of the hospital. as you pointed out, they say that this is the result of the -- their claim that hamas was using the hospital as a command center. they've released some visual evidence to support this. hamas, however, denies it, and they say that that evidence does not actually support the claim that the hospital was being used as a command center. additionally, i spoke with senior hamas official on the phone earlier this evening.

he said that israel had committed a war crime by arresting the director of this hospital. hamas has also said that this arrest took place while the director in addition to other medical personnel and patients from the hospital were being evacuated along the designated evacuation route from northern gaza to southern gaza at an israeli check point. the u.n., specifically the world health organization should have safeguarded the director of the hospital and the other medical personnel in question. they say they will stop collaborating with the w.h.o. in gaza as a result of this incident, jose. >> david, until that pause takes effect tomorrow, and we're coming up on 8:03 p.m. your time, the fighting has not stopped. >> reporter: no, the fighting has not stopped. i think by some measures it's intensified. not only that, this cease fire is expected to last four days. it could be extended day by day, if hamas is willing to release

more hostages and israel is willing to concurrently release more prisoners. that's what the qataris hope for. diplomatically they want this to be the sort of spring board for a longer lasting truce, even ideally, they say, a final agreement that will end this conflict. that's not what we're hearing from either of the two parties actually engaged in the conflict. i think it's a reasonable expectation that this cease fire will take place. it might be longer than four days, but it will eventually end and the war will resume. jose. >> david noriega in tel aviv for us. thank you so very much. joining us now is retired u.s. army general steven twitty. he is also an msnbc news analyst. it's great seeing you. i very much appreciate your time. just thinking from a logistics standpoint, can you walk us through what day one is going to look like tomorrow? i guess 9:00 a.m. eastern time tomorrow. this is going to start taking effect? >> yeah, so there's a lot of

logistics behind releasing these hostages. first of all, you have to establish safe passage corridors to allow the hostages to pass through. there needs to be escorts and apparently the red cross will conduct the escorting so linking up and escorting them to theling up point. the link up point is critical because you have to have security around the link up point. then there has to be vetting procedures at the link up point to ensure that the hostages that are released are the hostages that the israelis think they are and vice versa with the israelis releasing the hostages over to hamas. then once that happens, there has to be escorts from the link up point into israel and vice versa, and it's got to be security, and then these hostages have to go a medical facility where they are checked

to ensure that they're okay or if they need further assistance in terms of medical aid, and then there will be some debriefing from an intelligence standpoint to see if we can gather further intelligence on and on and on. but this is not just a release and forget. there's a lot of details that must go into making this all happen tomorrow. >> in order for everything to happen, there can be no kind of big changes or substantial differences during that time period. i mean, yesterday the prime minister of israel was asked about what he would see as, for example, a breach or a red line. i want you to listen to what he said. >> they have a very clear instruction, the troops, if you're facing something life-threatening, act. it's not a matter of policy. it's part of the troops' instructions. we're not giving them a blank check with which they can do whatever they want.

of course not. we are going to operate wisely, and when the time that we've allotted to this will end, we will resume the war, maybe we'll be forced to do it much earlier. >> do you see this as a warning? i mean, how easily could this whole thing fall apart? >> no, what i see this -- the guidance is being good guidance to provide to the troops on the battlefield. we have to remember that during these four days that the israeli troops, they'll be in a period of vulnerability and high risk because there is essentially no fiing during this time frame. this will allow hamas to regroup, rearm, consolidate, reorganize, and so there is a period of vulnerability here that the israeli soldiers will face as these four days go by, and they must be prepared to act

if there's a threat out there, and they can't go back to their and the ask mother may i. they must be able to act and act accordingly as things transpire on the battlefield. >> yeah, how -- i guess how do you see this pause affecting specifically, for example, the troops that are there, and certainly, of course, we're also talking about the, you know, hundreds of thousands of people, the civilians that are also all around that have been directly impacted by this? >> yeah, so you just made an important distinction. so there's cease fire, which we talked about previously, and then there's pause too distinct. in a cease fire, you're putting down your arms, is it mutually agreed upon you will put down your arms, no fighting at all. in a pause, that gives you latitude to establish safe

corridors, but fight in other places. so i don't see the israeli forces stopping the fight totally. remember, their mission is to destroy hamas, and that's their intended goal, and so they will pause in places where they need to pause for safe passage, and fight in places that does not require that they pause, such as down south. you know that hamas now moved terrorist groups into the south. israel plans to go after them, so i see them continuing that fight in the southern part of gaza. >> and just wondering, general, what message or what reaction other bad actors in the region will take from this pause? and i'm thinking, for example, just this morning we had news of multiple attack drones launched from yemen, and they were shot down by the u.s. is this something that will --

is there a message there for these bad actors? >> absolutely. you heard me talk about the vulnerability and risk that also extends to hezbollah up north, which is a proxy of iran. it extends to the west bank where you have palestinian terrorist groups. it extends down a thousand miles away from israel in yemen where you have the houthis. about 100,000-man force with a stated goal of destroying israel. that's their slogan. and destroying america. and as you know, they've been provocative since this war has started, and i continue to see that they will keep this up to try and draw america into this fight and others. >> and so yeah, i mean, i was just thinking that, you know, speaking with courtney kube just this weeks, she was, you know,

kind of reminding us that there have been more than 70, 7-0 attacks on towards, you know, on american forces in the area since the 17th of october. this is 70 different attacks. general, how does the united states deal with that? it seems as though there's not a lot of messaging that the united states has been giving by counter attacking that has been very successful to this point. >> yeah, well, one way you deal with it is not to get drawn into the hype of this. and i got to tell you, i applaud the commander of u.s. central command general eric ka ril la. i also applaud our secretary of defense. he knows the area very well. he used to command central command as well, and they're not giving in and being over provocative with counter

attacks. it's been pretty -- a good -- pretty good attacks in response to these attacks by the houthis. i think the way you play this is you don't let them draw you into this conflict, and i think that's the way they've been going about it. >> lieutenant general steph twitty. it's always a pleasure to see you. on this day i am grateful that you were able to be with us on the program, appreciate it, sir. >> happy thanksgiving, jose. >> like wise and same to you, sir. and turning now to niagara falls where i've got to tell you, i don't know if you've seen the images, we're learning more about yesterday's car crash at the rainbow bridge border crossing. i mean, just take a look at this. and if you're listening to us on the radio, i can tell you that this was just a massive ball of fire that, you know, that erupted from this car that was

apparently going at a super high rate of speech. authorities are still trying to identify the two people killed in the wreck. they believe one victim may have been a buffalo area businessman and that he might have stopped at a casino shortly before the accident. niagara falls police are now investigating it as a traffic incident. and joining us now with the very latest is marissa parra live in niagara falls. this was just like -- this vehicle was traveling at a super high rate of speed. >> reporter: yeah, and if you watch the video, it's a very short clip, but that video shows it was not only traveling at a high rate of speed, it was also very high in the air. we're just outside rainbow bridge where this happened about 24 hours ago. you can imagine, especially when there was no details whatsoever, except for an explosion outside of a border crossing here. the fbi immediately stepped in with their investigation with customs and border patrol, but it only took about six hours

into that investigation for the fbi to release a statement saying they had concluded their part of the investigation that they had decide thd did not appear to be a terrorist event. they were turning it back over to local authorities, the niagara police department who corroborated that a couple of hours ago with their own statement saying exactly that. i will say that nbc, as you mentioned, has been told by investigators that they're looking into the possibility that maybe this couple had visited a casino before hand. maybe they had tickets to a rock concert later that same night, and i think because of the complexity of the investigation, i mean, that car unfortunately just in small pieces, they're still being gathered behind me, by the way. so this information will take time because it is complex. so of course given the fact that they have said that they don't believe this was a terrorist event, the big question is why did this happen? was this a vehicular malfunction? was this still somehow intentional for some reason, or was there some sort of medical event? i think either way the swift reaction that we saw from the fbi and the swift reaction when it comes to transportation on

both the u.s. and the canada side, jose, really just a testament to how on edge everyone has been, especially on the day before thanksgiving, which we know is a very busy travel day. >> marissa parra, thank you so very much. appreciate it. up next, chilly temperatures and heavy snow among other things for some people for this thanksgiving holiday weekend. we'll tell you what we can expect and what we need to know. and before we go to a break, a thanksgiving message from some of our troops with the 173rd airborne brigade serving in italy. >> hi, i'm special rus coe knee here in italy. i'd like to say happy thanksgiving to my mom and dad back home. >> hi, i'm special willis. i'm from atlanta, georgia, want to give a shoutout to my mom and happy thanksgiving. me to see the bigger picture. heart failure and seemingly unrelated symptoms like carpal tunnel syndrome, shortness of breath,

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president biden who is spending the holiday in massachusetts. the white house said he called military members earlier this morning to thank them for their service. earlier today the president and first lady visited first responders working today at a nantucket firehouse. the bidens also did a quick phone interview with nbc's al roker. why? because you have to do this before the start of the macy's thanksgiving day parade. the president called on americans to come together. take a listen. >> i think we have to remind ourselves how blessed we are to live in the greatest nation on the face of the earth. that's real, we've made extraordinary progress. nothing beyond our capacity if we work together. today is about coming together, giving thanks for this country we call home, and thanks to all the firefighters, police officers, first responders and our troops, some of whom are stationed abroad. i've never been more optimistic, al, so i -- we're delighted to be with you. >> on this very american holiday

of giving thanks, it's also vital to remember the men and women who are serving in uniform to protect us all. nbc's meagan fitzgerald takes a look at how some of our troops are celebrating thanksgiving overseas. >> reporter: they're constantly training to stay sharp and on the top of their game. always ready to be instantly deployed at a moment's notice when duty calls, rifles assigned, weapons assembled, bags packed. these men and women are u.s. para troopers with the 173rd airborne brigade stationed in northern italy. >> we're constantly preparing for what's next. >> reporter: but these troops are more than just soldiers. they're family. >> working together every day, we live together in the bar rag barracks so it brings us closer together. >> reporter: that togetherness is palpable on thanksgiving when loved ones are celebrating the holiday thousands of miles away. here at the del din army base, a

big turkey feast provides a small taste of home. >> these guys are really eating this turkey up. >> corn bread and greens. >> mac and cheese. >>. >> reporter: the soldiers personally served by their leaders in full dress uniform. >> what can i get you? >> don't worry about that, we're holding up the line. >> there you go, i want some ham. >> reporter: a gesture of gratitude for their service. >> a little bit of protein on there. >> thank you very much. happy thanksgiving to you. >> reporter: with all the tasty trimmings and thanksgiving traditions, it feels familiar. >> feels like home. >> reporter: creating this meal is a mission in itself, a labor of love by a team of 80 working tirelessly preparing 1,000 pounds of potatoes, 59 turkeys and 100 different sides, and for dessert, all american classics, including this cake in the shape of a turkey, all displayed on the most special table of all,

these empty seats pay tribute to the fallen whose sacrifice is not forgotten on this day. this brigade is here to support america's nato allies across europe. they're highly trained to parachute into combat when needed. >> the turbulence in the world today has made the role of a response force more important than ever. >> reporter: these troops constantly reminded of the dangers, but on this thanksgiving, a moment to enjoy with our brothers and sisters in uniform. and for a grateful nation to give thanks. >> i want to thank meagan fitzgerald for that story. appreciate that. tense of millions of people are gathering with their families to celebrate thanksgiving. some of them are traveling to their destinations today. joining us now with a look at the holiday forecast, nbc news's meteorologist michelle grossman. always a great pleasure to see you on this day. i'm grateful to get a chance to

work with you. what can we expect for the rest of this weekend? >> hi, jose, you know how much i love you, and i'm always happy to see you. big smile on my face whenever i see you. and overall weather-wise, we're looking really, really good, because we are very quiet across the country. we do have a big storm in the rockies. it's going to be tough travel for some getting to and from relatives' houses. 18 inches of snow in some parts. along the eastern seaboard we're looking good, nice and quiet, it's going to be mild down south. in the southwest we're looking good. in terms of that winter storm, we're looking at up to 18 inches in some spots. we have all sorts of winter alerts, even the central plains d new mexico we have some alerts. we have winter storm watches, winter storm warnings, winter weather advisories. this will be over the next several days. 7 million people impacted by these winter alerts. we're going to see quite a bit of snow, anywhere from 1, 3, 6, but even up to 18 inches in some spots. that's where you see the pink

and also the purple. the highest elevations of the mountains there. i do think that is good news. they want to build that snow pack for the winter. this is why. we have a cold blast. it's arctic air coming down from canada. it's setting the stage for this winter weather. we're looking at temperatures really frigid in the northern plains, into the intermountain west, even the central plains in some spots. rapid city today 30 degrees, 12 degrees below what is typical for this time of the year. below freezing in minneapolis, just above freezing in casper and chilly in denver, 39 degrees. they were so warm yesterday, a big change today. tomorrow we're looking at temperatures only in the teens in cheyenne, 14 degrees, 25 in pueblo. that's going to set the stage for more snow. we're looking at a white thanksgiving in portions of the l rockies. that rockies store is going to stick around tomorrow. notice the rest of the country looking good too. very quiet in the northern plains, the upper midwest, the great lakes, ohio valley, the southwest, we're looking good. jose, you could see a shower or two tomorrow in florida, but in the northeast we're looking blustery and cold. temperatures only in the 40s. that takes us to saturday, we're

going to keep it on the quieter side. still snowy in the central plains. jose, i hope you get to see your girls today, and i hope i get to see you soon. >> i hope so. i'm certainly looking forward to it. what are you getting ready for tonight? >> so i am just headed out at 2:00 to my twin sister's house, she's doing the whole thanksgiving thing and back to work tomorrow morning. >> great, michelle grossman, love to you and your family, thank you very much. >> thanks, bye. up next, the political fallout from the war in the middle east. how voters are split over what they think the u.s. should or should not be doing to help. e d. ! ♪♪ can't stop adding stuff to your cart? get the bank of america customized cash rewards card, choose the online shopping category and earn 3% cash back. [sneeze] dude you coming? because the only thing dripping should be your style. plop plop fizz fizz with alka-seltzer plus cold & flu relief.

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28 past the hour, new york city mayor eric adams has been accused of sexual assault. the legal action filed on wednesday night details how mayor adams allegedly sexually salted a woman while they were both working for the city in 1993. the accuser's name has been withheld. the accuser seeking $5 million in relief. city hall spokesperson says adams does not know the accuser, and of course denies the claim. turning back now to the israel-hamas war a deal is back in place to pause the violence temporarily, and release some of the hostages starting tomorrow. joining us now, msnbc political contributors, matthew dowd and victoria defrancesco soto, dean

of the clinton school of public school at the university of arkansas. i thank you both for being with us. matthew, let's start with you. the impact that the war in between israel and hamas is having politically here at home, what has that impact been for the president? >> well, i think the honest answer is we don't know fully yet. a lot will depend what impact it has on president biden positive or negative about what the end result of this will be. but i think all of us have to acknowledge that the american public has had a level of exhaustion related to all of the different conflicts and wars that we've been involved in. we take the present circumstances in the middle east where millions are being spent. you take ukraine, which has now gone on a few years where billions have been spent, and then you take 20 years of afghanistan and iraq where

trillions were spent, and i think that we -- i don't think we can properly gauge the level of the united -- the u.s. citizens' desire to sort of get through this and get out to the otherwise because that i have been in it for a couple of decades now, and i think they're just tired. >> and i mean, victoria, earlier this week an nbc news poll found that 55% of registered voters are in favor of me military aid and f to el. 58% favor humanitarian aid to gaza. it seems many americans are kind of split over this issue. and victoria, what we're talking about here and when we hear the numbers, i mean, it's -- as you were saying, matthew, it's millions, billions, and trillions of dollars being spent. >> there's a war weariness in general that is contextualized

by over 20 years, and that's really the root cause of why you're seeing some segments of the american population turn towards isolationism, and we've seen that really embodied with donald trump. now, in terms of this snapshot, this moment of time, who knows where we'll be in a month, two months, six months, but right now we see general split in terms of providing more aid for israel, getting more involved, but when we start to parse those numbers, jose, and earlier this week we looked at a poll that came out by nbc that parsed the numbers by age, by age demographics, and there you see this incredible split by generation where folks who are 65 and above, they're all in. over 75% say let's get more aid for international, to support the middle east, ukraine, young folks, though, in particular when it comes to the middle east say no. we do not want to support any further aid. we just want to stay still, and that's really in the 18 to 24

demographic. so this is going to be challenging, if we continue with these struggles going into the 2024, but for right now, this snapshot in time, it's split, but keep an eye on that youth demographic. >> and matthew, turning now to the border, in that same nbc poll, 74% ofoters said they want border security. the former president, who is right now the lead candidate to be the republican nominee for 2024asaid that, you know, they're going to -- i he gets back at white house, it's going to be massive deportations, people put into camps awaiting deportation. this subject is so volatile, you know, and i'm just wondering, matthew, the semantical use of

immigration but also the reality of it, what kind of use is that going to have in 2024? >> victoria and i have been on the this conversation. the fascinating thing to me is the american public is in yes, let's have a strong border. let's have a heavy hand on enforcement, let's make sure the process is clear and clean and precise, but also a compassionate heart in what people are going through and what they have, and so that's where the american public is. the problem for joe biden is his strategy and his policies don't lend their -- don't lend themselves to build a wall or keep them out strategy, and in my view, that's not beneficial to most americans in our country, because we benefitted by immigration and especially in the type of economy we're in today. i think it's problematic because everything that donald trump says and the republicans will say we'll relate it to the border. they're going to relate crime and violence to the border.

they're going to relate the economy to the border, and all of that to the border, and even though a majority of voters are compassionate. the problem for joe biden is they don't have a clear-cut narrative to rely on to convince the american public they're doing the right thing. >> yeah, and i mean, victoria, it's always -- it always strikes me as how easy and quickly when this issue is discussed, it is the dehumanization of what is behind all of this, and i'm just wondering, victoria, why is it so difficult for this issue to be front and center, an issue about humanity? >> so, the academic answer here is that our brains respond to negative information, to threat, and to fear. we also respond to positive

emotion and to love and to hope, but if you put both of them on a balance, the negativity, the anxiety, the fear are going to win out. they're going to grab us a lot more than the positivity. when we're talking about immigration and presented with frames such as those that donald trump and others have presented about these are folks who are responsible for the drugs in our country, these are rapists, these are killers, these are bad people, the folks start to get anxious and fearful, and that ability to have empathy and to see the humanity, to see that these people are here coming to the country for a better life, coming to this country in tribute, it's a tug of war. what we need to do is figure out how to bring back the humanity, and there's just no other way around it of going back to the person, the stories, relating it back to who we are, jose. because with the exception of native americans in this

country, we are all immigrants. so it's trying to figure that out while also finding a policy solution of how we can moderate that flow coming across the border. >> matthew dowd and victoria defrancesco soto, thank you very much. happy thanksgiving to both of you. really appreciate it. the white house has confirmed that the president and first lady along with the vice president and second gentleman will travel to georgia next week to pay their respects to rosalynn carter. memorial events honoring the former first lady begin on monday. mrs. carter will lie in repose at the jimmy carter presidential library and museum. then on wednesday, funeral services will be held at their long-time place of worship at the baptist church in plains. the former first lady will be laid to rest at the carter's residence in a private ceremony. up next, more on the breaking developments about the humanitarian and hostage deal

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42 past the hour. returning to our top story, a pause in fighting between israel and hamas in gaza will get underway in just over ten hours.

qatar says the first group of 13 hostages, all women and children will be released at 4:00 p.m. local time tomorrow, just over 19 hours from now. the israeli government has a list of the hostages set to be freed and is notifying their families. the pause in fighting is set to last four days, but it could be extended if additional hostages were to be released. with us now to talk more about this is israel defense forces international spokesperson, lieutenant colonel jonathan con rig gis. thank you for being with us this afternoon. >> thank you for having me. >> what will scaling down operations in gaza look like during this pause? >> yeah, good afternoon to you. it means that we will be on the ground and will have a defensive posture, not engaged actively and seek to engage the enemy but

only to defend ourself, and monitor the movement of hamas forces in the region, but not engage contact. that's essentially what it means. >> is this also an opportunity for hamas to essentially regroup? >> hamas has been begging for a pause in combat activities for quite a long time. we understand that had they are under pressure. we understand that they want and they need this respite in the activity, and undoubtedly hamas will not use the time in order to care if the humanitarian needs of the palestinian civilians in gaza. i'm sure that they will focus all of their effort, time, fuel, resources, et cetera on their combat activities and to perhaps regroup and try to take advantage of this quick breathing opportunity that we're now giving them. >> so the idf says that it has meanwhile detained the head of the al-shifa hospital in the gaza strip? why is that?

>> well, he's in for questioning because there is such a massive amount of evidence of hamas use of the shifa hospital, both aboveground in the presence of medical staff. we've shown ample evidence of that, of hostages being brought in in broad daylight on october 7th, man handled and pushed in and then held at the shifa hospital with the knowledge of shifa medical personnel, and then of course the abundance of underground footage that we have of tunnels and infrastructure under shifa that was built and used by hamas in order to conduct military operations, and of course together with all of that, all the constant lies. lies, lies, and more lies coming out of hamas and the manager of the shifa hospital claiming he's never seen personnel in the hospital, which is a blatant

lie. so he's now being questioned. has not been indicted yet, and we will see what information he will provide how things will carry on. i think what is very clear is that al-shifa has been used by hamas systematically for ilicit military activity. it is high time the world recognizes it, the medical institutions, including the world health organization, the red cross, unicef and other organizations acknowledge and say, yes, idf was right and hamas has been using the hospital for military purposes and this is a violation of humanitarian law. >> and colonel, this video that we have seen released by the idf showing what the idf says embassy has not been able to confirm that because we're not there right now, the idf is

releasing video of this tunnel structure that they say is underneath the al-shifa hospital. if indeed this is what the idf says it is, which is right under the hospital, these -- this tunnel system there, there is no way anybody could have not been aware of the existence of this tunnel. i'm just wondering what is it that you think can be done about this tunnel, which is clearly sophisticated. it has, you know, air-conditioning at times. it has -- there's a kitchenette, some bathrooms, et cetera. how do you fight a war against this infrastructure? >> that is the most challenging part of fighting in gaza is the underground infrastructure. the hundreds of miles of tunnels that we have found and are going to expose all around gaza.

that is what we are fighting, and yes, you are very correct. it is very challenging to fight there. it is a combat environment that any military does not happily go into, and i think that american service members, if you put a general on here with combat experience from iraq and afghanistan, he'll tell you exactly what i'm saying, that going down into tunnels is very challenging. and what makes it even worse is these tunnels are underneath sensitive civilian facilities, homes, mosques, hospitals and schools, and hamas built these tunnels there to make it even more difficult for us to fight them there, and they're using the civilians as human shields. but what we've done over the last two and a half weeks is to slowly, gradually fight hamas in all of their strongholds and simply root them out, out of their underground hidings, and what we're doing now, as we speak, is dismantling more and

more tunnels, and it's important component of what we're doing. we're focusing on northern gaza now, and once the hostage situation hopefully is successfully completed and we will return to combat activity, we will continue to take care of all of hamas infrastructure in all of gaza. >> lieutenant colonel, i can't let our conversation finish without underlining and remembering that we are 48 days since the 7th of october. that day when more than 1,200 men, women, and children were massacred inside israel in a surprise terrorist attack, including more than 260 young people that were celebrating peace at a concert, and it is 48 days since that, but there has also been 48 days of a reaction to that massacre that has caused the death of many people in

gaza. i was just wondering how you see this going forward with this pause or without it. >> yeah, you're perfectly correct in pointing out how this all started, and i think i also agree with what you said that there are lots of casualties on the palestinian side. each and every life lost if it's a civilian, if it's a regular human being, is of course a tragedy in itself, and it's something that we are trying to minimize. hamas has created a very difficult situation for us to fight, but we are very committed to doing that because there is a direct link between each and every hamas stronghold underneath direct link between each stronghold and their military ability to conduct massacre of october 7. without these strongholds hidden under palestinian civilians, they wouldn't have had the ability to come into israel and prepare and collect intelligence and train forces and eventually to conduct the attack that they

did on october 7. where this is going, it depends mostly on hamas. we have said very clearly that the reality of october 7 is a reality that is unsustainable for israeli civilians. we cannot allow ourselves to go back to this reality. we have to change it. if hamas surrenders and gives back all of our 236 hostages and surrenders unconditionally, i'm sure that we could see a very quick end to the conflict here and spare lots of lives. if they don't, we'll have to do the job that we have set out to do and that is to defend israelis from hamas terror. and the only way that can be done sadly is by the use of force. >> colonel, thank you very much for being with us today. appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me. want to talk about food insecurity in our country. it remains an ever growi

problem for families across the u.s. u.s. department of agricultural reports that 12.8 of americans experienced food insecurity in 2022, that is almost 5% increase since the previous year. and average cost for thanksgiving dinner for ten people remains stuck at over $60. joining us now, the ceo of feeding america. claire, it is great seeing you. i thank you for your time today. can we just talk a little bit about the structural failures in our country that cause such high numberses of americans to go hungry? >> first i need to say thanks for having me on. it is great to see you again. >> thank you. >> you are correct go straight to the heart of the issue. there are structural issues that result in 13 million of our children, that is one out of five of our kids in this

country, don't have enough to eat this should be outrageous,en unconscionable in this richest country in the history of civilization. during the pandemic we did things that worked. in fact the rates of food insecurity we see now are much higher than at any point during the pandemic. it has gotten worse and it has gotten worse at a time when we're seeing fewer donations of food, fewer donations of money, and far less attention on these issues. >> and it is striking to hear you say that it has actually gotten worse since the pandemic. i had the real treat to be by your side when the pandemic was going and your organization was there.

we were in different parts of the country seeing what you and your organization were doing to help ensure that people got a meal. what is it that we can do to help so many people now? >> yes, so first let me say that my biggest concern and i think i said it to you when we were together in the past, was that those long lines would return to the insides of buildings. and that when it did, that people would forget. and i think that maybe they went away when in fact they haven't. they have gotten longer. so the types of things that we can do. number one, we could reach out and provide funds. feeding america network is able to convert $1 into ten meals. that is a lot further than your dollar will go in the grocery store. if you can't provide funds, provide food. go to a food bank near you. feeding america.org, put in the zip code of a food bank and you

will get the name of a food bank that is close to you. it might be your hometown, it might be where you went to school, it might be where you let your partner, wherever it is that matters to you, there are members of the feeding america network who are standing shoulder to shoulder to people in that community making certain that they have enough to eat. so definitely fund, definitely food. and i also say let's lift our voices, let's make it clear to congress that it is simply unacceptable for this to continue. we know what works. during the pandemic we saw the food insecurity rates shrinking and then they peaked up because the solutions were taken off the table. put them back on, double down. we can do this. we have to decide it is unacceptable. >> and this day which is a day to give thanks, there are so many people that really do need some help to be able to be

grateful. and claire, thank you for what you do and how you do it. always great seeing you and especially on this day, i appreciate your time. >> i appreciate you, jose. and i appreciate by the way your audience that has shown remarkable generosity. >> yeah, they really do. it is always so rewarding to have that privilege. and i thank you, claire. and i thank you for the privilege of your time on this day, the beautiful holiday in the united states to give thanks. i give thanks for the privilege of your time. you can always reach me on social media. jd balart. and thank you for spending part of your day with us. up next, documentaries kicking off with civil war and stone ghosts in the south and rounding out with paper and glue at 10:00

p.m. again, thank you.

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