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looks pretty good. >> reporter: alex, all things considered, it could be a whole lot worse, but just remember in airports like atlanta, it is not expected to reach its peak until 5 to 9 pm. don't sleep on, tomorrow also another busy holiday travel day. >> indeed. let's think positively. thank you, marissa for that. also, it's going to be in a lot like christmas in just three days time right here at 30 rock. the norway spruce that arrived two weeks ago will be lit on wednesday with more than 50,000 l.e.d. lights and -- 900 off stevie's car, certainly going to be a sight to see. that wraps it up for me on this hour. i'm alex witt. you can catch me tomorrow at three pm eastern on msnbc. i will be filling in for katy to rip. of course, i will be back next weekend for alex witt reports at noon to two pm saturday, one pm on sunday. and then yasmin will also be back next saturday and sunday at two pm eastern. symone starts right now. greetings, everyone.
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you are watching symone. american hostage released by hamas, abigail edan just turned for two days ago. president biden says abigail is proof that the hostage deal is working. she is among the 17 hostages let go of three of a four-day truce in exchange for 39 palestinian -- held in israel. the president saying the goal is to extend the pause in order to get more hostages out and more humanitarian aid into gaza. where displaced civilians are in desperate need. we will break down what happens next and hear from a family member of one of the hostages. plus, new york congressman george santos blasts his colleagues and doubles down against the damning report alleging his misuse of campaign funds. the house vote to expect them is expected this week. we will hear from ethics committee member lynne ivey about what to expect there. i am symone sanders-townsend and i have something to say. ♪ ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ ♪ it is four pm in washington, d.c., and 11 pm in israel and gaza, where hamas released a new wave of hostages. 17 of them in the third day of a fragile temporary truce. moments ago, several children who were released today arrived at schneider children's medical center in israel, where they will be reunited with their families. believed to be among them is four-year-old american abigail edan, both her parents were killed in hamas's october 7th attack. abigail is a dual citizen. she is one of the 14 israeli hostages released, ranging from ages 4 to 84 years old, including four women and nine children. three citizens of thailand were released as well. president biden spoke to abigail's family by phone this afternoon. in remarks following the hostages return, president biden reflected on abigail's rescue as the best hope for the four-day truce to extend beyond
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its tuesday morning deadline. >> she is in israel now. so those who are now wrapping abigail in love and care, the supportive services she needs, she's been through a terrible trauma. critically needed today is going in and hostages are coming out. it is structured so it can be extended to keep building on these results. that is my goal, that's our goal. to keep this pause going beyond tomorrow. >> president biden also spoke today with israeli prime minister netanyahu about the latest hostage release, that the hostages were released in exchange for 39 palestinian prisoners, all of whom were minors, according to a qatari official. meanwhile, people in gaza are still scrambling for basic necessities, as the truce allows for additional aid to cross into the region. dozens more trucks of humanitarian aid entered gaza today, according to the
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international red crescent. all of these developments cap off a tenuous three days of hostage releases, which have brought us emotional scenes, like the one on your screen right now. israel defense forces on sunday released this video of two young israeli girl's reuniting with their loved ones. only one day left of the temporary truce, nearly 200 hostages, including a number of americans that do remain in hamas captivity. as of, now the truce is set to expire at 7 am local time on tuesday. joining me now from tel aviv, israel, is nbc news foreign correspondent raf sanchez. raf, can you tell us what we know about this latest round of hostages, they are transfers, especially four-year-old abigail, perhaps who is going to meet her at the hospital. and then also about the palestinian prisoners who were released today. >> reporter: simone, as you mentioned, this is the third night in which we have seen israeli hostages emerge from
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gaza in exchange for palestinian prisoners released from israeli jails. the choreography tonight was a little different, though. the past few nights we've seen these hostages taken south from thousand to egypt, and from there they have gone back into israel. but tonight, most of the hostages were handed over to the international committee of the red cross in gaza city, then they were taken straight to the border, where they were transferred to israeli forces. the reason for that is one of the elderly women who was among those 14 israeli hostages is said to be in serious medical condition. she was flowed directly to a hospital. as far as we can tell, so, far everyone else seems to be in good health, including that four-year-old american israeli ddler, abigail mor edan. as you mentioned, she turned four in captivity as a hostage of hamas. just earlier, we got a statement from her american family. i want to read to you just a
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little bit of that. this m her great aunt and cousin. they say we hoped and pray today would come. there awordto express our relief and gratitude that abigail is safe and coming home. they thank president biden, qatar and other informal actors who were involved in securing abigail's release. they go on t, today's release proves that it's possible. we can get all the hostages back home. simone, our understanding is that abigail is being taken to schneider hospital, which is a pediatric hospital in the greater tel aviv area here, flown there by helicopter, which is what we've seen with the children who came out of gaza over the last two nights. and the israeli government, israeli medical staff have given a lot of thought about how to care for these kids, who we believe have spent most of the last 50 days underground in
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tunnels. this gives you one small example. they've given them small noise canceling headphones when they get on the helicopters to try to dampen the roar of the-aholic helicopter blades. as you said, there have been these emotional scenes all over. israel children being reunited with their parents. abigail will not be reunited with her parents because both of them were killed on october 7th in kibbutz get far awsa by hamas terrorists. she is, we believe tonight, in the arms of her extended family. but at some, point someone is going to have to explain to this little girl that both of her parents are dead and that she is an orphan. tough, tough conversations to come. >> extremely tough, raf. i cannot imagine. is there any indication that the temporary truce that has allowed for the releases that we have seen, that it might be extended beyond the four days? i'm wondering, why have we not
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yet seen lots of video of the palestinian prisoners who've been released? >> so, just starting on the palestinian prisoners, we have seen celebrations in cities in the occupied west bank like ramallah. in east jerusalem, israeli police have been ordered by the far-right minister of national security, ben-gvir, to prevent any large-scale celebrations as these prisoners are released. we've seen police going to the homes of individual prisoners, making sure that the media isn't allowed to gather, they're the crowds aren't allowed to gather their. this far-right minister basically does not want these prisoner releases to turn into a palestinian political moment inside of east russell him. we've also seen israeli forces fire tear gas at crowds who gathered in the occupied west bank. to celebrate the release of these prisoners. in terms of the possibility of this deal being extended, we're
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hearing positive noises. so far, nothing concrete. you heard president biden earlier saying he wants to see this deal extended under these pre-agreed terms, which would be one additional day of cease-fire in exchange for ten additional hostages. hamas has said that they are open to extending the agreement. these really government is saying, they are cautious, they are prepared to look at the idea. it all depends on whether or not hamas is prepared to follow through on these prisoner releases. we do know, according to the israeli government, that hamas has more women and children beyond the 50 that are part of this deal. if an agreement can be reached, if assist fire can hold, it seems there's more sausages that could come out under the same terms. symone? >> lots of families waiting to hear and see their loved ones. nbc's raf sanchez, thank you so
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much. joining me now is chief international correspondent for the independent bell true, and former ambassador, dennis ross. a counselor for the washington institute for near east policy. welcome to you both. ambassador ross, i want to start with you. i think that the question on my mind, as i've seen all of this unfold over the last couple of days, what infrastructure actually needs to be in place to see this truce extend and more hostages released? yes, there's for lack of return, handshake agreement between all the proper parties, is there additional infrastructure that needs to exist? >> i think the key is, this is a deal that has been brokered largely by the countries with egyptian help in talking to the administration. so, i don't know that what we can talk some sort of sort of wider infrastructure of these negotiations. i suspect these are the parties that will be key to see whether not this can be extended. i think hamas, obviously, in my
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mind, has it in their interest to extend it. it gives them more of a respite. gives them more chance to -- take him immediately military pressure off of them. the israelis, even if they might not want to see the military momentum they have before stop, they certainly want to see the release of the hostages, there's enormous pressure within israel, the body politic in israel, the vast majority of his of israelis, are putting as the main preoccupation, the most immediate priority to get the hostages out. i think the israeli government feels the need, even as an imperative, to move ahead with this. that's why i suspect we will likely see this extended for a couple of days. i don't know how much longer it will go. but i would not be surprised at all to see it extended at least for a few days. >> bill, along those lines, you have spoken to the families of some of the hostages. what have they've been telling you? >> first, i should say they have basically been told that
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they shouldn't be discussing the conditions of the captivity or other captives that they their loved ones may have met whilst they were in captivity. giving scant details about where they were, held what condition they were held. they had one resounding message. all of the families were saying, we're not done yet. even though my loved one's home, there's still others that remain in gaza, we will keep lobbying, we will keep pushing the israeli government and the international community to make sure that everyone comes home. they won't stop until that happens. so, they are pushing for the cease-fire to extend, they made it very clear, they don't mind the conditions of the agreement to bring more hostages home. they just want to see all 240 reunited with their families. >> ambassador, this morning, the president's national security adviser did the rounds on the sunday shows. he joined my colleague kristen welker on meet the press. and was asked about the growing calls within the united states,
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particularly amongst lawmakers for conditioning aid to israel, asked about a cease-fire. jake sullivan essentially said that the president feels vindicated in his strategy, because of the movements that we are seeing. from these hostage releases, the fact that there is a deal for this pause of fighting in the first place. how does the united states continue to operate as an effective third party here? >> well, i think we have. we have relationship obviously with both egypt and qatar. and the president build up a lot of political credit and capital within israel. he's able to ask for certain things. i think the context of what we're seeing though, also helps to explain what's going on. the reality is, getting all the hostages out is something the unites all israelis at this point. there may be some on the extreme right who don't take that view. but the reality is, the vast majority of israelis identify
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with the families of those who have members in gaza. it's unthinkable what they're going through, and is really relate to that. hamas, as i said before, has an interest in stopping the military campaign, or at least slowing the military campaign against it. the israeli military itself is not keen on losing its momentum. it also feels it did not fulfill its responsibility to israeli citizens. that produced the hostages in the first place. the leadership of the israeli military also takes the attitude that getting the hostages out is an imperative. it is a necessary mission. they still say, at the end of this they will deal with hamas so it can't pose a threat to israel again. but i think we're seeing the president understands the context. he understands these forces that are play. he is talking to prime minister netanyahu. talking to the mayor of qatar. he's talking on ensuring that
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we get the hostages out. not losing sight of of the larger strategic objective of hamas not being in control of gaza, but it's got a first things first preoccupation. i think it's understandable. >> bell, how are both israelis and people in gaza are preparing for the potential end of this truce? as the ambassador notes, it could potentially extend, but not for long. >> yeah, absolutely. the israelis have made it very clear, and benjamin netanyahu said today in a trip where actually visited gaza, this war is continuing. i've been speaking to people in gaza every single day, they have talked about this being a breath of air. they can finally breathe after weeks of being under heavy bombardment. many of them have looked for missing family members. many of them a try to find and bury the dead. others have just taken it as a moment to go to the beach. to have their haircut. they know that this is going to end, they know it's temporary,
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they are hoping there could be some 11th hour intervention by the international community. i've also been speaking to the qataris, to some of those close to the negotiators. they are hoping that this pause might not just be extended to two or three days, but might go beyond that. i think, at this point, it's unlikely netanyahu, like i said, made a very clear that he wants those to continue. the military officials i were talking to are saying the same thing every single day. they have objectives, they talked about pushing deeper into gaza into southern gaza. where a lot of displaced pilot indians from the north are sheltering. they said that they're gonna continue to do that. from the israelis here are the families of the hostages, they want to see as many people as possible come out, many of them know that their loved ones don't apply to these particular rules for this hostage release, the young men or the soldiers. they're just hoping that maybe there's a chance it could extend, and they could be released. otherwise, they're bracing themselves for this war to restart again. >> before i let you both go,
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ambassador i know earlier this month you spoke, one of the individuals that spoke in the senate democratic caucus meeting, that senator sanders, bernie sanders of vermont, hosted about the israel and hamas war. they're growing calls, senator sanders himself as one of the individuals who's talked about conditioning aid to israel. i'm sure you'll not detail me this specifics of the conversation in that meeting. but what is the tone and tenor of folks on capitol hill? i've a member of congress coming, up in that meeting, particularly, as folks continue to see the images coming out of the gaza strip? >> look, like many people, they're very heavily affected by the images they see. they're also very heavily effect about what happened on october 7th. there's a recognition that israel is going through trauma. it's gonna take some time to work through. there's also an understanding of the toll that's being taken, the --
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on the palestinians there's a kind of understanding behind all of this, hamas is using palestinians as human shields. there is a, i would say, a duality here. a desire to see something done to limit the number of deaths on the palestinian side, by recognition, the strategic reality as well that if hamas remains in control of gaza, this is not the last time we're gonna see something like this. , the thank, you former massacre dennis ross, bill true. appreciate your time. >> later this hour, i will talk live with the family member of one of the hostages that was released on friday. how 72-year-old adina moshe is healing after her terrifying -- embattled representative george santos is facing a new expulsion vote from congress this week. after a very scathing ethics committee report against him. maryland congressman glenn ivey is a member of that committee, he joins me in studio next. he joins me in studio next. >>
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tuesday, once again, government funding hangs in the balance. lawmakers have until january 19th before the first part of the staggered short term funding bill expires. before, that this week, the house of representatives is expected to take up another resolution. expelling republican congressman george santos of new york. santos announced he wouldn't run for reelection after a damning report from the house
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ethics committee. that report said santos, quote, blatantly stole from his campaign, and that he used his connections to high value donors and other political campaigns to obtain additional funds for himself through fraudulent or otherwise questionable business dealings. he sustained all of this through a constant series of lies to his constituents donors and staff about his background and experience. joining me now, one of the members of that committee, democratic congressman, glenn ivey of maryland. welcome to you, sir. before we discuss george santos and the only fence, i do want to ask you about aid to israel. the president has asked for a sprawling aid package, israel ask included aid to ukraine. israel, border funding aid to taiwan. he's asked for that to be passed before the end of this year. i want to play for you what one of your republican colleagues congressman turner said this morning to my colleague kristen welker on meet the press about the prospects of that passing
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before the end of this year. >> i think it be very difficult to get this done by the end of the year. the impediment curly is the white house policy on the southern border. the white house in this package including it as national security patted recognizing that southern border is a threat. put in funding, but it's gonna be policy changes, congress is going to require that there be laws changed to make certain that the border returned to its prior state, perhaps remain in mexico other types of provisions that would secure the southern border. >> is this package gonna pass before the end of the year? aid to ukraine, aid to israel, is this really gonna happen? >> i think eight israel will happen before the end the, or ukraine is a little trickier, i'm not as clear on the timeline for that. the attempts to keep looking this to other bills, like for example, the first one we voted on they attached to the irs. i think we need the republicans to get past the gimmicks and let's move these bills forward. they don't have time for games over there in israel or in the
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ukraine, they need to get these assistance bills done. humanitarian aid is another one. to gaza as well. let's just move these we've been working on hr to since the beginning of the year. i don't know that it's really on a fast track, let's be honest about that, let's get this things done that really have to get done now. >> if a bill came to the floor for aid to israel that conditioned that aid not linked to the irs funding, but to maybe humanitarian conditions or how their military operations, it was that something you would support? >> probably not. it would depend on what kind of conditions you had. unlikely. i think at this point, we're really need to do is get the aid over to israel. what with respect to the conditions issues, the work that president biden has done with netanyahu and the israeli government has been very good. and a lot of the things that people were talking about, the conditions being that they wanted, president biden's actually gotten done. including this pause. i think, you know, getting it
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done right now we're in the middle of a hot war in the middle of two hot worse. let's get those bills done. >> i want to move to george santos, the congressman, he had some words to say about the report that you all issued. he hopped on a twitter spaces right after thanksgiving and he wanted to make his thoughts known. i want to play for you what he had to say. i want to win the audience, some people may find what he has to say offensive. >> it was designed to smear me. it was designed to force me out of my seat. that is what the intention of this report was. this report wasn't a finding of facts. >> i'm running for reelection, because i don't want to work with a bunch of hypocrites. it's gross. i i have colleagues who more worried about getti -- with an ex lobbyist that they're gonna screw, and pretend like that of us know what's going on. >> would you like to respond to
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the congressman's assertion that the report was was designed to get him out of office? >> no, we really kind of came to this with open minds. i've gotta say this, his comments about alcoholism in adultery or whatever. the allegations that were raised against him go way beyond that. the indictment that contains a criminal charges go way beyond that, all 23 counts. the points that we raised in the report go way beyond that as well. this is fraud, this is conspiracy, this is taking money from people in this using it for personal purposes. you know, the scope of the misconduct is breathtaking. >> the recommendations you included in the report? >> no, the idea was to move it forward, so that people could have a chance to see the information that we've seen, especially since we already had a vote on it. let him have the full information and make a decision based on that. we couldn't do that if we made recommendations that would've kicked kicked in a mini trial that would've had four plus
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months or more. so, we reached unanimous agreement, let's get it out, there let's let the whole house seat and they can make decisions based on foreign formation. the last time a vote to expel congressman santos came to the floor, 31 democrats voted against it. cynthia reporters come out, a number of individuals who had previously voted against expelling santos, they are now saying that if the bill comes to the floor, they will vote to expel him. do you think, on tuesday, congressman santos will be expelled for the united states congress? >> i think there's a very good chance of. that the actions gotta be on the republican side, frankly, i think we had hundred and 29 or so republicans that voted against the expulsion. they've got two sets of political considerations to think through. one, if they do expel him, there mark knows, down to three at this point. if they don't expel, and they've got republicans in tough districts, biden districts, that are gonna have a lot of explaining to do. >> can i just, note this is
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crazy. it's crazy, which of the conversation. this is crazy george santos lied about his entire resume, and is sitting in congress. there many people isn't it should've taken this report to get to this point. what do you say to folks that already out there have a low opinion of congress? >> well, some of its earned. especially this year. 15 votes to pick a speaker. that was pathetic really. and the three weeks to pick another speaker. a lot of this is my republican colleagues that are struggling to run the place. and the dysfunction continues. these are for big issues like keeping the government open. avoiding default on the u.s. treasury. i mean, really big stuff that they can't get their act together on. this is another variation of that. hopefully on tuesday we can get this done and move forward with some of the other big issues. >> all right, we'll be watching, maryland congressman glenn ivey. very good to see, sir. happy holidays. >> same to you. >> good to see. coming up, folks, the white house says president biden is playing a central role in
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security adviser, jon finer, describe the process to my colleague jim psaki. >> if we think it's useful for him to make a phone call to push or to council one of his foreign counterparts, one of the fellow heads of state, we have him do that. he has made, as you said, a number of calls directly on this issue to try to make sure things stay on track. that kind of personal diplomacy is important, for example, after a delay in the temporary truce, a spokesperson for the qatari foreign ministry thanked their mediation partners, the united states in egypt, for efforts to remove obstacles and uphold thee-fire agreement. thanks to that deal, 58 israeli in reign hostages have been released. in the past 7 to 8 hours, 58, including now one israeli american child. the president is pushing to extend the truce in the gaza strip to give critical humanitarian aid in. and innocent hostages out. but despite his leadership in this crisis, the polls they
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just keep getting worse for president biden this month. a recent nbc news poll found that 62% of voters are disapproving of the president's handling of foreign policy overall. and 56 disapproved of is handling of the israel-hamas war specifically. i've got questions. joining me now, democratic strategist, chuck rota. he's the co-host of the latino vote podcast. and the founder of solidarity strategies. also here, ashley pratte oats. she's an nbc think contributor, and our political commentator. chuck, i have heard all day all week, i would see a show on friday i was a little tap to. >> i was little tap, doubt i tap back in saturday morning. i have seen the efforts in the games that have been made. but you do look at this polling. it is just not computing to the people, foreign policy always hard to break through. how do you think the white house is navigating this? international versus the
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domestic. >> always a good day when the president is involved in bringing americans home or hostages home at any level. when you're in a focus group of polling or talk about that off camera a little bit, folks don't go vote just because of a war. they're worried about feeding their families, insurance, health care, things we'll talk about. there are sections of the electorate that biden really needs, that early passion about this jewish americans that live in pennsylvania, muslims who live in michigan. and folks that are really passionate, young and old, you see a real age gap, you mean you've talked about how you excite a younger electorate? also getting old folks to go and vote of always go and vote. that's the real parameters are looking at. >> actually, it strikes me, voters in the recent nbc news poll, they might not think the president is doing a good job. i want to take a look at some of his would challengers have said. it's crazy. the guardian has reported on how republican presidential hopeful in florida governor ron desantis how he had this claim that he was sending weapons and aid to israel.
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that just fell apart because he was lying. and then you have dean phillips who, again, running for president on as a democrat. he's primary president biden. he had this to say this past week. i was gonna play for you. >> by now, i would've expected american special forces to perhaps play a hand in extracting them. i think it's absurd. shocking and dismaying that six weeks later, we still have american hostages held by a terror organization in gaza. >> to be clear, you would turn down even this opportunity to free 50 hostages, and i want to just clarify for the audience, these are israelis, but some of them are dual citizens? they hold dual passports including -- >> if all americans are included, of course i would approve it. there's a single american that still held hostage after this deal, no. >> actually, yeah, one challenge in lying about the aid that they're sending to our friends in israel, you have someone else suggesting that we
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should put american special forces boots on the ground in the gaza strip. >> yeah, i think, at this, point the president is confidently leading. as we were discussing off camera, the lack of confidence is a bit more layered than it's approaching. i think right now, the lack of support among those that are 18 to 34 is concerning. but they're very winnable. that's a group that is going to vote for a democrat. and i don't think it's gonna be dean phillips. i think it's gonna be joe biden. there's a lot of time between now in the presidential election. and i think this cease-fire, as well as these negotiations, he showing that he can confidently lead. he can do it in a way that he was elected to do. he was elected because he is a good negotiator. he's done it for years. i think seeing that type of confidence in the presidential emblem and seal behind him. there is a demeanor there that president trump never had. and when you pose that with
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president trump, that makes for a very unelectable candidate i would like to caution voters here, yes, well this war is important it does pose political risk for biden, i think the confidence in his leadership will be there come election time. >> chuck, let's talk about, that i want to believe ashley's point that the 1834-year-old out there who might feel some type of way about, not just 18 to 34-year-olds, there's also just young people, there is some older voters as well that have been critical of the united states response to the israel hamas conflict. i'll remember in 2016, where a lot of folks they voted third-party, they stayed home. that made a difference. i think it's not a foregone conclusion that young people are going to, but the bullet for lack of a better term and vote for the democratic candidate. >> you bring up a really smart point, i don't think that any of these voters would go to donald trump. my fear is that it gets so
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disenfranchised they stay home. the biggest difference in all of these elections, from what i was a young men, social media and all of this and misinformation that's out there. you have all these different folks out there that are pushing stuff out there that may not be true, and most folks look at it and say, oh that's just my crazy uncle stuff, it can't be true. there's small margins, to your point, does 1% of black voters stay home in philadelphia. two young voters they home in michigan? east architect water 2%, in a race that is supertight already, with a polarization of america that's half an half. then you start getting really worried. most common sense folks will do it actually just set, and vote for somebody who's responsible over somebody who's crazy. when you start losing percentages on the edges, that's what really worries me. >> to your point, what happened in 2016, and i was one of those people who voted third-party, i kicked myself for that every day. i should've voted for clinton. however, when you look at all of this i think people learned from the misses of 2016. granted, the third party, when people have not really learned there.
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but hopefully they've learned that you've got to make a choice. >> this is a good teaser, i have a good -- people need to wait and see. actually, chuck rocha, thank you very much. we will continue this conversation because it's not going anywhere. folks, the war in the middle east, it has resulted in heightened tensions and home. antisemitic and islamic phobic and anti-arab incidents, they are on the rise. just last night, three palestinian students, to wearing traditional scarves, were tragically shot in burlington, vermont. all three are receiving medical care for their injuries. in a statement, the burlington chief of police saying, there was little to no information about the suspect's tive, but added, quote, in this-charged moment, no one can look at this incident and not suspected it may have been a hate motivated crime. the president has been briefed on the situation, in the fbi is aware of the incident. but is not yet launched an investigation at this time. up next, we just teased, it might take on how third-party candidates may appear
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thousands are waiting for the cleft surgery and care your support gives. we are 50 days away from the they need you. give joy and a new smile. scan the code or go online to give today. iowa caucuses. more than 340 days away from the 2024 presidential election. as we get closer to election day, there is growing attention on how third-party candidates could impact the race. let's take a trip down memory lane to 2016. during that election year, thd party candidates collectively one around 4% of thvote in pennsylvania and 6% of the vote in michigan. and wisconsin. combined, this accounted for more than 100,000 votes, which was enough to sway the presidential race, and handle trump an electoral college
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victory. so, just imagine the impact that third party votes could have in next year's race. let's face it, folks, there are americans out there who don't want to vote for republicans, and they don't want to vote for democrats, and it does show in the data. gallup actually found that 63% of american adults currently agree with the statement that the republican and democratic parties do, quote unquote, such a poor job of representing the american people, that a third major party is needed. look, i do not doubt gallops data, and i don't doubt the people's provinces. but the chance of a third party candidate actually winning the presidency in real life it remains highly unlikely. so, is a third party candidate really a threat to joe biden? or even the republican front runner donald trump? i spoke to the senior communications director of third way -- earlier this week, i just gotta play for all but she had to say about the strategy that the no labels movement can use in order for donald trump to win which he calls a chaotic and
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dangerous way. take a listen. >> what we think their new plan is, is to try and win a handful of states in order to force a contingent election. basically, to deny either biden or trump of up to half of 270 votes. if that happens, that is likely to trigger the 12th amendment, that would throw the vote of the 2024 election to the house of representatives. in that crazy scenario, what would happen is, the house would vote by delegation. right now, republicans control 26 delegations. so, a house vote would mean donald trump would win in the most chaotic and dangerous way possible. >> let me reiterate for you, if neither donald trump, if he's republican nominee, nor president joe biden get to 270 electoral college votes, then the republican congress, under leadership of speaker mike johnson, a chief cheerleader of what unfolded in the lead up to and on january 6th, they will decide who the next president will be. and if that happens, let's be very clear.
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they are going to choose donald trump. so, please tell me again how your vote doesn't matter? folks, it does. your vote is your voice. next year, do you really want to make johnson and his republican colleagues speaking for you? not i, said the black cat. after the break, we turn to our gaze back to israel. we are going to take you to the story of one of the released hostages finally reunited with her loved ones. only to face some very painful news. i'll speak with one of her family members, next. like carpal tunnel syndrome, shortness of breath, and irregular heartbeat could be something more serious called attr-cm, a rare, underdiagnosed disease that worsens over time. sound like you? call your cardiologist, and ask about attr-cm. [music playing]
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year old adina moe shea was released from hamas captivity on friday. she was safely returned to her children and her grandchildren, but a very grim reality was awaiting her. adina's family had to tell her that her husband was killed by hamas in her home. could bits -- had been largely destroyed. her nephew, joins me now. first, i want to say, i'm so happy that your aunt is back home. i am so sorry for your families dual loss. i have to ask you, how was it to have to tell your aunt that her husband in her home was gone? >> my aunt was taken hostage after she saw her husband being
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shot. in the safe room. he was shot through the door, three bullets. she tried to stop for 15 to 20 minutes -- before the blast of the window of the safe room pulled her out from the window. and make sure he was did -- she was taken to gaza, knowing that her husband has been shot. however, she didn't know that what happened to her son. her son, together with his wife karen and five children, we're living a few houses next bye to their house. and she was seven weeks in darkness, literally, in the darkness, not knowing what happened. only on friday night, she saw him in the hospital. and she was so thrilled and happy to hug him and see him. and to know that he survive together with his wife and five
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children. this was amazing for. it's like a single light of light in the whole darkness around this. >> how is your aunt doing now? you have said that she had trouble seen, she was held in the literal dark for so long. how she doing mentally? physically? and emotionally today? >> my aunt is very strong. in terms of herschel. when she was released, she understands she's gonna be released, and the terrorists gave her his hand. she slapped him on the hand, i don't need your help. physically, she's very weak. they're all determined from the captivity, without eating properly, without being taken care properly. now she's in hospital, getting strength back and medical attention. with her daughters and sons, together with her. we believe that within two
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weeks she'll be able to release from the hospital. >> i'm sure that you all have had some difficult conversations as a family. i'm wondering, if you're artist shared any details with you about her time as a hostage, in her time in captivity. >> not yet. it's too early. you need to understand, she came to a very dark world. where her husband is gone. her house was completely burned. her community, the whole community, the whole town is not there anymore. over 120 people got killed or being taken hostage. she asked about where is this friend? where is that friend? she really don't know. we don't tell her everything at once. we heard the awful news, day by day, for 50 days. we are telling her the bad news
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slowly. together, with professional help to make sure she will not be devastated to hear all the sad news around her. it's not easy to start your life again, at the age of 72, from scratch. when you literally have nothing, no friends no husband no house no town. no job, nothing you're familiar with. >> it's not easy at all. it is not easy. i know that she and so many other families who've been reunited with their loved ones are grateful for you all. thank you very much. we are praying for all of the families who've been separated from their loved ones. hoping that they come soon. thank you. >> thank you very much for the opportunity to tell her story. thank you. thank you out there for watching symone on this sunday, folks. i am symone sanders-townsend, you can catch me here on msnbc weekends at four pm eastern, anytime over on peacock, if you want a little more of the show,
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