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and that's where she will ultimately be laid to rest tomorrow. >> laura bush, melania trump, all of them descending on georgia to honor rosalynn carter. we will see if former president carter will be healthy enough to attend, and we hope so. that will do it for us today. appreciate your company. see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place. until then, i am ana cabrera reporting from new york. josé diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. we are following breaking news out of the middle east this morning. both hamas and israel accuse each other of violating the truce agreement, and it comes as hamas was set to release more hostages today as part of the deal's extension. we will get the latest reporting
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on where things stand at this hour. plus, we will talk to the doctor leading the team, treating the released hostages, as we learn more about their time in captivity. meanwhile, israel released more than 100 palestinian prisoners in the last four days, mostly women and teenagers. we will look at who they are, and any moment now, first lady and president biden are due to arrive in georgia to attend the memorial of former first lady, rosalynn carter. we begin this hour with more on the breaking news in the israeli and hamas war. this morning israel and hamas are accusing each other of violating the pause in fighting as it enters into a two-day extension. last hour, the senior adviser to prime minister benjamin netanyahu addressed the potential breach of the truce. >> when our perspective, i think the incident is closed and we are still on, i believe, for the
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>> reporter: they say several soldiers were injured by blasts, and in one incident there was an exchange of gunfire between israeli troops and palestinian militants north of gaza, and it's not clear if it was the work of hamas or palestinian islamic jihad or one of the other factions, but this was the most serious breach of the cease-fire we have seen over the last five days. despite what happens, as you heard from the sound you played earlier, it does appear from israel's side they are not planning to back out of the agreement, and we are not hearing anything from hamas, but the expectation here is tonight's release of hostages is still expected to go ahead. the choreography is now familiar. we believe hamas will hand 10 israeli hostages over to the red cross inside of gaza.
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they will then either be taken south into egypt before being brought back into israel, or as we have seen the last few nights, heading directly to the israel border and into the hands of the israel soldiers. the deal to extend the cease-fire, josé, the three to one ratio of palestinian prisoners to israeli hostages, so we expect to see the israelis releasing the prisoners, and so hope for the families of the hostages who are still waiting for their loved ones to come out, and we will see more hostages tonight and tomorrow, and then there could be a way to extend this deal further potentially. >> as we have seen the first four days, which were initially agreed to, it seems as though the hostage releases occurred
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more or less around this time, and we have seen that delay more. yesterday certainly was later in the day. do we know when these new hostages today are going to be released, and do we know who is on the list to be released? >> josé, we don't know exactly who at this point who is among the ten hostages we may or may not see later. we think we will according to the israeli government. there will be women and children. the extended deal runs on the same terms as the original deal, so it's israeli women and children released from gaza in exchange for palestinian women, children and teenagers released from the israeli prisons. it's normally at this time the handover begins, and there's often a delay because it takes time for information to come out
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of gaza, and over the last couple of nights, we have seen the handovers take place in darkness. we have seen hamas hand these hostages over, and they film them for propaganda, and they seem eager to show the hostages are being well treated. we had a chance to speak to the parents of the 9-year-old boy we spoke about many times, and he was released on friday and his family is starting to hear more about the time he spent -- the seven weeks he spent in captivity in gaza. he, and his grandmother and mother were kept by a single guard for most of the time, who when he gave them instructions, he would make athroat-slitting gesture like this, and there were days they would go without food. they would have to knock on a door to use the bathroom, and
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sometimes were kept waiting hours to use the bathroom, and they did not realize they were just three of more than 240 hostages taken on october 7th, and they did not know there was a global campaign involving the president of the united states to bring them home. >> thank you so very much from tel aviv. joining us this morning, dr. guy levine, who is head of the medical and resilience team for the hostages and the family forum. you have been meeting with several of the now former hostages. what are you learning about what they went through for seven weeks? >> i am on my way to visit another and their family in south israel. i can tell you that she was not
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well treated. in terms of the medical condition, she did not receive medications she needs, and she arrived to israel in life threatening condition. she was hypo thermic with low temperatures, and she was in shock and needed immediate and intensive treatment, and she was ventilated after several days in the intensive unit, and she is now conscious and we hope for good news. i also know former bruises on her body, and she was dragged like a sack of potatoes. she was handcuffed and not well treated in terms of her basic needs. this is outrageous. this is something that no human
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being should suffer from. we know from other hostages about not only a poor diet but threats and violence against them. so that's why all the hostages must get released, and in the meantime get visits to allow them proper care. >> which has not happened as of today. there has been no proof of life even, much less the red cross being able to visit with these men, women and children. we're talking about even some very, very young children. doctor, you have spoken to and have seen with your own eyes, and what is some of the physical conditions some of the hostages were subjected to?
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>> when i met, and i heard about people with lice. they did not take showers for 50 days, and they were not given a proper diet, and they were not only under stress because of the conditions but also were under threat all the time, so it's very difficult. i am trying to be sensitive here. i am with the families all the time. they are so worried. we know babies, there was one that was ten months old now, and i know today the release will be mostly women and children as far as i know from the messages the families got. i hope that those who will arrive today will not be as in poor condition as was alma. the recovery will be long because they have physical and
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mental a emotional needs, and we have medical teams tha will help them recov >> doctor, we are seeing some of the hostages that have bee re a these were released on monday. we have 34-year-olds, 3-year-olds, 12-year-olds, 16-year-olds, 11 and 12-year-olds, and every single one of them are having a psychological manifestation compared to what they lived through, and so much has been heaped upon them, and there was a girl that witnessed her mother and father being killed before she was taken away. i am just wondering, doctor, how are these psychological traumas
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going to be dealt with? >> so the principle is it will be different for each one of them, different needs, and we know some of the things such as them to be active, and get back control over their life, and it's different for different people, and as we said, personal, and to be patient. it will take time. it's not something you can do at once. you will need to regain trust. one of the family members told today how a family member is affected -- she speaks like a third person, like it happened to somebody else, because understand, as you said, these people were abducted, the family murdered in front of their child, and it's genocide, and we need to go back to holocaust
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survivors to get literature, and some of them don't have a family to return to, and some of them -- they released the mothers but the fathers are still there. children not only need a mother but need fathers. how can they start recovery forces when the father is not with them, and that's very did. i met with a woman and she wants to help the other families and hostages, but she misses her husband, who is still in there. i see their empathy and i know the support we get from all around the world is very encouraging for all the families, they know they are not alone, but the world must th world leaders should speak up like biden is doing, to let them go now, and it needs to be done as quickly as possible for
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all of them. >> doctor, you mentioned you are having to learn from and utilized lessons learned from the holocaust. the perspective of what that means, and i am wondering, doctor, separating yourself from your professional responsibilities, how do you as a human being process this? >> well, i come from a family of holocaust survivors. i will remember my grandmother, ana, who told me her father was taken by the nazis, and it's like now many were murdered, and i think that i have strength from the global support, and you know that one of the hostage told hamas, don't release me, release her before me, because she's in poor condition.
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so i think this bravery and, you know, heroism, and solidarity, and we know in one perspective, even in the darkest hour, you can overcome. as a society we are stronger together and we can overcome. so i derive strength from that, from the historic perspective, and from the support i just attended today the meeting of the leaders of these -- and we shared our experiences, and in the public system and my experience as head of the medical team, i must say that i salute all those tweeting the thousands of wounded people, and
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doing everything they can to build back better from the ashes of the genocide and massacre that happened october 7th, but still, it's very difficult when the wounds are still open and when our heart is literally still in gaza with over 150 people abducted there. we must get them back here. personally, that's my mission. >> doctor, thank you for being with us today. very much appreciate your time. >> thank you. hoping for good news today. >> indeed. coming up, some are accused of attempted murder, and others are throwing stones or trespassing. what we know about the palestinian prisoners being released by israel. we're back in 60 seconds. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. n.
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we are turning now to breaking news coming out of india as we speak. moments ago government officials said 41 minors that were trapped after a tunnel caved in were rescued. meagan fitzgerald, this is an incredible story. what is the latest? >> after more than two weeks of being trapped in the tunnel, the workers have been freed. rescue crews worked throughout the night manually digging through rocks and debris using handheld drills to reach the tripped workers, and they had to resort to this and their hands after a drilling machine broke down. they were working on a massive project connecting sites together, and a landslide caused a portion of the tunnel to
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collapse. ambulances along with family and friends, of course, were waiting at the mouth of this tunnel to welcome these guys back. a good story, indeed, josé. >> unbelievable. thank you very much. appreciate it. turning back now to the israel-hamas war. the humanitarian situation in gaza remains catastrophic. trucks carrying much-needed supplies of food, water, fuel and medicine have continued to arrive, but the world health organization warns more people could die from disease if the health system is not restored soon. we get another look a devastation. this picture shows children playing in an area called unknown soldier square in gaza city in 2022, and this picture shows the scale of destruction
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now. under the agreement that led to a pause in fighting, israel freed 150 palestinian prisoners, women and even some teenagers, and some were convicted of serious crimes, and some were not formerly charged with anything. we have more from nbc's david noriega. >> jubilation in the west bank as palestinian women and children were freed from israel jails. that is a bus carrying the prisoners in question. among them, a 17-year-old, and his father was there to greet him. >> translator: he was just studying. he's in high school. i'm telling you, i don't know why my son is in jail. >> reporter: israel calls these prisoners terrorists, and some were convicted of violent crimes, including attempted
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murder, and others are throwing stones or incendiary devices, and most have not been convicted, and teenagers were held with no charges against him. palestinian and international human rights groups state system of military arrests and detentions lacks basic due process, especially when it comes to children. >> without charges or trials or anything, and if i have no evidence -- >> this happens regularly to children, to minors? >> yes. >> israel had more than 1300 people in administrative detention, including 23 children before october 7th, and palestinian groups says the numbers skyrocketed since then. >> palestinians say the
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indefinite detentions without trial or evidence is one of the ways the military occupation robs them of their basic human rights and dignity. and israel said all are detained within the precisions of the law, and they said they would face a fine much more than $18,000 if they spoke to the press. >> are you willing to talk to me about your arrest and detention? he refused to talk, afraid israeli soldiers would retaliate. >> our thanks for that report. more than 1,300 still under administrative detention. up next, what happened when high ranking israeli forces met overnight with senate democrats on capitol hill. and why hunter biden could
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what is this all about? >> reporter: what we are seeing play out here is a public negotiation over the parameters regarding this subpoena the oversight house committee requested from hunter biden. they want to ask him questions about the business dealings and see if there's a connection to his father, the president of the united states, as part of the broader impeachment inquiry, and because it's under subpoena that compels hunter biden to cooperate. the way these things work out when it comes to a congressional committee, there's a back and forthwith the attorneys representing the target and the committee itself trying to come to an agreement as to how the witness will appear before the committee so they can extract the most information possible. hunter biden and the attorneys have not received much information, and they received the subpoena and now received
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information from the attorney, and the subpoena was initially for a closed-door deposition where they could ask hunter biden a round of question, but are leaving open the option of the public testimony. this is a standoff between the two sides to see what is coming next, if congress asserts its authority, it could lead to contempt charges against hunter biden, and what could happen is more deliberations to come to an agreement. right now he's scheduled to appear in front of the committee, and he has agreed to do that in public. >> meanwhile the president's brother also responded to this subpoena. >> that's right. james briden has not specifically responded to the subpoena, but his team is in
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communication. james biden also requested to appear for a closed door deposition, and his closed door deposition is scheduled for earlier than that of hunter biden's on december 6th. >> thank you very much. staying on capitol hill, we're learning new details about a closed-door meeting between senior level israeli military officials and a group of senate democrats last night amid the growing concerns of the humanitarian needs in gaza, and lawmakers are weighing whether or not to approve president biden's request for aid to israel and ukraine. what are lawmakers saying about this meeting? >> reporter: first of all, we should focus for a second on how unusual it is that the idf would
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send a senior general to capitol hill amidst a war in israel, and that shows the level of concern or sensitive that exists when democrats are coming out and criticizing israel's conduct against the hamas terrorists organization in gaza. that's number one. number two, they said it was a frank discuss, and everybody was mum on the details about this briefing, and it was organized by congresswoman duckworth of illinois. and the biden administration wants to get through aid, and so they are making sure they are comfortable with the abstract of what israel is doing in gaza is important. >> any update on the israel or ukraine package before the
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recess? >> it's a mess, josé. the house passed its israel aid, $14 billion tied to the spending cuts with the internal revenue service, and it's a nonstarter with democrats in the senate, and the senate at the same time is considering or is likely to put on the floor a bill to give aid to israel, ukraine, and taiwan together. that is a nonstarter in the house of representatives, so we are at, again, one of these stalemates where both chambers are doing something that the other chamber doesn't like. speaker mike johnson, new to the job, he said he will not accept an israel aid package that ties israel aid to ukraine, and he wants them separated. and chuck schumer could move a solely israel aid bill through, and he chose not to do so and he wants them tied altogether.
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december, as we know, it's a furious time for legislating, and i think that's what we are going to see towards the end of the month. >> yeah, as they get closer to the holiday break, things mysteriously and magically get done more than they would during the year. meanwhile, congressman george santos could face an expulsion vote from the house earlier this week? >> yes, he's under withering pressure. democrats and republicans have filed resolutions seeking to expel him from the house of representatives, and it's the fifth time in u.s. history, and santos is saying he will not resign. that's the only way he could avoid the vote. somebody needs to go to the floor today, and robert garcia of california said he would do that, and a republican from mississippi filed a resolution, and he has not asked for privilege, and that would
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trigger a two-day countdown for it to be considered. we assume mr. santos will be expelled, and his argument is he has not been convicted of anything, but i think the ship as sailed for mr. santos. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. up next, dozens of gazans use the pause in fighting to line up for gas and water, and we will look at the role the white house is playing in extending the deal and sending aid. plus, warning israel about its next steps in the war against hamas. we will talk to a colonel about what israel may be doing next. you're watching josé diaz-balart. atching josé diaz-balart. it's your verizon. we used to struggle with greasy messes. now, we just freak, wipe, and we're done! with mr. clean clean freak, conquering messes is that easy.
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36 past the hour. with the pause in the israel-hamas war extended for two more days, the biden administration is already in discussions with israel officials about what might come next. the u.s. has told israel it must avoid significant further displacement when it's forces move to southern gaza, according to biden administration officials. first of all, the first of three flights with aid will be delivered to gaza. what do we know about what led
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the white house to issue these warnings? >> what we have seen, obviously, over the last several weeks is the growing concern about palestinian from around the world and for them to do more to help the civilian population suffering so badly in gaza. the senior administration official told us there have been daily communications with leaders in israel about how to minimize the impact on civilian populations. we know the israelis have said once this pause, once the pause is over, there's an intention to move ground forces into the southern part of gaza, and u.s. officials said to the israelis, we heard through a senior administration official they don't support moving south unless and until there's a demonstration that there's a plan to do everything possible to account for the civilian
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lives as gazans were moving to the south, and they want to make sure there's a plan to make sure we don't see the number of palestinian deaths escalate beyond what has already been killed. it's a point being driven home constantly as the administration said from the beginning, josé, it doesn't want to see a reoccupation of gaza or see a forcible displacement of civilians in gaza either. >> aaron gilchrist in washington. thank you so much. with us to continue the conversation, a retired attorney in the israel military, and major john spencer, chair of urban warfare studies at west point. israel and hamas accuse each other of breaking the deal in the fighting, but the pause is still on. this is a very precarious moment
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for these pauses. >> absolutely. and one -- i choose to believe the idf before hamas as a general stance, but there's lots of fighting where idf soldiers were injured. there's still over 160 in captivity, and that includes many americans and lots of diplomatic efforts going on, in qatar and other places to ensure the pauses continue to allow for the hostages being released, and the idf general visiting congress is a great part of that process, to inform congress the steps that will be taken to destroy hamas but prevent civilian harm, and that's the goal of any society that heres
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to moral values. >> and so a little girl turned four in captivity, and another 10 could be freed today and another 10 maybe tomorrow, but still 173 hostages remain in gaza. what does israel have to do to get these hostages out? if this pause ends tomorrow, there's still a lot of people in there that -- how do you get them out? >> there's no question that the reason that terrorists plan attack, let alone the unprecedented mass hostage release, is that you, josé, ask me the israeli, what do you do? there are no good options. what you do is the combination of what we have done until now, you do harsh military pressure on hamas, the terror organization. that's what brought them to the
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table, not just because the diplomacy came after them. in the first few weeks, they wouldn't talk to anybody, only after the ground operation did they start. and as you say, that ground operation has a horrible cost. israel does everything it can, telling civilians to move and telling civilians to get out to save their lives, and it doesn't make it any easier. the pictures of destruction you are showing are absolutely going to be part of that. what we need to do right now is focus on the dual -- it's a dual maneuver. you put on military pressure, you get more hostages. it's not a happy option, but it's the only one there. get as many during the pause, and after that it's back to the military pressure. >> i was thinking about just the many steps that hamas took to plan the horrible massacre on the 7th of october.
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1,200 men, women and children killed in their homes and at a peace concert. so many taken to gaza as hostages. the suffering and the blood that was said on october 7th, in a way, continues. i am just thinking, the planning of hamas to do -- to take these steps -- i don't know, how do you see the level of planning and what they tried to get out of this? >> one of the challenges i have, and even as a director, like of an institute, what we do about terrorism is i could not in my own mind plan such a dehumanizing genocidal plan. i couldn't think of that, and in that way i couldn't protect israel and say it was going to happen because i couldn't conceive they would have this kind of a plan, josé.
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in addition to that, part of the plan is to build your entire defense system underneath 2.2 million people and to make israel trying to do the best we can. i have talked with you before in the past and said to you, my children are the ones who are fighting. they need to know when they look at themselves in the mirror they have never targeted civilians, and yet, josé, look at the amount of civilians that have been killed because hamas hide behind them and live within them. there's no easy option. as an israeli, i need to know that i have destroyed the planners and executers of the horrible plan, who in the last 7 1/2 weeks, said again they will do it again and again and again. i can't live here when they still exist, those planners. >> it's very clear that they plan to do it again and again and again. not only have they said that in the last seven weeks, but it's in their charter and so much more. john, does a pause of this length make it more difficult for israel to resume fighting
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and, you know, thinking about what mary says, i mean, the horrible costs to innocent humans, and still there's the need to deal with this reality? >> absolutely, josé. it absolutely makes the idf's job harder to continue the operation and pursue peace, and that can only come with the removal of hamas in gaza. and politically to get the hostages back, deals have to be made, and urban warfare is the most difficult warfare, and as we have seen, just the perception of what you are doing could have massive strategic consequences. this is the price israel was willing to pay, knowing it would be harder. over 30,000 hamas fighters laying under a city waiting for the idf to come forward, and
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they are trying to force the palestinian civilians to go back to their homes, and the biggest thing can you do to prevent civilian harm is to keep civilians out of the main combat areas, and hamas wants to sacrifice as many civilians as they can so we talk about it, is trying to push them back in the combat areas. yes, it will be harder for the idf, but they knew that was the price they would pay. >> thank you both for being with us today. i appreciate your time. >> thank you. the air force one just landed in georgia carrying former secretary clinton, and former first lady michelle obama, and take a look at those pictures right there on their arrival to georgia. we will talk about that, next. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc.
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(music ends) 50 past the hour. in just over an hour, a memorial service is being held in atlanta for former first lady rosalynn carter. her husband -- they were married 77 years -- former president jimmy carter is expected to attend as well as president biden, vice president harris, former president clinton and all five living first ladies. the bidens, clintons and former first lady michelle obama just
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arrived in georgia. blayne alexander joins us from atlanta. how is the former first lady being honored today? >> reporter: she's being honored in a very big way. this is the second of three days of tributes. what's notable about today is not only are we going to see all of the dignitaries you mentioned, but we are expecting to see her life partner, her husband of 77 years, former president jimmy carter, make his way here to the church today. we are already starting to see guests arrive. they are walking right by where i'm standing, just off camera. we see people filling up the church. i think what's so notable about today, in addition to seeing the former president coming here and making this long trip from plains, georgia, to atlanta, is also we're going to see a service that honors who rosalynn carter was and the things she held most dear. her children, her grandchildren, her great grandchildren, all expected to play a role in today's memorial service in some
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way. we are going to hear tributes from personal friends. we will hear from their pastor. we have been hearing about her. so many things she held dear will be brought to the forefront today. >> blayne alexander, thank you very much. up next, rising cases of rsv in the u.s. in china, new concerns about a respiratory illness outbreak being called undiagnosed pneumonia. you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. p. ♪ shelves. shelves that know what taste buds want. shelves smart enough to see, sense, react, restock. ♪
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morning. how concerned should we be about the illnesses? >> we have to be concerned, because it's the season for respiratory viruses. covid is no longer top of mind. health officials say this is no time to stop being diligent about hand washing and staying home when you feel sick. actions that will keep you healthy and others as well. >> reporter: these scenes of packed hospital waiting rooms raising alarm in china as it grapples with a spike in respiratory illnesses, mostly in children. the world health organization is asking for more information. here flu is spreading across the u.s. the cdc reporting a nearly 4% increase in flu-related doctor's visits. the southeast hit especially hard. not like last year with flu, covid and rsv. rsv cases are on the rise. >> we have seen a tremendous increase in the number of
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children who we have diagnosed with rsv over the past seven to eight weeks. probably some of highest we have seen all season. >> reporter: dr. shane thinks cases have peaked at her hospital. they are increasing among children in maryland. a new preventative antibody is in short supply. how many doses did you get? how many doses do you need? >> i need a lot more than what i have gotten. i have gotten -- received less than 50. >> reporter: dr. win says it's crucial expectant moms get the vaccine made for them. >> if there's been four weeks, they have made antibodies and have passed it on to their infants at birth. >> reporter: the cdc says 77,000 additional doses will be made available. it is advising doctors to prioritize those who need it, including infants six months and younger or with underlying
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conditions. what is behind the shortage of this antibody? we called the maker. it says that even though it had an aggressive supply plan, demand was greater than anticipated. what do you do in the meantime? doctors say it's very important that people over 60 get the rsv vaccine and that everyone gets the flu vaccine to stop the spread of the viruses and protect the most vulnerable among us. good advice going into the holiday season, jose. >> anne thompson, great to see you. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> good to see you. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. reach me on social media. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on
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