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to 3:00 p.m. eastern. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. good to be with you. i'm katy tur. as we speak, we are expecting more hostages to be released including potentially one american. two israeli women have been released today, hours before the extended cease fire is set to end. that is unless there's a deal to keep it going. it is a precarious situation. hamas is claiming three of the captives have died, a mother and her two young sons. a 4-year-old and a 10-month-old. the idf cannot confirm if that's true. trying to keep the lines of communication open are secretary of state antony blinken, headed to israel right now and u.s. envoy for hostage affairs. as the united states tailors its public message, that a

resumption of war gives hamas what it wants, which is never ending violence. quote, hamas, unleashed a terrorist attack because they fear nothing more than israelis and palestinians living side by side in peace. there's growing political pressure in washington behind that change in messaging. let's get into it. joining us now from tel aviv is nbc news correspondent, david noriega. good to have you. let me ask youbout the current hostage situation. we have seen two women so far. usually by now we have seen a few more. what do we know about the status? >> yeah, we know those two hostages are safely in israeli territory in the hands of the idf. this is quite unusual. in the context of the first five days of the cease fire, we saw the entire group of hostages on any given night released at the same time. this is not what we're seeing tonight. these two hostages are duel russian-israeli nationals.

hamas says it released them specifically as a gesture goodwill towards president vladimir putin which suggests that the release of these two specific people happened outside the framework of the cease fire agreement. we're waiting to see any news of the release of the additional hostages that we're expecting to see released tonight. we also know from a u.s. official and a diplomat involved in the negotiations that it is possible that an american will be released tonight. possible but not guaranteed. i would describe the situation here on the ground right now as eerily quiet. we're not really getting any news at this impact moment on whether the cease fire is going to be extended. all sides say they are willing other side is willing to extend it. for how long, we don't know. we are not seeing any news yet of the remainder of the hostages, and yet we are two hours away from the midnight deadline at which the temporary truce is supposed to expire. we're paying close attention to

what happens next and what it means for the next 24, 48 hours, et cetera. >> we have ambassador mark regev coming on in a moment. we're going to ask about the current status of negotiations. i want to ask you about the claim that a mother and two small children have died. they have been wrong in the past. they have said hostages were killed when they were not. what does the idf currently know about this situation? >> reporter: yeah, the bibas family, they theelves have come out with a statement, saying they are aware, they get information from the idf about what hamas is claiming. they want privacy until they get confirmation either way. they say hopefully refutation of the information that we are getting from hamas. what hamas is claiming is that the bibas family died as a result of an israeli air strike. however, they didn't offer any evidence to support that claim or any details about when or

where or exactly how it happened. so that unfortunately is all we know. at this point, the bibas family, i think, has come to represent a little bit -- everything that's at stake in this particular, very precarious, cross roads moment we're in, where we don't know if the conflict is going to continue, and if so, for how long. katy. >> david, thank you very much. and joining us now is shira havron, three of her family members were killed in the october 7th massacre, and of nine who were kidnapped, eight have been released. thank you for joining us. i know this whole situation has been so hard, and knowing that you still have one family member who is being held captive, i'm wondering where your head is at right now. >> thank you for having me, i think these days, obviously we feel great relief to see, as you said, family members back home safe, including children who are

3 years old, and 8 years old. but as you said, their father, tal, alongside more than 150 hostages are currently in gaza, and it's heartbreaking. i mean, to tear the family apart again, once on october 7th and again on the day my family was released, they're still missing one family member. so it's very complicated times. very hard to, you know, know what to feel in these moments. >> yeah, how are your family members doing? >> they came out from the hospital. they are relatively physically okay. obviously the healing process and coming back to our reality is going to be a long process all together. and, you know, coming back from

hell basically to devastating news, you know, as you said, three of my family members have been murdered that saturday, so we had to tell them some of the news that they didn't know. and coming back without their father, husband, son-in-law, i'm sure that for them it's very overwhelming emotionally, and they're taking it very slowly, and we will, you know, be with them, and support them until tal is back, and this is our ongoing fight at the moment. we can't forget him. we always think about him. and we work to get him back. but for them, yes, it's very complicated. there's relief, but also heartbreak. and coming over enormous trauma.

>> according to the reporting, the situation with the cease fire, this temporary cease fire and this negotiation for the hostage releases largely came because of the pressure from family like yours putting pressure on the netanyahu government to do something to make the hostages the first priority, not the second priority. there are still so many that are being held captive. there are only a couple of hours, a few hours left in this cease fire. what is your message to the israeli government right now? >> our message stays the same. bring them all home now, and keep this as top priority. the only goal right now, the only victory, if we can have any kind of victory, for our family, we already lost because we lost amazing people and a lot of people. but, you know, in order to get some kind of victory picture, it's going to be all the hostages back home now today.

this humanitarian pause needs to go on and continue so more exchange deals can be done. we see how it makes people feel. we see not only the families, you know, that are getting their loved ones back home. we see the whole nation celebrating the return of each and every person, and i think it's so important because we have to save the people we can save. this should be the thing in their minds when they're coming to make those decisions. i think, you know, seeing the death tolls on both sides, it's devastating, seeing the suffering, the pain of so many families, my families, the people that, you know, came back. it's just devastating, so i think the one thing they can do to actually get some kind of a win is to bring all of them back home now. >> yeah, it has been

devastating. certainly for your family, for the other families who are still waiting, for the ones who are hoping that their loved ones are still alive, and of course for all of the people in gaza who are innocent among this. thank you so much for joining us, and we're praying for you. we hope that tal comes back. >> thank you so much. and a number of democratic lawmakers are either urging president biden to push a cease fire or demanding that any military aid that goes to israel must include conditions. the pressure within the party both in washington and among voters, especially younger voters across the country has been building for weeks. and though the president has recalibrated his public messaging toward israel of late, now saying a resumption of war only serves to give hamas what it wants. privately, the president is confident the best way to influence israel is to hug them close, according to multiple sources familiar who spoke with

nbc news. joining us now, nbc news imagining editor in washington, carol lee, it's good to have you. this is an interesting article you wrote about president biden and his position towards israel. it's one he held a long time, and one he was together during the obama administration was i don't think. >> that's right, katy. what we learned, my colleague courtney kube and i went through our reporting to sort of look at why president biden not only was taking this approach toward israel but also really digging in on it, as he comes under all of the pressure that you just talked about from members of his own party, from u.s. allies overseas, and the reason is this is something he has believed for a long time, during the 2014 during the gaza conflict, he advocated for this position, the way to have influence with israel is to hug them very close, and basically not show any daylight between the u.s. and israel and that that, then, in turn in the president's view

gives you leverage and allows you to quietly influence them. and what we have learned is that the president, in the early weeks of the current conflict in gaza, was talking about this, how he was right then and that his views were dismissed by former president obama and his staff at that time. and that because former president obama in 2014 came out very early and was critical of israel, that he never had any leverage with the israelis as they carried out their assault on gaza in 2014, and that because president biden in his view has taken this other approach, the one he advocated for years ago, that he believes he does have leverage and that that strategy is working. and so how he's felt internally, at least in the initial weeks is that his approach was vindicated that this is something that was working and that he believes currently is continuing to work, and one other thing we learned in our reporting, katy, is that he felt like anyone who had

dismissed him as not having a good grasp on foreign policy was wrong, and the way he handled himself in this conflict proves that. >> what do you make of the recalibrating of the message publicly, he is standing side by side with israel but he's saying that a two-state solution is necessary, and he is urging more humanitarian relief, and also saying that the a resumption of hostilities only serves to give hamas what it wants, which is diverging from what prime minister benjamin netanyahu has said. >> this is where you're going to see the differences between the biden administration, the president and the prime minister, and the israeli government really widen as this conflict goes on and as they get into the phase of this where they start talking about what does a post war gaza look like. who governs that? how does that play out? the president and the white house have a very specific view. that's not one that's agreed

upon by the current israeli government, and so those differences, you can already see them emerging and they're going to become more and more pronounced as this continues, katy. >> carol lee, thank you very much. and coming up next, where do the negotiations stand? i'm going to ask a senior adviser to benjamin netanyahu if this cease fire is going to continue after tonight. plus, what has democrats on capitol hill so divided over funding for israel and how republicans are capitalizing on it. also we've got some updates on george santos. don't go anywhere. gillette...labs? gillette's ultimate shaving experience. this green bar releases trapped hairs from my face. gamechanga! while the flexdisc contours to it. lookin' smooth. feelin' even smoother. how 'bout hookin' me up with some gillettelabs? check your texts. you're the best. nah, you're the best. the best a man can get keeps getting bettuh. the next generation of shaving is gillettelabs.

if a deal is not reached, there are now only a few more hours in this extended cease fire. raf sanchez tells us what gazans are doing to brace themselves for the fighting to begin again. >> reporter: under the cover of a fragile truce, gazans are venturing on to the streets, lining up at gas stations hoping

for a few precious drops of fuel, and baking bread in traditional ovens. the cease fire offering a brief respite from seven weeks of israeli bomb in response to the october 7th attack. around 15,000 people have been killed according to the hamas-run health ministry. that's one out of every 130 people. but today, the world health organization with a stark warning. >> so eventually we will see more people dying from disease than we are even seeing from bombardment. >> disease spreading through camps like this, more than a million gazans now displaced by the fighting. their tents little match for the winter rain. muna fled with her daughter. she doesn't know if her husband is still alive. is there anything worse than this, she asks? and even when the war ends, many will have no homes to go back to. in the city of honunas, a

satellite image shows damage to 50% of all buildings. travel up ship and the devastation grows. in northern gaza where the bombing was most intense, half the buildings are partly or completely destroyed. this was soldier's square, a park in the heart of gaza city. today, it's a landmark unrecognizable. halil and yasmin got married just a month before the war. this is what's left of the house they hoped to make a home. we were living a happy life but this happiness is gone and everything with t she says, and with the clock ticking towards the end of the cease fire, families bracing for the war to begin again. >> raf sanchez, thank you very much. and joining us is senior adviser to benjamin netanyahu, and former ambassador to the uk, mark regev. you said this is up to hamas whether to extend the cease fire, that the deal is already on the table, they just need to come up with more hostages that they can release.

what do you know about their numbers and who they have been able or what they have been able to track down? >> as we speak, we understand there are 25 people who fit into the category of women and children, at least. and as a result, it's possible to extend the cease fire two additional days if hamas continues to release people. it's their call. we agreed to the special humanitarian pause, precisely to get hostages out. hamas has more israeli hostages, i think the total is 159. keep releasing them, and the pause continues. >> what can you tell us about what the government has been able to figure out about the three hostages who hamas says have died, the mother and her two small boys? >>obviously, we fear for these three individuals, the

10-month-old, the 4-year-old, and the mother. they were kidnapped on october 7th. they were hamas's responsibility. hamas is responsible for anything that happened to them. but this just shows the depravity of who we're dealing with. who kidnaps a 9-month-old baby. who kidnaps a 4-year-old. these people are fanatics. they are brutal. and it is extremely difficult, even when you agree to something like we've done on this hostage pause, they are extremely difficult to work with. every time, it's like pulling teeth. it's painful. you hope you get a good result in the end, but it's really difficult. >> hamas has been wrong before about hostages that they've said died that did not die. is there a sense in the israeli government that this could be misinformation, psychological warfare? >> of course, that's always a

possibility, and also we haven't had air strikes for five days now because of the humanitarian pause to get the hostages out. they're telling us something that apparently happened a while ago, and so why didn't they tell us then? but of course we can't exclude the possibility that hamas has killed these people. we're still looking into this information. if you want to be extremely hopeful, i can embrace what you've said, katy, that there have been occasions in the past where they have said people have died, and they haven't died, but i don't want to be overly optimistic. anyone who is being held by hamas has to fear for their safety. >> there is a lot of reporting that the west bank is reaching a boiling point right now. the u.s. special coordinator for middle east peace process has said that it's getting worse rapidly. here's warning that the violence on both sides is bad, but specifically settler violence toward palestinians. what are the israelis doing to calm the situation there and not

ignite things further? >> so what you have on the west bank is you have hamas and other terror cells across the west bank. what do they want to do, katy? they want to sort of duplicate the violence that hamas committed on october 7th. and going to israeli communities and just butcher people. and we've been preempting our security services that our armed forces have been going energetically out there to neutralize these terrorist threats before they can commit crimes, and we've been arresting people in the middle of the night when they haven't agreed to come quietly. there have been fire fights, but our goal is to keep a stability on the west bank. we don't want to see an escalation there. >> what about the settlers? >> any violence, vigilante violence, we oppose. we have been very strong in denouncing it. we will continue to do so. we arrest people involved in this sort of violence. it's unacceptable.

no one can break the law in israel no matter who they are. >> ambassador mark regev. thank you very much for joining us. one more question, do you have any idea when the rest of the hostages that are expected today will be released? usually it's happened by now? >> that's one of the things i talked about having teeth pulled and it's always painful. you never know, and we're never confident until we see them, first of all, delivered to the red cross, and finally when we see them on israeli soil. until then it's not done until it's done. you know, we're always concerned that hamas is going to play games. we're always concerned that hamas is deliberately, psychological warfare against the israeli people and torturing the families of the hope that hope to get out tonight. >> ambassador mark regev, thank you for joining us. >> thank you very much. coming up next, what's going to happen to george santos this week? is he still going to be called congressman? we've got some reporting. and what an oakland, california, council member faced

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kent moment, katy. >> this is absurd, especially considering the news we're covering. george santos was absurd before this happened, the allegations are more absurd in this context. is he going to keep his job? >> reporter: probably not. here's the likelihood, tomorrow the house is going to begin debating a resolution to get rid of santos, and they have to bring it up by tomorrow. they have to vote on it. i think shortly after that, i think this is going to come up on friday, that's what i was hearing this afternoon. they don't want to muddy the waters, so to speak, with the other legislation they have on the floor this week. i will say this, the leadership is playing this quite coy. we haven't heard much from steve scalise, elise stefanik. mike johnson in his own way is trying to push santos out the door without pushing him out the door, telling him privately in conversations santos should consider it might be easier for lawmakers, for him to resign,

rather than put lawmakers through the task of expelling someone from congress. i don't think he's going to last. every democrat is going to vote to expel him. he's going to need 80 republicans. most counts have him at 80 republicans looking to get rid of him. i think his days are numbered. >> reporter: does he have any allies? >> he has allies that are against booting somebody without being convicted. and that is -- there's a legitimate argument to be made there. expulsion is a rare thing done in the house of representatives. but the ethic committee polices members of congress, and they came to a stunning and detailed conclusion about his conduct, and if you're going to say the ethics committee has jurisdiction over members of congress when they come up with something like this, and then it means that you should take action based on their recommendations. now, they didn't directly recommend an expulsion, but a hot of people have come to the same conclusion, when the ethics committee chair put on the floor

a resolution to get rid of them. >> let me ask you about democrats and israel aid. there are a number of democrats that want strings attached, conditions imposed on the aid. what are the conditions, and is that likely to be a part of a package? >> reporter: no, it's not. especially not in the house of representatives. here's the problem. the house passed the package a couple of months ago or last month, time blends together. that tied the $14 billion to israel to irs funding in the united states. obviously that kind of thing hadn't been done before. this led to the senate to put together a larger package with taiwan and ukraine. the idf in what i think is a pretty rare move was up here this week briefing senate democrats on what's going on in gaza, hoping to get them to back off of this, putting strings on this money. i would say the house is never going to accept strings on israel funding, period, so the senate is going to have a tough time getting that through the house.

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anti-semites are taking advantage of the pro palestinian movement to espouse hatred and bigotry towards jewish people,

but rather than call out this dangerous behavior for what it is, we see so many of our friends and fellow citizens, particularly young people who yearn for justice unknowingly aiding and abetting their cause. can you understand why the jewish people feel isolated when we hear some praise hamas? and chant its vicious slogan. can you blame us for feeling vulnerable only 80 years after hitler wiped out half the jewish population across the world, while so many countries turned their backs? >> speaking on the senate floor today, senator chuck schumer gave voice to a growing fear among jews in this country that they are effectively lean, that terror against them doesn't matter or doesn't exist. that fear is not theoretical, listen to what happened on monday night in oakland as the city council debated a resolution condemning hamas. >> there have not been

beheadings of babies and rapings. israeli murdered their own people on october 7th. >> calling hamas is a terrorist organization is flooding our media and doing everything possible to combat. >> i support the right of palestinians to resist occupation including through hamas, the armed wing of the unified palestinian resistance. >> as an arab asking with this context to condemn hamas is very antiarab racist. >> the notion that this was a massacre of jews is a fender bender -- fabricated narrative. >> thank you, your time is up. >> i hear them complain about hamas violence is like listening to a wife beater complain when his wife finally stands up and fights back. >> question, did anyone else notice that those who oppose this resolution are old white supremacists. >> there's been a lot of propaganda, from beheaded babies

to mass rape. >> just because the u.s. and israel deems it so. hamas is a resistance organization that is fighting for the liberation of palestinian people and their land. >> joining us now, former nbc news tel aviv bureau chief and correspondent martin fletcher. two of martin's relatives were the first two hostages released by hamas in october, and he still has one extended family member being held hostage. martin, thanks for being on with us. i'm sorry it's such a disturbing topic. we're seeing this sort of language, not just online, but in real life across this country, among many people. can you just tell us? i mean, you lived there, you have done reporting on this. who is hamas? >> before i get to who is hamas, hamas is clearly not the organization that the people you've just been showing talking in oakland think it is. i mean, i've got to say, i haven't heard those clips before. but i mean, it's so laughable, if it wasn't so sad, the amount of ignorance that they're

displaying, willful ignorance. one has to ask the question, why do they want to believe that kind of stuff? it's such nonsense. who is hamas. look, hamas is the elected representative of the palestinians in gaza. they won the election in 2006 and there hasn't been an election since. they rule by intimidation and corruption. they make sure that the only message coming out of gaza is the message approved by hamas, and what they want is the imposition of islamic law in all of palestine. one has to wonder, you know, when people support hamas, with the slogan from the river to the sea, palestine shall be free, you know, i've got to laugh. because free? that's the freedom you want? this is the organization these people you've just shown us support. that means women in veil, they

kill gay people, that's the freedom. hamas is an organization totally devoted to the elimination of israel, killing as many jews as possible as we've seen, and imposing islamic law on all of palestine. that's what hamas wants and they're a very smart organization. financed in part by iran. and trained also, and equipped by iran. we have to know who they are. they are not the organization that those people you just showed us believe it is. >> wanting the liberation of the palestinian people, being critical of the israeli government, what they have done to gaza in the west bank, that is all legitimate criticism, but that doesn't necessarily mean that hamas is the best representative of that. human rights watch bac in 2022 documented why we don't hear the lot of dissent. they say torture by the fata led authorities may amount to crimes

against humanity given its systemic nature over many years. there have been 252 complaints of torture and ill treatment. 279 of arbitrary arrests in the west bank. for hamas in gaza, 193 complaints of torture and ill treatment. 97 of arbitrary arrest against hamas authorities in gaza. we've seen polling up until october 7th in gaza that talked about how the majority people were not happy with hamas and felt they had no recourse to express that disappointment, that they would not vote for hamas again if there were elections, which by the way, haven't happened in 17 years. so i just, i wonder when you don't hear criticism of hamas from palestinians, from gazans, is it safe to say, looking in from the outside, that that's because they love them? >> no, they don't love them.

but they do love them now, by the way, i would think because the latest polls, you mentioned the poll before the attack, the polls after the attack show a huge amount of support for hamas, and among palestinians. and approval for the atrocities they carried out. a large amount. now, you can put that down to some extent to the moment of war, when israel, like the palestinians believe it's payback time for israel. for the cruel israeli occupation that was over, that is actually over, by the way, but they still feel it is under occupation. so there is a real sense of, hey, we showed the jews, we showed the israelis, well done, hamas. >> just in that sentence, with the israeli bombardment of gaza, and it's been brutal. a third of gaza gone, gaza city almost completely destroyed. 14,000 people dead according to the gaza health ministry, which is run by hamas. is israel helping its cause, helping its cause to eliminate

hamas or strengthening hamas within gaza? >> no, i don't think so. i mean, don't think for a minute that i approve in any way of what's happening in gaza in terms of the israeli bombardment. you know, this is something that israel believed it has to do, and it's creating a humanitarian disaster, which is only going to get worse as the winter sets in. and the cold, the rain, a million people living under canvas in the south of gaza. this is a horrific situation. but israel's government believes this is the way to go, and they're backed by probably the majority of israelis who have to balance this thing about getting the hostages back and eliminating hamas. because otherwise, if they don't eliminate hamas, they know, and hamas has said that hamas will do this again and again and again until they're able to eliminate israeli. there are no good choices. it's only a matter of which is the least worst choice for

israel to adopt in terms of fighting hamas in gaza. there's no clean way to do it. the killing of so many innocent people is horrendous. and yet, what is the solution? a cease fire in which case, as we say, they lay down their arms. israel lays down their arms and in a year or two or three, it happens again, so there are no good choices here. >> martin fletcher, thanks for coming on. appreciate it. >> thank you. thanks, katy. coming up, what issues latino voters are most concerned about heading into the 2024 election. and who they think is best suited to address those issues. don't go anywhere. n't go anywhe. g this kitchen. (vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon. ♪ today, my friend you did it, you did it, you did it... ♪ centrum silver is now clinically shown to support cognitive health in older adults. it's one more step towards taking charge of your health.

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bags, still waiting to get treatment. the headlines here about a respiratory disease outbreak trigger aid larm bells and prompted the world health organization to ask chinese authorities for answers. the w.h.o. said china shared its data that showed no sign of a new disease so far, saying in a statement, "the reported symptoms are common to several respiratory diseases." unlike the unknown virus that emerged in wuhan four years ago that unleashed the covid pandemic. back then, china was criticized for a lack of transparency. what's going around now, according to health officials, is a known mix of flu, rsv, covid, and mycoplasma, or walking pneumonia. the advice from scientists -- don't panic. last year, there were still strict covid rules here, kids masking up and schools locking down. the waves flooding emergency rooms now seen as more of a

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