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the white house is urging israel to show restraint as pressure builds on president biden to call for a lasting cease-fire. here in the u.s., the clock is ticking on efforts to pass but military aid bill by christmas. with lawmakers to making new conditions on israel, funds for ukraine, and even border security as part of the plan. and just a minute, i'll talk to the ranking democrat on the house foreign affairs committee, congressman greg meeks. he joins me with the latest on where all these negotiations stand. and my political panel joins me later as crunch time begins in the republican presidential primary. former president trump and florida governor ron desantis are among the candidates making their case in iowa today with less than a month and a have to

the caucus. another primary debate is looming next week, but we're looking ahead to the general. i'm proud to be joined later on the show tonight by the president of the first historically black college that will ever host a presidential debate later in 2024. we start tonight with congressman greg meeks, democrat of new york. let me start, congressman, by thanking you for joining us and i know you are the ranking democrat on the house foreign affairs committee and you have been sheer of the committee. you've recently went to israel. tell me, let's start at the end of the seven-day cease-fire between israel and hamas. the resumption of bombing in gaza could weaken international support for israel and complicate white house efforts to keep humanitarian aid flowing into gaza.

what is your take on the situation in the positions i've said you hold and have held. >> i'll say this. number one, we've also got to make sure that we're holding amos, talking about the pressure on israel, which we have to do, but there is also pressure on hamas violated the cease-fire on october the 7th. it was a cease-fire agreement up until october 7th. and what hamas has said, they will attempt to do another attack on israel. so we've got to put that in there. now, we've had this seven days of a truce and the exchanging of, getting hostages back and people in president and israel there. i would hope that the dialogue reignites itself. because we know there is still hostages being held by hamas and they need to get all of the hostages out of their.

i would hope qatar and the president of that united states have been doing a great job of negotiating, but we've got to get all the hostages home. and if we're going to get another humanitarian pause -- it needs to be with hamas agreeing to give all of the hostages back, get them back, or show proof of life. >> there have been, congressman -- but there is pain, congressman, blame going back and forth on both sides. and i'm hearing you say that we need not only israel but hamas to agree to certain things, that it can't be a one-sided cease-fire because irritating yourself up for even more problems. >> that's exactly right. because what happens in this conversation, all human life is very important. but with also got to make sure we set the context of how to we get where we are now? and that was by hamas breaking

that truce on october the 7th. and hamas knew what kind of reaction israel would have once they broke that truce. and so, and hamas has been one that's utilized palestinians as shields, to protect themselves, and they have these tunnels underground. that being, said i'm also concerned about those innocent lives, babies, palestinian babies who've lost their life. the president of the united states is very concerned, which is why his constant communication and dialogue between the president, the secretary of state, and israel. what i'm looking at now with this next phase is more of an urban attack, because still israel wants to make sure they are destroying infrastructure of hamas. and the question is, how can you do that without having the kind of deaths of innocent

palestinians? my thought is that number of airstrikes that goes out from the ground, from the air to the ground, that may be hit a target but caused buildings around to crumble. that bed. it's trying to reduce that. urban wolf air and tanks, i say, ended it with some people from the media so they are our individuals that can see what's taking place, what hamas is to, what the israeli idf is doing, and how you can avoid some deaths and stomach short you're getting at those tunnels so israel won't have to worry about another attack from hamas. >> and you can't get away from the fact innocent people killed on october 7th that started all of this. you can't be selective in moral outrage and the concern now of innocent people being killed in gaza. i think vice president harris even say it, too many illicit

-- innocent palestinians are being killed, too many israelis killed. congress is hoping to get an israel aid package passed by christmas, but there is disagreement on whether the bill should include ukraine aid, imposed conditions on israel, or address border security as well. what the status of the negotiations? >> clearly then the house we are in a state of dysfunction. the extreme republicans won't put anything forward. so that status in the house is nothing is happening. what the focus is, and what the hope is, and we have been talking to senator schumer that the senate will bring a bill for sometime next week that is bipartisan, seen -- senator schumer, along with republicans that signed on to the bill, that will be included. that will include israel, ukraine, humanitarian aid,

taiwan and the president even said some sense of something for the border, not the draconian bill that that republicans want to put forward, which is cold hr2. so there is a dialogue taking place. i hope the senate since the bill over to the house and the pressure will be put on speaker johnson to put the bill on the floor. i think if he puts the bill on the floor, there is enough democrats and republicans collectively that will pass it. and not allow the extremists in the republican party to prevent that bill to be voted on. >> a special election will be held, let me go get this. a special election will be held in late february and the state of new york, your state and mine, to fill the seat vacated by george santos it was expelled from congress just yesterday. congressman santos fate was sealed by an ethics committee

investigation that uncovered numerous inappropriate uses of campaign funds. what do you make of what happened? >> look. you have a guy that afforded the people of the third congressional district. you have a guy that has lied and lied, i think he's lied more than he's ever said anything of truth. you had an ethics committee that went through and investigated themselves, you've got a person that's been indicted of several different charges. so members of the house came together and said this is not good for the body. and so there was a two thirds vote that was needed to expel him from congress. and therefore, yesterday he was expelled. and network looking, there is an open seat. the people of the third congressional district will get the chance to elect someone that they know and that they can examine. i can tell you, i play a part in the democratic process, as the chair of the queens

democratic organization because part of the state is in queens county. that shear of nassar county, and we are going to sudden together and try and come up with a candidate, a democrat, that people can't depend upon and understand and stop some of the dysfunction that is happening in the house of representatives because of the extremism of the maga republicans that are now in control. >> you and i have known each other a little over 30 years and you always understand that the parliament stuff better than i ever have. i just can't understand how you expel a guy that has 23 counties facing in federal court and has been a pathological liar and some republicans joined that democrats in excluding him, but those same republicans support to make a man with 91 federal counts he is facing and has been found by a judge in civil

court of heaven lied to banks and insurance companies and he want to make an president. you may be able to explain that to meet one day, i don't understand. before i let you -- go >> north to. i >> i want to get your reaction to exchange earlier this week between political reporter april ryan and that white house press secretary kareen jean-pierre over a meeting between president biden and center and cultural icon stevie wonder. take a listen. >> ahead a conversation with stevie wonder last night, potus asking the question, meeting with the president. he's very concerned about the black agenda fall and along the wayside and issues like ones from 15 years ago that are now being abolished or gutted. to include issues like the voting rights act. is that what house amenable to sitting down with stevie wonder, who has met with presidents

throughout history? >> we appreciate what he's been able to do, on behalf of the community. so i can't, as for as a meeting with the president, i'm certainly not aware of any meetings with mr. wonder. >> what do you think, congressman? should the president sit down with stevie wonder? he met with many presidents. >> i don't see anything wrong with him something done with the president. sometimes, he reminds me, reverend, all of our time. one of our great performers, harry belafonte, he was very involved and would sit down and want to talk as part of the civil rights movement. to get out a message. i don't see harm. i love april, she brought it up, she had the conversation. and of course the presidents spokesperson is from my desert. i love her, she's historic. but i don't think there is anything big fear in that regard. and should the opportunity come, we are they can have that dialogue and competition, that's fine.

i remember stevie wonder at the white house when president obama was there. i'm sure they had some conversations. for stevie to have a conversation with the president, should that happen, i don't think there is a big problem with that at all. >> all right, i might, at you and i both knew harry belafonte it well. you are a little older than me when you say our time. thank you, congressman meeks. >> one year, right, one here. >> harry was but little more than one here. but i'll take that from you. now to my political panel, juanita tolliver, democratic party just and msnbc contributor and ryan wiggins is that lincoln project chief of staff. let's start off with the 2024 presidential race. today, ron desantis completes his campaign promise of visiting all 99 counties in iowa. however, he'll be sharing the split with donald trump,

who's also campaigning in the state today. this marks the end of an eventful week for both of them, yesterday a federal judge rejected the former presidents immunity claim in his election interference case, setting up an appeals fight that could delay the trial. and on thursday, desantis sparred with california governor gavin newsom during a debate on fox news. the hawkeye state called -- caucus is just over six weeks away here. when it, what the state of play? >> it's a big old mess for desantis and trump is still flattened for his life and the court, but still 40 points ahead of the rest of the gop field. we can see where it's headed. even and i, where desantis has the support of the governor and his hit all until nine counties, audit think that's going to be enough to overcome trump and his popularity with gop voters. but when i think about judge

chutkan's role, and trump's immunity, i don't think anybody should be surprised by that. and i don't think trump's parties are. because they're about to try to leverage this in the appeals process to play trump's favorite game. daylight, daylight, daylight. because he knows, the only way he can try to avoid prosecution as if he tries to get back in the white house successfully. and he's trying to put off any of these federal trials until after 2024, which would be detrimental to our democracy, arrive. >> on tuesday, koch network formally announced its support for nikki haley. koch will commit its network of activists and funding to her campaign. the next day, jamie dimon spoke out in favor of nikki haley, or during even independent and liberal democrat to get behind her candidacy as an alternative to trump. it seems that after months of fence sitting, many in that republican establishment and

donor class are rallying behind nikki haley. but, ryan, will this help or hurt that primary voters? >> it's not going to matter. i mean, listen. the primary is over. the primary has been over. to juanita's point, trump is leading everywhere. while nikki is a better option than ron desantis, he is still a maga republican. and she's just not trump light in the way desantis is. it is that year of that woman. so you have that republicans putting up a woman who is attractive and she's well educated and she has some experience on international affairs. but she is not going to fall in line as a moderate. so it's just, you know, again, it is a waste of time. i mean, i've appreciate the fact the koch network is investing in her and not in trump. i think that is good for democracy. but, it is not going to matter. she didn't have a chance. ron desantis doesn't have a

chance. none of them have never had a chance. it was always going to trump be. to secure the nomination. >> one is, that president biden is already dealing with sagging poll numbers as he heads into a turkey phase of his presidency. the temporary cease-fire between israel and hamas is over. and new violence will add to the calls for the white house to do something to end the fighting. the military aid package will move through congress, it is now being tied to poor security. an issue for the administration faces difficult choices between addressing immigration concerns and shoring up support among hispanic voters. can biden thread the needle or should he try to push the focus back on issues we are democrats are strong like reproductive rights and protecting obamacare and voter rights? which way should he go? >> we're, of the issues you just named are critically important. but it's important for biden to

address immigration with him on the tight front and center. he can't hide from it and that's not going to be a good move. what he can do is try to use this border funding bill that's going to be tried to ukraine, funding for israel, and more to try to get under to the thicker issues related to immigration, whether it's funding additional resources for courts, for processing, whether it's finding additional resource for migrants to have that humanity and humane conditions that they deserve when they're exercising their right to seek asylum. it should all be greater and humanity and proactive steps because what it seems like, right now, is that republicans -- democrats were operating from behind the ball. and remember, the only present what democrats were ever in an advantage on immigration was because trump was advancing harmful, intimate policies. so ignore it is not the answer. leading with humanity is clearly the direction the pavon administration should go. >> ryan, republican george

desantis suggested he became the sixth member of congress ever to be removed from your state. we don't know whether we've heard that last of santos. today he's threatening to file an ethics complaint against his former colleagues. however, what are your thoughts about his political career? was he simply an unusual character who somehow found his way to congress, or the type of politician we can expect more of in the age of trump? >> i mean, you know, i speak for everyone in this country when i say it is shock and we just expelled the ranking member of the royal family and most popular hollywood celebrity and americas 60's man from congress. this man lied and lied and lied and lied and lied about everything. and, you know, i am relieved. i think there was a minute that we did not know whether or not

that republicans were actually going to expel this man. i am relieved that we don't have someone like that still sitting in congress. do i think he is finished? no. we know he's messy. so he's going to sing like a-powered in the same way madison cawthorn did and it's going to be excellent. i think it's gonna be fun for all of us to watch what's going to come up with george santos coming forward. >> all right, stay tuned. thank you juanita tolliver and ryan wiggins. let's do a quick check on the latest with the israel hamas war. nbc's david noriega is in tel aviv, israel. david, it is past midnight of right there. after another day of fighting, what else can you tell us? other day of fighting, what else can you tell us? >> reverend, after a week of respite, laura has resumed with full intensity, what the idf saying it struck more than 400 hearts across that length and width of the gaza strip. importantly, many of those strikes are happening in the southern heart of the strip, we're a large portion of the

population of gaza was displaced an earlier periods of the war. that gaza health ministry says some 200 people have died in that last to testify. tiktok is, it most of them are women in children. idf says it does not target civilians, it paramus militants. and infrastructure. it points to the fact it's given detailed instructions to those and the south is too safe places to evacuate. people on the ground and gaza, however, say they have already evacuated, in many cases more than once, they feel there's no course have to go. meantime, diplomatic efforts to extend the previous cease-fire, have collapsed. both sides withdrawing from the bargaining table. reverend. >> think, you nbc's david noriega in israel. still ahead, elon musk's wild week. the billionaire tech entrepreneur traveled have around the world, only to end up back at square one when it comes to corrupting hate speech on x.

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elon musk as f because yours fully his x platform of our content glorifying not sees. musk travel to israel to show solidarity with the jewish community, by touring the scene of a hamas attack with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. whatever goodwill musk might have generated with the trip was quickly squandered when he returned to the u.s. for an interview where he had a blunt message for companies lowered about two imperiousness with him. >> if somebody is going to try to blackmail mate with advertising, blackmailed me with money, go [bleep] yourself. >> that tech billionaires latest antics are yet more

evidence he's probably either unable to confront a serious problem of hate speech on x. last week, musk responded to the appetizer boycott by attacking that watchdog group that sounded the alarm about nazi content. he filed a lawsuit against media matters, claiming it manipulated images in an effort to hurt his business. media matters says that lawsuit is a frivolous attempt to bully them into silence. elon isn't even trying to deny that hate speech is a regular occurrence on x, because he can't. researchers documented the significant rise and hateful content within weeks of musk's takeover. a situation that has only gotten worse since the outbreak of the war between israel and hamas. musk has long defended his policies by describing himself as a free speech absolutist. but those arguments grow flimsy

by the day. the center for countering digital hate found that x is failing to remove posts that violate its own rules regarding misinformation, antisemitism, and islamophobia. you can't have a free and open dialogue and a town square that feels unsafe. it's true that hate speech has always been an issue for social media platforms, but while most tech executives are at least trying to combat the problem, musk has chosen to pour gasoline on the fire. he spent this week trying to change that narrative, but failed to address the issue. people still feel unsafe on the site. the guy who claims to be so smart, elon hasn't got a clue. i gotcha. i lue. i gotcha shortness of breath,

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politicsnation. this, week the commission on presidential debates announced virginia state university will host the second presidential debate of the 2024 cycle on october 1st. the first time a presidential debate will be hosted at a historically black college or university. joining me now is the president of that hbcu makola abdullah. thank you for joining me today mister president and congratulations on this selection. can't you talk about that historical importance of hosting this debate? >> first, i want to thank you for having me on your show, and thank you for congratulating us. we are very excited. i think the historical significance, we all want to make sure that young people, particularly young african americans, those students that attained virginia state university, they begin to really participate in the

political process. what better way to have them understand what it means to vote then to bring the scenario right to them. not coincidentally, the building where the presidential debate will be held is our polling place. so we're breaking the entire event to virginia state and hopes they will combine their activism with -- >> the first presidential debate will be hosted at texas state university on september 16th, and hispanic serving institution for nearly 43% of students or first interaction. how do you think these massive gedtforms can best be levera to address the issues of importance to black and hispanic voters? >> look, i think forest, with got to commend the commission on presidential debates for making these two historic elections. and hispanic serving institution and and h babysit

you. i think it's time for institutions around the company to put -- to engage young african americans, engage our communities, to make sure the question that needs to be asked or asked at the debate. questions that mean something for the students and communities we both serve. >> as i'm sure you're aware, the current american front runner isn't a big fan of debates. former president donald trump has criticized the format of many debates he's participated in over the years. and he hasn't shut up for any the primary debate so far. under pressure from trump and other candidates, that republican national committee is currently considering changes, including 11 candidates to participate and non sanctioned debates. how concerned are you about the future of debates, which have been a traditional part of our democracy, going all the way back to lincoln and douglass

before the civil war? >> i think, first, as a debate host site, we encourage all of the candidates who are eligible to be and the debate to show up for the debate. as an american, i think we should all be concerned. we know that seeing our candidates and being able to talk about the issues is paramount to our nation's democracy. i'm rooting for a candidate to come. more importantly, i think it's not really about the candidates. it's more about the issues for our students. we're having this offense on campus, even if, heaven forbid, one of the candidates doesn't show up. it allows us to not just teach about civics in our political science classes -- but this debate is already spurred confessions on canvas, in many of her courses, to educate our students on how important it is to them. >> before i let you go, nbc -- news nbc news poll found 20% of blip voters would consider

voting for donald trump if that presidential election were held today. president putin has been fluent support from black voters, according to these new polls. especially younger ones. as someone who has plenty of contact with young, black, politically engaged americans, what are you hearing -- i'm not asking you to take aside either way, but what are you hearing about their thoughts in this upcoming election? >> i tell you what. what i hear is a generation of politically active young people who desperately want to make sure they can have change in the world. i think our job is to let them understand how important voting is in a process. that with activism, with boycotts, with protests, there is also hope. what i hear from students, what i hear from young people, is that they don't understand how much voting, how voting can't really help them. and i think there's a part of this process that we need to educate them, so that no exactly how that works.

>> makola m. abdullah, thank you, and maybe we can arrange for a politics nations appearance before the debate. coming up, new research shows conservative attacks against the lgbtq community may be backfiring in corporate america. we'll be right back. we'll be right back. how do you know? let me show you something. it looks like a credit card, but it is the kardiamobile card. with kardiamobile card, you can take a medical-grade ekg in just 30 seconds, from anywhere. kardiamobile card is proven to detect atrial fibrillation, one of the leading causes of stroke. kardiamobile card is just $79 during our holiday sale, a $20 savings. get it for yourself or a loved one at kardia.com or amazon.

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politicsnation. while conservatives have aggressively targeted companies like disney and ab inbev for championing lgbtq inclusion, a new report finds businesses have not been deterred by the backlash, in fact corporate support for lgbtq community in 2023 is higher than it ever has been. joining me now is kelly robinson, president of the human rights campaign foundation. ms. robinson, thank you for being with us again. your organization's 2023 corporate equality index shows record breaking corporate business support, this year, among nearly 1400 companies participating in the survey. what's driving these efforts? >> i'm really proud to be here. i'm so proud of the human rights campaign. where that largest civil rights

organization for lgbtqi+ people in the country. we have been conducting the corporate quality index for about 20 years. and the time, with saint-lambert chant. right now, we're 11 and as that of american city for the lgbtqi+ community with hundreds and hundreds of anti pieces of legislation moving and states across the country, one in five of every hate crime think motivated by anti lgbtq+ bias, but it's in this context because we modified it than ever to stay with us. because we're seeing people across the country look more to their boss and employer to protect the rights and the government. , i think the results on the survey show again and again and other sign that diversity, equity and inclusion is actually a powerful practice for businesses, not just because it's the right thing today, but because it's the best thing for their business. >> the fbi reports nearly 14% increase and hate crimes based on sexual orientation.

and nearly 33% jump and head crimes based on gender identity and the past two years. but you and your organization declared a state of emergency noting not just that threat of physical violence, but also a spike in legislation hostile to the lgbtq+ communities of americans. why is the community under such attack right now? >> it is extremism playing out. it's politics as usual, and it is said. there used to be some lines people wouldn't cross, right? you don't go after kids. there are not respecting that anymore. so much of the bed legislation website moving has been attacking children, particularly trans kids. and for me, i've been in this role about a year. and we can't look at stats and figures all day. but i've actually talked to the people. i've talked to patients receiving death threats for providing lifesaving care to children. i've talked to mothers and fathers and families, aunties

and uncles, that are leaving their estates they've lived in for generations because it's no longer safe for the kids. i've talked to librarians and dry queens, being met with ar-15s on their way into work. the truth is, this isn't just one state of emergency. it's millions and millions of the state of emergency that are playing themselves out in community after community day after day. this is one of those critical moments, where we've got to demand more of every institution. at four plus, like we're doing through the corporate quality in the cause. of our schools, a place that we live. places that we get our healing and hospitals and costumes. we have got to expect more of all of these institutions, to stand up formatively for lgbtq+ rights. and the thing, is that power is in our hands right now. the power of a tool of the corporate quality index is it gives us the ability to start to make decisions about where we work and use our talents, about where we buy and use or consumer power, in service of our values. >> in addition to politicians

attacking the lgbtq community, you have an increasingly conservative supreme court. not only did the high court this year rule in favor of web developer who refused to create sites for same sex weddings, you also ahead a repeal of race based affirmative action and higher education, ruling some could curtail diversity and inclusion efforts of all types. how concerned are you about the legal environment right now? >> it's precarious. but i'm very clear that these are politically motivated attacks. phase paces of legislation, these court cases are making their way to the supreme court, have nothing to do with protecting people and our families. in fact, it was the alliance defending freedom that was behind the three or three creative case you told about, that has not created an affirmative loophole for

discrimination against lgbtq+ the community. they were the same organization that back the top decision that overturned roe v. wade. this is a political line of attack, and we've got to see it for what it is. and i think the opportunity in front of us is to mitch or we are responding in kind. 2024 could not be more important. the issues are at stake right now, the rights we worked hard to get over the last 20 years, 40 years, that last 400 years are fundamentally at stake. what i think about the challenges facing the lgbtq+ community, this is a civil rights challenge of the moment. we need to make sure that people are seeing it for what it is. because if we're able to turn out and turn out strongly in 2024, it is possible that we can change the tide on this train of attacks. >> what stands out to me from your research, that while the lgbtq community is being embraced by corporations and in the culture like never before, they're also facing an unprecedented level of hostility in our politics, in

particular from the far-right. what do you think explains these conflicting trends and is there anything that can be done about it? >> this is always been the push and pull of progress, right? and i think, part of the reason we're seeing such extreme attacks from her opposition is because they know how powerful we are. they see the same numbers we see. every day, 2200 lgbtq+ americans are turning 18 years old. one in four of generation z identifies as a member of our community. not only that, all consumers are two times more likely to want to buy from a company or a brand that stands with our communities and with horses. they, nowhere supple and that's what we're seeing these types of attacks. i, think our job right now is not to forget how powerful we are, and to use our power when it comes to where we are buying our coming into this holiday season, and to certainly use for power at the pellet box next year so we

can make sure all of this anti-, all of these numbers translate and political outcomes that will serve our communities. >> kelly robinson all of the human rights campaign foundation, thank you for being with us. up next, my final thoughts, stay with us. stay with us the subway series? it's the perfect menu lineup. just give us a number, we got the rest. number three? the monster. six? the boss. fifteen? titan turkey. number one? the philly. oh, yeah, you probably don't want that one. look, i'm not in charge of naming the subs.

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anniversary of the day when rosa parks boarded a montgomery, alabama city bus and refused to yield her seat to a white man. parks arrest led to the first large-scale u.s. demonstration against segregation. four days later, the montgomery bus boy by boycott began. tomorrow we will be joined on this show by alabama congresswoman, terri sewell, who has proposed a bill to make december 1st a federal holiday in honor of parks. i was honored in 2005 to be among the speakers at rosa

parks's funeral in detroit. and one of the things people need to understand is rosa parks, unlike many have written, was not a black woman coming home from work who was tired and sat in the front. she was unintentional history maker. who decided to defy the laws of segregation and sit in the way of a continued practice of legal apartheid in the south. as we look now at affirmative action and other things, voting rights, other things being changed in our time, we all need to have a little rosa parks memory of sometimes, you have to stand up and stop injustices from reoccurring. sometimes, you have to speak out. sometimes, you have to push back. we are sometimes, like rosa, you just have to take a seat and get in the way. we will be right back.

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thanks for watching. i will see you back here tomorrow at five pm eastern for another brand new live hour of politicsnation. american voices with alicia menendez starts right now. >> thank you so much, reverend sharpton. hello, everyone, i'm alicia menendez. we begin tonight with renewed fighting in the israel, hamas war. israeli forces now focusing on southern gaza. releasing a new round of airstrikes following a temporary truce. new video this evening shows israeli rockets firing into gaza. now that fighting has resumed, israel defense forces says it has hit 400 new targets in gaza since the end of the temporar cease-fire. the idf says, these strikes of targeted hamas tunnels and command and control centers. meanwhile, the israeli military published a new map dividing gaza into hundreds of small zones. israel plans to use it to alert