museum devoted exclusively to documenting african american life, history, and culture. and we are all very excited about its future. thanks so much for watching symone on this sunday. i'm simone sanders townsend. for more, you can find us on instagram, the site formally known as twitter, and -- elle sharpton is next. and steven horsford will join him. right, i hear you are going to be asking the congressman about priorities in the new year? >> absolutely. absolutely, i'm asking him about priorities and congress and the congressional black caucus in these times that we are facing real challenges and black america. i want to know what is the priorities in the caucus and congress following the fabulous symone. and thank you as always. good evening, and welcome to

politicsnation. tonight's lead, last-ditch effort. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> senate negotiators have been meeting this afternoon trying to hammer out a deal on immigration. president biden's homeland security chief met with lawmakers on the hill earlier in the day. majority leader chuck schumer -- delayed the holiday recess, hoping for a breakthrough on a bill that would also include military aid for israel and ukraine. if a bill cannot be made in the next several days, both chambers will have to take it up next year alongside a spending package to avoid a government shutdown. and in the house, there will be the matter of and impeachment inquiry into president biden. launched this week at the

origin of that republican leadership. all this as the first presidential nomination contest is now less than a month away and iowa. and black voters across that south are literally so when the states that live in, over voting district maps that -- they contained designed to suppress the vote in 2024. and in georgia, former president donald trump's lawyer rudy giuliani is threatening to fight the $148 million verdict against him yesterday -- his effort to cast doubt on the 2020 election. joining me now to talk about all of this, plus the top priorities for the congressional black caucus, in the new year, is the chair of that caucus, nevada congressman steven horsford.

congressman, mister chairman, thank you for being with us. let me start with the state of play in washington. democrats in the senate have delayed their holiday break to work on a military aid bill for israel and ukraine that could also include border security measures. republicans have requested they discuss this, and earlier today homeland secretary mayorkas met with senate negotiators at the u.s. capitol. with no framework reported having emerged on boulder or immigration reform. but some signs of progress, according to senate participants. still, as we mentioned, gop house leadership has already gone on recess. what are you hearing about how this will play out, mister chairman? >> good evening, reverend al. it's great to be on. thank you for having me. congratulations to the --

who just beat the howard bison here in georgia, to help defend my colleague congresswoman lucy mcbath and congresswoman -- williams under assault by extreme maga republicans who want to deny equal representation here in the congressional representation in congress. but we had an opportunity to go out and celebrate the game today. so regulations to the rioters. is you have seen, we have very keen important issues still facing the congress. because republican obstruction has -- >> let me stop you right there for one second, because we have congressman lucy mcbath on. and that's one of the things i mentioned in the opening. they are redistricting all over the country, particularly in the south. and we'll get to the priorities of the caucus, but that has to be a concern to you. >> as you know, and i want to command that national action

network and so many other organizations leading this fight, that georgia republican legislature and governor have defied the supreme court's ruling and order to pass constitutional districts that ensure fair representation and a voice for black voices and voters here and the state of georgia. and unfortunately because of what the republicans and the georgia legislature did, they literally are trying to deny lucy mcbath the opportunity to continue to serve in the house of representatives. and so as the chair of the black caucus, i'm here to send a very clear message we will not allow that to happen. just as we worked to protect equal representation and the black voices and alabama and louisiana, we are here in the state of georgia to make sure

we protect fair and equal representation and these congressional lines as they are decided by the courts. >> the reason i wanted you to address that is because we are literally seeing the methodical attempt to disenfranchise let voters by drawing lines that would cost black representation in the congress. so this is a sense of urgency i don't think a lot of people are getting. they're literally drawing lines that drove people into districts that are members of your caucus, they'll have a hard time getting reelected. republicans would get elected and it would bring down the number of black representation and the congress. we are talking about an existential threat to some of the members of the caucus, in the congressional black caucus. >> and in addition to adjust the threat of that number of members, it's about denying the

voices of black voters investigate of georgia, like they attempted to do an alabama and louisiana. look, reverend al, we have talked about this before, right? these are people who are trying to have a direct assault on our democracy. and how have they done? it they have done it by denying and suppressing voters. they have done it by trying to pack black voters in two districts or to pass illegal and unconstitutional, and infect discriminatory boundaries for both congressional lines as well as legislative lines. and so as the congressional black caucus, we're working hard to make sure that does not happen and that we are in a position with our allies to pass maps that are fair. and we are going to do that on because of my colleague, representative lucy mcbath in the state of georgia. >> that's why i've been saying to people, this is not about a

fight between who's the oldest or whatever. we are talking about some interest here that was one with blood shed, jail, even death to get right to vote. that is not possibly -- it is under siege as we speak. also, as we deal with congress coming back, before house republicans left town this week, they voted unanimously for an impeachment inquiry into president biden, even though they offered no, zero evidence of the crime. what is the point of this probe, congressman? >> well, the republican attempt is to distract from the fact that republicans have no agenda. for the american people. in fact, they're trying to take away freedoms, protections, and rights for the american people. whether that's woman's right to make their own health decisions, our rights to have access to that ballot box, or oh the freedoms that we hope they are

in this country, including that rights to economic justice, which is a major focus of the congressional black caucus going into 2024 congressional here. the house republicans have no basis of evidence to bring this impeachment. in fact, their own people who testified in the hearings could not state with any evidence why they were bringing this impeachment inquiry against president biden. and that is why it's important that every one of us do what we can to show up and make sure that our voices are heard in the upcoming 2024 elections. the up>> while you talk about t, let's quickly get to some other topics of interest. because i don't think, again, since of urgency with all americans understand that that last half a century of social justice, women, for blacks, for

other people, that have been discriminated against, they are literally trying to wipe out. one of the things you mentioned, economic justice and economic empowerment. your caucus issued a letter to americas corporate leaders yesterday, calling for an update on diversity commitments made after the murder of george floyd in 2020. your call for accountability comes at a time when many on the right are attacking that mere existence of diversity programs. and starting, a guy -- new york billionaire attacked the president of harvard saying she's a dei person who got the job for that reason. literally attacking things that were achieved. what are you expecting to hear from these companies as members of congress that can hold them accountable in these areas? >> what we expect from corporate america is that they will, number one, of their

commitment to diversity, equity and inclusion, to make sure that within four companies they are doing everything to uphold the voices of people of color within their companies, to ensure representation at the highest levels, from the c suite to the board of directors. we are asking for information about the impact that companies are making in the communities in which their companies operate, and the investment that they are making. and finally we are asking what they are doing to advance national policy around closing the racial wealth gap, which, if we were able to close the racial wealth gap, based on parity, here in america, for black americans, it would mean creating 650,000 more black owned small businesses. it would help let 30 million black americans into that middle class. it would save 3 million black

lives a year because, when you improve the economic conditions of black people, you improve their health outcomes. these are the issues that the congressional black caucus are working on, along with the black economic alliance, the national urban league, the national action network, the naacp, and others. because we understand economic justice is social justice in this moment. >> now, you and several members of the cbc war in atlanta this week to tour and affordable housing context -- complex -- recently opened up in the city's book a neighborhood. it and cooperated retail space and community gardens with more than 140 residential units, many of them subsidized for homeless and at risk precedence. what can you tell us about this project? >> i want to thank representative mike emote williams for identifying this

project. one of the biggest issues our constituents talk to us about across the country's that need to provide more access to affordable housing. whether it's in my home state of nevada in las vegas, where rates have increased 30% since 2019, or communities across the country including here in atlanta. so with the project, we are touring and the investments that are being made, we are looking at ways in which we can develop public private partnerships to bring down the cost of housing to make housing more affordable, particularly homeownership for first time home buyers. and to help create wealth for black americans. and one of the ways to do that is by building equity through homeownership. this also helps lift up communities by increasing the values of our communities and making sure that investments through banks, venture capital

firms, and others are invested in our community in ways that tackle critical issues like access to affordable housing. so i want to command representative williams and other members who are working to bring this type of innovative projects, because these are the types of examples that we are working to uplift, along with the biden harris administration. i want to get a shout out to vice president harris who was here with us in atlanta for the game today. she is everywhere, trying to make sure we are leading the people where they are, and we are putting people over politics in this moment. >> i saw her and the second gentleman there at the game, also dealing with these issues. i'm going to stay on these issues, because, again, i think people need to have a sense of urgency about it. and we'll stay on it on the show, and as you know, i work as president of the national action network on these issues

every day and not. -- >> thank you for being with us, i might also tell you, mister chairman, congresswoman williams who you mentioned a couple of times will be on the show tomorrow. not steven horsford, always good to have you with us. let's bring in senate political panel. joining me now is democratic strategist juanita tolliver and republican strategist susan del percio. both are msnbc political analysts. juanita, i have to start with rudy giuliani. friday he was ordered to pay $148 million and damages for defaming two election workers, ruby freeman and her daughter shaye moss after he repeatedly and falsely accused them of carrying out and elaborate election fraud scheme in georgia. without producing a shred of evidence. he wouldn't even take the stand to testify. because of giuliani's lies, miss ruby and shaye were

inundated with vicious threats and racist insults. it's ironic that two black women are the first to bring giuliani to justice when the black community suffer during his time as that mayor of the city of new york, through policies like stop and frisk and broken window. what impact will this roll and have, especially as trump and his allies gear up for another election? >> rife, this is definitely a full circle moment. and while rudy giuliani says it is absurd, i think it's accountability and this is the same accountability that will be waiting for trump or any of his other allies who tried to go down the same path rudy giuliani did, with targeting election workers, many of whom are volunteers. and prompting them to be faced with harassment and targeted violence and for years. so i think this is an example of what they can expect in the courts have held accountable.

and i just appreciate ruby freeman and shaye moss flora fighting this fight. while the headline is $148 million, we know that no amount of money will account for the anguish, the stress, the trauma that they've experienced since november 2020. and i think that something we need to keep in mind. because again, these election workers are merely doing the work of our democracy, making sure people can cast their votes and their votes are counted. and what giuliani did and the situation was try to leverage them within the entire line that trump was pushing. and so again, i hope this is a warning call to anyone else who's considering doing anything like this again in 2024. >> susan, before i move on, your take on this whole giuliani saga? >> absolutely, i agree juanita with. the soft as a valuable message, saying, you'll be held accountable. i keep thinking about how fortunate we were in 2022 that we didn't see a lot of violence at all.

i'm hoping again for 2024, we'll see zero violence at the polls. but these women are heroes. i know election workers, i've worked with them for 30 years. and these are people who go to the polls, 6:00 and that morning. there they are all day. they are helping some of our democracy. and it is absolutely fitting, given that vial, horrible, insightful things that rudy giuliani said about this woman. and by the way, a whole lot of other people. but bravo to these women for coming forward, because it kept the issue front and center. >> susan, while i'm talking to you, let me bring up -- while the bill is coming to you for trump allies over that thick lie, i was surprised to hear this from florida governor ron desantis on the campaign trail yesterday. take a listen. >> if trump loses, he will say it's stolen, no matter what.

absolutely. he will try to get legitimize that result. hated that against ted cruz in 2016 and heat will do that. even when the apprentice didn't get an emmy, he said -- i don't think people are going to buy it. >> if desantis knows all this, why did it take and more than a month to acknowledge biden's win in 2020? what did he use trump's fraud claims to justify voter suppression and intimidation efforts in florida, where he's governor? and why does he continue to equivocate on whether the 2020 election was a free and fair election as any other? >> you got me, rev. because at this point, ron desantis as don. he's not going to win iowa, haste not given to when you hampshire, haste not going to win south carolina if he goes that far. his candidacy is all but over. what i found interesting is in that clip you showed, he didn't attack trump too much. he just kind of said what we all know.

trump says the election was stolen. but he's definitely looking towards 2028. and i think he's trying to not anger to many trump supporters from when he does make a run once again in 2028. >> juanita, earlier today, talking about trump. donald trump had a rally in new hampshire, following reports he had a binder containing highly classified information related to russia's effort to interfere in the 2016 election had gone missing and the final days of the trump administration. a u.s. official tells nbc news the senate intelligence committee was briefed on the binder two years ago. oh that they could not say whether the documents containing highly classified raw intelligence had ever been found. what's your reaction to these latest developments? >> as if we needed another proof point that this man cannot be trusted and that he's a threat to our government, our

nation. and the fact that he had access to the sensitive intelligence, which, according to reports, was locked in a safe within a safe before it made its way to the white house, it's telling. right, i guess we should pile this on to the other boxes he took from the white house and head down in mar-a-lago, the 40 federal count that emerged in that legal action. i think it just goes to show, trump cannot be trusted. and if this information, which has been missing for the past two years, continues to be missing, i just have so many questions about where it could be. and i'm sure, intelligence officials, the fbi, the cia, that national security council, have those same questions. which is denim for all of us, right. so going into 2024, i think this needs to be a part of the messaging that democrats leverage in the election aut what he cannot be trusted to be an occupant of the white house ever again. >> so listen, this week new

york's highest court cleared that way for democrats to redraw the states congressional district, but angela i think gains republicans made in new york in 2022. and possibly tilting control of the house representatives to democrats in 2024. how significant is this ruling to that national political picture next year? >> it's very significant, but i just want to, holograms, those maps currently in place were not drawn by republicans. they were joined by democrats and the court found them to be two gerrymandered which is now illegal in the new york constitution. this is all done by democrats drawing those lines. but nationally, it is very significant. come january 1st, there is going to be a two state majority floor republicans. and they need every vote they can get. frankly, i don't see how they hold on to the house. of the six districts, three are

absolutely competitive. two are most likely to flip. so it will change that landscape, obviously. and i think it will lead to democrats, a hakeem jeffries speakership. let's put it that way. >> we have to leave it there. this was. good juanita tolliver and susan del percio, thank you both. coming up, donald trump wants to give his supporters the clothes off his back. but not for a free. i'll explain next in tonight's gotcha the united states postal service. delivering for america. marlo thomas: my father founded saint jude children's research hospital because he believed no child should die in the dawn of life. in 1984, a patient named stacy arrived, and it began her family's touching story that is still going on today.

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politicsnation. as the next presidential election year is set to be underway and a few weeks, new polling shows president joe biden trailing former president donald trump amount right toward voters in that battleground state of michigan. however, anything can happen in this next 11 months. the poll also finds almost half of the voters and michigan say that if trump is convicted of election interference charges, that should disqualify him from the presidency. joining me now is the lieutenant governor of michigan, garlin gilchrist. think you for joining me tonight, this evening, lieutenant governor. lete go right to it. there are probably a few reasons for the sliding pole for the president in michigan. one of them -- arab communities in your state are dissatisfied with president

biden over the handling of the war between israel and hamas. what are you hearing about biden's standing in your state from your perspective? >> good to be here with you. i spent time in communities across michigan every single day. and what i hear people -- they want to make sure they can feel the progress, that they hear about, when they hear from democrats around the country. and in michigan, may and the governor worked hard to bring that message every single day. that's what we show up in every community we talk about. not only about jobs being created, but how we're putting money in peoples pocket. democrats are fighting for them, and -- we've worked hard and michigan to put money in people's pockets for parrot people and michigan who had their pensions text 12 years ago. we wrote back that tax and put thousands of dollars in families pockets. that's what democrats are doing. and if the president can carry that message -- it will help the president, to. >> on monday, governor gretchen

whitmer repealed a state law that required women to have a separate rider on their insurance plans for abortion coverage. as we head into the next election year, our abortion rights set to become a priority for your administration and what other issues are you set to focus on to michigan voters? >> reproductive rights have been a priority -- for people. the truth is, to have a child or not have a child, to grow a family or not have a family. that is the most important consequential financial decision that a person can, make that at women can't make, that a family can make. we need to make sure we protect those options, protect those rights -- up to and including abortion services. that bill the governor signed to repeal that ridiculous anti medicine, anti woman writer built, that was subject necessary to complete what we call the reproductive health act. it really informs that everyone in michigan --

needs to have access to reproductive health. man mate woman in michigan to have access to their full report of health. so this is economic -- it's about freedom and autonomy. and also it's -- the other issues. we here in the state of michigan have backup illiterate when it comes to responding to climate crisis with our aggressive goals on really challenging the innovators and our state to state up to have us be a contribution will -- by 2040. we have the number one clean envy center job economy. those are jobs we are looking to make sure people have the skills and education, communities like detroit and all across the city to step into those jobs, those careers. they can build wealth and build a healthier state of michigan. that's what's going to help people to, and help democrats win, help us hold on to our trafficker and help the president by having him would next year. >> michigan's visit to be the first state in the country to automatically register people to vote as the person. governor gretchen whitmer signed a bill this week, allowing people who complete

their felony sentence to an automatic pathway to become active voters. why is this bill so important? >> rev, this is about political power and opportunity and restoring it to people that have it. let me tell you a story. when i talk to people, i'm talking to black man, i want to get them engaged in the political process. and they get ready to do it, they say, i'm ready to be part of it. but i can fight because i just came home. we are making it clear. and the state of michigan, whenever you are not serving a sentence, even if you're on probation, you can vote at michigan. we don't have problems other states have. does logos a step further. it's, is once you have completed your time in person and michigan, your rights will be given to you automatically, and immediately. that justice is yours and there will be no various between you and that justice. that's what democrats

represent. we want people to vote. we want people to participate in the political process. we know this will -- give people the rights to have their votes cast and calm -- counted. this is about building power and we're talking about especially motivating voters in the black community and communities of color. this legislation will help people be able to participate in a political process in this election and beyond. i want everyone to vote. i'm not afraid of voter that what republicans are afraid of butters and michigan. i am a black voter in detroit, and i want to see all of my brothers and sisters cast their ballots. >> i was talking to reverend charles williams, head of the national action network in michigan. he told me about, and i want to ask you about, michigan's juvenile justice system. on tuesday, you brought into law, new adjustments to the system, including mandatory mental health and risk assessments screenings, and fake reduction's. what impact are you hoping to

see out of this, and why did this -- why did you feel this was important? >> right, i was really proud to be able to sign that legislation into law personally. because the truth is, every system that does not position our young people for success is a failing and broken system that must be reformed. and that's what was happening in our juvenile justice system and michigan. whether it's the largest system in our state -- to juvenile systems across the upper peninsula of michigan. every community has families who've been felt by the system. i lit a task force on juvenile justice reform, that the governor created in 2021 and ask me to leave. we had lots of letters, lowers, and more. people directly in the juvenile system, have been through the system, or her family and with a system. and we -- only because your family didn't have enough money to get you. we have provided more funding, revolution new funding for division programs.

because you can help children in other ways that by locking him up. that's often not a way to help position a child for circus. this is important to me because i want every child at michigan to see a future. even if you made a mistake, you have a right to feature -- i'm so proud of the election, and it was done on a perilous basis because that's because of our children is not partisan. >> that's right. thank you for being with us, lieutenant governor gilchrist, and thank you again for joining us this evening. just ahead, blip voters are objecting out to preserve their power at the ballot box. i'll explain after the break. explain after the break ? how's your heart? - it's good. - is it? - i don't know. - it's okay. - it's okay. - yeah. - good. - you sure? - i think so. - how do you know? it doesn't come with a manual and you're like oh, i got the 20,000 day check up, right? let me show you something. put two fingers right on those pads. look at that. that's your heart.

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politicsnation. with that country closely divided along partisan lines, many races could bake a-sided by who is able to cast their ballot and where. black voters and several sovereign states including uisiana, alabama, south carolina, mississippi, and georgia are legally challenging voting maps drawn by republican state lawmakers to dilute the power of voters of color. the outcome of the cases could determine the future of voting rights and the voting rights act in this country. joining me now is patrick marley, national reporter for the. we appreciate you joining us

tonight, patrick. tell us a little bit about these cases and why they are being filed right now. >> thanks for having me on tonight. every ten years states have to draw new maps because of changing population, as detected by that u.s. census. they have to measure all that u.s. congressional districts have equal population, and the legislative districts have equal population as. well they got underway on this in 2021 -- the case got -- sent to the supreme court and help us appreciate what considering that, many of the cases like the ones and louisiana could put on hold. the supreme court this summer rolled in favor of the voters who fought the lawsuit for a new map to be drawn to ensure that black voters in a second district could elect a candidate of their choice. so now that case has been resolved, all these other cases

are being restarted. so we are starting to see changes -- judges take out these cases and appeals and possibly some go into that supreme court again. >> talking about supreme court the, it's been a decade since the roberts court gutted the voting rights act and coervative justicescontinue to chip away. a federal appeals court ruled last month, private individuals and groups cannot bring legal challenges against voting maps that they argue out racially discriminatory, leaving it up to the justice department. if the supreme court ultimately opposed that decision, what would be the impact? >> that's got a significant ruling because the vast majority of cases brought under the voting rights act are filed by private parties. that naacp -- conservative groups, others filed this lawsuit. individual voters file. then the u.s. department of

justice files them on occasion, but the great majority of them is filed by these private groups. so the eighth circuit rolled in an arkansas case that only that department of justice can bring these cases. that affects states like arkansas, iowa, the dakotas, missouri. and it doesn't affect states, other states, right now. but this case very likely is going to go to the supreme court. and if the supreme court uphold the eighth circuit decision, yes, it would be only the department of justice that can bring cases and you would see a lot fewer of these lawsuits even get to court. >> your reporting this week cites a post-dot analysis that found at all seven out of 11 sovereign state, black residents are less likely to be represented in proportion to their numbers by black legislator, state or federal, that despite southern states have the largest black

populations in the nation. i was struck by these figures and how all of this doesn't stack up. larger population, less representation, less black representation. i was struck by this because, you're right, the outcome of these lawsuits will likely determine who controls the congress in that next election. can you elaborate on this? >> sure. first of all, i think it's got to think of an example to the point you're just making. a state like louisiana has six congressional seats. about a third of the population is black. but there is one state that has majority black population. one out of six is a little over a third -- a court has issued a preliminary decision there that would at a second state. we'll have to see how that plays out in the end. we see this and many other states. it's particularly acute as to what the partisan effects of

and who could control congress, next time. because congress right now is so narrowly divided. republicans have just a handful of states. so if louisiana gets an additional seat and alabama gaetz and additional state and in some states, more than a single seat are in play. that could have a dramatic change to who controls congress after the next elections in 2024. >> and a lot of that is reducing that black vote and drawing lines that would lead to less black participation. where, peru your reporting, do you expect to see more of these cases? >> i don't know that we'll see additional cases. i think in most cases going to be fought, especially over the congressional seats, have already been filed. but you've got a lot playing out. louisiana is the most closely watched. north carolina just drew maps that favorite republicans in a racial gerrymandering lawsuit has been filed there.

or a racial delusion lawsuit has been filed there. there are other states with other kinds of rage bidding cases playing out. it's happening all across the country. a handful of states could make the difference as to where whether democrats or republicans hot majority next time. >> patrick marley, of the washington post. thank you for being with us. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. stay with us woman: who's that, who is that? cole: this is my puppy! woman: cancer. it's different in a child. because your child is still growing. charlie: i had 14 rounds of chemo. there's thousands and thousands of kids all over the world who need help. girl: it is my first time having cancer. and it's the very worst. spokesman: saint jude children's research hospital

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