two years organizing people over the age of 60, people like me for work on climate and democracy. and the response has been unbelievable. we've got chapters now in pretty much every state in the country. people just flooding in doing this work. young people care about climate change because they're staring down the barrel of a gun. they know what's coming in the lifetimes. those of us who are little nearer to the exit than the entrance care about it because we don't want to leave behind a planet worse than when we were born on into. that's the most bottom of bottom lines. >> there are those of you, those like you, who have been doing this since you are that young. age now you are in our category. thanks as always for everything you have done for the planet for being with us today. bill is a contributing writer at the new yorker, -- that is for me, stay where you are inside with jen psaki begins right now. psak begins right now >> the big cost of the big lie.

a jury orders rudy giuliani to pay nearly 100 and $50 million to the georgia election workers he defamed in the aftermath of the 2020 election. the attorney for ruby freeman and shaye moss is gonna join me alive. plus, the four times indicted republican front runner is once again echoing the anti immigrant language of adolf hitler. but house republicans seem much more concerned about their feckless impeachment inquiry into president biden. i'll ask congressman -- about all of it. also today, as kate cox fleas texas to get an abortion, ted cruz fleeced from reporters when he's asked about her story. this isn't a messaging problem, it's a policy problem. later, my conversation with the families of hostages taken captive by hamas. i'll ask them about their meeting with president biden this week, their frustrations and how they find hope during the most difficult moment of their lives. ♪ ♪ ♪

ever since donald trump entered the political spotlight years ago, it's kind of seemed like he never really pays a price for all the lies he spread. at times, his conspiracy theories have taken hold so fast, so fast, they outpace the ability to fact-check them. just as often, his disregard for the truth has been so completely out there and so unbelievable it was simply dismissed. for so long, trump avoided consequences for lying and spouting baseless conspiracy theories. others saw that, and guess what? they followed. look no further than the aftermath of the 2020 election. when his allies in congress,'s closest advisers in the conservative media all took and ran with his conspiracies. many of them knowing full well they weren't true at all. all of that helped spark the attack on our nation's capital on january 6th. and an explosion of threats and political violence that followed. and has continued. which makes this moment in history so scary.

but also, so important. we're finally starting to see some signs of accountability. some. hundreds of january 6th rioters have been prosecuted, in the largest investigation in the justice department history. fox news made up an astronomical sum of $787 million in a settlement over pushing election lies. on friday, just two days ago, a jury hit one of donald trump's top conspiracy peddlers, rudy giuliani, with a jaw-dropping 148 million dollar penalty. as the result of a defamation suit brought by georgia election worker's sheamus in ruby freeman. if you watch the hearings on the january 6th committee, it heavily remembered these two women. they struck me, i still remember the. who are the targets of a baseless smear campaign that trump and giuliani pushed after the 2020 election. >> this turns my life upside down.

i no longer give out my business card. i don't transfer goals. i don't want anyone knowing my name. i don't want to go anywhere with my mom, she might yell my name out over the grocery aisle or something. >> there is nowhere i feel safe. nowhere. do you know how it feels to have the president of the united states target you? >> there is nowhere i feel safe. the jury is 148 million dollar judgment is a reminder that actions do have consequences. and as the lead attorney michael gottlieb told the jury in his closing arguments, it should send a message to giuliani or, quote, to any other powerful figure with a platform. and an audience who's considering whether they will take the chance to seek profit and fame by assassinating the moral character of ordinary people. hopefully those who are try and use lies to -- erode democracy heard others

see approximate hundred 48 million reasons not to. joining me now, the attorney for shea moss and ruby freeman, michael gottlieb. first of all, congratulations, i'm sure i was that the only one who was screaming excitement when this came down. given everything these women have been through. i just wanted to start by playing one of the moments that really struck me. it was such a reminder, from ruby freeman when she talked of the judgment, just a reminder of the damage that has already been done. let's take a listen to that. >> i want people to understand this. money will never solve all my problems. i can never move back into the house that i called home. i will always have to be careful about where i go in who i choose to share my name with. i miss my home. i miss my neighbors.

and i miss my name. >> i mean, listening to that, it's just so important to remember, as you've experienced working with them, their lives have already been irreversibly impacted. so, did friday's judgment bring them some peace and any sense of justice? even with what we just heard ruby say? >> yeah, and they are having beyond, jen. it did. i think that it brought an immense amount of vindication, validation, a sense that they took the chance, a big chance, and filing the lawsuit and subjecting themselves to discovery and cross-examination. opening themselves up to being questioned by rudy giuliani's lawyers. under earth. and did all of that to know that their story was heard. that other people felt and

understood it and appreciated it. and that the worth of their dignity and their reputations was recognized by a jury. i think it was a special moment for them. obviously, there's still a lot of work to be done. as you heard ruby say, nothing is ever gonna be able to replace having the life that you've chosen taken away from you, ripped away from you. it was a really important moment i think for ruby and shaye, also for all the election workers and civil servants out there who may be worried that this kind of thing could happen to them. >> absolutely. one of the things she also said, she also made mention of the fact that rudy giuliani wasn't the only person who had defamed them. and when she said that, i was thinking, i'm sure that alone, who is next? who are they gonna take our next? who will be sued next? who is next? >> they have another lawsuit

that still pending against the publication in missouri that was also very much involved in spreading some of these defamatory lies around -- verbally and often. people continue to take the chance for opportunity to repeat these lies they'll hear from us. i think we haven't heard rudy giuliani out on the air on friday and over the weekend, and if he continues to roll the day's by telling the same lies that have been now debunked by georgia election officials by everyone who's ever investigated the matter, now proven to be false in a court of law. where he had the full opportunity throughout the litigation to bring forth any evidence that he thought he had and couldn't do so, if he continues to roll the dice on this, you'll hear from us too. >> will donald trump hear from you guys? >> i mean, donald trump was a

coconspirator in this case as found by the court and by the jury. he's already been adjudicated in the case where we just had this jury verdict as a coconspirator in mr. giuliani's efforts towards the jury awarding this jury verdict. so, i think, like i said before, and this one specific to donald trump or anybody else, but anyone else who wants to take this as an opportunity to try to go out and tell the same lies about these heroes, we'll hear from us. >> mike gottlieb, thank you for what you did with these women. thank you to these women for being so brave. the impact on their lives was astronomical. again, congratulations on the ruling on friday. thank you for being with me this afternoon. let's continue this conversation with our in-house law firm, neal katyal the former acting u.s. solicitor general, andrew weissmann is the former general counsel at the fbi. and a senior member of special counsel robert mueller's team.

great to be back with both of you. andrew, i want to start with you, there's a real question here, which i don't think anyone any of us have the answer to. how much money giuliani actually has. what he'll be able to pay for. were you surprised by the judgment? and what were the options for figuring that out and getting some of this money to these women? >> well, regardless of whether there's any money in terms of its deterrent effect on rudy giuliani and his ilk, it is an important judgment. as you mentioned, the bravery of these two women, like the bravery of e. jean carroll to not be just victims but to seek legal accountability is important, regardless of whether they ever see a dime of the judgment. but mr. gottlieb is going to be just as tenacious in terms of

finding any assets mr. giuliani, and remember, even if he goes into bankruptcy, this kind of judgment is not wiped out by bankruptcy. so, they are entitled to continue looking into take depositions and discovery. it's important to remember, one of the reasons that rudy giuliani is in the position he was in, is because he was in contempt over and over again when beryl howell, the judge on the case, ordered to discovery to be mutual. he did not participate. he didn't say where's assets were. he didn't say anything about that. if he continues to do that, the one thing that the judge has not yet done, but can do, is put him in jail. there are still remedies for the judge to make sure that every asset he has is disclosed, and if not, to take action. >> i mean, michael gottlieb,

i've got a long time. very tenacious. i wouldn't put to face any of you in a court. i'm not gonna put myself in a position. neil, one of the questions and wondering, there was a sterling numbers in terms of the amount of money that giuliani had to pay lawyers just for this case. he's facing civil suits from smartmatic, dominion voting systems, as from hunter biden. others i may be missing here. former assistant. his money he would have to pay lawyers, which could be in the millions, is that something he'll still be allowed to do, even as he owes these women 100 and $48 million? >> so, first of all, i just want to say, when i look at these women, i see really the best of america. it's important remember, these were poll workers. these are people working at election integrity. they got swept up in this. all of these lies and so on, and thanks to michael gottlieb's tenacity, the tenacity of these women, finally there's some

accountability. there still hasn't really been any accountability for donald trump. we're starting to see it with trump's minions, whether it be fox or giuliani. or the lake. you know, with respect to the dollars, i do think that giuliani can pay some attorneys fees, that's the bankruptcy law permits. passed, that andrew is absolutely right. because these are what we call intentional towards bankruptcy can't -- this proceedings. giuliani will have to put up an appeal bond. is it gonna be that 100 $48 million? no. i'm not even sure that rudy giuliani can afford to pay for four seasons landscaping right now. let alone for $48 million. nonetheless, i think whatever he's got is now going to be seized by these two women's. >> that's a real throwback bill. -- this is a civil judgment, a big one. but the big question here, is there any implications from

this for his criminal case. for instance, is this increasing the pressure on him to cooperate with fani willis? given there's obviously an overlap and what he did here? >> well, there are implications in that the prosecutors can see how a jury assess their credibility. and how they did as plaintiffs. remember, civil and criminal or working in parallel. and the allegations the, with respect to ruby freeman and shaye moss, are at the center of some of the charges in georgia. they're also part of the criminal case in d.c.. these two women will be witnesses in both of those cases. the prosecutors clearly are going to look at that and think, okay. this will be a very strong part of the case. in terms of the pressure on rudy giuliani to cooperate, i would say, at this point, there has been tons of pressure in terms of the criminal case, in terms of the monetary damages.

i think the bigger issue is i don't think if i'm a prosecutor i would be high on my list of people to cooperate. as you pointed out, he continued to tell lies and to defame these women. through the trial. that he just lost. this is not the kind of canada you want to cooperate you'll see this criminal day in court, a jury will decide, if you're getting going to jail. it'll be a very sad day in terms of the demise of rudy giuliani. but he will get what he deserves. >> that's right. quite a journey he has taken. neil katyal, into eisman, thank you as always for joining me and for informing us so much of these cases. coming up, donald trump once again echoes the language of adolf hiller with some of the most offensive anti-immigrant language there is. congressman joe neguse is the son of immigrants, and then ask him how democrats should be pushing back.

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planning to cut interest rates next year. there is, of course, also an alternate reality right now. one in which none of that matters. this alternate reality, president biden is plunging the united states into a depression, even though, again, the dow just hit a record high. in his alternate reality, president biden's age alone makes him unfit to serve, well trump, i would note just three years younger, is somehow seen as the epitome of strength and vitality. in this alternate reality, it is the current president, joe biden, who is now the subject of an impeachment inquiry for a mysterious and sprawling scandal no one can explain. involving bribery and corruption. there is, of course, no evidence at all to suggest that any of it is true. that is still the story that is being mainlined into have huge portion of the country right now. >> the white house cranking up the spin cycle after a whirlwind 24 hours for america's foreign cash guzzling father son duo. >> biden family bregman hunter is also deeply dishonest.

the apple doesn't really fall far from the tree. >> the grift is the biden family business. the bidens are like the sopranos, without any of the humor. >> this is the most corrupt family in history of the country. >> this is a joe biden scandal. >> this is gonna be ugly it's gonna be -- it's gonna prove that they were dirty. what they were doing is collecting money with the united states being for sale. >> it's like a never-ending loop of lies and complete any window. echoing through the homes of millions of americans every single day. at least republicans are owning up to one thing. their motivation. they're being crystal clear when it comes to what this is all really about. and that's politics. hurting president biden, in helping donald trump. this has been the most transparent political congressional investigation since i've been in congress for seven years.

>> i think if we don't go down these impeachment routes, a huge part of america is going to just say, you know, we're not supporting republicans anymore. >> there's this other issue of whether joe biden was involved in his son's business dealings, that i think the american people looking at as well. all that together is why you see the numbers where they're at. >> what are you hoping to gain from an impeachment inquiry? >> all i can say is donald j trump 2024. >> they're not even whispering down the hallways. they're shouting the quiet part out loud on television. over and over again. their strategy, tipped muddy the waters, to distract from trump's very real criminal charges, and to make everyone seem equally corrupt, it's kind of working. and it isn't constructive to deny that. a new npr shull poll shows that 78% of republicans are in favor of the impeachment proceedings against joe biden. impeachment proceedings, again, with zero evidence. that is where we are right now. less than a year out from the election, not just dealing with a clash of ideas or policies,

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voted this week to move for the impeachment inquiry to president biden. so, congressman joe neguse had a very simple question. sounded like one to me. for one of them. let's just say, he did not get a very simple answer back. >> what is the specific constitutional crime that you're investigating? >> we're having an inquiry, so we can do an investigation in the production of witnesses. >> what is the crime investigating? >> high crimes, misdemeanors,

bribery. >> what high climber mr. meat or are you investigating? >> once i get time, i will explain what we're looking at. >> congressman neguse joins me now. can i just say watching, i watch a few times, very crunchy to watch that. but i do want to ask you about that new poll i just mentioned. despite the fact that this is completely baseless. the poll shows that 70% of republicans are in favor of impeachment proceedings. as i want to ask, you does that concern you? and what fact you think is not translating here to people? what details are trailing people out there? >> well, it's good to be with you, jen. certainly, that concerns me. i would say it's more a reflection of the extremism that has metastasized within the republican party. and most of the empirical data that i've seen suggests that independent voters do not, at the end of the day, or rather are not, tuning into this force of a process that republicans have initiated against president biden.

my sense is that most americans care about kitchen table issues. economic growth. rising costs. building safer communities. all of which house democrats have been singularly focused on with, of course, the leadership of president biden. no, as this process unfolds, you will find that more and more americans will register their objections to it. they recognize that you stated at the outset. that republicans have conceded, they are doing this for political purposes. they're unabashed about the fact that they are doing this as a political exercise to exact retribution against president trump. excuse me, president biden. on behalf of president trump, but for no other reason i think the american people get it. to your point, there is such an overreach possibility here. we've seen, you go back to the 90s when president clinton was impeached, of course, that was also a different scenario. but there was a political impact. do you think there's potential for democrats to rally around the president and rally together against this overreach.

politically? >> i certainly think, yeah, look, i do not think that this process is going to be to the benefit of republicans. more important in that, jim the, reality that this is doing deep damage in my view to our republic. it's a distortion of the impeachment clause in our constitution. we play the exchange when the rules committee, which was, of course, revealing an instructive. the fact that they can articulate a cogent basis for impeachment. they can't point to any connection to the constitutional standard for impeachment, which of course, as you know, is an exacting standard. the last impeachment that we had, of course, was the impeachment of former president trump. for inciting a violent mob to disrupt the electoral college proceedings on january 6th. that was a bipartisan impeachment. so, the false equivalence that republicans have attempted to create, false fire lat i think the american people understand that. when you look at empirical data, pulling down, it suggests that most americans do not consider

this to be a priority. if anything, agree that it will be a waste of time. they like to see that congress get back to doing the basic work of governing. >> the dangerous precedent piece is such an important point. i did want to ask, you are speaking of donald trump, he's been going, over and over again the language of dictators. he did that once again yesterday. in a speech in new hampshire where he repeated a really awful line he said before, that immigrants are, quote poisoning the blood of our country. we've heard him say it before. it's important not to be numb to it, which is why i raise it. i want to ask you, as a son of immigrants yourself, what's your reaction to him using that rhetoric. >> it's offensive. it's deeply disturbing. i think it's disturbing to the vast majority of americans. irrespective of whether they, like me, happy to be a child of emigrants, as you referenced. we, of course, our nation of immigrants. and we are in my view, at our best when we're a beacon of hope. and liberty to the rest of the world. i don't watch donald trump speeches, but that rhetoric

certainly to me isn't surprising. it's consistent with what he has engaged in the past. it's a reminder, it underscores just how dangerous a second term. a second president for donald trump would be for our country. and perhaps as yet another reminder of why next year's election will be the most pivotable, certainly in our lifetimes. and i believe perhaps in the last hundred years. i think that, at the end of the day, most americans agree that we are at our best, as i said, as a beacon of hope and certainly that's far opposite to what former president trump was articulating last night. >> the house, of course, left for holiday recess without doing anything to fund the government. they're coming back in january, it is a january 19th timely there. how likely do you think there's gonna be a government shutdown? is that something that some people should be preparing for over the holidays? -- >> well, when you do everything in our power, as house democrats, to avert that outcome. i wish i had a better answer for you, jim. the reality is, house

republicans in the last year, they tried to shut down the government twice. but for the support of house democrats, they would have accomplished that objective. they also, of course, almost plunged the country into a default on our debt, which would've been catastrophic. the only thing of consequence or substance that they did in the last 12 months was expelled george santos. and they require democratic votes to achieve that. i am not optimistic that, given the way in which house republicans have conducted themselves, that we will see some light at the end of the tunnel with respect to government funding deadline. we're gonna put people over politics, and do everything we can to find common ground it is sure the government is funded. as you said, if past is prologue, clearly there's must to be concerned about. >> congressman joe neguse, my sisters members of congress, thank you so much for joining me. happy holidays to you. coming up next, republicans get a little tongue tied as the impact of their draconian abortion policies get a name in a face. later, my conversation with three brave families on a mission to break all of the hostages home from gaza. we're back after a quick break.

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representatives of the people back in the various states. and i think that's the correct answer. >> here's the thing, what a story like kate cox puts a human face on the draconian policies they support, they get much less talkative. >> are you worried about a woman in your state whose health may be at risk by texas laws like kate cox? >> well, i'm a federal official. >> this is something that happening in your state. >> i'm not gonna comment on what state officials are doing. >> do you agree with attorney general braxton's action? >> i haven't received an answer. >> is writing it like to say? right now on this? >> call the press office. >> their times are tied because it's no longer about crafting an effective message. they're being confronted did with the reality that their policies are forcing women to suffer. and their policies are the result of a very fixed idea that women should not be able to have complete control over

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launched a terrorist attack on israel. killing an estimated 1200 people. another 240 men, women, and children taken into gaza as hostages. during a seven-day pause in fighting that began last month, about 100 of those hostages were released. since then, the fighting has only intensified. and for the first time this week, president biden described the bombing campaign as, quote, indiscriminate. urging israel to proceed more carefully. according to local health officials, 18,000 palestinians have been killed since the beginning of this war.

70% of whom are women and children. meanwhile, about 135 hostages are still being held. and on friday, the idf announced that three of them were mistakenly killed by israeli troops. even though one was carrying a stick with a white caught on it. hundreds of people gathered in tel aviv last night, calling on prime minister netanyahu to make a deal for the release of the remaining hostages. well all that is unfolding, and the families of those hostages are grieving, the families of those still in captivity continue through everything in the power to bring their loved ones home. on wednesday, the president met with the families of americans being held hostage. and the next day, i got the chance to sit down with three of the families whose lives have been shattered since october 7th. and their loved ones were taken captive. >> i want to start by asking you to talk about the loved ones who are still being held by hamas, or who have, of course, returned in your case, liz. it's important for people to understand these are human beings. and people who have lived lives

and hopefully will continue to. tell us about your loved one. >> he was born in new york city. 22 years ago. a month after 9/11. >> he's a very optimistic kid. he's a kid that's gonna break the ice. he loves people. we really hope that it's keeping him strong there. that kind of part of him that's optimistic. and happy, and he's been able to maintain that. >> -- actually grew up here 20 minutes from this building. he was kidnapped from the army post, surrounded by 20 hamas terrorists. he had to surrender. >> he called me right before they took him. just to tell me that i was hearing all the bombing. he told me, mom, i'm okay.

i'm seeing scary things. he spoke really fast. and then i said to him, okay, please, you don't be safe, i love you. and that's it. >> you've been out there ever since telling people about him so that they remember who he is. i know avigail is back home. she went through quite an ordeal. you described her, sorry, i have a sinus a little over older. you describe your has a late in the world. which is such a amazing visual at this time where people are celebrating hanukkah around the country and around the world. tell us a little bit about how she's doing and how her siblings are doing. >> well, avigail is a light. and we are blessed that she did come back after 50 days. as a hostage. i was in israel last week, i got to play and just be with

abigail in her siblings, and her siblings also they have been put in under the torture of seeing their parents being murdered. but what we all know is that when we give love, and when children are loved and they are embraced by grandparents and aunts and uncles and by community, that is going to be what can give them an opportunity for a beautiful life. >> you all visited the white house yesterday with president biden. and i obviously worked with him for some time. i certainly know that there is sensitivity about what you can and cannot talk about. tell me a little bit about that meeting. >> we with him for we thank him for his leadership role in the administration. in bringing close to 100 hostages back. we're really happy for the families. it's mostly women and children. which we are thrilled that we have -- we also want our son in the

rest of the hostages to come back. we urged his administration to do whatever they can pull any leverage they have to bring us closer to this point where we can be together with our son. >> there was a cease of military action, in a number of hostages who were released, over 100. since then, there's been military action that has resumed. do any of you wish that that had not resumed? >> i'm just gonna say, in 70 days, i am a mom, i'm an adult. and i'm waiting, and it's super hard. it's so hard to wait. but we need to be patient and to keep praying that it's gonna happen. we will have a reunion. but it's so hard. >> well it's really hard to talk about, i think we need to acknowledge that there are wounded people that arrived or

were kidnapped arrived in gaza with a blown off arm, with bullet wounds. with illness. we don't believe they have been seen by anybody that is reputable. we know that the international red cross has not seen them. we know that doctors have not without borders have not see them. no humanitarian group has seen them. i know you said we have to be patient, we can't be patient anymore. these are our families these could be your family. >> there's a lot of pressure on israel. and probably on with good reason to supply humanitarian support to gaza. and to ease a little bit the pain of the people there. where's humanitarian support to our kids? who is visiting them? who is making sure they're fed? they're getting water they're getting there? who is giving them medicine if they need it? taking care of their wounds? >> we're talking still at about

hundred 37 people, right? elderly people. still children in their, women men. who need to access. >> yes. where is the world on that? this is where it all started. >> how come the red cross is not getting visitation rights? that was part of the agreement with hamas. israel fulfilled their side. how come hamas is not allowing the red cross to come in? as a mutual force just to see other kids are doing? how the elderly are doing? give us a sign of life? we are stop and october 7th. >> almost 70 days without knowing where they are. how they're doing. are there wounded, what's going on? how can we let it go on like this? >> i did want to ask you if there is something you'd like to say to your son, if you could hear you right now. >> i just want to say that we love you.

just be strong, be brief. we are coming to get you. people are working to get you. >> around the clock. >> you're coming out. >> he's 19 years old. his 20th birthday on december 29th. two weeks from now. we would like to have him back by the state to be with his little brother that misses him. i know that. >> and his sister. >> our goal is that they are home for christmas. our goal also is that nobody takes their foot off the gas pedal for the next ten, 11 days. because they do need to come home. >> tonight is the last night of hanukkah. we've been playing for a lot of miracles. we haven't had them yet. we have to keep our stories, please help us. keep their stories, all the hostages of arson and everyone.

front of mind. >> our boys are in the dark. holiday of late, both hanukkah and christmas. our boys are, our families are in the dark. we need about. >> my thanks to those brave families for spending some time with me this week, just out there talking about their boys. as much as they can. up next, we're gonna show you a political ad that stopped me in my tracks when i saw it this week. we're back after a quick break. after a quick break

every once in a while, there comes a political advertisement that is so provocative, so powerful it has the power to break through political silos. and really have and stick with you. this week, a new digital ad put up by two advocacy groups and texas put a fine point on something that we had millions of others have been saying for years. that the problem of gun violence in this country is urgent. and it requires far more from our elected officials than thoughts and prayers. that's especially true now that firearms have become the leading cause of death amongst children in this country. make no mistake, the ad you're about to see is disturbing. it's very hard to watch. but it speaks the truth about this issue in a moment when we desperately need it. that's why we decided to end our show today by airing it in its entirety.

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