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president biden's support is slipping and it's at least in part because of his handling of the israel hamas wa that is according to new polling from "the new york times" and the college. registered voters were asked if the election were held told, who would you vote for? biden or trump. trump wins by just two points but amongst likely voters, biden leads by two points. t both by the way are within the margin of error. that is just part of the story though. there are still 11 months until the election with no official republican candidate declared. nothing is set in stone. but there's something even bigger in this polling. the biden camp should be zeroing in on. are they losing support amongst young voters? amongst registered voters 18-29, the former president has a six-point lead. that could be the biggest hurdle for the president's re-election bid over the next year, but there's time. so what are those young voters saying? shaq brewster has more.
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>> voted for biden and i told my friends to as well. >> he's a starbucks worker and union organizer in wisconsin who cast his ballot for biden. do you plan on voting for him? >> not anymore. >> he was part of the surge of voters in dane county that helped biden flip the state three years ago. he's now angry at the president for his support of israel's invasion of gaza. >> he's allowing this war to happen and is funding this war. i don't know what will happen if i don't vote for him, but i know it won't be me supporting that. >> in 2020, polls showed young voters backed biden by more than 20 points but a recent poll shows former president trump leading this group by four percentage points and president biden at risk of losing a key part of his winning coalition. do you plan on voting for him in november? >> i don't know.
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>> 60% of young voters say they oppose more funding and military aid to israel. >> on climate. on covid responses. you could tell his administration were doing really great work, but i think after october 7th, the question became a matter of human rights. >> republican presidential candidates have also vocally supported israel's campaign against hamas but it's president biden's young, progressive base that's been increasingly sympathetic to palestinians. did all of you vote for biden in 2020? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> supporting mr. biden is a conversation, sometimes a debate, that this group of wisconsin friends say they are now having regularly. >> he has the largest infrastructure bill since eisenhower. that's a huge thing. >> not enthused. i'd say overall, i feel very pragmatic and strategic about it. >> in 2020, i looked at biden like a used car. like it will disappoint me. it's not going to have leather
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seats and all the stuff that i want, but hopefully it will get me from point a to point b and i think he did that. >> an easy choice for some. what's the best argument you have for young voters to support joe biden? >> the other guy is way worse. >> it's that simple. >> i think it is. >> young voters who can tip the balance in 2024 already weighing their options. shaquille brewster, nbc news, madison, wisconsin. >> you heard from the voters. let's break down the numbers on the polling with steve kornacki. >> all right. yeah. interesting new poll from "the new york times" and siena. interesting because they've done something the other pollsters haven't yet done. the match-up between joe biden and donald trump if trump ends up being the republican nominee and they polled it this way. this we see commonly. registered voters. broad pool. everybody who's registered to vote could be part of this poll and they have trump leading by
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two points with registered voters. that's consistent. a close race. a lead of a few points in many polls. those polls generally are testing registered voters. what the times also did here and what others will start to do as we get into 2024 and get closer to the election is likely voters. not just registered, but voters who are likely to turn out among those registered voters. it's a narrower pool and here, you see they find joe biden with a two-point lead. it's trump with registered voters. a bigger pool and biden two points up with likely voters. big part of this is the registered voter advantage for trump may be it's interestingly younger voters. in some cases, nonwhite voters. trump's doing better among them. among registered voters who it's not clear if they're going to show up and vote in 2024. it's a question we have in 2024. we'll probably be talking about all year. there's signs that trump has
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made some inroads with constituencies that haven't been friendly in the past, but it's not cloer those folks are going to vote for him. you can see the potential difference there in terms of who shows up in this election. again, the other thing that's interesting. we've seen this in other polls. a dynamic in 2020 that's been flipped. age. in this times poll, they've got biden ahead in 18-29 by three points. the margin for biden over trump in 2020 was 24 points. so trump making inroads with younger voters and then on the other end of the spectrum, trump in 2020 against biden actually won the oldest voter, 65 plus, by four points. now biden leading in the poll by 11 among older voters. again, this is something we've seen in other polls. it's an interesting shift. trump making inroads on the young end. biden on the older end.
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we'll see if that dynamic holds. a lot of discussion there, too, about what's driving that. >> thank you. want to bring in director of polling at the harvard kennedy school institute of politics to talk more about this. some really fascinating stuff there that i wanted to get into, john, if we can. a lot of flip-flopping going on there. you have biden gaining with older voters. trump gaining with younger voters. some registered. some likely voters as well. you did your own polling between i believe it was october 22nd and november 6th. some of your findings were similar. that was three weeks or so into the israel hamas war. then you found joe biden at 41%. donald trump at 30%. what i thought was fascinating though was that 15% of those you polled said they would not vote if the match-up was between joe biden and donald trump. talk us through that. >> that's right. i think like the bad news around that is yes, relative to where we were four years ago, there
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was less enthusiasm about voting in general. that's not a good thing. the good news is in less than a year, ten plus months or so, we know what we need to do to turn that around in terms of like talking about civics and three things to young people. first of all, democracy can and has worked. second is government can do big things and i think there's a lot more of the biden track record over the last several years that has not been communicated to a place where younger people understand the over $100 billion of student debt relief as an example. most significant investment in climate, et cetera. the third thing is there's a difference between the two parties. those are the three elements that i think need to be in the consciousness of younger people to even have a conversation about them voting at the levels at which they voted the last several election cycles. >> l me read from "the washington post" about reporting that's happening from inside the white house when it comes to the
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president's happiness or lack therf. biden delivered stern words for the group. his poll numbers were low and he wanted to know what his team and his campaign were doing about it. obviously, we know israel hamas war is one of the top issues for young voters. right now. if you're speaking to the biden administration, if you're speaking to his campaign team, what do you tell them about how to raise these poll numbers? especially when it comes to young voters. >> well, i think a couple of things. one is there's a recognition that all of us should understand is that president biden is not in the white house today if not for what steve kornacki said a couple of moments ago. younger people under 30 voted for him by a plus 20 point margin in each one of those battleground states last cycle. he lost the votes of everybody over the age of 45. so one, they are just essential to kind of communicating and mobilizing. the second thing is i think president biden has done his job in many ways.
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he has created, he's followed up on the campaign promises made in 2020. bipartisan gun violence prevention legislation. climate, student debt. the question is how is it being communicated? is it? and we know in this era, bad news is much stickier than good news. so i think we need to have a complete conversation about restarting, resetting communications. you know, younger people spend time on youtube. they're watching netflix. hbo max, et cetera. they're watching the bear. hard knocks. they're seeing kind of a transparent, visceral series of shows that you can understand the emotions behind it. get behind the characters. see how that quote sausage is being made. i think thinking about ideas like that, short series leading up to the state of the union. looking at behind the scenes. seeing the vitality that exists within the administration. it's just one step that i think
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younger people would appreciate in terms of being communicating in ways beyond the 30 second ads and even social media ads and influencers. shown behind the scenes what's happening. >> what about abortion and reproductive rights? we saw what happened in the midterm elections. abortion won out. we see on every state ballot. it drives people to the polls. when you're looking at this poll that just came out, less than 1% saying abortion is one of the top issues they're going to be voting on. i want to play sound of vice president harris speaking to lawrence o'donnell about that very issue. she believes it should be number one on the ballot. >> this is an issue that yes, i do believe will be resolved in november of next year. because i do know that the american people fight for freedom and believe in the woman's right to make decisions about her own body. but understand every day until
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then, there are women suffering in our country in horrible ways. and look. let me tell you. there's going to be a split screen on this, too, in november of '24 to your point about the election. there's really going to be, of all the issues we've discussed so far, none are binary, this one is. november of '24, binary. on the one hand, you're going to have the folks who are standing such as president biden and me saying we trust women to be able to make a decision about what is in their best interest and women can trust us to protect their fundamental freedoms and on the other hand, you're going to have folks who want a national ban and have the gall to tell women who are even survivors of rape or incest that they don't have the right to make decisions about what happens to their body. next. so, i think there's going to be a clear choice. on this issue and so many others next year in november.
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>> they focus on the results and what they believe is in the best interest of women and ignore the polls here? >> well, listen. vice president clearly knows what she's talking about. she just wrapped up a series of college visits talking to younger people. i think abortion rights incredibly important and that's wrapped around a larger frame i think of personal freedom. but the other thing to note about this poll is we need to be careful in terms of how much interpretation. abortion is 1%. foreign policy was 6%. ie, israel and hamas. so that's just a sense of where young voters' minds are today, but we need to go much, much deeper than one question if we really want to understand the importance of abortion rights and losing 50 years of freedoms. >> again, we still have 11 months to go. you can catch more of that interview at 10:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. john, thank you so much, sir.
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appreciate it. mark meadows denied. a court rejects his bid to move the case out of court. what this means for donald trump who's trying to do the same. and speaking of donald trump, what the judge in his civil fraud trial said about an expert witness while once again refusing to dismiss the lawsuit. plus, with discussions around another hostage deal at a standstill, what can come out of bill burns' meeting with israeli and qatari officials? we're back in just 60 seconds. s we're back in just 60 seconds. (carolers) ♪ iphone 15 pro, your husband deserves it! ♪ (mom) carolers? to tell me you want a new iphone? a better plan is verizon. (dad) no way they'd take this wreck. (carolers) ♪ yes, they will, in any condition. ♪
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his right to do so. we've reached out to his legal team to see if they will take that step, but certainly it's important to remember that this was already an appeal. it was already shot down once by a federal judge and now it's been shot down by this appeals court and it's kind of interesting. this happened quickly. arguments were on friday. we got the decision yesterday. it was a quick turnaround to say no, this argument has been rejected. the other one is when you look at the language of the panel basically saying why they were rejecting it, they did it kind of for two reasons. one basically saying that what he was citing, this federal statute that he had to right to move, they say it doesn't apply to a former federal officer and remember, that's what he is right now. a former federal officer. but they say but even if it d, it doesn't prove that these alleged actions for which he's beinged happened under the scope of his duty as white house chief of staff. here's what it said --
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that's written by chief judge william pryor. it should also be noting that the judge was on former president trump's short list to be nominated to the supreme court back in 2017. >> thank you. appreciate it. want to bring in now former prosecutor, paul butler, to talk about this. any other cards to play here? does this thing go to the supreme court as we've talked about previously? >> you know, if mark meadows has moved to case to federal court, there would have been the same charges and same prosecutor. this was really about trial strategy. the federal jury pool in atlanta has more white people and more conservatives. meadows probably thought those
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folks would be better jurors for him, but as blaine said, so far, four judges have snapped him down under the law. the trial judge and three appellate judges all ruled this is not a federal case because what meadows is alleged to have done in georgia has nothing to do with his official responsibilities and it's not just what the appellate court said. it's who said it. judge william pryor who wrote the opinion is so conservative as we heard, that donald trump actually considered appointing him to the supreme court. so in terms of meadows' options, he can prolong the inevitable, but judge pryor's opinion is evidence that even the most right wing judges like the six ultra conservatives on the supreme court, are not protecting donald trump and his alleged co conspirators in these prosecutions that really go to the heart of our democracy. >> i want to talk quickly if we can about the new york civil
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fraud trial as well. the judge denying the former president's latest bid to end the lawsuit. but it was in his written ruling something that he sa about what the defense thought was their star witness. the most glaring flaw he says is to assume that the it will of the defendant's experts is true and accurate. bartov is a tenured professor, but all the testimony proves is that for a million dollars, some experts say whatever you want them to say. by doggedly attempting to justify every misstatement, professor bartov lost all credibility. what does this say about the potential ruling here from the judge? >> it says that donald trump has finally met a judge who pound for pound can match him in terms of his self-confidence and even his bluster. so, when the judge said that the
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only reason the expert witness testify is because he's making almost a million dollars for just a little bit of work, most would think it but most won't say it. the judge is quite a character and i think what the trump team is doing is writing all of this down, keeping a record. they know going into this that the judge had already found as a matter of fact and law that the trump organization and the defendants, trump and his adult sons, committed acts of fraud. so what the defense strategy has been about is first using the trial to advance trump's presidential campaign and trump's attorneys are also thinking ahead to their appeal of his decision after the trial has concluded. but it's not just the defense team that's thinking ahead. it's also the judge. so he's making a very careful record and he's got receipts
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including evidence that was presented in court like when trump and his adult sons admitted that not only were they aware of the financial statements that were fraudulent, they were actually complicit in creating those statements. and that's a violation of the law. >> thank you, paul. appreciate it. coming up, everybody, what you're hearing from the ground about the humanitarian crisis in gaza are living conditions get more unbearable every day. plus, what texas governor abbott is now making a criminal offense in his state and why he's saying president biden made him do it. we'll be right back. we'll be right back. a year after 2 starter doses. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine, or plan to. with skyrizi, nothing on my skin means everything! ♪ nothing is everything ♪ ask your dermatologist about skyrizi. learn how abbvie could help you save.
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. the israeli president indicated his country was willing to engage in another humanitarian pause but it will be up to hamas if it happened. with the infrastructure destroyed or damaged, more than 90% of gaza's population displaced, and more than 19,600 civilian deaths according to the palestinian health ministry in gaza, any and all discussions for a humanitarian pause or hostage exchange are essentially at a standstill. even with the u.s. diplomatic effort growing international outrage, and mounting calls amongst the israeli public to do something. whatever it takes to get the remaining hostages home.
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want to bring in hala to talk more about this. let's talk about hostage negotiations if we can and the status of them. yesterday, bill burns, head of cia and prime minister of qatar were in warsaw. what do we know today? >> reporter: well, the defense secretary lloyd austin touched down in qatar. qatar is a very important partner in this because they maintain political relationships with hamas. they host their political leadership. so whatever qatar is able to achieve as it did a few weeks ago when a short lived humanitarian cease fire allowed for the release of more hostages and for more aid to go through, will be welcome news. not just of course to the families, but for the hundreds of thousands of people inside gaza who need more aid, more assistance, more water, more food, more fuel, et cetera. so what is the status of the
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negotiation? really it's a question all journalists and observers are asking. are we any closer now than we were a few weeks ago? it appears that incrementally, there is new energy infused in some of these discussions but hamas is asking for a complete cessation of hostilities in order to accept any kind of deal and that's a nonstarter for israelis. so we might be just incrementally closer. we might be inching towards something that will lead us to a pause, but it is certainly early days according to the sources we're speaking to in qatar. and i wanted to bring to your attention as well some of the reporting we've been doing on the humanitarian situation because we've been speaking to the head of the u.n. relief and works agency. this is an agency that is deeply implanted in the gaza strip and runs hospitals and schools et cetera. and we spoke to tom white, the head of the operations there on his concerns going forward for the people of gaza.
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listen. >> and there was literally feces and urine flowing out of the bathrooms into the schoolyard because the sewage system just cannot cope. that was flowing into the schoolyard where people had built their makeshift shelters. and the stench was such that it was not that you could just smell the sewage, you could taste the sewage. you know. and people are living in that 24 hours a day. >> that's just a glimpse of what people are having to deal with and you can imagine this is leading to a whole host of health problems. so a secondary wave of health issues beyond the injuries from bombs and shrapnel and shelling. you know, you have problems with gastrointestinal problems and the like. so there's really big concern when it comes to the healthcare
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facilities in gaza not being able to cope. >> health problems with nowhere to treat them. thank you. want to bring in independent journalist, noga, who spent over two decades covering the conflict. i want to start with the hostage negotiations then i want to talk about domestic felix as well. let's talk about hostages first. we've got three major networks talking about deals being made and i want today see if this matches some of the reporting you're hearing to include women and the elderly, individuals who are mentally ill. that believes to be around 30 to 40 that are still in gaza. and to negotiate the number of days it will agree to hold its fire as well as the number and type of palestinian prisoners it would release in exchange for
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the hostages. is this on point to what you are hearing with these negotiations and how far are they? >> i think we are just barely at the start of a new set of negotiations. israeli media is reporting that the qatar based hamas leader will be heading to cairo tomorrow. to have discussions. it's not clear who will be representing israel there. we're hearing mixed things. the plan you just laid out is one of them. there is another plan that's more extreme that i have heard bandied about in which israel will accept hamas deciding who is released and when. basically, letting hamas run the clock on this. hamas continues to demand a complete and total cease fire. so that would imply from the israeli point of view a major crushing political defeat for
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netanyahu. and it would also more practically imply that hamas' military capacities will certainly be in tact and its leadership will be absolutely intact. >> i want to talk about netanyahu. i want to talk about domestic politics as well. we have seen ongoing protests happening over the weekend because of the killing of these three hostages. the idf along with what they want to see the release of more hostages. there has been increasing pressure on netanyahu since this war began on october 7th. i want to read for you something that elon pinkus wrote. he writes this, in terms of post war gaza, netanyahu is not a partner at all as faas the biden administrations concerned. he also wrote this. netanyahu is blatantly trying to gaslight both the u.s. administration and the israeli public by advocating repeatedly that this is a much bigger war than gaza. in your reporting, in your
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conversations you're having with israelis on the ground, what are they telling you about the political future of prime minister netanyahu? what do they want to see happen here? >> well, most people just regular people who i talk to are not really focused on politics, i have to say. that may be allowing netanyahu a certain kind of leeway. i have a feeling that israel citizens are still really wound up in their own mourning, their own grief, their fear. the country is still really torn apart by everything that has taken place since october 7th. that said, netanyahu seems to be trying to hold both the israeli people and the u.s. administration hostage to a kind of vague notion that he sets forth. so he says no palestinian authority will rule in gaza. he says this is a much bigger
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battle. he says we will crush hamas, but there are precious few particularities and the concern is that he is leaving everything bombastic and vague to extend the formal war and his hold on power. >> has he had any success amidst all this in reestablishing trust amongst the israeli people being a wartime leader as we've seen in other instances in this country for instance in the early stages of post 9/11? >> yeah. in that respect, israel is really proving to be a total outlier. there was, there were new polls out yesterday. there was a very interesting poll out today from the israel democracy institute, a nonpartisan think tank showing that 70% of israelis demand elections immediately after this war including a tiny majority of right wing voters.
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yeah. so netanyahu has an interest in trying to find some way to reestablish credibility and legitimacy. he was elected with a very, very narrow margin just a year ago. he then embarked on a very unpopular so-called judicial reform and he's in real, you know, he's really in a big political problem. >> noga, as always, we are thankful for you. appreciate it. >> thank you. up next, governor greg abbott gives police the green light to arrest migrants who cross into his state, setting up a possible showdown between abbott and the federal government. and what impact that new law might have on negotiations over immigration funding happening on capitol hill right now. we'll be right back. happening on capitol hill right now we'll be right back. he doesn't even have a mustache. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ whenever you're hungry, there's a deal on the subway app. buy one footlong, get one 50% off in the subway app today. now that's a deal worth celebrating.
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welcome back. in texas, governor abbott as introduced a plan to tackle the border crisis with a new law that allows the state to arrest migrants. this is a highly controversial law and his latest move in a series of border clashes with the biden administration. it's coming as the humanitarian crisis at the southern border has reached record lows. u.s. customs apprehended more than 12,000 yesterday breaking a daily record set two weeks ago. want to bring in julia to talk more about this. i got to wonder how is this any different than policies he's put forward before? and is it actually going to
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stand? >> well, whether or not it stands is really up to the courts but this is radically different than anything we've seen before. you're talking about when immigrants cross, they wouldn't just be apprehended by border patrol. they could be apprehended by any person in uniform in the state of texas. a state or local police officer. then they wouldn't even go before an immigration judge. they could go before a state judge who has no idea the laws that govern who can stay in this country and who needs to be deported. abbott says he needs to do this because the biden administration's inability to secure the border. it puts in the hands of local police, big decisions. they are now given the right to arrest anyone who they suspect enters the country illegally by the rio grande river and illegal ports of entry. that could be people who have been living in the state peacefully for a long time. there was a lawsuit filed challenging this because they and other groups are really
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worried about the profiling and the fear that could happen in a lot of these communities when this law starts to kick in to action. >> look, the governor has thought the entire time that the president hasn't been able to secure the border so i'm wondering why he never did this before. why he waited until now. >> this is another tool he's using. we've seen razor wire. border buoys. buses to internal cities. something to keep in mind about abbott is that his border czar is someone who's hand picked from the trump administration. the way it's been explained to me is that a lot of the things they've set up were built to the speck of what trump wanted to build. in fact, they're creating a system so that in a future trump administration or another very far right administration on immigration, that things are perfectly set up in place to continue those policies at a federal level. and it's something that obviously abbott thinks scores him a lot of political points and could be ingratiating
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himself further with trump support ers. >> got it. thank you. meanwhile from texas, we're going to the hill. senators are meeting for another day of border negotiations. the high priority aid package for ukraine and israel tied up for another day. with us, ali vitali. secretary mayorcas there this morning for what seems to be at this point, ali, a no go. >> a no go, but these conversations are still ongoing. i think that's the point that most senators who are involved in these bipartisan talks continue to point us to. the idea that they will not be voting, most likely, before the end of this year. that's something i asked chuck schumer about. he said in the clearest terms i've heard him use that any kind of vote on this is likely to come next year in january when they've got a packed schedule but both schumer and mcconnell seem on the same page in that
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they think these conversations need to continue. they support the negotiators in the room and both know this is not just one thorny issue they're trying to get through. it's multiple. watch. >> i think we haven't passed a significant immigration bill since reagan's second term. and so this is not easy. but we're working hard to get an outcome because the country needs it and the country needs it soon. >> while we've made important progress over the past week on border security, everyone understands that we have more work to do and it's going to take more time. >> so look, more work to do. more time. that's exactly what senators are spending their time doing. both taking votes on the senate floor as you just showed but then people like chris murphy, senator sinema and james langford all in the room along with other offices trying to hammer out what some kind of framework might look like.
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we're expecting to hear more in the next few minutes or maybe even hours as to what comes next and how long the senate will remain in town, but there's no deep will to continue extending senate workweeks when they weren't even supposed to be here this week anyway. look no further from the fact that only 17 republicans came back for votes yesterday. when i asked senator murphy what that told him about the level of confidence that republicans have in these bipartisan negotiations, he said he didn't want it to get into the republican psyche, but it doesn't look great. >> any talk at all about this new texas law? >> not as part of these gauche gauche dwoeshuations. coming up, a look at how putin is weathering the war with ukraine and setting russia up to be a major challenge for the u.s. for years to come. we'll be right back. u.s. for yee we'll be right back.
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units, has seized command headquarters for russia's war in ukraine and is now on the march to moscow. [ speaking global language ] . >> reporter: as the national guard prepared to defend the capital against a band of rogue mercenaries, wagner stood down but not quietly. yevgeny prigozhin, the man behind the insurrection, cheered as he and his mind vacated the russian city. two months later prigozhin is dead, his plane suffering a mysterious incident on approach
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welcome back. parts of iceland are under a state of emergency after a volcano erupted late monday night. the eruption lit up the sky and sent molten rock flying 300 feet into the air. pools of lava flowing towards towns, forcing evacuations as well. nbc news foreign correspondent molly hunter has more. >> reporter: stunning aerial images from southwestern iceland capturing a late-night eruption, spewing searing hot lava from
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volcanic fissures. it comes after weeks of anticipation and earth-shaking seismic activity. icelandic officials saying the swarm brought on with a swarm of earthquakes monday night. the entire population of 4,000 people of grindavik evacuated as a precaution. it is the fourth volcanic eruption in two years and the largest so far with an initial fissure opening spanning three miles and lava shooting over some 300 feet into the air. >> it is fascinating to see nature in action. i just -- it is just like something from a movie. >> reporter: the icelandic coast guard surveying the area overnight is an effort to confirm the eruptions exact size and location. passengers at one of iceland's main airports just 16 miles away reacting. >> as soon as we know anything we will let you know. >> reporter: authorities have raised the country's aviation alert level because volcanic ash
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can pose a risk to engines on passenger planes, something that happened when another volcano erupted in iceland back in 2010, creating an ash cloud that grounded air travel in europe for more than a week. monday's eruption follows weeks of intense seismic activity that spurred thousands of earthquakes, prompting the closure of the country's iconic blue lagoon. now officials are stressing vigilance and caution as the region waits on mother nature to run its course. >> thank you to molly hunter for that. that does it for me today, everybody. "deadline: white house" starts right now. ♪ ♪ hi, everybody. it is 4:00 in new york. i'll ali velshi in for nicolle wallace. it does not take a fancy degree and legal procedure or any fluency in legalese to understand what's at the core of today's developments because usa it is is a

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