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administration in making this happen? >> i mean, is it possible that hamas is eliminated from the political realm? definitely. is it possible to elevate the palestinian authority? there is no plan b. is it possible that netanyahu will be pushed out? he is very unpopular within israel at the moment. many people assume that when this conflict draws to a close he will be pushed out. of course, the question is, will he allow the conflict to draw to a close? well he find something else to extend it, or expanded, downed its current objectives? give his track record, i think that there is every reason to be fearful that it will. the u.s. cannot force him out. the u.s. can encourage those around him to step up. i think the united states knows that none of our goals will be achieved if netanyahu's prime
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minister and the right wing extremists to make up an important part of his coalition are still in power. >> david rothkopf, as always, and happy holidays to you and your family. thank you, david. a lot more coming up. you're watching msnbc. our second hour starts right now. [inaudible] > [inaudible hey everybody, good to see you. i'm yasmin vossoughian. if you are just joining us, welcome. if you are sticking with us, we are very thankful for that. with the stroke of a pan, the dawn of -- giving donald trump exactly what he wants refusal to take up an issue that is clearly headed their way. now puts the chances of trying the former president for election interference before the next election in serious jeopardy. meanwhile, trump may face new legal danger from a new tape that have surfaced trying to pressure a group of republican officials in michigan to help him overturn the election.
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>> there's lots of speculation about that. obviously the fact that it comes out right after the colorado supreme court ruling on the 14th amendment question is questionable, notable. i don't know the source of the recording. i don't know why they might have waited until now, what their agenda is. those are the questions we need to be asking as a component of the story unfolds. >> coming up, buying into speak to one of the members of the michigan board of canvassers who are at the center of trump's pressure campaign. also this hour we have new reporting on the gop plan for a potential impeachment of the president. and it's taking this effort deep into 2020. for i will get reaction from congress in the oversight committee member, jasmine crockett, coming up, as well. we are also following the chaotic scene at some of this nation's airports as millions rescue get home for christmas. we are going to have the dramatic sea rescue in california.
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you will have to see to believe. that is coming up, as well. we want to begin this hour with the supreme court decision not to fast-track a request made by special prosecutor jack smith in the d.c. federal election trial. the supreme court decided, without explanation, by the, way that it would sidestep a ruling on trump's presidential immunity claim for now. the d.c. court of appeals will now have to go through their process before it can even be raised again to the high court. i want to bring in nbcws supreme court correspondent to talk more about you wrote a piece about this, lawrence. i want to dive into tha for folks if we can. euro, basically, a supreme court wanted to steer clear of this political firestorm. it seems like any way this continues it will ultimately be decided there. can you take us through why this decision was so significant and the likelihood that it will end up back at the supreme court? >> sure, well, the significance
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really is about timing, as you indicated earlier. the trial is scheduled for march. there is a big question as to whether they will ato go various challenges to the prosecution. this appeal is a long shot to try to get the ca on the immunity question at least, before the supreme court way ahead of the trial. that is now not going to happen. a supreme court, did not indicate why it is taken it up. that is not too surprising. the appeals court in d.c. has already fast-tracked the appeal. it is possible that the supreme court could decide this pretty quickly. immediately, the case could side up to the supreme court. they could, if they wanted, to take this up and decided really quickly. the what we don't know is whether or not they want to do that. >> i want to read a little bit more of your piece here. timeline, especially when it comes to o arguments. on ja9th,e said at the result of the court's refusal
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to intervene in the u.s. court of appeals for the district of columbia circuit will take first crack at the issue. it is scheduled to hear oral arguments on january 9th. once that court rules the supreme court could act quickly on whether to take up the case. talk about the chances of this actually hitting. the timeline that we had foreseen coming. i.e., this march trial to begin, the likelihood that may or may not happen. how far can this actually push this? >> i think trial dates are never really cast in stone. i don't think it was ever that sense that the trial was always gonna happen in march. i think trump has various other issues that he wants to raise, as well. the supreme court is going to be looking at this when it comes out of the d.c. circuit. they will decide, as i mentioned, very quickly whether they want to intervene. there is a chance that if the appeals court upholds the lower court decision to vote against trump than the supreme court could decide not just take up
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this case at all. which would allow the trial to go forward. trump also has other peels. and they mentioned, there is a case at the supreme court now about one of the january 6th defendants. also something likely to affect trump's case because he has been charged under the same law. this defendant is challenging it. there are wrinkles here. lots of things that could affect whether the trial goes ahead in march. the next couple of months we are going to really find out whether that is going to happen. >> lawrence hurley, thank you. we appreciate it. i want to go from there to the llout over that bombshell reporting out of michigan. the detro news saying they of a phone call from novembern 17th, 2020, where president donald trump and rnc chair, ronna mcdaniel, or heard pressuring to election fials not to certify the vote. trump can reportly be heard would be terrible if they did so. both trump and mcdaniel offer the two legal assistance to not
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sign the documents needed to certify. neither msnbc nor nbc news have heard or verified these recordings. i wanna bring now jonathan can. locking wayne county commissioner and a former member of the wayne county board of canvassers in 2020. the direct target of that pressure campaign. jonathan, you are quoted in the detroit news reported as saying that what happened oum call was, quote, insane. it is just shocking that the president of the united states was that, the most my new level, trying to stop the election process from happening. can you tell me more about your reaction to what took place in this call? >> well, like i said, when i first heard from the reporter what we were initially told by monica palmer wasn't true. that the president had told them not to return into the building to certify the
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election, it brought a lot of things in the focus. not only what i see the truth of as to why she and william hartman returned back into the building but it brings into focus everything that has happened since then. donald trump has shown himself with what happened in michigan, georgia, and elsewhere, that he not only dispensed of his agents to go out and to attempt to get elected officials and public officials not to do their legal roles. he himself chose to actually get engaged. get out front and attempt, to try to exert is much power and influence as possible to convince people not to do their lawful jobs. >> the detroit news also reporting that you id this. palmer left the meeting room on the night of december 17t 2020.
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they never came back to sign the ficial statement of the for wayne county. the votes were certified because, according to the an bureau of elections, the signatures of the chair or vice chair of the camping board and the county clerk where the only things necessary to advance the certification to the state board of canvassers. what was that like? can you take us back to that moment of living through this trauma? living through this moment? knowing, subsequently, what was happening then? >> after the bow we were still pleased and excited. the fact that monika palmer and william hartman had changed their vote. they had actually certify the election. the meeting adjourned. our staff, the election department staff was actually compiling all of the various election data. preparing the certifications for signatures for the canvas
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members. and for the chair of the canvas, as well as the county clerk. all of these documents were being prepared. while we were waiting, when they were completed, the repairman of the documents we looked around and they weren't there. we started calling their cell phones. they didn't answer their cell phones. we, our staff, call the michigan secretary of state's office. we explain to them what was going. on the side the only signature that was required at this point, because we had already taken the vote, the only signature that was required was out of the chair or in the absence of the chair, the vice chair so we signed the certification and all the other documents and then we left. never in our minds to be ever imagine that they were being told by the president of the united states out in the parking lot on the telephone not to do their jobs.
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to not come back into the building. >> do you think charges should result from a telephone call like that? from the former president? >> i think first and foremost to the attorney general the secretary of state our chief elections officer i think they need to review all of the facts associated with this. to hear the tapes for themselves and to come to a conclusion. if any laws were violated as relates to interfering with these public officials from carrying out their jobs and then the appropriate actions should be taken. it is just amazing how we continue to hear more information coming out about how the president directly tried to interfere with an election. not just in michigan, but across the country. >> do you think safeguards are in place for 2024? are you confident of that? >> there were safeguards the
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system worked in 2020 they have made some changes as it relates to clarifying the role of canvassers and what responses can be made here in michigan. i absolutely feel confident that the safeguards were in place in 2020 and they have been enhanced and prepared for more craziness in 2024. >> jonathan kit locke, thank you. happy holidays to you and your family. >> thank you. >> we are back in just 60 seconds. new reporting on the house gop plans for the biden impeachment. as the senate negotiates and bracelets run appeal donald trump continues to, quote unquote, poison the rhetoric around the issue of a talk with jasmine crockett about all this coming up next.
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some may say they may take their time. some in congress are telling nbc news that the house speaker may never actually bring impeachment movement to the floor due to lack of evidence. investigators have yet to turn over actual proof of wrongdoing by the president. i wanna bring in texas democratic representative, congresswoman crockett, thank you joining us on this. especially on a holiday weekend. you think that this impeachment process is going to be drawn out? >> absolutely. this is nothing but an extension of donald trump's, hopefully, soon to be failed campaign to try to get back into the residency. this was never about the veracity of any assertions that have been made. to be perfectly honest, we are still saying, what is it that you are trying to claim the president has done? there are witnesses in the first impeachment inquiry sandra they hadn't determined that there was enough to decide
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if there was a crime at all that the president had committed. or even the illusion of a crime. right now we are wasting more taxpayer time and dollars. basically so the republicans can bend the knee to trump. >> you had some viral moments in the house oversight committee, to say the least. i think a lot of folks are wondering how the democrats are going to combat this impeachment inquiry, whether not it comes to the house floor for a vote or not. i wanna play some of those moments where folks and then we will talk on the other side. >> i am so excited that my colleagues across the aisle care about sexual abuse, considering that the front runner right now for their presidency is kind of just been found liable of sexual abuse. >> every time we seemingly have a hearing of voting rights we are talking about the fact that people are cheating. let's talk about who's cheating. i've got a few articles. >> when we start talking about things that look like evidence, they want to act like the blind. they don't know what this is. these are our national secrets.
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looks like in the [bleep] tummy. >> congresswoman, as we are talking about how democrats -- it is good to see your own review, right? as we are talking about democrats combatting this house impeachment inquiry, are we going to be seeing more of that? is there a formal way of combatting? this aside from speaking out in the ways that you have repeatedly over the last year? >> i do not plan to curse again. [laughter] i didn't plan to curse that time. >> it's passion, just passion. >> absolutely. it was not in my written remarks. i want people to understand. listen, i think it is important that we point out the hypocrisy. when we took the vote one of the things that i did was i juxtapose the work that we could be doing and we should be doing as it relates to the death of one of my constituents, a postal worker. i think the average american
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has no idea what it is we are supposed to be doing on oversight. we have seen the nude picks of hunter biden. we've talked about impeaching the president. every time there is a hearing, it's all about hunter. there is nothing about the president. esident. if it is the pot calling the kettle black, even -- something else we can look into that trump did during his presidency. one of the reasons he has 91 indictments against him. while he was impeached for at least two particular incidents, there is a lot more to be had. i think it is important that we educate the american people on what it does look like when someone is supposed to be under the microscope and facing impeachment. we know that our chairman, james comer, wants to talk about a loan that the president had with his brother. he has the exact same situation
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with his brother. palmer is currently sitting in office. we will continue to point out the hypocrisy. if it was good for them but a problem for us, then we are going to talk about. it we are going to talk about jared kushner and the money that he has received. the billions of dollars from foreign entities. we know nothing about. it he was actually a part of trump's administration. we will bring out all the door that really we should be looking at. we will show that the president is as clean it can be. >> while i have you, congresswoman, i want to talk to you about colorado's decision to remove the former president from the ballots. violent rhetoric spiked after the court's decision in colorado. thejustices personal infon was circulated. ereere calls to take up arms. youd one law professor aring that thepre court should overturn colorado' decision inart because of is
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the rejection of donald candidacy could invite the kind of violence that led to the prohibitionists on public life in the first place. the purpose of section three was to stabilize the country after the civil war, not to cause another one. where are you on this decision to remove the former president from the ballot in colorado? >> interestingly enough i was conflicted. the legal side of me it is very clear. i do believe that it was the right decision. if this section of the constitution should ever be invoked, it is right now. it is the only time in our country when we have seen what we saw on january 6th. we know that it wasn't just a random group of people who got together. we know that this president was a part of the 16. they were the very big -- it is dangerous. our founders absolutely had a trump in mind when they wrote the constitution. i absolutely believe, from a
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legal standpoint, they got it right. it's the first time we've ever had to deal with this. we don't know which court they should be brought to and how it should all be done. but i do want to point out that there are some republicans that still exist. we've got maga, we've got republicans, and then we have democrats. we have a lot of cowardice we have seen from some republicans that just sit there while maga does whatever they do. these are republicans who brought this action. all of this nonsense about president biden is the one trying to do this president biden is weaponizing the courts and things like that, we are talking about a state court, number one. we are also talking about the fact that this was actually brought by some republicans who really believe the donald trump has hurt our country as relates domestically as well as internationally. that this was something that needed to be enforced. we have that part. then you have the side admitted understands what it means to be in politics today. sadly, i have absolutely
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foreseen that this would be demo -- i also know that this is all that is needed to rylan's maga base and really get them to turn out. from a straight-up political side, not talking about the law, i absolutely am afraid that it is going to make them dig in deeper and say, we have to show up for our leader. our cult leader, our master. that is the last thing i want to do. i know that these people will bring harm to anyone's front door. other republicans, democrats, judges. they have no shame. and they believe that this corrupt man will do everything that he can to make sure that he releases them from prison once in if he is elected. >> representative jasmine crockett, thank you. happy holidays to you and your family. we will be right back in a moment. moment where my family visits often and where my memories are. i can do it with help from a prep cook, wardrobe assistant and stylist, someone to help me live right at home.
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with just two days until chri and millions of americans are ad home for the holidays today. continuing and already record-breaking holiday travel season. aaa expecting over 115 million people will travel 50 or more miles from home between december 23rd and january 1st. we are starting to see air travel begin to the pre-pandemic levels. i want to bring in jessie's kershaw was that chicago's o'hare international airport look at how travelers are doing it one of the nation's busiest travel hubs. jesse, happy holidays to you. what are you seeing there? >> yasmin heye, happy holidays to you and everyone watching at home. you can see behind us that there is activity, a lot of people here, but this is pretty calm all things considered. despite what we have been seeing throughout the week. take a look at the tsa board
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right now. five minutes for pre-check, ten minutes if you are using the regular security screening. this morning i can tell you it was a lot busier. even then things are moving pretty smoothly. seemed like things. they were spending more time at the check-in counter than it took to go through the security lines. if you have more flights to take in the week or so ahead heading into the new year, i had to break a two year, we do have a couple more rough crowded days ahead. tsa is predicting that on both friday and again on new year's day we are going to see more than 2.5 million people on each of those days inthrough the tsa screening checkpoints. if are flying, another reminder to ep in mind. make sure you give yourself don't leave it to the last minute. you need to doomething like check a bag make sure you have the right kind of i.d. with you. if you have get you're bringing to someone and someone gave you try to bring them with you on. wrapped that will make it easier if they need to be
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inspected. if you only questions for the teams that you can text the number there. -- here is one more pro-to per you, yasmin. if you get a snow globe, do not bring it through the checkpoint. bring it in a checked bag. >> right. >> remember? liquid is liquid. if that snow globe is over the limit, and has to go on a checked bag. you don't want that gift that someone gave you to be confiscated. make sure you send it through with your checked bags. >> listen, i would say don't travel with a snow globe, full stop, if it breaks in your bag than things could get really bad. if you are going to travel with a -- in our willing the snowfall on that point. >> make sure you travel with it sealed a new bag. good news for the travelers today certainly chicago her 5 to 10 minutes of security lines. that is certainly a surprise on a busy holiday late today. jesse kirsch, thank you. we appreciate it a lot to talk about with colorado where the state
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supreme court ruled that president donald trump is ineligible to appethe presidential ballot in 2024. the first day to make a ruling against trump against section three of the 14th amendment insurrection clause. the colorado supreme court has put its decision on hold until january 4th to allowfor appeals. trump's gonna disappear in court and mean for that meeting and pause that decision will remain in effect in colorado and will have to include trump's name on the primary ballot unless the supreme court decides otherwise. we want to bring in noah bookbinder, executive director of the group of -- that brought the lawsuit that led to all of this. noah, good to see you. happy holidays to you and your family. give me a reaction to when this decision came down. >> look, i think we had a strong sense that our plaintiffs or right on the facts in the law of the donald trump did engage in an insurrection. was disqualified from being president. we also knew that this was
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going to be a hard thing for any court for -- to rule that the former president of the united states, the leading candidate for one of our major political parties, was disqualified. it was always going to be an earthquake. and a really tough step. i think we thought this was right. we thought this was where this court should go. we were grateful that those justices have ll to make some very hard decisions. >> hwrote a piece for msnbc about at the critics got wrong. i want you to hear this quote. this is n the partisan political work of the democratic party, a left-wing sche to interfere on ha of crooked joe biden, as donald trump's mpgn spokesperson alleged. in september, a unaffiliated colorado voter filed suit and denver to keep trump of the states ballot. what else have the critics gone
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wrong, noah? >> i think one of the big things is the critics have said that this is anti-democratic. that the people need to be allowed to vote for donald trump if they want to. the thing with that and as we tried that already. in 2020, the voters had the chance to decide if they wanted to give another term to donald trump. they decided that they didn't. donald trump refused to accept that decision. he tried to keep himself in power despite that decision. ultimately inciting a violent insurrection to do that. the idea, somehow, that we are going to do the same thing again but it is gonna turn out differently just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. that is why the framers of the 14th amendment put this provision in place after the civil war. to say someone who attacks our republic, who engages in an insurrection against it it's
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someone that we need to protect against going forward. that is a pro democratic provision in the constitution. that is really important. >> i talked about -- going. >> i'm sorry, go ahead. >> now, please. go ahead. >> i was just saying another key thing i think the critics got wrong is to suggest that this was unfair and donald trump didn't get any kind of process. in fact, something i think a lot of people just weren't paying attention to at the time, because this case wasn't on a lot of people's radar, is that the trial court in this case held an exhaustive five-day evidentiary hearing with testimony from witnesses, thousands of pages of documents. hours of video. with really effective representation that pushed hard on all sides. the court considered all that carefully. determining based on that evidence, that this was an
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insurrection. donald trump engaged in it. there has been a really exhaustive process here. it has been incredibly fair and thorough process. >> we talked about this, the likelihood of this ending up at the supreme court is really high. i know that you are expecting, it as well. are you concerned this decision could be reversed by a conservative court from the justices appointed by the former president? >> we think we will get a fair hearing before this court. obviously people are aware of the political makeup of the supreme court. something we have seen over the years is that this is a court that has been pretty tough on donald trump's abuses of power. they have repeatedly upheld the right through congress to do oversight of donald trump when he has, potentially, abused his power. it is a core that doesn't seem
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inclined to side with those who tried to overturn the election. also, this is a court that who, in many ways, has been originalist and contextualists. looking at what the language is in the constitution. what is the history in the context behind it from those who rode it. we think that when you look at the 14th amendment in that ray it points pretty strongly towards finding that donald trump is disqualified. a lot of conservative scholars, conservative jurors, have come very strongly out that way. >> noah bookbinder, thank you. we appreciate. it breaking news everybody that we are following, the president taking questions moments ago as he walked air force one. a little hard to hear about the force question the conversation is about is about prime minister benjamin and yahoo in their conversation. >> netanyahu, sir. did you tell him not to strike with a preemptive strike? >> i had a long talk with
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netanyahu, that is a private conversation. >> about the economy, sir, what is your outlook on the economy next year? >> all good, take a look. economy is moving in the right way. -- [inaudible] and a president at all? >> i can't think of. on >> mister president, -- did you ask for a cease-fire today? >> now the private conversation. no, i did not ask for a cease-fire. [inaudible] >> great future. we are gonna continue to work with africa the buildup infrastructure. brilliant, brilliant people. merry christmas. >> if you didn't hear one of those last questions lodged at the president as he made his way to marine one he was asked if he asked for a cease-fire today from prime minister
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benjamin that now. i did not ask for a cease-fire. ending with may christmas. he is heading to camp david for the christmas holiday. i want to direct you to some compelling new content from msnbc on youtube. . . . -- i could not nail it down to one. the arraignment of former president donald trump idea alvin bragg here him and how. and i was outside of the courthouse. that is history in the making. our second one was the federal ornament on charges for interfering in the 2020 election. i was outside of that federal courthouse. i looked across the way at the capitol, the steps that i stood on on january 6th when protesters stormed the capitol, it was a full circle moment for the former president for this country that watched on january 6th and for me as a journalist.
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to colorado paramedics enough facing jail time after a guilty verdict for negligent homicide in the death of elijah propane, a 24-year-old unarmed black man. during a 2019 encounter with police, we claim was forced into a cold by officers and the paramedics injected him with ketamine. an amended autopsy report revealing the cause of death was due to, quote, complications of ketamine administration following forcible restraint. three police officers involved in the death of already faced trial, one found guilty of criminal negligent homicide. two others acquitted. 2023 saw the highest number of bills introduced in state legislator attacking lgbtq rights. 500 bills have been proposed with 75 of them becoming laws. these new laws including restrictions on gender-affirming care, fair
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participation in school sports, school curriculums, and much much more the trans community and its allies have been doing all they can to fight the injustice. >> protests are planned for today in new york city to show solidarity with the trans community in tennessee. the state passed a law banning drag performances in view of children. >> we see that they are copy-pasting this language, this type of language and using it and other local legislations acrosshe country. >> for me inat moment about critical that i stand up in defense of my committee and call out these pieces of legislation for what they are, which is harmful. >> the american academy of pediatrics, the american medical association, the american psychological association, over a dozen well renowned medical over notation support the use of gender-affirming care for minors. >> when we talk about the trans community, and children, the number of suicidal ideations
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that they have it is devastating. if this legislation that they are putting forth can cause more harm than good, they need to be mindful of that. >> according to the williams institute at ucla law there have been over 100,000 trans teens living in the 22 states that have laws rejecting gender-affirming care as of october 2023. i want to bring in a marginal and the founder and ceo trans media to talk about this and much more. omar, thank you for joining in this. happy holidays to you and yours. what a beautiful christmas tree you have behind you. ve behind you. i want to talk about some of these laws that have been instituted of late. some of them have started to include, some of the states i should say, have started to include these grandfather closet. is essentially allowing those who were already receiving gender-affirming care to continue receiving gender-affirming care. here is what we wre at nbc. in many of the states have to put these clauses in place, gender clinics and hospitals
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havespended gender-affirming care programs anyway. the grandfather clause causes providers to not even risk, because that vague law does not give them enough detail of exactly what they can and cannot do. this was written by caitlin burns here at nbc news. talk about the damages that have been done with these laws coming into place. >> thank you so much for having me. happy holidays to you, as well. the damage is incalculable. we can think about damage in terms of numbers. for what this actually means for individual families, for the safety and health of their young people, the families that are having to decide whether or not they are going to stay in a state or move, families that are having to decide whether or not they are going to have to split up their family, one parent staying in the state, for example if their kid has
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special needs. if the other parent has to move to another state so their child can get gender-affirming care. it is almost incalculable when you look at this in a even more detailed way. of course, the fact very similar to the antiabortion movement. of course, a lot of the tactics are the same. to put pressure on closing gender-affirming health care in states to make it, essentially, unfeasible. we saw, for example, what happened in tennessee. vanderville. and south texas and in other places. i think we have to understand that this is, not only and it's all on families and children, but also on our health care system as well. but also on our health c>> amars media doing to combat these loud logs and also help so many of these young people and people that are going through transitioning, and unable to do so, in some of these more restrictive states?
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>> well, we do two things. i think, one, we allow for young people to express themselves through a scene that we produce that allows them to -- greece that -- some other things. i think we also let them know that they're not a lot more generally not they are part of a community through the content that we put together. and we also, of course, set up an investigative unit inside of trans lash, which has looked into why and where a lot of these bills are coming from and the ways in which it's coming to it in a much larger political agenda. so, we are doing everything that we can. >> amara jones, thank you. i'm sorry that we have not a lot of time, but we definitely need to continue this conversation into the new york. thanks, amara, appreciate it. coming up, everybody, a treacherous rescue. the hours-long mission to free a man trapped in the -- cliffside crevice all caught on camera, coming up next. camera, coming up next camera, coming up next for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc.
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a dramatic rescue inside of california after a man got trapped deep inside a cliff along the san diego coast. the man told authorities he had been there for three days screaming for help. here's nbc's lives kreutz. >> a dramatic end to a dangerous rescue. a man finally free after being trapped deep inside a cliff along the san diego coast. the harrowing around the clock rescue, taking more than 20 hours and 150 crew members. >> this man has now emerged for the first time in potentially days. cruz carefully bringing him to safety. >> try to shimmy with the right. >> officials say the man fell 15 feet into a narrow hole just over a foot wide. he told authorities he had been screaming for days. >> there was no way to move him down, they were pinned from the midsection, down through their legs. >> the man, who has not been identified, discovered thursday afternoon by these teenagers,
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who heard his cries and called authorities. >> let me out of here. >> they took this video as they tried to help. >> and you could see his hand? >> yeah. we were trying to pull him out and unfortunately, we weren't being going to be able to. at that point, we realize just how stuck he was. >> the mission, so challenging that some crew members had to go into the tunnel upside down, held up by their feet to drill through the rocks. at times, hampered by high tide and concerns he could drown. >> he started looting a lot of consciousness through the -- >> this is the hole the man got trapped in. 15 feet deep. waves were, at times, crashing on to them right here on the cliffs. >> cruz gave the man an iv and gatorade to keep him alive, working overnight through lightning and torrential rain. little by the little, chipping away at the rocks until they could ease him out. >> the man, injured but alert, thanking crews as he was rushed to the hospital. neighbors, watching, overwhelmed and grateful. >> it's a christmas miracle,
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that's all i can say. >> certainly is an unbelievable rescue there. our thanks to liz kreutz for that report. that wraps it up for me, everybody. yasmin vossoughian. i'm wishing you all a great holiday weekend. i'm going to see you back here on monday. christmas day at noon. symone starts right now. symone starts right now. >> good afternoon. i'm charles blown in for symone sanders-townsend. we are digging into newly honored audio -- former president donald trump according to the detroit news, the audio reveals how his pressure campaign on to members of the wayne county board of canvassers to prevent them from certifying the 2020 presidential election results went down. our legal expert digs into the new and significant legal peril this creates for trump. plus, the supreme court sidestepping a decision on whether trump has broad immunityen

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