>> that's all the time i have for today. i'm julián castro in for felicia menendez. be sure to follow the show across social media. it's at lisa on msnbc. for now, i handed over to paul almost. hey, paula. >> hey, secretary, what an honor to share screen with you. in the screen. have a good night. >> good evening, everyone. welcome to ayman. breaking tonight -- jack smith as a d.c. appeals court to reject donald trump's immunity claims in the federal election interference case. this, as main because second state to remove the ex president from the 2024 ballot. plus, the do nothing congress. looking back on the category of the republican-controlled house. democratic congressman, joining me to discuss and running scared. far-right congresswoman switches districts after scandal play deer.

for now, democratic opponent. i'm paula ramos in for ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. >> democratic secretary of state now becomes the first election official to take action unilaterally. in the 30-page decision, she didn't come to that conclusion lightly. writing, quote, i outlined people that no secretary of state has ever deprived presidential candidate of ballot access based on section three of the 14th amendment. i'm also mindful, however, that no presidential candidate has ever before engage in insurrection. bells issued her ruling after a

bipartisan group of former lawmakers challenge promised free position on the ballot and you should know that she's deposit decision but peeling the court. which trump said in the tens of. i'll also on thursday, california secretary of state chose to include trump's name on the list of candidates certified too run in the states presidential primary, despite a call for her not to do so from the state lieutenant governor. those decisions out of california and maine come just one day after the michigan supreme court rejected an effort to remove the former president from its states presidential primary ballot. mary ballot. in a brief order, issued wednesday, the court said it declined to hear a case arguing that trump should be removed from the states ballot because it is, quote, not persuaded that the questions presented should be reviewed by this court. now, also on wednesday, the colorado republican party asked the supreme court to overturn

their state courts ruling to keep trump off the republican primary ballot. now, of course, you will remember that, last week, colorado became the first state to declare trump ineligible to run for president under the constitution's insurrection clause in their filing, lawyers for the colorado republican party wrote, quote, the drastic effects of the colorado supreme court's decision on the 2024 primary election necessitates this courts immediate review. >> as of tonight, the supreme court has yet to display -- in the meantime, under the terms of colorado courts ruling, trump's name will remain on the ballot for the state's republican primary, which is set from north fifth. but what do we make of all these decisions, right? how do you make sense of all of this. ? here's what we do know. these decisions add even more urgency to call for the nation's highest court to intervene. right now, we're seeing different states take very different approaches to trump's 2024 run. it's a -- that exists only because the supreme court of the united states has never ruled on

section three of the amendment. these rulings will always continue to pop up across the country until there's final and decisive guidance from the country's top bench, and that needs to happen and it needs to happen quickly. remember, in just a matter of weeks, the first -- of the 2020 election were set to be cast in the iowa caucuses. what does that mean? that means that the supreme court has a duty to voters in this country to step in and clarify the answer to this question. can an ex president, who engaged in insurrection, remain on the ballot? that's a question, and that's where we start tonight. bring in our panel, former prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst, and michelle goldberg, a columnist for the u.s. -- carroll, i'm gonna start with you. walk us through this decision that came out of maine. of course, maine just became the second state to remove trump from the ballot. but if you take a step back, how does mains decision process differ from what came out of california? what is the difference there? >> so, one of the things that

folks need to keep in mind, paula, is that there are very different state rules. state by state, they are all different from each other. so when you say that some states have voted -- not voted, but some states have decided to leave trump on the ballot and others have not, it is not always because some have found that he didn't commit insurrection or somehow found that he did. it's because the state rules are all different, and largely a lot of these decisions are being made on procedural grounds, not on what we call substantive grounds. no decision is actually made -- has been made with respect to whether he can committed insurrection or not. that's not the case in maine. in maine, the secretary of state followed very closely the rules that her state has with respect to whether somebody qualifies to be on a ballot or not, and there are very strict rules there about the secretary of state having the power to make the decision about whether a candidate needs the qualifications to be on the primary ballot. it requires noticed and

adhering the right to submit evidence to cross examine witnesses, and requires of the secretary of state make a decision within just five days. and she followed all of those rules. and colorado, it's different. it goes through the court system, and the district court they are decided that under the constitution, the reading of the court was that the president or a candidate for the office of president did not qualify as an officer of the united states subject to the insurrection that. the color supreme court thought differently, and did by a fourth re-vote only, say that trump cannot be on the ballot. so these are two very different legislative schemes that were being followed. and a probably both will have to be taken up by the supreme court. >> of course, michelle, there's a lot of uncertainty. and of course republicans have very different opinions on what's happening. but i want you to hear what governor chris christie had to say, who of course, is running

against donald trump. take a listen. >> it makes him a martyr. he is a very good at playing poor me, poor me. he's always complaining. the poor billionaire from new york to spending everybody else's money to pay his legal fees. for me. but when stuff like this happens, this should be decided by the voters of the united states. it should not be decided by courts. >> there should be decided by the voters of the united states. what do you make of that, michelle? >> i think that chris christie is right and that this is probably a -- to donald trump as much as anything else. in part because it's extremely unlikely that any of this is going to stand. it's very hard for me to believe from the legal experts that i've read, it seems unlikely that the supreme court is going to rule in favor of colorado or maine. and so it seems likely that donald trump is going to get back on the ballots, and that the strategy -- i think legally, it seems sound. i don't think there's any

question that donald trump is in fact an insurrectionist, and i'm obviously not a 14th amendment scholar but it seems like somebody who tried to overturn the last election would qualify under the plain meaning of the language of that amendment. but the politics of it, again, because it's unlikely to actually do what some people are really hoping that it does, i think that the jurists in colorado, the secretary of state in maine, they're not supposed to be making political considerations, and i don't think they are. i think they're following their interpretation of the letter of the law, but politically, as much as it might fill us with horror and dread that donald trump is almost certainly going to be the republican nominee again, and that this country is going to have to summon whatever is left of it's passion for democracy to fight

off yet a third trump presidential campaign, i don't think that there are going to be any legal shortcuts here. >> right. that's kind of the, risk too. that all of these legal matters are becoming extremely politicized, which of course, we are all that looking at the supreme court, right? we're all looking at them to give us some form of resolution and help us to make sense of all of this. in your opinion, does this speed or even force the supreme court to take a position with perhaps a little bit more urgency? and if so, when do you think that we can expect any formal decision from the? >> so, it's very interesting. because i think michele is right. politically, this is a very different question from what is the correct thing to do it legally. legally, the constitution has to be interpreted. and that is what the supreme court does. the supreme court interprets the constitution. and there has been so little, if anything, written about how

this 14th amendment section three is to be interpreted. it really is a civil war statute, and it had to do with the confederacy and confederate officers and whether they could run for office. so we are going back now 150 years, and the supreme court really, we don't know how they're going to go about this. they could look at it and they could say, well, the language on the face of the 14th amendment is clear. and if it's clear, we don't go back into looking at the history of how this amendment came into being. or they could say it is really not clear, now we have to look at what the founders were thinking or what the amendment rioters were thinking when they passed the amendment. and that, as we've seen in the past, can go down quite a rabbit hole. so for now, it does look like, because of the stays, that were granted by both the secretary of state and the color of supreme court, they stayed their decision. meaning it has no effect until the supreme court has the option of ruling on it.

donald trump's name probably will then appear on the ballots and that gives the supreme court a little bit more time to make its decision. >> michelle, i hate to ask you this question. but, i keep thinking about it. how much does it matter what the supreme court says at the end? and i'm asking you this, because at the end, what is also unprecedented is trumpism. this idea that trumpism, at the end, is a movement that believes it is about the law. no matter what. and so now that you have perhaps a little bit of time to reflect in the last years that we've gone through, what does a supreme court's potential decision mean in the face of this unprecedented movement of trumpism? >> again, if i saw that there was a possibility that the supreme court was going to sanction at this interpretation of the 14th amendment and allow states like colorado and to keep trump off their primary ballots, you would assume if they did, that other states will probably follow suit. not all of them, california is

not going to go in that direction. but some other states probably would, and it could potentially have an impact in the primary. so it would be a hugely important event if the supreme court rules in favor of these two states. i just don't think that they're going to. and so i think that the history of trumpism over the last -- i can't believe it's been so long, it's almost nine years now. but the history of this thing is that people keep looking for legal solutions to this political crisis. and the only things that have ever stopped trump and trumpism, if you look at the people who ran with his blessing in various senate, governor, and house races, the only answer to this as frightening and tentative as it maybe is politics. >> jack smith is of course one of those people, carol, that is looking at how to stop the

evolution of trumpism, at least in the face of the law. today, as you know, cares special counsel jack smith has urged an appeals court to reject trump's immunity defense in the federal election interference case. he used several examples to make his argument, he used separation of powers principles, constitutional text, history, and president. how do you see the court ruling on this issue? >> one of the interesting things will be whether this actually ever gets to the supreme court. and by that, i mean jack smith, recall, try to get the supreme court to take this issue up in the first instance without it going to the appellate court first. the supreme court said no. the supreme court said we are going to let the appellate court here at first. this is the brief that jack smith has filed in the d.c. court of appeal, and he's made all of his arguments about how trump's claim to absolute immunity, and i think you did in the office while president he is immune from prosecution for, and jack smith has been

pushed back against that as expected. but what i think the supreme court may be thinking is, we are going to let the appellate court consider the issue first, and they've set a very expedited briefing and argument schedule for this. they're going to hear this argument in mid january. so, if the supreme court or the majority of the supreme court fundamentally agrees with whatever the d.c. circuit says, they may just decide not to take the case up in the supreme court, and just let the district of columbia appeals court opinion stand. and that way the supreme court will not have to actually render the ultimate decision on this case. they can just declined to take the case up. and then they can leave for another day, deciding this particular issue as to the scope of productive zen shalom unity. but i do think that jack smith has the better argument because he's raised a number of potential scenarios that would

be very problematic if a president could do anything he wanted with respect to trying to stay in office. and could not be prosecuted for those things, and that was determined to be within the scope of this presidential duty. i think that would be a very problematic position for the supreme court to -- or even the d.c. circuit to agree with. >> carol lynn and michelle goldberg, thank you so much. thank you for helping us wrestle with this question. can the next president who engaged in insurrection remain on the ballot? thank you for walking us through all of this. next, i'll talk to congressman greg landsman about how the gop led house produced the fewest lies in the past decade, but the most dysfunction. past decade, but the most dysfunction the most dysfunction s. ♪have you tried downy rinse and refresh♪ it helps remove odors 3x better than detergent alone. it worked guys! ♪yeahhhh♪ downy rinse and refresh.

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congressional republicans. hear me out. this, from the gop-controlled house held more votes and enacted fewer laws than any other congress in the last decade. in 2023, in the 27 of the houses total some hundred 24 votes resulted in actual adulation. but they did nothing. actually, the history making continued. it took them three tries, but house lawmakers voted to expel republican george santos, making him the first person to be kicked out without first being convicted of federal crimes supporting the confederacy. and then of course there's the matter of kevin mccarthy. who required 15 rounds. remember that? a voting, just to secure the

speaker's gavel back in january. only to become, again, the first speaker in history to be ousted from the job. but what followed was even more chaotic, as republican after republican toss their hat into the ring to replace mccarthy, only to fail over and over again until the party desperate and humiliated, settle on backbencher mike johnson. and of course, capping off one year with very little legislation to show for it, and definitely makes for a very long to do list as the next one begins. just to start, a finding solution to keep the government open and use a supplementary appropriations bill to provide aid to ukraine and israel. joining me now to discuss all of this is democratic congressman greg landsman of ohio. sir, thank you so much for joining me today. let's start with the most obvious question. how do you explain this incredibly unproductive year house republicans under the house now -- how do you explain that? >> thanks for having me, it's

frustrating. i'm a new member, was just elected. and like most of us, i think, certainly in terms of the folks that won in 2022, we were in still are very eager to govern. most members want to govern, and there's a lot at stake. i, mean we've got to pass a budget, we've got border issues, that we're trying to prevent two global wars. one in eastern europe and the other one in the middle east. and the far, far right, marjorie taylor greene, lauren bulberde, matt gaetz, those folks have taken the gavel for the most part, really run the show. and so they put all kinds of ridiculous things on the floor for a vote, because that's what the speaker will allow. every time the speaker, whether it was mccarthy or johnson,

puts a bipartisan bill on the floor, it passes with an overwhelming majority. but that is rare, because those folks on the far, far right don't want him to do that. and they kicked kevin out of that seat when he did that too many times. and they are threatening to do it again to mike johnson. mike johnson's one of them, so it's a very unfortunate and problematic situation in large part because there is so much at stake. >> you say, sir, that mike johnson is one of them. but i know that you recently also said that mike johnson actually has a second chance to try and govern. you said that. do you actually believe that he is willing to do that? i guess also the question is, what incentive do they have at this point? >> it's a great question. he does have a second chance, i mean, we're coming into a new

year. and we have to pass a budget. he's got to make a decision, is he going to blow up the economy by shutting down the government? bye cutting off critical investments to families? is he going to plans on border security? is he going to punt on helping ukraine and israel? part of those two things, the biggest part is avoiding two global wars. if we let putin win in ukraine, we're going to be pulled into a global war in eastern europe. if things escalate beyond what is happening now in the middle east, we are going to get pulled into a global war in the middle east. and so he's got to make a decision, does he stand with the country and even if that means his job, or is he going to continue to placate the far,

far right? >> you mentioned global wars, and that leads me to ask you. do you think that senate democrats should be compromising on the border and border security over ukraine aid? do you think that compromise is necessary? i ask you this, because i think there are some folks within the democratic base that perhaps voted for president biden, particularly on the promise that he wouldn't make such compromises. so i wonder how you think senate democrats should be acting right now. >> yeah, i mean, they are negotiating, or at least we're negotiating last week. and had been four weeks. unfortunately, the speaker was not involved, would not participate in those negotiations. several house members had joined in those negotiations, there has to be a resolution, a fix to what's happening on the southern border. there's just an enormous amount of awfulness that's happening to families.

and some of it has been moved -- some of these folks have been moved into various cities throughout the country. i, mean i was in chicago the other day and saw all of these families sleeping on the floor, in o'hare. it's a huge, huge problem. and yes, democrats and republicans have to be working on this. i guarantee, based on my one year with all of these folks, if you put a bipartisan solution in front of us, we will vote on it. and the speaker knows that. he just has to decide whether or not he's going to participate in those negotiations, and give us a bill we can pass. >> that's a really good point. i want to switch gears for a second. i want to talk about the gop strategy when it comes to the biden impeachment inquiry. my colleague, he recently wrote a column for msnbc.com and he said, i'm quoting, it would be

an overstatement to say that if republicans impeach biden, it will guarantee his reelection. so, of course, paul is essentially saying that such a move would completely supercharge the democratic voter base. do you agree with that? >> yeah, i do. voters are -- there engaged. i mean, it's impossible to imagine folks being more frustrated and more concerned with what their elected officials are doing. i mean, they expect us to do our jobs, and that means getting to work and protecting this economy. getting wages up, cost down, a whole host of things that they need us to tackle and for the republican majority to say, hey, we're going to focus on impeachment, when zero, zero of my voters have said to me, hey, this is a priority, is going to

be very problematic for them. it's also just bad for the country. to be pulled into this absurd impeachment inquiry, when we have a budget to pass, we've got to deal with the border, and we have got to be there for our friends in europe and eastern europe, and in the middle east. it's just -- the stakes, as i said, couldn't be higher. >> that's right. the stakes could not be higher. congressman greg landsman, thank you so much for joining me. i really appreciate it. >> next, i didn't -- he was nearly defeated by far-right congresswoman lauren gilbert in 2022. now she's abandoning her district, that's next. 's next. 's next. breathe, ahhhh! what is — wow! sinex. breathe. ahhhhhh!

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house seat. in a statement, she said, quote, it's the right move for me personally, and it's the right decision for those who support or conservative movement. her switch comes after she faced major backlash once security footage of her behavior at a denver performance of beetle juice was leaked later this year. you remember, she got kicked out for vaping, for singing, and other disruptive behavior, including, yes, groping her date. she was also facing a strong primary challenger, jeff heard, backed by former governor bill owens. i was boebert set for a likely rematch against democrat adam fresh. she nearly defeated him in last year's midterms, winning by just 546 votes. as a federal election commission record stated september 30th, fresh was already out racing boebert by more than $5 million. all signs seem to point to boebert overarching strategy. -- joining me now to discuss is adam first himself, who's running for congress again in

colorado's third district. adam, thank you so much for joining me. i just want to start with exactly what went through your head as you heard the news coming out of boebert calm pain? >> happy new year to you and the voters out there, and your viewers as well. i had a call about an hour before it hit the wires by someone on our campaigns that saying i just got the craziest message. not only was representative boebert packing up her bags in this district and not going to be running, but she's actually going to cover bag her way for under miles through three different districts to the eastern plains of colorado. i'm not sure the last time that's ever happened, if it's ever happened, that is sitting congress person is packed up their bags to what a challenger has done. but we've been receiving congratulations from all over the country about it, and so shocked, surprised, i -- tell myself a little bit. but when i got on this journey, goal number one was to make sure that lauren boebert was

gone from southern and western colorado. so we're giving ourselves a lot of credit, and a lot of hard work to get that done. and now we're going to work on getting someone to focus on rule western southern colorado and take the job seriously. >> before digging into your district and exactly the makeup of that district, what do you make of this move in terms of what it says about the mega strategy and the maga agenda going into 2024? do you think it's reflective of a larger problem that the gut party is facing right now? >> i'm not sure. i spent zero time thinking about the national elections, whether it's county commissioners or the presidential election. i'm not focused on this team red, team blue conversation. i'm laser focused on the ranchers and farmers and businesses in the communities of western and southern colorado. you know, i will say, one thing i would rather say about city for down the road is that the only thing worse than an embarrassing, unproductive congress person is a --

unproductive, embarrassing congresswoman. congress person, for that matter. but i just want to laser focus on ceedee three. again, we are happy and thrilled that she's gone from this part of the state, but, again the goal has always been to make sure that there's a true rule representative looking after western and southern colorado and focusing on those needs, and not getting sucked into a lot of national conversations going out across the country. >> something you said it surprise me saying that you're not even thinking about national politics, not even thinking about the national presidential election. and that surprises me because i wonder if a lot of candidates, democratic candidates are thinking about this question. which may be, how much do i approximate myself to president biden? simply given his poll numbers, given the lack of approval among a lot of people in terms of his approach in gaza, and we have to imagine that is something that you must be

thinking about. how do you sort of figure out those parameters around how much and how close you align yourself with the president? >> you know, whatever the president is doing or not doing or how they're doing in polls that go up or down, again, from day one, and this is two years ago, who knows what the polling was back then. i'm not focused on it. there are four things we've done well. we were supposed to lose by 40,000 votes last time. and we lost by 550. we were completely blown off by the republican party, the democratic party media with respect to a lot of the donor base. and it was just a matter of driving 45,000 miles, also with my son who took his junior year of high school off and we did a father son road trip, and just met as many people as possible. i've been home three or four days a month for a year and a path. we're authentic, we're hardworking, and were sincere. those four characteristics or why we are doing so well in a district that has surprised a lot of people.

but again, so many people, whether i'm eating democrats, independents, or republicans, are frustrated with both parties. and i'm really laser focused on focusing on what our district needs, and that's colorado water, colorado energy, and the colorado job base. it's really important going forward for the future of our country and our district. >> are you doing anything different this time around? you're right, you were very close to winning in the midterms, but the reality also is that the last democrat that was in there was in 2009, i believe. what are you doing different this time around? >> the district has a history over 40 years of moderate democrats and moderate republicans. obviously, the current representative, who is probably packing her bags right now and she starts to move down the road, it's just not part of that conversation. and our district once people playing between the two, four, and yard lines. and that's just not without representative is. as far as doing everything different, not really. my views remain the same, whether i'm speaking in front of some of our counties that

are 80% democratic, and we tell people the exact same conversations, stories, values, views, policy positions, if i'm talking to some of our counties that have 80% republicans. i'm going everywhere, and again, i'm on the road 25 days a month. and it's driving around in the red ford pickup truck, listening, learning, and confirming how much of those counties that we have in the country that are producing energy and producing agriculture, producing beef and wrenching products, just feel left out of that conversation from a lot of the urban big city conversations that are taking place down in denver and these other big cities. and i'm just laser focused on city three, and not to be a broken record, but this is what i truly believe. regardless if we get another extremist and personality or in policies, or we get more traditional republicans if you will, it won't change our strategy, it doesn't change my work ethic, it doesn't change by independents.

>> really quickly sir, i'm running out of time. but i have to ask you this. how does colorado supreme court's ruling affect the constituents in your district? i'm wondering how that's playing out right now. >> i don't hear about it. i mean, people are concerned about the cost of living, they're concerned about making sure that there's a strong domestic energy industry, they're not really focused on what goes on down there. personally, i believe that the voters should be deciding who should be on the ballot, and not the courts. >> okay. adam frisk, thank you so much for joining. i really appreciate it. >> happy new year to you. >> next, new disturbing video out of gaza highlights the uncertainty children there are facing. facing. it's one more step towards taking charge of your health. so every day, you can say, ♪ youuu did it! ♪ with centrum silver. there is a lot of information out there. hamas is a terrorist group oppressing the palestinian people. hamas refused a continued ceasefire, a continued pause in fighting and more aid from israelis in exchange for just freeing more hostages.

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million civilians in need. meanwhile, unicef has said that the region is by far the most dangerous place in the world to be a child. according to the government media office in gaza, at least 8500 children have been killed since october 7th. and for those who have managed to survive, day-to-day life over there is uncertain. it's dangerous. it's harrowing. i want to show you video that began circulating on social media on christmas eve. here, what you see on your screen, is what appears to be two children stripped to their underwear, and rounded up by israeli soldiers at a stadium in gaza city. nbc news does not know exactly when this video was taken, in a statement, the idf said that individual suspected in involvement in terrorist activity are being detained and questioned, and those who are not found to be participating in this activity are then released. but amid these scenes and the utter destruction throughout gaza, adults are still working to create some sense of normalcy for the children, like this displaced teacher, who's

volunteering to teach children in glitch language classes. joining me now to discuss is steve sorsby, founder of the palestine children's relief fund. steve, thanks so much for joining. i really appreciate it. i want to start by asking you, just directly, what you are hearing on the ground from your team members, from families that are there, i'm asking you particularly because i know that at least six of the palestinians who you had brought to the united states for medical care have now been killed in gaza, steve. so i want to start their. >> yes, thank you. of course what we're hearing from the ground is pretty much what you are outlining in so many reports, which is that there are no safe spots in gaza. the complete catastrophe on a humanitarian level in the health sector and every aspect of life in gaza has deuterated to the point where we've seen hunger, widespread hunger. we're seeing widespread hunger among all segments of palestinian society. the lack of medication has resulted in education and other medical care being provided without anesthesia.

children are getting communicable diseases on a wide scale, far beyond what we've ever seen before in the gaza strip. over 8000 children have been killed, as you mentioned earlier. that's 1%, nearly 1% of the entire population of children in gaza been killed since october 7th. that doesn't take into consideration the thousands of children that are missing under rubble. it doesn't take into consideration the thousands of children who are dying and suffering from diseases or injuries, or medical conditions which they otherwise would get medical care for, had not the health care system completely collapsed as a result of this ongoing violence. the situation in general in gaza is completely beyond the scope of any kind of proper understanding from a civilized point of view. there is no food, children are suffering from the lack of medical care, there is no education going on, and let's keep in mind that there is truckloads of medication, truckloads of food, a mile across the border in egypt, waiting to enter gaza. they're being prevented from

entering gaza, and therefore this is not just a crisis, it's a medical crisis. and to allow children to suffer and to die of starvation in some cases, and i know this is documented, when there's food readily available just across the border is unconscionable. >> steve, let's turn back to the video that we just showed on the screen a couple of minutes ago, of what appears to be two children being stripped to their underwear, and rounded up by the idf. i know that israeli officials told cnn that they have found explosive vests magnified from children to wear as they are going house to house, but what do you make of this video as you were watching it? >> i, mean we've known that there is been plenty of children who have been detained and who are in israeli prisons and who have been in israeli prisons even without trial for many years. this is not a new thing. and those children in gaza grew up being arrested and being detained and being rounded up by the military. this is not a new thing.

as i just said. this is something that has been going on for years. now, it's been in front of the international media and it's starting to be seen on a more wide scale, but it's something that most palestinians will tell you has been going on for generations. and hopefully in the case of these innocent children, this stops. because these are innocent kids who don't have any due process of law. they're not being protected by any international agencies, and they're being treated by military soldiers and by the occupation army as combatants, when in fact, they're just children. >> as you are saying, this is not a new thing. but what does accountability look like right now? i know this obviously -- what does accountability look like? in the face of images like that, and in the face of knowing from different humanitarian organizations that, as you said, this is not a new thing, what does accountability look like? >> accountability looks like the fact that international law has to be upheld. that if you're going to arrest

people and detained people for significant amounts of time, they have to face charges. you cannot hold them without charge. this administrative detention, which is commonly practiced in israel, has imprisoned children without charge. not having lawyers, without having any actual charges being brought against them. not facing a judge in a court of law. their accountability in question has to be what is the ash -- what are we going to step forward and say this is not acceptable, by international law, and by international standards? they should not be tolerated, and that all parties in the region need to be held by the same basic rule and legal standards. >> steve, as we head into the new year, and we've been talking about this extensively. the world has seen the images. but i want you to directly address our viewers and help them understand exactly what the situation is on the ground right now. >> the situation on the ground is that there is no safe place

that people are huddled into their homes every night, fearing death. that their children are going without food, and 90% of the population in gaza goes one day without a meal. and that over 50% of the population is suffering severe potential starvation, that tens of thousands of children now are suffering significant injuries, permanent disability. and as i mentioned, nearly 10,000 children have been killed. kids with the most basic medical needs are not having those needs met, because the health system has collapsed. people are living, ensuring 7 million people are sharing one toilet. they're living in tents, they have no security whatsoever to feel that they are safe anywhere, any night. and families are being destroyed, homes are being destroyed, as you've all seen. over 60% of the homes in gaza have been destroyed. and there's no end in sight. and the fact that this is been going on for nearly three months, and that the

international community and all of us are aware of exactly what's happening, we've seen it every single day, and we've not been able to put a stop to it. in fact, it just continues. and on average, over 100 children are killed every single day in the gaza strip. over 100 children are killed. and it's in front of the world's eyes, we are all talking about it, but nothing has changed. this is beyond comprehension, and as we go into 2024, that this could continue to happen. >> steve, thank you so much for what you do. thank you so much for reminding us to not be -- in the face of these images. i really appreciate you coming tonight. still to come, how republicans failure on abortion rights is backfiring as we head into another election year. other election year. other election year. yeah, because you're 5'8”. wait robbie, go look at the sprinter gene. i wonder if you have it or that's why you didn't make the team. let me see. let me pull it up. don't have it. yup, i knew it. what else does it tell you? no, hold on, i'm going to find some athletic gene in here. endurance, no. speed, average.

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