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an incredible milestone. pearl harbor survivor chuck kholar celebrated his 100th birthday. he survived the pearl harbor attack. he says he is touched by the recognition and lucky to celebrate a century. >> this is wonderful! oh, my goodness gracious. i don't think many people get to experience something like this. all of these people, who knows where they came from, because of me? to wish me happy birthday? i will never, ever forget it. >> we will never forget you. i want to congratulate you and wish you a happy birthday. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me on social media @jdbalart. watch clips from our show on youtube. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with
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more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," defense secretary lloyd austin finally taking questions more than one month after hiding his diagnosis and surgery for prostate cancer from public and from the president. >> we did not handle this right. i did not handle this right. i should have told the president about my cancer diagnosis. i should have also told my team and the american public. i take full responsibility. i apologize to my teammates and to the american people. the u.s. navy intercepts a ballistic missile fired from inside yemen. american f-18s eliminate houthi drones poised to launch. the biden white house chooses targets to retaliate against iran-backed attacks. president biden heads to
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michigan today where he is facing growing opposition from the large arab american community over his support for israel. nikki haley gets a reality check from a pollinaing her in south carolina. good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in new york. as the pentagon plans what officials say will be an extended, multi-target campaign against iranian proxies for the deaths of three u.s. service members in jordan. the secretary of defense has taken questions from the press for first time since he kept his cancer diagnosis and surgery a secret from everyone, including the president of the united states. >> as a rule, i don't talk about conversations with my boss, but i can tell you, i have
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apologized directly to president biden. i have told him that i'm deeply sorry for not letting him know immediately that i received a heavy diagnosis and was getting treatment. >> secretary austin was asked about retaliating against the iranian-backed militias that used the drone strike to strike against americans. >> we will have a multi-tiered response. again, we have the ability to respond in a number of times, depending on what the situation is. >> in the short-term, u.s. central command has taken pre-emptive strikes against houthi forces in yemen. overnight, in the gust of aiden, another anti-ship ballistic missile was intercepted and three iranian drones were taken down. president briden is involved.
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we start with matt bradley and courtney kube. courtney, let's talk about what we are expecting. you are there with the fifth fleet in the region. we are told not to expect shock and awe. this is not the attack against baghdad. what do you expect? what assets are involved? where might they hit in this planned response? >> reporter: think about the previous times that there have been attacks against bases with americans in iraq and syria, or there have been attacks against commercial shipping or targeting u.s. navy ships. the u.s. has responded in very specific ways. we have seen air strikes from manned aircraft. we have seen firing off of u.s. navy ships, surface and submarines, usually tomahawk missiles. generally, they go after targets that are proportional to what
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was attacked in the first place. let's say that they are attacked with a drone. they go after a warehouse where drones are stored. something like that. it's a missile like the one you talked about in the intro, they will go after a missile launcher. why this will -- is expected to look different is because of the severity of the attack on sunday, as you mentioned, three u.s. soldiers killed, 41 others injured, because of the severity, u.s. officials say we should expect this to look and feel different. that means, multiple waves or tiers of response. also, the response is expected to be larger, both in the number of munitions dropped and expanded, also in the type of attacks. not necessarily just kinetic. then also in the geographical area that it's expected to cover. those are the three ways that this will stand out from the previous retaliatory strikes.
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theandrea, is to not only degrade their ability to carry out future attacks, but it's to send such a message of strength that hopefully it will deter them from wanting to carry out attacks like that in the future. >> thank you, courtney. matt, president biden sex -- is expected pic -- is expected -- is expected to issue -- they would reform the palestinian leadership and the security capabilities. we know that the prime minister's top advisor was in washington meeting with secretary blinken. how might this impact israel as they evaluate what to do in terms of withdrawing from the
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more populated areas in the south, khan yunis and withdrawing more troops and agreeing to a longer cease-fire? >> reporter: this is going to be a big question. what we are seeing is ambitious twin proposals from the biden administration, both of which are not sitting well with netanyahu, the prime minister, or his right wing cabinet. this is considered the most right wing cabinet in israeli history. we are hearing some reaction from the finance minister. he is a settler himself. he has come out and said that the rumors of settler harassment of palestinians in the west bank is an anti-semitic lie. that's clearly not true. my colleagues have done stories about this for years and years. we have been seeing it on video. we know that this happens. this proposal we hear coming from the biden administration is almost certainly going to
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include basically restrictions on visa applications. settlers would have trouble accessing visas to visit the united states and possibly sanctions. that sounds like the kind of individual sanctions that we see targeted by the u.s. treasury against people. we have seen it used in russia and other places against people considered to be driving policy that are against international law or against u.s. interests. this is a big step. it's one that's seen here in tel aviv and by netanyahu and his administration as a broadside against israel. that other thing you asked me about, the potential recognition of a palestinian state. that could be a major factor when it comes to having sort of peace treaty in the gaza strip. if he is putting that ahead of a peace treaty, that could possibly delay it. creating a new palestinian state, a unified palestinian state is hugely ambitious. >> matt, from my reporting, there's been harassment, violence from both sides.
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there's been harassment by the idf and settlers against the palestinians. what has put it over the edge now with the administration is civilian palestinians, non-violent people getting killed. there are documented cases now that the administration is very concerned about, about gratuitous violence by settlers and the idf, for that matter, in the west bank and that's going to blow up potentially and become another front. in addition to gaza. matt bradley, courtney kube, thanks to both of you. joining us is admiral james stavridis. you have seen the drama coming from the pentagon. we should point out that the secretary of defense lloyd austin, he said that he was clearly limping, he is recovering, he is having
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physical therapy. he was very open about the ongoing investigation and the fact that basically he messed up. >> yeah. lloyd austin, who i have known for decades, did what good leaders do and what men and women of integrity do. when they make a mistake, they admit it. they own it. they improve. they go forward. any further action would be up to the president. i think lloyd austin did exactly the right thing in coming forward now. he made a mistake earlier. he has handled it as well as he possibly can at this point. i wish him well in his recovery. he is a fine military officer. i think continues to serve the nation. >> i think all of us wish him well. interesting the press corps were wishing him well as well at the pentagon. they have been very critical of his access -- the lack of access he afforded them. let's talk about the bigger
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issue, of course, which is what's happening right now in the region. they are taking their time. they are going to strike at a time and place of their choosing. he pointed out that as you know better than anyone as the former supreme allied commander of nato, that will depend on other factors, how people are moving around, reducing collateral damage, civilian deaths, as well as weather and other conditions. this is also permitted people to move to get out, to evacuate, some of the militias. are they taking too long to retaliate? >> these are military judgments that are being rendered minute by minute inside u.s. central command. by the way, lloyd austin's command, when he was a four star, so he knows this region extremely well. what's important here is that this is going to be a campaign, not a one-off, not a simple one-time precision guided strike against a particular target. it's going to be an ongoing
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series after attacks against not only the houthi, red sea, maritime threat you were showing earlier, but also against the militias in iraq and syria. this will go on, i think, for a number of weeks and probably accelerate in terms of the hammer blows we are landing. at that point, iran hopefully will take control of these militias and pull them back. otherwise, andrea, i think the united states will have to at least consider strikes against iran directly. let's hope we don't get there. >> there are a number of people in congress in both parties calling exactly that. there have been more than 160 attacks against u.s. and international forces. nothing seems to have deterred these iran-backed militias. >> absolutely correct. i think we're at the final exit before the tunnel, so to speak. we need to be communicating that directly to iran. i think we are doing so.
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we need a very robust series of strikes. by the way, not just against militias. but against iranian revolutionary guards who are outside iran conducting the training, the organizing, the equipping of these militias, this so-called axis of resistance. they are legitimate targets. if iran does not listen, if they don't immediately cease and desist, then i would advocate strikes against iranian sovereign soil. let's hope we don't get there. >> admiral james stavridis, thank you. concerns about this. senator chris coons joins me on the push to more action against iran and the latest on border talks. that's next. we will be back in 60 seconds. don't go away. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. y. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. and skyrizi is just 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses.
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joining us now, democratic senator chris coons from delaware, who serves on the appropriations and foreign relations committees. thank you very much for being with us. as you know, there's a fine line between sending a strong message to iran through its proxies while avoiding an escalation in the region and avoiding an all-out war with iran. how do you balance that? >> well, this is one of those moments when i'm so grateful that our president has decades of experience in foreign policy and in the region. it's a tough balance to strike. i know his national security leadership, our nation's military leadership have presented the president with a range of options. what he is trying to balance is sending a forceful, strong and clear message to iran and their proxies that continued strikes that harm or kill americans will be fought back decisively. but, he has an eye to the development in the negotiations
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between israel and hamas to achieve a 40-day cease-fire in gaza in exchange for the release of dozens and dozens of hostages. and he has got an eye on the other challenges in the region, hezbollah, which continues to fire rockets into the north of israel, and the houthis who continue to harass shipping in the red sea. it needs to be a series of actions that show determination, forcefulness and american capabilities but not overdo it such that we then expand into a regional conflagration. >> what do you say to your colleagues who are saying, go after iran? deterrence has not worked. >> i don't think a strike directly into the heartland of iran that causes massive casualties is wise at this point. but i do think forceful strikes against a series of targets throughout the region that are iranian proxies, that will
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degrade their capabilities and that, frankly, will take the lives of those who are attacking shipping, attacking american troops and attacking israel, i think that's the sort of course we are likely to see. i think that's proportional and a justified response. >> secretary austin apologized today -- said he apologized to the president but also apologized to the public for being secretive about his cancer diagnosis and his surgery, the hospitalization. is that adequate? >> i think the president continues to have confidence in the secretary. i think it was appropriate and adequate for him to take personal responsibility and for the white house to promptly conduct a review of succession and continuity plans for each of the cabinet secretaries. it's important for this incident, for your viewers to be clear that at no point was the chain of command broken, at no point was our national security put at risk.
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the secretary needed to be clear with the american public, our president, and those of us in congress that he took responsibility for having been perhaps more private about a delicate medical condition and then surgery is appropriate given his role as secretary of defense. >> turning to the border and the ukraine funding and the funding for israel that's being held up, because it's all packaged together. senator langford says the bill is getting closer to the finish line. he had this warning for critics of the legislation who have not even read the bill. that would include the speaker of the house. >> the biggest struggle that everybody has is no one has been able to read it. everyone's going off of internet rumors. there's lots of things out there that are false. there's this ongoing thing that it allows 5,000 people in, there's no way that's in the bill. i would never agree to that.
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it's also just a total mischaracterization of the bill. >> now there are reports mitch mcconnell might be in favor the taking the border out if it's not going to get resolved and at least separating that out and doing the ukraine funding. would you support that? >> andrea, i spoke to liter -- leader mcconnell about that this week. hins determined to get funding. it would be a mistake after months of republicans saying this demands legislative action for the republicans then to turn around and say, never mind, we don't need any legislative solution here, when a conservative champion of conservative principals on immigration, james langford, drove a hard bargain and got to
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a point that would put in law a number of the most conservative changes in asylum practice and in deportation practices we have seen in a long time. i think it would be a mistake for us to step away from this larger package. i'm concerned about getting funding to ukraine, about getting funds for humanitarian relief into gaza, into ukraine, and for a dozen other countries that are not often mentioned, from sudan to somalia to the central african republic to afghanistan to syria to many others on the edge of starvation and making sure that we are able to provide assistance to israel. this is a moment when the senate should show that we can lead through compromise. i'm hopeful the text of this bill will be released soon, tonight or tomorrow, and that after several days of reviewing what's actually in the bill as opposed to what's rumored to be in the bill, there will be
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enough votes to pass it in the senate. senator langford is a friend. he is one of the most conservative members of the senate i have ever called a friend. i'm confident that once folks see what's in this deal, they will recognize it's what the republicans have been calling for for months. >> what about the house? what if it dies in the house? would you separate out ukraine? >> that would be a repeat of the tragic outcome the last time that we in the senate did a comprehensive immigration bill. after months of work it went to the house to be ignored and die. if that happens, that will be a huge miscarriage of justice by the house. we should then take up and pass aid to ukraine. we shouldn't give up on this deal yet, because so much work has gone into it. i think it is a pathway towards fixing an ongoing and urgent challenge for our nation. >> senator coons, thank you very much. >> thank you. new numbers from south
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large arab american population is turning against him on israel. nikki haley is 26 points behind mr. trump in south carolina. joining us is ali vitali and monica alba and susan del percio. ali, the polling from south carolina is not looking good for nikki haley. she has three weeks to go before the republican primary. what's her strategy to catch up to donald trump? >> reporter: the polling here now looks like it did a few weeks ago. it's widely seen that south carolina is nikki haley's home state but also squarely seen as trump country. it explains why we are seeing from nikki haley, who was a twice elected governor of the state, the fact that she's trying to pound as much pavement between now and the end of the month when the primary is here, that's her way of trying to get
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the message out but also remind the voters of south carolina that in many cases, they have voted for her before. she is a trump alternative if they are looking for one. i think it's that if that we have been trying to see. the idea that in iowa and new hampshire, when they were offered a binary between haley and trump, trump did win. the thing that i think we saw in new hampshire, which is what the haley campaign is clinging to, is the idea that it's a binary, haley has been able to close the gap more than anyone else. that's the metric they are laying for success. they are not saying that even though it's her home state she's going to win it. instead, she's saying she's going to do better here than in the prior two states. that's vague but it allows her to define success however it shakes out on election night. >> susan, nikki haley vowed to stay in it for the duration, past super tuesday certainly. some people in the white house might want her to stay in all
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the way to the convention because she seems to be dinging donald trump more and more. can she keep raising money? >> that's the question. that's why she changed her tack is she is going after donald trump a lot more aggressively. that's in part because she's getting backing from folks who backed chris christie. that big money, that billionaire money if you will, that wanted a trump alternative, they are giving her a shot at it. we will see what happens as far as how far she will end up going. she has to prove she can do better in south carolina than she did in new hampshire and she did in iowa. that's the test. >> monica, it's michigan, union labor for president biden, although there's problems with michigan, we know. the trump support there. now you have the arab american community against him in michigan. maybe it's no coincidence, they
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moved ahead with this executive order to try to do something to restrain the most violent and extreme of the jewish settlers in the west bank against palestinian civilians. >> reporter: that's certainly the backdrop to the president's visit here to detroit and to michigan in general. he is building that momentum. this president calls himself the most pro-union president in american history. he is going to come here to meet with some of the auto workers, members of the union, and to specifically thank them for their support and to try to talk about the policies as his administration has been able to build on and to talk about why he wants to do that for four more years. it's one thing to really have the backing of the leadership of some of these key unions. it's another to really meet with some of the rank and file and try to secure their own support. it's those many thousands of members here in states like michigan, but also in wisconsin,
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throughout the midwest, that really could ultimately decide this election. we know that some of those and others in the arab american community have expressed extreme frustration and anger with the president's policies as it relates to the israel and hamas war. it's interesting that the uaw as a union did put forth their position calling for a cease-fire. that's something they have been very up front about for weeks. they said they still wanted to support the president separate from that. i can imagine that's something that's going to come up in some of his larger conversations here. we should point out, he is not scheduled to have any specific meetings with the arab american community and some of the leaders who have said they don't want to sit down with the president either. >> thank you so much, monica. thank you, susan. ali also. two major legal decisions looming for president trump. jack smith meets in a secure room for three hours with the
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there are multiple delays on pending cases and pending decisions on the donald trump legal front, his election interference case has been on pause for more than 50 days in d.c. pending an appeals court decision on his claim that the president should have immunity. on the classified documents case
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in florida, jack smith and judge cannon met in a secure facility for three hours to review how the prosecution plans to use classified documents, key evidence in the case. the judge let the defense appeal that. that could take more time before any trial date is set. in new york, the judge's decision on how much mr. trump and the trump organization are going to have to pay in the civil fraud trial against them could come any day. joining me is andrew weissmann, former senior prosecutor on the mueller investigation. this is a lot and a lot of delay. the immunity decision, what is taking the appeals judge so long? are they arguing amongst themselves? i heard you last night and there was some suggestion they are trying to come up with a unified position so that it can't be picked apart as easily by critics and the defense.
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>> one thing it's worth reminding ourselves is in any normal situation, the fact that an appellate court takes a few weeks to issue a decision is lightning speed. sometimes it can take months and months and months. sometimes even over a year before you get a decision. here the reason that everyone thinks each day that goes by you are going what on god's green earth is taking so long is because they understand that there's -- there was a trial date set and the circuit court itself had set an expedited briefing and hearing. people briefed this case during the holidays and over the new year's holiday. that is what i think leads everyone to think it should come down any day now. there are three je judges decid
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this. they have to coordinate. there's some thought that the presiding judge, the most senior judge of the panel, judge henderson, she gets to decide who writes the majority decision, which there may not be a dissenting opinion. she may have assigned it to herself. she may be the cause of the delay, that she's taking her time. it's anyone's guess. i still think that we will be getting a decision relatively soon. i just don't see them expediting the briefing and hearing of this just to sit on the case. >> would it depend how they decide, what basis they reach their decision, if it's unified, on the immunity issue as to whether or not the supreme court takes it? >> it could. there could be a dissent. there could be different views on whether it's an absolutist ju that judge chutkan took or a more nuanced view. you could have different
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opinions on that. i do think that donald trump's arguments in the d.c. circuit were so outlandish that if you just looked at his position, that is not normally the kind of case that the supreme court would weigh in on, because it was so frivolous. >> briefly, the classified documents case, three hours in the scif yesterday going over the prosecution classified documents, critical to the case, how they're going to use them. this is going to lead to further delays, of course, depending on what she does with this prosecution request. the defense can appeal it. this case is taking forever it seems. >> absolutely. the case that i think is really unjustifiably delayed is this one. this is a case that is really quite simple in terms of its facts, in terms of preparation. judge cannon could have held this very routine hearing she
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held with the government, could have been held months ago. there's been zero reason put on the record as to why she delayed. i'm very cynical, have been trying to give her the benefit of the doubt. i don't see any reason that this is taking as long as it did. this is a very routine process to have these section 4 hearings between the government and the judge as to what evidence can be used. i've been in those myself. i think had is one where there are a lot of excuses being given to her to continue the delay of the case. in the beginning of march, she's going to hear the parties on whether she's going to keep the may trial date. i think it's pretty forgone that that date is going to slip. >> andrew weissmann, thank you so much, as always. >> you are welcome. truth and consequences. she represented e. jean carroll and won a landmark verdict
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rights icon whose case led the supreme court to grant same-sex couples recognition. she joins me now. i wanted to talk to you because once i had seen a documentary about charlottesville called "no accident". it showed how you built that case, a tough case in a very conservative district in terms of the jury pool in virginia. >> we had a better jury pool in new york than down there. >> better for your client. you have been involved in landmark cases in three difference areas. let me ask about charlottesville. the documentary recounts how you
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built the evidence because the defendants were in some cases representing themselves and presenting themselves as, who me, a neo-nazi? >> we had phones thrown out the windows, dumped in toilets. they didn't follow court orders. >> in terms of preserving evidence? >> exactly. >> you found an audiotape of one of the key defendants at the rally at the jefferson statue the night after the police shut down their march shouting the jews will not replace us, which totally rebutted his whole contention that he had not been at all violent. >> correct. spencer at that time was trying to reform himself or at least the public image. he was saying, i'm not just a bad guy. i'm not so far right. i don't believe in violence. he would come to court every day with a big green stuffed dinosaur that i think was -- he said was his daughter's.
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every day it would move closer to him so the jury would see it, presumably. that tape in which he says things that i won't repeat on the air they are so horrific, really put all that to the lie. >> let me play some of what the documentary shows. i think we beeped some things out. >> what did you mean when you said, we are going to have a lot of [ bleep ] fun with her? >> i love to talk about this [ bleep ] on my show because she's a barrel of laughs. since i'm involved in litigation, that's unwise. i should probably keep my mouth shut until after the [ bleep ] thing is over. >> that was a deposition. >> yeah. that's me he is talking about. >> going after you? >> yeah. >> here you had this unusual verdict. the next thing we know, you are involved with e. jean carroll.
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talk to me about the evolution of that. >> george conway tells it like it is. apparently, they ran into each other at a party. this was right after -- this was july, so the month after donald trump defamed her. she was -- people were coming up to her saying, you should do this, you should do that. george said, think about it. let me give you the name of a lawyer. he gave her my name. we had never met at that point. i don't think we ever had a case with each other. i knew who he was. i took the call. i met her the next day. i said, this is the right case. let's do it. >> edie windsor, the defense of marriage act overturned. >> i've been ways i've been saying this lately, e. jean and e.d., they're very similar in that they both have the perfect factual situation to bring the cases they brought.
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e. jean was this beautiful, charismatic successful woman, didn't have a previous wrip donald trump and didn't want one. what happened was so horribly violent and terrible because it was just coincidental and e.d. because she'd been in this marriage to a quadriplegic from multiple sclerosis for so many years is exactly the kind of spouse anyone would want to have. both of those stories are so compelling in their own way that they made really the perfect plaintiffs. >> was going up against the judges and the supreme court more, you know, emotionally or i would guess challenging than going up against donald trump or how would you evaluate the experiences? >> it probably was just because i'm much more used to being in are trial court and i knew there were a lot of lawyers in d.c. who thought i should have argued windsor, so that put a lot of stress on me. but when you're in the -- i'm sure it's the same thing for you, when you're in the argument and answering the questions you go into hyper mode and answer
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the questions. >> do you recognize that you have become -- that you, not just your clients, have become really an icon to a lot of especially women in this country? >> i mean, on the one hand, that's very gratifying and obviously a huge honor. on the other hand it makes me very nervous. i'm just bobby kaplan from cleveland, ohio, but i like to practice law. >> you like to practice law and you obviously do it well. have you thought about your next challenges? >> we're thinking about that. my law firm, i think, is very concerned about -- which i'm sure you guys are too about the power of misinformation and disinformation in our society. it's hard to imagine how our democracy flourishes much less survives if we can't agree on what the truth is. so we're looking at cases to bring. it's very hard because there's a law, section 230 that makes it very difficult, but we're definitely looking at those issues. >> section 230 was really on trial yesterday in the senate. >> that's what i understand.
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>> the tech lead eshs. that would require republicans and democrats in two houses coming together and doing something, anything. >> that would be a very good thing, but also maybe not a very high chance of that happening! well, robbie kaplan from ohio, it's great to meet you in person. >> ditto, thank you very much. >> and hope for the hostages, one of them still being held captive more than 60 weeks later. what she's doing to bring the israeli hostages home. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports." this is msnbc ports. this is msnb we need to scale wr demand... in real time. (jen) so we partner with verizon. their solution for us? a private 5g network. (ella) we now get more control of production, efficiencies, and greater agility. (marquis) with a custom private 5g network. our customers get what they want, when they want it. (jen) now we're even smarter and ready for what's next. (vo) achieve enterprise intelligence. it's your vision, it's your verizon.
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. israeli, egyptian, u.s. and qatari officials have set a framework to free the more than 100 hostages including six americans held by hamas. it would impose a 60-day temporary truce in the gaza strip, actually a six-week temporary truce. hamas must first agree to it. for the hostages and their families the waiting game has been long and painful. joining me now, a relative or carmel. there is this framework that came out of paris with everyone agreeing except for hamas. now there are reports just now on al jazeera for the preliminary hamas signoff. we don't know if that's true. it's nothing that we've been able to confirm. this has just happened in the last few minutes.
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there are signs of some flexibility by the israelis, perhaps being, you know, tougher, benjamin netanyahu being more hard line in his public comments than what is being told privately to the administration. certainly there were israeli negotiators, three top officials who signed off on it. what hope do you have that you've been talking to administration officials. you've met with, you know, a lot of other representatives on the hill. is this thing finally moving towards a possible solution? >> as you say, we can't know for sure. we can -- we are feeling slightly more optimistic. we're very happy to see that the talks appear to be moving forward. that's what we've been hearing for the past week. we met with several officials here in d.c. and from qatar and egypt as well. we hear that things appear to be moving forward. we're especially happy to hear
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that things have moved past the, you know, existential kind of disagreements into talks of numbers and space where the negotiation seems to be towards its final stages, and this is very reminiscent of what we experienced in the previous humanitarian deal during which over 100 citizens were released, among them my cousin. so we truly, truly hope that in the coming week or so we will be able to see more of the hostages come home. it's important to say that even if a deal is reached, it will still be a deal that has several stages. so we're talking right now about the first stage including about 35 to 40 hostages, so that's still not going to be all of our hostages and all the people we have to get back home, and so we know that there's still going to be quite a long road ahead, but we are optimistic to see things
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are moving forward. things have been stuck for a very, very long while, so this is -- >> a few seconds left, but what do you want the prime minister to do? do you want him to compromise now and put the hostages ahead of the military campaign? >> our prime minister we hope knows the importance of bringing back all of the hhostages, famously his brother died in the battle of bringing back the group of hostages. he was the one that backed the hostages in a previous deal, so we have to trust that he will put this through, and we hope that statements saying otherwise are just negotiation tactics or things that don't represent what he's truly trying to achieve. >> thank you very much, maya roman, and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports," "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good day,