publicly in several years, making the incredible duet all that more special. i wanted to take tonight's show and just air it for a full straight hour on luke. but i'm just gonna give you a small segment of that performance instead. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i love that you can hear the audience just lose it when they realize it's her. and i love when they show luke looking at her and he's thinking, oh my god, i better step up, and this better be the greatest performance of my life,

because tracy chapman is standing next to me. i absolutely loved it, so i thank them both for bringing us that special, special song to take us off the air tonight. and on that note, i wish you a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late with me. i'll see you again at the end of tomorrow. ♪ ♪ ♪ at the end of tomorrow. ♪ ♪ ♪ really happy to have you here. happy monday. so in september, you might remember that there was a big strike. united auto workers went on strike, they called it a stand up strike, which means they didn't strike every single factory, every single facility all at once, they strategically picked individual plants to strike and pick it. and it was so they could basically keep up the pressure on the companies but also be nimble about it while their negotiations were going on. a strike is about what leverage

you can use against the companies. this was a strategy that was about fine-tuning their leverage. so it's a standup strike. that said, it was not a small thing. it was a huge strike. it was the first time ever that the uaw went on strike against all three major u.s. corps companies all at once. but they did it. and in the end, it paid off hugely. the strike ultimately lasted about a month and a half, it lasted 46 days, and it worked. they got record contracts for their workers. the strike was so effective that the contract they got were so good even car companies without union workers gave their employees raises and better conditions to try to keep up, to try to prevent their employees from voting and go into somewhere where they could be in the uaw. and the public reaction to this was interesting. the public overwhelmingly is in support of the auto workers while they were on this strike. polls showed like 75% of the

public supported the autoworkers in this strike. so this is a historic thing. this is a big deal. but if you think back to september, right when we are at the start of it, before we knew that it would work, before we knew it would be successful, how it would turn out, before we knew how much public opinion would be in support of these guys, when we were less than two weeks into that strike, remember what president biden did? you might remember president biden went to michigan and joint of the auto workers. from the white house, he had been supporting them vocally. we have been trying to help facilitate negotiations. but then, once they indeed went on strike, he physically went to michigan, to one of the plants that was being picketed, and he stood with uaw workers on the picket line. that was september, september 26th, first time a sitting american president had ever done anything like that. now, as i mentioned, what the uaw workers were doing here was

wildly popular with the american people. i mean, look at that headlines from the time. poll says americans overwhelmingly side with autoworkers and ongoing unions right. the majority of americans support the strike. workers across party lines support the uaw strikes and support its rising. the majority of americans back the uaw strike. as republican union support grows. support for this strike grows even among republicans. polls so the proportion of americans who support the car companies over the striking autoworkers is only 9%. so huge majorities of americans side with the folks on the picket line, basically nobody sides against them. and there's president biden, not only vocally supporting them, not only saying as president that they should get what they're asking for, but again, as president, physically joining them on the picket line to make the point, making history by doing so. now, what are the republicans

gonna do in response? i mean, you think about it, he's heading into reelection. you have -- if you are a republican, what do you do the day after that, the day after the president comes across the country to do that, the day after the president does something that bold on an issue that popular to stand with people the whole country is united and rooting for. if you are in public, and what do you do? what, looking for a bunch of leading republicans, the day after joe biden did that, they were unavailable. they had to wash their hair. they were all booked at that republican party's presidential candidates debate, that was previously scheduled for that next day, after biden walked the picket line. and, forgive me, because it was a fox business debate, the only question that either candidates got asked about the strike was, would you fire them? [laughter] that was literally the question that fox business ask them. would you fire thousands of

striking autoworkers today? it was the one question they asked about this huge strike that was going on. 75% of americans, americans left, right, and center, even republicans are rooting for the auto workers in this huge historic strike, front page news all over the country, and fox is saying, hey, republican candidates, let's get to the specifics of this. could you punch him in the face or kick him in the stomach? what would you do, senator, how about you? i mean, right in the room -- that said, one of the republican candidates decided that he would take a different approach than all of the others, perhaps sensing that joe biden was sort of meeting at the moment here in a way that republicans and fox news aren't, you know, recognizing that biden was siding with these autoworkers, and the country was with him and with them on this. one of the republican candidates did try to do something different the day after biden ended up on the picket line in michigan, this one republican candidate decided not to go to that republican presidential candidates debate.

he skipped it. and it's that he himself went to michigan. to go try to do basically what biden did, to go show up and be seen with a union autoworkers in michigan, kind of -- [laughter] he promptly stepped on a rig, trying to make it look like it was supporting these union auto workers who are out on strike, while the whole country was rallying in support of them, he instead went to a non-union auto parts facility. and while his campaign tried to convince people to say that he was there speaking to striking auto workers, or at least he was speaking to auto workers, the problem with, reporters actually went to the event. and they realized quickly that this was a facility that doesn't have anybody in a union, and then the reporters did what reporters do, they talk to the people who are physically there. so this is that a choice and use the next day. quote, one individual in the crowd who held a sign that said,

union members for trump, acknowledged to the detroit news reporter that she wasn't a union member. another person with a sign that read, autoworkers for trump, when asked for an interview, said that he wasn't an auto worker, neither person provided their names. this was very embarrassing, right? trying to look like he was supporting the union, but he's at a non-union facility, that he was with people who were giving signs, and told to pretend to be union workers, or pretend to be auto workers when they were no such thing. he did a fake event, i mean, the whole thing was fake. and then, it was in the detroit press the next day that it was fake. this, you skipped the debate for? it was so embarrassing at the time. and now, as of right now, there are receipts, little receipts. the campaign finance filings that just came out for all the

various campaigns, we partner jonathan at bridge, michigan, dug in and found on that day, in september, the trump campaign indeed paid a 20,000 dollar rental fee to pay to rent that auto parts plant, which was not a union facility, so he could pretend it was full of union auto workers who supported him when it was actually full of rando's, holding signs, that said who they were, even though that's not who they were. it is just an amazing thing. i mean, you think of things that ended previous presidential campaigns, right? how eugene was too close to a microphone when he shouted with excitement after doing well in the iowa caucuses. you're too close to the microphone, your campaign must end. gerald ford got lost in the middle of a sentence about eastern europe in a debate once. poppy bush said read my lips before he said no your taxes, which is uncharacteristically memorable freezing from him. so people actually remembered it, which turned out to be really bad for him when this

did not work out. i, mean campaigns have been laid low by some dominant small stuff. but here is a candidate faking a union event with fake union members and fake auto workers who were given signs by the campaign to falsely identify themselves in the hopes that no one would check. and then, they got caught. it's like -- what else you got? did you ever wear a tanned suit? the uaw, as i said, widely successful in that strike, with the support of the american people. and after that experience with the leading democratic and leading republican candidates for president in 2024, the uaw has since decided to give their endorsement to president joe biden, which is maybe not a surprise after that debacle with trump. and after what joe biden did for them. but still a big deal, it's an important endorsement. today, in another important swing state, today in nevada, in

las vegas, another very big, very influential union did not go on strike. the culinary workers union and the downtown grand hotel and casino on the las vegas strip came down to a wire today in trying to reach a new contract agreement before the agreement was reached. the white house put out word that with president biden traveling to las vegas today, if there was a strike, if a strike was called as of today, if those culinary workers were gonna be out on the picket line today, you can expect that joe biden will join us on the picket line, which of course will be another huge harry deal, right? no other sitting president has ever done something like this before. now, today, in las vegas, at the last minute, the strike was averted, and they did strike a deal. i don't know if the prospect of the president himself walking the picket line with the culinary workers had an effect on those negotiations. it had to be looming out there, you have to think. on economic issues of all kinds,

president biden is in kind of an amazing position right now. on, unemployment, below 4% for 24 consecutive months now. we have added jobs in the economy, every month, for 37 consecutive months. that's as street not seen since the 1960s. wages are up, job market is fantastic. economic growth is super healthy. economic confidence is growing. things are so good in the biden economy right now that our friends at the fox business channel are having a hard time taking it all in. >> we are waiting on the job numbers where we are expecting 180,000 jobs created in the month of january, and the unemployment rate higher, 3.8%. we are watching the revisions, of course, and we are also looking at production. you've got the numbers -- let's get right to cheryl. >> this is something -- 353,000 -- non farm jobs. i had to seriously look at this -- unemployment down to 3.7%.

that's the actual number. we were looking for 3.8%. i don't even know what to say here. >> this is an incredibly resilient economy. the jobs numbers say it's mind- blowing, actually, no one expected jobs numbers, 350,000 jobs, unemployment, 3.7%, wages year over year, 4.4%. i have been calling it for a long time, this is goldilocks, this is as good as it gets. >> this is a goldilocks. this is as good as it gets. 353,000 jobs, i had to seriously double check this, guys, what's the actual number? i don't even know what to say here. that jobs number to date was mind-blowing. this is as good as it gets, this is goldilocks. that's the biden economy as covered by the news network that more than anything wants this not to be the biden economy. but it is while he's running for reelection against a likely republican nominee who wants to

run a so-called populist campaign while he's getting caught purchasing stage sets filled with fake autoworkers to make it look like they like him. how is that gonna work for you come election time? we don't know. we don't know. in nevada, specifically, we really have no idea, and that is in part for logistical reasons, because the next elections are in nevada, sort of, and the reason president biden was in las vegas today is because tomorrow's nevada's presidential primary. the democratic primary and that republican primary are in nevada tomorrow. now, on the democratic side, on biden's side, it's gonna be a fairly normal event. he's an incumbent president. is not really gonna have any serious challenge getting his party's nomination. he has token opposition opponents that got, like, 2% and less than 2% in the first primary this past weekend in south carolina. and so president biden will compete in nevada tomorrow, and he will clean up. on the republican side, though,

the likely republican presidential nominee, donald trump, he will not be on the ballot in the nevada primary tomorrow. his opponent, nikki haley, will be, but trump will not. instead, trump would be on the ballot later this week for a nevada republican party caucus, which is going to take place on thursday. and in that one, in the caucus on thursday, nikki haley will not be on the ballot. now, does this make any sense at all to the average nevada republican voter? no, it does not because it can't make sense to anyone because it doesn't make sense objectively. but the leadership of the nevada republican party, frankly, is -- you have a little empathy. they're distracted. they're under indictment. the state republican party chairman goes on trial less than a month from now along with five other leading nevada republicans were having signed their names to fraudulent electoral vote certificates and putting themselves forward as fake trump electors for the

state of nevada in 2020, even though trump lost the state of nevada to president biden by a lot in 2020. the try to make sure that no republican candidate would have any chance of winning nevada other than trump, that same nevada republican officials, then if ida republican party chairman, who is under indictment, for example, he went to mar-a-lago and met with trump. and lo and behold, the nevada republican party came up with this plan to ignore the official primary run by the state, and instead do this caucus thing two days later basically as a favor to trump because that's what he wanted. and with the state's republican governor and the state party super pro trump, now, what appears to be that republican party's strategy this week in nevada, follow along here, this appears to be the strategy, as they are hoping that people don't vote too much in the official state primary election tomorrow. or if they do vote, they're

hoping that people don't vote for nikki haley, even though she's on the ballot, but instead they vote for the line on the ballot that says none of these candidates. that's the strategy. and then, oh, that's just the strategy for tuesday. there is more for later in the week. they then think my people vote on thursday, but nobody really knows how that will go since lots of republicans would have just voted in this other thing two days before. and besides, isn't it weird to have a state party chairman, and at least one county party chairman administering these supposed elections, while they are under felony criminal indictment for trying to steal the last one, allegedly? so that is nevada. when i say how will this work at the ballot box, we'll, which one? the nevada republican voters, you might know, members of your family -- they are going to have an awkward week. but the nevada republican party is not the worst of them right

now. yes, sure, they're about to hold two separate and incompatible elections for the same office, each with different names on the ballot, each in the same we. but on different days in that nevada state republican party reportedly has one paid full- time staff are right now in their state party chairman is under felony, about to stand trial. barry that nevada republican party right now, but they're better off than some of the others, at least they have a state party chair, an indicted one, yes, but he has a job. in nearby arizona, big swing state, that republican state party chair there just resigned in a weird bribery and elite tape scandal. in florida, big important state, that republican state party chair that was fired against his will. in michigan, big important swing state, that republican party chair was just removed, but she refuses to leave. both she and that guy who might be her replacement showed up at

that republican annual winter meeting this weekend. both claiming to be the chair of the michigan republican party. the rnc has no idea what to do with this problem, two different people claiming to be the chair of the state party, and for the purposes of the meeting this week, and they listed the michigan republican party chairman job as a vacant. and they decided that when both of the people who claimed to be the chairman showed up, they decided that they would give passes to the meeting to both of the people who claimed to be the chair of the michigan state party that they only gave them guest passes, not like, number passes or straight party chair passes. so as guests, neither of them was able to vote on anything or participate in anything officially. and then i mention it's an election year, and that is one of the most important swing states in the country. heading into the republican party meeting this weekend, it seemed like the national chair of the republican party might be thrown out of her job too. and, you know, that makes

sense, just from 30,000 foot perspective, even if you knew nothing about her, right? if you don't want to blame the party's electoral woes since donald trump first came on the scene in 2016, if you don't want to blame the party's electoral votes on him, well, she would be the obvious other person to blame as the chair of the republican party during that time. when trump became president in january 2017, he named her, ronna mcdaniel, to be the chair of the republican party in 2017. and her first election thereafter, in 2018, the republican party lost 40 seats and lost the house. the republicans that year lost a popular vote in those midterm elections by the largest margin since the 19 80s. then in the next election, in 2020, the republicans lost the white house and the senate, as well as the house that they had previously lost. trump and ronna mcdaniel managed to lose both chambers of congress and the presidency in

a single term, which is the first time that has happened since herbert hoover. then next election, 2022, with ronna mcdaniel still in charge of the rnc, and trump still effectively leading his party from the sidelines, that republicans turned on a performance in the 2022 midterms that was the worst performance by a party not holding the white house in decades, arguably, in the century. even in 2023, last year, off year elections, democrats did unexpectedly well in elections in virginia, kentucky, ohio, and every single don place that held any sort of referendum on abortion rights, after trump appointed appointed judges after roe v. wade. and now it's 2024. and trump is very much still in charge and three swing state republican parties, and counting, are in total meltdown, which were not allowed to blame trump for any of that. and so, heading into the republican party's meeting, big annual winter meeting this

weekend, these were the headlines about the republican party chair, ronna mcdaniel. quote, ronna mcdaniel hit with a new wave of resignation calls . ronna mcdaniel faces mounting gop criticism. ronna mcdaniel faces ambush at rmc meeting. maga republicans rage at ronna mcdaniel over rnc failures. you have got to blame someone, let's throw her out. ronna mcdaniel did seem to survive the rnc's weekend meeting, at least it seemed that way when things wrapped up at a big meeting on saturday. but then on sunday morning, trump went back on fox and said about ronna romney mcdaniel, quote, i think she did okay initially in the rnc. i would say right now, they will probably be some changes made. so he is saying that he wants her out. another interview with another right-wing network, he said she should be out of her job.

he said, quote, is it time for ronna mcdaniel to step aside? he said, well, i think she knows that. i think she understands. trump now put out a statement this evening saying he would make his pronouncement on her fate later this month after the republican primary in south carolina. okay, sure. but, listen, maybe you don't need a party or you don't need much of one, each of the two major political parties in the country have done okay in previous election years, even when the parties themselves were organizationally kind of a mess. what is different here, what's important for all of us here in this moment is that the republican party now in the age of trump appears to be not just a mess. they appear to be sort of the solving and cells dissolving themselves -- whatever happens to ronna romney mcdaniel and, you know, however her leadership with the republican national committee is

going to come to an end, i think she will likely go down for in history is the moment in 2021 under her leadership, the party decided there would no longer be a republican party platform. they decided that officially and explicitly, the republican party would no longer stand for any particular thing other than generically saying that they supported trump's overall agenda. we stand for nothing, except whatever the leader wants. that was a signal moment, and it's a moment right now to have all of this chaos in state republican parties, including some of the most important states in the country for the election. i mean, if you are a republican voter in nevada, when do you vote for a choice for republican party presidential candidate in this week? do you vote tomorrow? do you vote thursday? you can vote in both? how is that possible that you can vote in both? well, apparently, that's because once the official event run by the state, which doesn't count, and it's not an official

event, but it's when they're counting, because that is what trump wanted. okay, does that make sense? do you know how you are spending your week? and let's hope this counting is done before the state party chairman is doing court to face his felony charges related to allegedly trying to falsify the results of the last election in that state. i, mean that's how trump once it, so that's his guy, that's what nevada republicans are supposed to do with this week. and no, let's not have any real republican primary debates this year, not to include the front running candidate, because that's also how he wants it, so that's what we will do. let's not have a general election debates this year either because in 2020 trump got that republican party under ronna mcdaniel to say that that republican party will no longer allow its candidates to participate in events sponsored by the commission on presidential debate, which is overseeing general election debates between presidential candidates for decades. he didn't want that, so he had

the rnc pull out of that. so -- to recap, it is a political party with no party platform, no normal nominating process for its nominees, no primary debates, and no general election debates. they are just coming off the worst back-to-back electoral performance by any party since before fdr. and it's all because it is what trump wants. and of course, why would anything else matter, because who could doubt the political instincts of a man with this kind of a track record, right? with this kind of an editorial track record, a man who held up fake -- and then filed the receipts for it publicly. who could doubt a man with political instincts of that level of genius. why have a political party when you can just follow wherever he's leading. political parties are not the most important institutions in

a democracy. but they are part of it, and right now, in our country, one of our two major political parties is dissolving itself. and just tonight, potentially preparing to oust another of its top leaders, all in that service of just doing stuff for their great leader, instead of doing normal party stuff, and normally democracy stuff anymore . and i don't know how many of you are watching this tonight, you know, are mourning the illness of potential demise of that republican party, as an institution, i understand. but if we are going to stay a democracy with a two party system, there does need to be two parties of some kind. or we are not that kind of system anymore, and we're gonna have to develop into something else. i mean, right now, we are very fast becoming a party on one side, and just a guy on the other, a guy who -- this week, he's going before a u.s. supreme court that is going to

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constitution, which says effectively that insurrectionists are ineligible to hold federal office. because this is a really big case, the court is gonna provide live streaming audio of the oral arguments, which means that all of us can tune in and hear this history as it happens on thursday morning, including right here on msnbc, and we're gonna broadcast it live. the arguments are expected, again, to start at ten 8 am eastern. they are expected to last about an hour and 20 minutes, so that's the time you need to walk out -- and the first 40 minutes is reserved for the trump lawyer in this case. his name is jonathan mitchell. if that name sounds at all familiar to you, you may remember that he was the lawyer who came out with the bounty hunter abortion ban in texas that enlisted texas citizens, basically, has vigilantes to go after their fellow citizens getting abortions. he will get the first 40 minutes to argue trump's side of the case. then the court is gonna hear, for about 30 minutes, from a lawyer named jason marie.

he represents the named plaintiff in this case, norman anderson, atlanta one year old lifelong republican from colorado who sued the state to have trump's name taken off the ballot under the 14th amendment. and after those 30 minutes, there will then be ten minutes where the colorado solicitor general, her name is shanna stevenson, she will be representing the interests of colorado secretary of state who oversees colorado elections. and so that's how it's gonna go, 40, 30, ten. if you've never heard of oral arguments before the supreme court, you should be prepared for the fact that the justices tend to interrupt a lot with their own questions. sometimes, they don't even let the lawyers get their word out. so that timing and the order of voices you'll hear could change a bit. but you can generally follow it. we don't know exactly how it will go. but people who do know these things generally expect that the court on thursday is going to focus on a handful of questions, basically three main ones to keep in mind.

they're all understandable, even if you are not aware. the first is, did trump engage in something that can be considered an insurrection, given what he did to try to overturn the election, what he did on january 6th? also, when they wrote in the 14th amendment with the insurrection clause, did they intend that insurrection clause to apply to the presidency? did they mean to apply it to people who want to hold federal office, not just as, you know, a bureaucrat somewhere, but as the president? and third, if the 14th amendment does apply to trump trying to become president again, how is it enforced? does it just kick in automatically? that's the constitution say this in the 14th amendment, effectuate itself? or does congress have to pass some kind of law to lay out the process of how that could work? those are the main questions that the court would be focused on on thursday. again, this is gonna be a live thing, live justices. anything can happen. the whole country is gonna be

listening in thursday morning. luckily for us, people who are experts at these things could help us get ready, help us understand what we should be looking for. joining us now is our friend barbara mcquade. she's a former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan. i should tell you that barr has a brand-new book that's just about to come out. it's called attack from within: how disinformation is sabotaging america. it comes out later this month. you can preorder it right now, attack from within by barbara mcquade. barb, congrats on the book. and thanks so much for being here with us tonight. >> thanks very much, rachel. >> let me ask if it's right for me particularly speaking with the non lawyers among us, to focus on those three questions as likely what the lawyers and the justices will mostly be talking about on thursday. >> i agree with you, rachel. i think those are the big questions. but if you read the brief submitted by trump, you can see that he is seeking to appeal to the textualist on the court

with some of those arguments. for example, the one that says that the president is not included as officers of the united states for the purposes of this exclusion. i think from a common sense perspective, you would say, of course the president should apply here. it was the most important office in the land. of course, the drafters of the 14th amendment would intend to include them. but they look at the text of the oath that the president takes, which is a different from the language in the 14th amendment, preserve, protect, or defend versus support. and the other textualist argument they make, i'll be very curious to see whether any of the justices buy in on this, that the 14th amendment says that this person cannot hold office, and what the trump lawyers are arguing is, it doesn't say i can't run or seek office, it just says i can't hold office. so until i'm elected, until i'm standing there on january 20th, 2025, about to be escorted, this is all premature. it's a really absurd argument but it's designed to appeal to the textualists who looked just to the words in the constitution.

>> what would the practical impact of that mean? you can run for president. you can be elected president. but you can't serve as president. how would that help his case? >> it's insane. i think the idea would be that if there is a provision that says two thirds of the members of congress can't remove the disability. and so that is the argument. but the counter to that, of course, by the challengers in colorado's it would be an absurd result because it would disenfranchise voters who cast their ballot for donald trump, if he turns out to be a candidate who is not eligible. i think this is an absurd argument, but again, trump is trying to appeal to the textualists on the court. >> barb, i explained about the logistics of the day. people can't tune in and hear the live stream, which is amazing, people can do that. i know peacock had those huge numbers, and it was like the biggest internet event ever, everybody had to watch it on

peacock rather than on regular news, rather than on regular tv. i feel this is gonna be the legal equivalent of that. i hope you've got the bandwidth to be able to handle streaming. i don't know if there's ever been a supreme court case with live arguments that have had this much hanging on and this much interest. but when people tune in, they're gonna hear 40 minutes from the trump lawyer, and then the other 40 minutes is divided between two different lawyers that are both sort of on the same side, on the other side of the case. can you explain that, why there's a 30 minute, ten minute split between the lawyer for the state of colorado, and the lawyer for the person who is suing to keep trump off the ballot there? >> so the plaintiff in the case is a voter. and so the voters are the plaintiff in the case. they've got time. but the court also must hear from the solicitor general, who's representing the interest of the secretary of state of colorado, who says i have a duty to determine whether someone is eligible to appear on the ballot. and so, i have an interest here

on behalf of the states and the people of colorado to make my decision. they want to hear from that interest as well because colorado law is an issue here. and colorado, it's the last say on what colorado law means and colorado constitution. so they would be hearing that issue as well. and of course, one of the arguments that the voters make is that it is, the constitution says that it is, the legislature of the state that gets to decide who's eligible for the ballot. so, you know, the idea that the supreme court could tell colorado who gets to be on their ballot is one of the arguments that they are making here, that colorado gets to decide who's valid. instantly enough, there's text from justice gorsuch himself, saying that sort of thing to the court of appeals -- >> oh, wow, and that's like the go-to move before the supreme court justices, to flatter the justices by reminding them of

something else they said, and that appears to be connected to the case at hand, that they should find it hard to run from because it's their own words. and really looking forward to this. barb mcquade, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan. again, the new book is coming out this month, it's called attack from within: how disinformation is sabotaging america. you can get it online right now and preorder it from mcquade, attack from within. barb, thank you so much for your time, great to see you. >> thank you so much, rachel. all right, we've got lots to come tonight. stay with us. got lots to come tonight. stay with us.

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in 2019, in oregon, republicans in the state legislature walked out over a tax they didn't like. they left and they used their absence to deny the legislature a quorum which brought the legislature to a halt for days. a couple of months later, they did it again, it was a climate bill they rejected. several of them fled the state. when the governor of oregon sent state police out to bring them back, one republican senator said that the police had better, quote, send bachelors and come heavily armed, as in don't send anyone with a wife because the wives will be sad, but we kill the police officers you are sending. there never was an armed showdown with state troopers, but that republicans in oregon did succeed to kill that bill by using that tactic. the next year, they did it again. they walked out as a group two

weeks before the end of a session, and that killed the climate bill again. it killed 20 other pending bills that they decided shouldn't be voted on at all. in the following year, there was two more republican lockouts, several days each. under the state constitution in oregon, you need to have a quorum to have the legislature in session. two thirds of the lawmakers have to be present to do any business. so when the republicans have done these repeated walkouts, it has stopped the legislature from functioning for any purpose. and it has happened year after year after year. so, oregon voters decided they did not want this to happen anymore. in 2022, oregon voters voted to stay change the states constitution to try to fix this problem, by a very wide margin, oregon voters enacted amendment to the state constitution that says any legislature who has more than ten unexcused absences is not allowed to run for reelection. so you don't get thrown out, you have to finish your turn, but you can't run again.

voters to prove that, as an amendment to the constitution in 2022. and then what do you think happened in 2023? not only did that republicans in the legislature walk out again. they staged the longest legislative walkout in modern u.s. history. oregon republicans left for six weeks. they staged a boycott over democratic legislation on abortion and other issues, but they just skate out, they got out. and if this tactic sounds familiar, it should. both parties have done this in various states at various times, with democrats doing this to try to save union rights. texas democrats famously did it to try to stop a huge power grab by republicans in texas. other states have done it, other parties have done it. the difference here is that there are now consequences for doing it. oregon voters overwhelmingly voted to change their states constitution to say, okay, from here on forward in our state,

there will be consequences for you if you do this over and over again. you would not be allowed to run for office again. and even after voters change the state constitution to say that, that republicans in the legislature just can't do it. and so now, their actions inevitably have produced consequences, very predictable consequences. but they are still shocking consequences. the oregon supreme court has now ruled unanimously that these republican senators, ten republican senators, are no longer legally allowed to run for reelection. they plainly and deliberately violated the newly amended state constitution, so they can't run again. and obviously, this is a huge deal in that state. i mean, this is almost all of the republicans. this is fully a third of the state senate that has just been ruled ineligible to run again. so it's a big deal there. but also, yes, this is kind of

a microcosmic version of what we are about to see on the federal level at the supreme court thursday of this week, when the country's top court decides whether trump could be blocked from the ballot for violating the u.s. constitution. in a small and microcosmic way, a very consequential way, they are doing it first in oregon right now. so how is that going? hold that thought. t.

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so as a headline, it's almost hard to believe. but it is a real thing. it is true. oregon supreme court barr's republican senators who participated in walkout from reelection. the court unanimous decision means one third of the organ senate cannot run for reelection. these are republicans who refused to show up at the state legislature for six weeks, brought it to a halt. republicans repeatedly did this for years, and so, the states voters approved a constitutional amendment that says, if you repeatedly do this, you cannot run for reelection anymore. now, under that provision, a third of the state's senate, ten of the 12 republicans in the senate are barred from running again. they have to give up their seats. joining us now is julie, deputy editor of the oregon chronicle. thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> let me just ask if i have explained this right, or if

there's anything important that i have missed out or gotten the wrong way around -- >> no, you got it right. 13 republican senators chose to walk out, or ten of them at least, chose to walk out during this session last year for six weeks. they tried to challenge our constitutional amendment approved by voters last year, and they found out last week that they are barred from reelection. >> what's been the reaction to this unanimous state supreme court ruling that says they can't run again? >> i mean, it's generally been applauded by people who supported the amendment in the first place. the republican state senators view this as a political act by the court. they noted that the court has been -- the justices who ruled on this were entirely appointed by governor brown who was a democrat. >> in terms of the fight here, obviously, the states supreme court decision on matters of state law, state constitutional

authority, you would think that would be the end, but i understand there is a federal challenge that at least probably has some traction in terms of the way republicans are gonna try to advance their case. what's the status of their federal court challenge to this? >> yeah, there's a separate federal lawsuit that was filed under first amendment claims, essentially, that these republican senators have a right to protest. and their right to protest was being curtailed. a judge denied a preliminary injunction in that case and december. we are waiting to see, waiting on it, a ruling from the court of appeals, the circuit board of appeals on an appeal to that ahead of the march deadline here. >> well, the country is considering this disqualification issue for president trump at the supreme court, and have organ go through this exercise, it's pretty remarkable confluence. julia shumway, deputy editor of the organ chronicle, thanks for helping us understand this. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> all right, we'll be right back, stay with us. >> all right, we'll be right back, stay with us.

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